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« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2017, 10:39:16 PM »

Not sure why Brook doesn't just look elsewhere....he's hardly got the greatest cv and there's some big names out there for him.
Exactly. Khan may act like a duck but boxing wise he has always took whatever challenge there is
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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2017, 10:57:05 PM »

Exactly. Khan may act like a duck but boxing wise he has always took whatever challenge there is

The entire situation of baffling. Khans not helping himself either tbh...giving thought to his entire career I have no idea why he's not doing all he can to get that Garcia rematch.

If he were to win that he'd be right back where he was given his defeat to Prescott is miles behind him, the Peterson loss was debatable and the Canelo loss was a mis match from the off set.

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« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2017, 05:57:28 AM »

Khans next fight could well be a warm up and for decent enough money. I can't really blame him either after the last fight. Nor would I blame Brook. The only issue for Brook is that he has to fight Spence or move up. If he avoids Spence and goes up to 154 then comes back down to fight Khan later in the year he wouldn't come out of that looking very good. Khan or his team should be smart enough to know this and maybe that's another reason why they're offering Brook such a small slice.
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« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2017, 09:40:35 AM »

Exactly. Khan may act like a duck but boxing wise he has always took whatever challenge there is

This is a bit different though because Brook is a fellow Brit and there is such long standing bad feeling. I don't think Khan is scared of the actual fight, its just a potential loss to Brook would basically finish his career and coming at the hands of a Brit it'd be that much more bitter a pill to swallow.

Brook is prepared to gamble because he's genuinely hungry and really fancies the fight....I don't think Khan has that kind of conviction and so he's priced himself out of it.
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« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2017, 11:18:05 AM »

I am sure Hearn said in his recent interview (the Eubank one) it doesn't matter what split his fighters get its what they personally earn hat matters...

I'm sure 40% of the Khan fight would generate more for Kell than any other fight out there at any weight.

Is khan pricing himself out if this is the  case?

If i got offered say 1 mill (example i am sure they are set to earn a lot more)  and my previous earnings were 500k then i''d be happy with that. It wouldn't matter to me if the other guy was earning 1.5 mill.

I fancy Kell to win the fight with ease so it leads onto to other big pay days.

I guarantee Kell wont be earning anything like that with his next opponent so it doesn't make sense financially.. 
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« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2017, 01:07:27 PM »

This is a bit different though because Brook is a fellow Brit and there is such long standing bad feeling. I don't think Khan is scared of the actual fight, its just a potential loss to Brook would basically finish his career and coming at the hands of a Brit it'd be that much more bitter a pill to swallow.

Brook is prepared to gamble because he's genuinely hungry and really fancies the fight....I don't think Khan has that kind of conviction and so he's priced himself out of it.

That sums it up perfectly to me. 70/30 reflects the gamble Khan feels he taking should the fight go ahead. Khan is effectively ducking the fight really, but If I were Brook I'd just take the 30% (of what would be a big pile of cash), smash him up and send him into retirement with a big last payday. If Brook beats Khan he becomes proper household name in this country and could have some brilliant paydays down the line anyway.
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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2017, 01:58:49 PM »

Hearn should offer Khan a 40/40 purse split with the winner getting the extra 20% and do it publicly....Lets see if Khan really fancies his chances of actually winning the fight?

Or if his demands are just an attempt to duck the fight whilst claiming he wants it to save face.

I think most people are now of the opinion that Khan has started to quack.
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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2017, 02:20:32 PM »

Hearn should offer Khan a 40/40 purse split with the winner getting the extra 20% and do it publicly....Lets see if Khan really fancies his chances of actually winning the fight?

Or if his demands are just an attempt to duck the fight whilst claiming he wants it to save face.

I think most people are now of the opinion that Khan has started to quack.

Looking at the level of opposition that Brook has faced id say they're as bad as each other. Khan needs to fight world class opposition if he wants to consider himself so and same goes for Brook.
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2017, 02:28:20 PM »

Khan don't want it or it would have already happened.

Brook is a box office Sky fighter - Khan hasn't done anything or been relevant in years in UK.
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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2017, 02:53:25 PM »

Hearn should offer Khan a 40/40 purse split with the winner getting the extra 20% and do it publicly....Lets see if Khan really fancies his chances of actually winning the fight?

Or if his demands are just an attempt to duck the fight whilst claiming he wants it to save face.

I think most people are now of the opinion that Khan has started to quack.

Or better still... a 30/30 purse split with the winner getting the extra 40%. That would leave no room to renegotiate against the original khan offer without losing face.
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« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2017, 03:00:43 PM »

The pair of them can bore off and retire...Khan should just do a reality show about being an online solo porn star and having a troubled family life while Brook should just go back to Spain and have more late night drinks with men he's just met
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« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2017, 03:09:06 PM »

Khan don't want it or it would have already happened.

Brook is a box office Sky fighter - Khan hasn't done anything or been relevant in years in UK.
At least khan has been relevant.  Brook has never been unless he was getting busted up by ggg

I don't see how he is a box office fighter when his only ppvs were against a world superstar in ggg or as part of a stacked card against frankie gavin? Khan has had a lot more box office than brook
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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2017, 03:56:43 PM »

At least khan has been relevant.  Brook has never been unless he was getting busted up by ggg

I don't see how he is a box office fighter when his only ppvs were against a world superstar in ggg or as part of a stacked card against frankie gavin? Khan has had a lot more box office than brook

He's not been on sky box office for years (if memory serves me).

About 5 year ago he was meant to fight Paul McCloskey on PPV and sky pulled it. Before then it was Prescott & and the fighting jew Dmitry Salita - so that's 2 appearances is it not, against unknowns.

Khan's sheffield homecoming against Julio Diaz was on boxnation, didn't draw flies and there was 1,000's of unsold tickets. That was nearly 4 year ago or something.

My point is I suppose, is he has never been Sky's darling and his PPV's have been shite.
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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2017, 04:38:43 PM »

He's not been on sky box office for years (if memory serves me).

About 5 year ago he was meant to fight Paul McCloskey on PPV and sky pulled it. Before then it was Prescott & and the fighting jew Dmitry Salita - so that's 2 appearances is it not, against unknowns.

Khan's sheffield homecoming against Julio Diaz was on boxnation, didn't draw flies and there was 1,000's of unsold tickets. That was nearly 4 year ago or something.

My point is I suppose, is he has never been Sky's darling and his PPV's have been shite.

I'm not disagreeing, his PPV's haven't been great (I think they even flogged Kotelnik & Barrera on PPV as well) and I would imagine along with Haye, was why Sky binned PPV's for a bit. My point was I can't see how Brook can be the PPV star when his last one was because of GGG and the one before was one of the worst PPV main events of all time against Frankie Gavin!
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« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2017, 07:56:31 PM »

If the fight ever gets made, then great. If not, it will just be yet another boring saga between two posturing fighters and camps with endless tedious social media exchanges. It's all meaningless and not particularly good for the sport. If all either side can do is blame each other in public for why the fight hasn't been agreed, rather than work behind the scenes to put the event together then they can both jog on.
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