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« on: December 04, 2009, 12:52:37 AM »


Hopkins is really boxings superstar Cool

What a life story Shocked It is so  deserving of being  put onto celluloid when he eventually retires.
These guys could play him in his various ages

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 01:34:23 AM »

The problem is the fights normally make the movie and he doesn't have an appealing style of fighting in the public's view.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 07:50:49 AM »

Hopkins is a great fighter, but he's another guy who's opponents are very carefully picked IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 06:38:37 PM »

Hopkins is a great fighter, but he's another guy who's opponents are very carefully picked IMO.

lol what?

hes fought just about every1 decent from middle-light heavy in the last 20 years
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 07:00:56 PM »

Hopkins is a great fighter, but he's another guy who's opponents are very carefully picked IMO.

One of the daftest things i have read for a while.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 08:26:34 PM »

Hopkins is a great fighter, but he's another guy who's opponents are very carefully picked IMO.

How can you say that and also back up Floyd
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 08:33:23 PM »


hes fought just about every1 decent from middle-light heavy in the last 20 years

------ Nonsense. Here are current Ring Rankings. Out of 30 ranked slots, he fought 5 on the list, so he hasn't even come close to facing "" every1 decent "" :

LH--- 3 of 9, but Roy was a hunnerd years ago as was Johnson who was unranked when they fought. No Tarver rematch, and 5 of the 6 major belts represented here with Popkins not holding a belt.
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1. Chad Dawson
Country: USA (New Haven, Conn.)
Record: 29-0-0 (17 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 183
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2. Bernard Hopkins
Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)
Record: 50-5-1 (32 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 182
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3. Glen Johnson
Country: Jamaica
Record: 49-13-2 (33 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 338
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4. Antonio Tarver
Country: USA (Orlando, Fla.)
Record: 27-6-0 (19 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 585
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5. Roy Jones Jr.
Country: USA (Pensacola, Fla.)
Record: 54-6-0 (40 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 98
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6. Tavoris Cloud
Country: USA (Tallahassee, Fla.)
Record: 20-0-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 14
Titles: IBF
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7. Jean Pascal
Record: 22-1-0 (15 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 24
Titles: WBC
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8. Adrian Diaconu
Country: Romania
Record: 26-1-0 (15 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 134
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9. Yusaf Mack
Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)
Record: 27-2-2 (16 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 43
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10. Vyacheslav Uzelkov
Country: Ukraine (Vinitza)
Record: 22-0-0 (14 KOs)

SuperMiddle----- 0 for 10, not a single one has he fought
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1. Lucian Bute
Country: Romania
Record: 23-0-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 191
Titles: IBF
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2. Andre Ward
Country: USA (Oakland, Calif.)
Record: 21-0-0 (13 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 29
Titles: WBA
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3. Carl Froch
Country: England (Nottingham)
Record: 26-0-0 (20 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 182
Titles: WBC
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4. Mikkel Kessler
Country: Denmark
Record: 42-2-0 (32 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 261
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5. Sakio Bika
Country: Cameroon
Record: 27-3-2 (17 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 139
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6. Arthur Abraham
Country: Germany (Berlin)
Record: 31-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 7
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7. Allan Green
Country: USA (Tulsa, Okla.)
Record: 27-1-0 (19 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 169
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8. Librado Andrade
Country: Mexico
Record: 28-2-0 (21 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 233
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9. Robert Stieglitz
Country: Germany (Magdeburg, Sachsen-Anhalt)
Record: 36-2-0 (22 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 15
Titles: WBO
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10. Karoly Balzsay
Country: Germany (Hamburg)
Record: 21-1-0 (15 KOs)

Middle----- 2 of 11. Good win over Pav, and sloppy disputed win over Wink

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CHAMPION: Kelly Pavlik
Country: USA (Youngstown, Ohio)
Record: 35-1-0 (31 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: C | Last Week: C | Weeks On List: 157
Titles: WBO, WBC
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1. Felix Sturm
Country: Germany
Record: 33-2-1 (14 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 324
Titles: WBA
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2. Sebastian Sylvester
Country: Germany
Record: 32-3-0 (15 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 225
Titles: IBF
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3. Paul Williams
Country: USA (Augusta, Ga.)
Record: 38-1-0 (27 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 34
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4. Khoren Gevor
Country: Germany (Hamburg)
Record: 30-4-0 (16 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 53
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5. David Lopez
Country: Mexico
Record: 37-12-0 (23 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 94
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6. Matthew Macklin
Country: UK (Birmingham, West Midlands)
Record: 25-2-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 10
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7. Anthony Mundine
Country: Australia (Sydney, New South Wales)
Record: 36-3-0 (23 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 27
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8. Daniel Geale
Country: Australia (Mt Annan , New South Wales)
Record: 21-1-0 (13 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 24
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9. Sebastian Zbik
Country: Germany (SchwerinMecklenburg-Vorpommern, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern)
Record: 27-0-0 (10 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 21
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10. Winky Wright
Record: 51-4-1 (25 KOs)
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 08:42:24 PM »

I think Hopkins' legacy is more about his longevity in the sport and his dedication to his conditioning.

The present rankings mean F*ck all to his record because he is 45, he isn't going to move through those weight classes and take on 5 or 6 fighters from each class because it is not physically realistic for him to do that. And the suggestion of the Tarver rematch is farcical because the first fight wasn't a contest. Hopkins made him look ridiculous.

He's fought some high class fighters throughout his career. His should be remembered in a positive light IMO.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2009, 09:22:59 PM »

The trailer is already out for this movie.  Grin

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 10:19:55 PM »

------ Nonsense. Here are current Ring Rankings. Out of 30 ranked slots, he fought 5 on the list, so he hasn't even come close to facing "" every1 decent "" :

LH--- 3 of 9, but Roy was a hunnerd years ago as was Johnson who was unranked when they fought. No Tarver rematch, and 5 of the 6 major belts represented here with Popkins not holding a belt.
#
1. Chad Dawson
Country: USA (New Haven, Conn.)
Record: 29-0-0 (17 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 183
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2. Bernard Hopkins
Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)
Record: 50-5-1 (32 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 182
#
3. Glen Johnson
Country: Jamaica
Record: 49-13-2 (33 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 338
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4. Antonio Tarver
Country: USA (Orlando, Fla.)
Record: 27-6-0 (19 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 585
#
5. Roy Jones Jr.
Country: USA (Pensacola, Fla.)
Record: 54-6-0 (40 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 98
#
6. Tavoris Cloud
Country: USA (Tallahassee, Fla.)
Record: 20-0-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 14
Titles: IBF
#
7. Jean Pascal
Record: 22-1-0 (15 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 24
Titles: WBC
#
8. Adrian Diaconu
Country: Romania
Record: 26-1-0 (15 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 134
#
9. Yusaf Mack
Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)
Record: 27-2-2 (16 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 43
#
10. Vyacheslav Uzelkov
Country: Ukraine (Vinitza)
Record: 22-0-0 (14 KOs)

SuperMiddle----- 0 for 10, not a single one has he fought
#
1. Lucian Bute
Country: Romania
Record: 23-0-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 191
Titles: IBF
#
2. Andre Ward
Country: USA (Oakland, Calif.)
Record: 21-0-0 (13 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 29
Titles: WBA
#
3. Carl Froch
Country: England (Nottingham)
Record: 26-0-0 (20 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 182
Titles: WBC
#
4. Mikkel Kessler
Country: Denmark
Record: 42-2-0 (32 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 261
#
5. Sakio Bika
Country: Cameroon
Record: 27-3-2 (17 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 139
#
6. Arthur Abraham
Country: Germany (Berlin)
Record: 31-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 7
#
7. Allan Green
Country: USA (Tulsa, Okla.)
Record: 27-1-0 (19 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 169
#
8. Librado Andrade
Country: Mexico
Record: 28-2-0 (21 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 233
#
9. Robert Stieglitz
Country: Germany (Magdeburg, Sachsen-Anhalt)
Record: 36-2-0 (22 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 15
Titles: WBO
#
10. Karoly Balzsay
Country: Germany (Hamburg)
Record: 21-1-0 (15 KOs)

Middle----- 2 of 11. Good win over Pav, and sloppy disputed win over Wink

#
CHAMPION: Kelly Pavlik
Country: USA (Youngstown, Ohio)
Record: 35-1-0 (31 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: C | Last Week: C | Weeks On List: 157
Titles: WBO, WBC
#
1. Felix Sturm
Country: Germany
Record: 33-2-1 (14 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 324
Titles: WBA
#
2. Sebastian Sylvester
Country: Germany
Record: 32-3-0 (15 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 225
Titles: IBF
#
3. Paul Williams
Country: USA (Augusta, Ga.)
Record: 38-1-0 (27 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 34
#
4. Khoren Gevor
Country: Germany (Hamburg)
Record: 30-4-0 (16 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 53
#
5. David Lopez
Country: Mexico
Record: 37-12-0 (23 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 94
#
6. Matthew Macklin
Country: UK (Birmingham, West Midlands)
Record: 25-2-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 10
#
7. Anthony Mundine
Country: Australia (Sydney, New South Wales)
Record: 36-3-0 (23 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 27
#
8. Daniel Geale
Country: Australia (Mt Annan , New South Wales)
Record: 21-1-0 (13 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 24
#
9. Sebastian Zbik
Country: Germany (SchwerinMecklenburg-Vorpommern, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern)
Record: 27-0-0 (10 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 21
#
10. Winky Wright
Record: 51-4-1 (25 KOs)

What about this for a Hopkins film script...Hopkins agrees to face the remaining 25 fighters on that list that he has yet to face, leaving him free to retire from boxing when he is 100 years old...

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2009, 10:30:20 PM »

Hopkins is a great fighter, but he's another guy who's opponents are very carefully picked IMO.

At the moment yes, despite repeatedly facing top ten pound-for-pound players such as Wright, Calzaghe and Pavlik over the past few years, his opponents have all been smaller men. Although, it should be considered that Bernard is now clearly over-the-hill.

During his prime at middleweight however, I think that his competition was as good as his division provided. Hopkins consistently defended his titles against good quality contenders and former title holders at the weight, and engaged in unification against top tier fighters in the form of Trinidad and De La Hoya. Hopkins currently holds one of the best resumes in the sport in my eyes.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2009, 10:41:42 PM »

lol what?

hes fought just about every1 decent from middle-light heavy in the last 20 years

ok it may seem crazy, but think about it for a minute... his greatest wins were against...

Trinidad (was naturally smaller and had problems with defensive guys or guys would could box, DLH, Wright, even his recent fight against Jones)
DLH, again a smaller fighter moving up who got hit with a body shot that looked completely fake but that's another story. DLH also being a fighter who on the big stage always failed.
Pavlik, good win against a strong undefeated guy, but again a guy who had to move up, and again someone who struggles against a good defensive fighter.
Tarver, again, great performance, but was doing the Rocky movie and had to gain many extra pounds to fill out to look like a HW, so he had to drop a lot of weight to get back down to LHW which seemed to weaken him... notice how he didn't move as well as he had in the past.
Lost 2 decisions to a guy who has been now KO'd by 3 fighters, Pavlik being one, Froch who is at best a decent fighter (although he was comfortably whinning until he ran out of gas and Abraham, who is a top notch figher.
Calzaghe, controversial decision i'll agree, but again a fighter who HAD to move up, instead of Hopkins moving down to 168 to challenge for the SMW belt, but maybe that was Calzaghes idea.
 Beats Wright with a decision, where most of Hopkins points came more from head butts than punches.. knows Wright doesn't have much pop also, yet again a fighter to had to move up, and keeps him safer knowing the added weight would slow Wright down, although the points margin was ridiculous, Hopkins did win the fight...

Point being that while Bernard is a great fighter, he was a guy who should have been at LHW for a long time, but because of always staying in shape managed to stay at 160 and always be the bigger guy. His career is secure as a great middle weight champion, but because of the above points it will always taint his legacy more than it would have otherwise.

You can argue the same about Floyd if you would like and I and many others admit Floyd didn't take a lot of the fights we as fans thought he should, he is still in fact undefeated, and no one as of yet has found a way to beat him... and he is also a 5 weight champion and from his starting weight up until 140, he fought all the top guys and did it in style.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 10:42:01 PM »

At the moment yes, despite repeatedly facing top ten pound-for-pound players such as Wright, Calzaghe and Pavlik over the past few years, his opponents have all been smaller men. Although, it should be considered that Bernard is now clearly over-the-hill.

During his prime at middleweight however, I think that his competition was as good as his division provided. Hopkins consistently defended his titles against good quality contenders and former title holders at the weight, and engaged in unification against top tier fighters in the form of Trinidad and De La Hoya. Hopkins currently holds one of the best resumes in the sport in my eyes.

Also, Hopkins has been the underdog in a few of his fights

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