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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2010, 08:30:57 AM »

Have I missed something, where in the press release did it say that?

I think you have missed out on many things according to Adrians posting on Facebook. The press release is nothing more than a smoke screen and to say he as been sacked is a fair comment. 
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2010, 09:23:11 AM »

I think you have missed out on many things according to Adrians posting on Facebook. The press release is nothing more than a smoke screen and to say he as been sacked is a fair comment. 

Trust me mate, i havent "missed out" on anything
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2010, 09:32:33 AM »

Upon hearing the news that trainer Lee Beard was in the United States looking into a possible gig with undefeated Joan Guzman, former lineal super lightweight king Ricky Hatton was swift and to the point with his reply: “F*** Guzman!”

The two-word statement was enough to get Guzman’s attention, and enough to offer a two-word response of his own, one that doesn’t require censorship.

Fight Hatton.

It’s a fight that wasn’t previously on the mind of Guzman (29-0-1, 17KO) when he brought in Beard for an audition while seeking new head trainers.

In fact, there wasn’t any fight on Guzman’s mind at the time, merely ways to improve on his most recent performance, one widely believed to be the worst of his lengthy career as he was lucky to escape with a draw in his vacant title fight with Ali Funeka last November.

The Dominican has long been regarded as one of the best technicians in the game, and looked like it for much of the earlier rounds against Funeka. But things quickly unraveled and never got any better for Guzman, who came dangerously close to being stopped late in the fight before finding a way to cross the finish line.

Consistency and in-ring activity have long served as the Achilles heels in a career that has seen title reigns in two separate weight classes but never that one breakthrough fight that has allowed his marketability to catch up to his skill set. He and his team had the sense to embrace this reality and act upon it before mapping out their plans for 2010 and beyond.

Insert Beard, who is rapidly gaining a reputation as one of the best cornermen in the game today. The greatest endorsement for what he brings to the corner for any given fight came from none other than Freddie Roach, who refers to Beard as “one of the best trainers out there and doesn't get the proper recognition for his talents.”

Guzman recognized not only his talents but what he’s been able to do in the past three years for Ricky Hatton, a fighter whom the Dominican has always held in high regard.

The respect still remains, although it’s hard to overlook the fact that the feeling clearly isn’t mutual from the Hatton side.

“I’ve always respected Ricky Hatton,” says Guzman, who first became familiar with his career while temporarily living in the UK earlier in the decade. “But I take great offense to what he said about me.

“There’s a time and place for everything, though.”

To translate – Guzman isn’t looking for a war of words, but simply a war in the ring.

Apparently, Hatton is already having second thoughts about what was previously said, both his take on Beard “abandoning” both his brother (Matthew) and him. A previous report had Hatton expressing grave disappointment over Beard trekking off to the states to join Guzman’s camp, allegedly leaving Matthew in limbo with just two weeks to go before his next fight.

Hatton, who now serves as a full-time promoter in the UK, has since released a statement wishing Beard well and claiming to understand why Beard left when he did.

The truth is, he doesn’t understand.

According to Beard, Matthew Hatton was well aware of the trainer’s plans to head to New York City to see if he would be a good fit for Guzman, and that nothing was set in stone other than going stateside for a tryout.  Matthew didn’t want to stand in his way since his next fight is a tune-up not requiring special preparation.  

There was obviously no conflict with Ricky’s schedule, since he’s currently vacationing in Australia and not scheduled to return to the ring until June, at the earliest.

Nor did it seem to be of much concern to Hatton when it came to training for one of the biggest fights of his career.

“If Hatton thought Lee Beard was being disloyal to him, why did he appoint Mayweather Sr. as his head trainer for one of the biggest fights of his career?” wonders Jose Nuñez, Guzman’s longtime manager and close friend. “Lee wasn't complaining about the fact that Mayweather got paid $1,000,000 to do close to nothing for his career while he’s faithfully been with Ricky for the past three years.”

It was Nuñez who opted to bring in Beard for an audition, to see how well the trainer would blend with his fighter. The early returns were off the charts.

“As a head trainer, all of his fighters remain undefeated. He’s even quicker than Mayweather on the pads. He’s young, ambitious, and determined. He picks up on the mistakes of the fighter immediately and corrects them. Those are some of the many things that caught my eye about him.”

What also caught Nuñez’ eye was the fact that Beard had time on his hands since none of clients had any big fights in the hopper.

Guzman, on the other hand, has a potential fight lined up with former lightweight king Joel Casamayor and would like to have all of his ducks in a row prior to opening training camp. The fight isn’t yet official, with certain stipulations to be agreed upon before any signatures can be applied to the final contract.

If the two sides come to terms, the fight will most likely land on the televised undercard of the April 3 pay-per-view rematch between Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr.

The key part of that statement is “if,” as in, nothing is yet officially in the books. Whatever is decided, Guzman has decided that he wants Lee Beard along for the ride – and if Hatton still has a problem with it, there’s a simple enough solution.

“If Hatton has such a problem with Lee training Guzman things can be settled in the ring,” insists Nuñez. “We have no problem with fighting in Manchester on Sky TV at any catchweight. Guzman and Hatton both have the same promoter (Golden Boy Promotions); if necessary Team Guzman will bypass the Casamayor fight and train to fight Hatton.”

Not only does Guzman embrace the idea of a Hatton fight, but also returning to a place he continues to hold near and dear to his heart. It would also give his team – including Beard – to clear the air on what took place, and not to allow it to be interpreted as disrespecting a nation.

“I don’t want anyone in the UK upset at Lee or me,” requests Guzman. “I’ve learned first-hand that the British boxing fans are true fans that go above and beyond to show support to their fighters. I lived there for two years and won my first championship title there. I will never forget the support the people of the UK gave me. I hope they continue to support Lee, no matter whose corner he’s in.”

Given where Hatton and Guzman stand in their careers and on this present situation, it’s clear that Beard will land in the corner of the one who’d rather fight his rivals then f*** ‘em.


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« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2010, 09:48:41 AM »

Trust me mate, i havent "missed out" on anything

The press release doesn't tell the whole story though and Hatton is left to find another trainer because he decided to part company with Beard. There is no other trainer in the UK can salvage his career because apart from Jimmy Tibbs and Enzo no other trainer as had fighters consistently at this level at a long period of time and neither will get the job.
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« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2010, 09:54:47 AM »

The press release doesn't tell the whole story though and Hatton is left to find another trainer because he decided to part company with Beard. There is no other trainer in the UK can salvage his career because apart from Jimmy Tibbs and Enzo no other trainer as had fighters consistently at this level at a long period of time and neither will get the job.

It will be interesting to see who he chooses, I hope for his sake he makes the right choice as I really dont want to see him end up like he did in the pac fight
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« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2010, 12:10:00 PM »

It will be interesting to see who he chooses, I hope for his sake he makes the right choice as I really dont want to see him end up like he did in the pac fight
Whoever it is has there work cut out ,it's turning into a farce this comeback no proper trainer and Ricky looks like he's weighing 15 stones,should just back track and shelve any plans of a comeback.
Lee Beard give the fan's hope Ricky would comeback in good shape but now there's not even him on board,seriously it don't look good Embarrassed
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« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2010, 12:10:39 PM »

Celtic, wheres ur article from?

Reading ur article tho, who does ricky think he is? F**k Guzman as tho Ricky is the only person who matters? Loads of trainers train a number of fighters a trainer doesnt have to be exclusive to one fighter or one camp.

Fact is hatton is at the end of his career, should retire, has been in self exile for approaching 14-16 months by the time he actualy comes back, has achieved pretty much all he will in his career, when you look it apart from offering money professionally he offers little to a trainer who wants to develop himself.

Whats Beard suppose to do hang around while ricky decides what he wants to do and just train Matthew Hattom who will never be a world champion because he isnt good enough so Beard just trains a fighter for european level. Cant fault him for wanting to train a top fighter, someone who with his skills suits Beard better.

If thats hattons true reaction to me he comes across as a bit of a idiot if im honest, who does he think he is? someone thinks to highly of himself he isnt that good a fighter that a trainer should feel lucky to be in his camp. And i also think hes shot himself in his foot is sacking Beard (even tho im not a massive fan). Whose he going to get to train him? Bob Shannon is the favourite you have to be shitting me in what is arguably rickys biggest/hardest fight he will end up with a average trainer*

*And if he does and loses his comeback i dont wanna hear the trainer excuse again, been done twice, as has the ill excuse as has the weight excuse.
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« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2010, 12:53:28 PM »

Celtic, wheres ur article from?

Reading ur article tho, who does ricky think he is? F**k Guzman as tho Ricky is the only person who matters? Loads of trainers train a number of fighters a trainer doesnt have to be exclusive to one fighter or one camp.

Fact is hatton is at the end of his career, should retire, has been in self exile for approaching 14-16 months by the time he actualy comes back, has achieved pretty much all he will in his career, when you look it apart from offering money professionally he offers little to a trainer who wants to develop himself.

Whats Beard suppose to do hang around while ricky decides what he wants to do and just train Matthew Hattom who will never be a world champion because he isnt good enough so Beard just trains a fighter for european level. Cant fault him for wanting to train a top fighter, someone who with his skills suits Beard better.

If thats hattons true reaction to me he comes across as a bit of a idiot if im honest, who does he think he is? someone thinks to highly of himself he isnt that good a fighter that a trainer should feel lucky to be in his camp. And i also think hes shot himself in his foot is sacking Beard (even tho im not a massive fan). Whose he going to get to train him? Bob Shannon is the favourite you have to be shitting me in what is arguably rickys biggest/hardest fight he will end up with a average trainer*

*And if he does and loses his comeback i dont wanna hear the trainer excuse again, been done twice, as has the ill excuse as has the weight excuse.
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« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2010, 01:11:31 PM »

Boxingscene.com and dont believe everything you read on the net!

Yeah man thats why if its his true reaction, the rest is just what i think if it is. Problem with this type of article is unless if you know Ricky Hatton personally you wont have a clue what he thinks...look how long it took for it to 'officially' come out him and mayweather snr had fallen out during camp.
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« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2010, 02:11:08 PM »

It was me who sent Adrian that message it was a message of i hope everything goes well for Lee in the States,what's the big deal ? can you blame him really wanting to go ,one thing is in my opinion Lee Beard will be sorely missed by Team Hatton by the things Gibbo has said about him he was the one who got Ricky into shape and was pinnacle in Ricky's training.Good luck to both of them .

no big deal just putting what had been said, for what its worth lee has to do whats right for him because no one else will.
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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2010, 02:12:55 PM »


*And if he does and loses his comeback i dont wanna hear the trainer excuse again, been done twice, as has the ill excuse as has the weight excuse.

You forgot the referee and the air conditioning unit!   Grin  But I agree entirely with your post
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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2010, 06:34:24 PM »

It will be interesting to see who he chooses, I hope for his sake he makes the right choice as I really dont want to see him end up like he did in the pac fight


Bob Shannon as never trained a fighter at this level so he should be counted out. But with this being nothing more than a farewell I don't think they will bring in anybody who is a top name and pay them close to what Floyd got because its nothing long term.
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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2010, 06:43:17 PM »


Bob Shannon as never trained a fighter at this level so he should be counted out. But with this being nothing more than a farewell I don't think they will bring in anybody who is a top name and pay them close to what Floyd got because its nothing long term.

do you think its just a farewell?

I don't, if he comes back, wins and wins well he'll fight again.

said it before id like to see gallahger take the role and bring kayes back in
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« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2010, 06:56:55 PM »

I dont know the full facts but maybe it was too good an offer to turn down for Lee ??

I mean fighters can drop trainers like a hat and nothing much is said. Ok so Lee would always be in Rickys corner in some capacity but if Roach for example agreed to take over Hatton then he wouldnt be the lead trainer so maybe lee feels he needs to move away to progress ??
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« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2010, 06:58:38 PM »

do you think its just a farewell?

I don't, if he comes back, wins and wins well he'll fight again.

said it before id like to see gallahger take the role and bring kayes back in

Ive said it so many times already and will say it till im blue in the face. if Ricky is serious about making a comeback, making an impression and doing more than just a one fight farwell/money spinner there is only one man for the job imo and that is Nazim Richardson.

All these domestic trainers, ppl like bob shannon are no good they have no experience at the elite level and no experience of training fighters who will be facing the top guys out there. Look at richardsons work with hopkins, look at how his 1 fight so far with Mosley has gone...he got mosley in shape and worked to his strengths and developed a game plan to succeed against margarito who got schooled. Thats what ricky needs someone who can get the best out of what Hatton has to offer and work a gameplan around his ability not someone to try and change him like mayweather snr did its too late in hattons career for that.
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