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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2010, 01:42:41 PM » |
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Aaron, normally I agree with you, but Khan is now promoted by GBP and they did the dirty on Paulie before in the first Diaz fight and GBP will want to promote Amir to get another big British fan base over.
I think all the odds are against Paulie, regardless if it looks like he's won.
If it was any other fight, though, I'd agree.
But Goldenboy would not be losing that much to be honest in Khan, he is not like a Hatton or ever really likely to be in bringing over huge fans, his is a unknown name over their and as it stands failed his biggest test to date? I can see your point and i agree that it is a big possibility even though its wrong that the sports like that but i would just be curious as to how much goldenboy actually value khan and think he is worth?
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2010, 02:45:04 PM » |
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I'm not sure the americans appreciate Ricky' support could very well be a one off. I think they believe Amir will gain the same following, and David Haye the same.
Therefore they view Khan as a cash cow, hence why maidana was asked to sign the 3 fight 18 month thingy whatever it was
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2010, 03:25:24 PM » |
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But Goldenboy would not be losing that much to be honest in Khan, he is not like a Hatton or ever really likely to be in bringing over huge fans, his is a unknown name over their and as it stands failed his biggest test to date? I can see your point and i agree that it is a big possibility even though its wrong that the sports like that but i would just be curious as to how much goldenboy actually value khan and think he is worth?
I based my opinion on the various videos and interview transcripts I've seen from Dlh hyping Khan up and his words have come across as if he was actually trying to work up the British crowds. We all have different ways of perceiving things but Malignaggi is a known name in boxing and it's a pretty decent way to get Khan's name known. When Paulie had his rant in the post fight interview of the first Diaz fight, he mentioned that it came down to who was easier to market and I think Khan would be much more easier in that respect if the two were compared with one another.
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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2010, 04:21:17 PM » |
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I think being knocked down by a light-punching super featherweight tells us all we need to know about Khan.
Against a soft-punching light welter he could still come undone, given the fragility of the whisker region.
It's the punches you don't see that hurt - and Paulie dropped a tough nut like N'Dou, something that not many others have ever done in their careers.
Khan will be the favourite, on account of Paulie sometimes throwing away the fight, like Hatton.
But Paulie has guts and is tough. He is also pretty strong and wrestled off Cotto a few times in their fight.
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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2010, 04:49:41 PM » |
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Khan's only achilles heel is his questionable chin. As Paulie's punches carry as much weight as a powder puff, I can only see a Khan win here. Amir has many great attributes, speed, power, accuracy etc. I still think he will stop Paulie but then I have very little faith in Malignaggi at all so my opinion is a bit tainted by that
Paulie is a horribly weak puncher... but so is Willie Limond who dropped Khan... Im praying Paulie can pull this one off... Please Paulie Please!
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2010, 05:34:44 PM » |
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The way you speak about Khan and his intentions, you'd think that you had a direct line to him. Now presuming you don't, cut the guy some slack and see where he goes from here. Salita was his mandatory, Malignaggi is his voluntary defence - you shouldn't have to fight two mandatories on the trot anyway.
Give him a chance? fuk me hes on like his 10th lol. He started out ok fighting nobodies he got some criticism for being knocked down thew times but he won those fight so we can let him off. Than the problems came he took on a good puncher big mistake he lasted 54 seconds this isnt a Haye v Thompson scenario where the better man had a poor game plan and wore himself out. Khan than wanted nothing to do with a rematch and fought some more nobodies. Khan than goes on to fight a washed up Barrera a fight he won because the ref let Barrera fight on with a cut until the stage in the fight where it goes to the scorecards(convenient) Khan than goes on tv spurting how Kotelnik is the worst champion ever hed never fight he because hes not in his league etc etc. shock he fights Kotelnik. Salita is now Khans mandatory and boy Khan jumps at the chance to fight him. Now everything being hand picked nicely enough a spanner is thrown in the works as the hard punching Maidana is made his mandatory to which Roach goes on record saying how Khan isnt ready for that fight, they dont just duck Maidana but they also pay him off not to fight Khan for 3 fights. Than shock of all shocks Khans now lined up to meet the biggest name out there with feather fists. Mate il give Khan credit when the guy grows some balls and fights a proven big hitter with a good K.O percentage until than im gonna criticise him no end.
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2010, 08:36:24 PM » |
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Give him a chance? fuk me hes on like his 10th lol. He started out ok fighting nobodies he got some criticism for being knocked down thew times but he won those fight so we can let him off. Than the problems came he took on a good puncher big mistake he lasted 54 seconds this isnt a Haye v Thompson scenario where the better man had a poor game plan and wore himself out. Khan than wanted nothing to do with a rematch and fought some more nobodies. Khan than goes on to fight a washed up Barrera a fight he won because the ref let Barrera fight on with a cut until the stage in the fight where it goes to the scorecards(convenient) Khan than goes on tv spurting how Kotelnik is the worst champion ever hed never fight he because hes not in his league etc etc. shock he fights Kotelnik. Salita is now Khans mandatory and boy Khan jumps at the chance to fight him. Now everything being hand picked nicely enough a spanner is thrown in the works as the hard punching Maidana is made his mandatory to which Roach goes on record saying how Khan isnt ready for that fight, they dont just duck Maidana but they also pay him off not to fight Khan for 3 fights. Than shock of all shocks Khans now lined up to meet the biggest name out there with feather fists. Mate il give Khan credit when the guy grows some balls and fights a proven big hitter with a good K.O percentage until than im gonna criticise him no end.
You would make a brilliant promoter. What you and your fellow Khan bashers always significantly fail to recognise though is that the kid is only 23. He has lost once and any other defeat now is likely to be the end of him. The Malignaggi fight not only makes sense in terms of him being a light puncher, but it also makes more money and publicity than any fight with Maidana would. What is the benifits he would receive from fighting Maidana? He wont add to Khans legacy, Paulie is a bigger name. Also by testing yourself for the full 12 rounds against a supreme BOXER like Paulie. Then when it comes to a fighter who has limited skills like Maidina, it will make it even easier to pick him off. I agree that Khan is vastly overated and sooner or later his chin is going to get caught, even Mayweather has had to take some punches. As you can see from earlier in this thread I predicted a Paulie KO. That shows you how I rate Khan. However to be honest your constant bashing of Khan on every thread bores me to death, as you add nothing but he is ducking a puncher. You would have the guy making no money, no fame and forced into retirement by the age of 24 given the chance.
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2010, 10:20:04 PM » |
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Khan is a boxer who is wanting to develop by testing himself against progresively better boxers. Paulie is a far better boxer than Maidana, therefore he is the better choice of opposition to all other than the blinkered Khan bashers. Paulie is also a bigger name, sells more tickets, is a bigger draw... this all adds up to the better fight for Khan. Yes Maidana can punch harder than Malignaggi but the way some people talk any one can knock Khan out, so he is of equal risk if not more as he will get himself in a position to land more shots on khan.
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2010, 12:19:46 AM » |
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BLAH BLAH BLAH not interested. Il play the waiting game on this one guys. You all think hes fighting Malignalli for the name rather than avoiding Maidana, ok whatever you think its your opinion. Lets just leave this one be and see if you all still back Khan once he beats Malignalli and than still doesnt fight anyone who can bang.
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« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2010, 12:50:56 AM » |
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You would make a brilliant promoter. What you and your fellow Khan bashers always significantly fail to recognise though is that the kid is only 23. He has lost once and any other defeat now is likely to be the end of him. The Malignaggi fight not only makes sense in terms of him being a light puncher, but it also makes more money and publicity than any fight with Maidana would. What is the benifits he would receive from fighting Maidana? He wont add to Khans legacy, Paulie is a bigger name. Also by testing yourself for the full 12 rounds against a supreme BOXER like Paulie. Then when it comes to a fighter who has limited skills like Maidina, it will make it even easier to pick him off.
I agree that Khan is vastly overated and sooner or later his chin is going to get caught, even Mayweather has had to take some punches. As you can see from earlier in this thread I predicted a Paulie KO. That shows you how I rate Khan. However to be honest your constant bashing of Khan on every thread bores me to death, as you add nothing but he is ducking a puncher. You would have the guy making no money, no fame and forced into retirement by the age of 24 given the chance.
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« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2010, 01:56:10 AM » |
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here we go again...another years supply of pampers  I'll agree with that. Just look at Benitez 4 years world champion at 21, before he fought Sugar Ray. I like Khans skills, but well we all know his chin is a joke. Will be interesting the next 2 years to see where Amir ends up.
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« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2010, 04:38:57 AM » |
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I'll agree with that.
Just look at Benitez 4 years world champion at 21, before he fought Sugar Ray. I like Khans skills, but well we all know his chin is a joke.
Will be interesting the next 2 years to see where Amir ends up.
So what would you do with Khan if you were in team Khan? The best for his career? This is a similar situation to what Ricky was in with Witter. He could of had him instead of Paulie, but he didnt offer anything which was worth the risk. The same with Maidina. You cant compare someone like Khan to Benitez. The sport has changed since, more moneys involved, boxers fight a lot less and theres more belts available. I dont think this is a plus point for the sport, but back then you had to fight the best to be the best. Where as now, theres so many belts available you rarely get fighters taking too many risks. Theres not too many boxers around nowadays, who acheived what Khan has at his age and with the number of fights under his belt. You can moan about the fact that he is only 23, but the fact stands. You bashers answer me this............WHY SHOULD HE RUSH? Im not gonna bother with this anymore, another Khan thread down the same pan.
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« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2010, 01:09:23 PM » |
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Its Experience against youth. Hype against fact. Like building on antested foundation.
I pick PM but if Khan does a good job without any excuses or dodgy judges (which is a big chance that judges are paid to further the golden gooses earing potential) then i will say yes MR Khan you ARE the real deal
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« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2010, 02:22:24 PM » |
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You would make a brilliant promoter. What you and your fellow Khan bashers always significantly fail to recognise though is that the kid is only 23. He has lost once and any other defeat now is likely to be the end of him. The Malignaggi fight not only makes sense in terms of him being a light puncher, but it also makes more money and publicity than any fight with Maidana would. What is the benifits he would receive from fighting Maidana? He wont add to Khans legacy, Paulie is a bigger name. Also by testing yourself for the full 12 rounds against a supreme BOXER like Paulie. Then when it comes to a fighter who has limited skills like Maidina, it will make it even easier to pick him off.
I agree that Khan is vastly overated and sooner or later his chin is going to get caught, even Mayweather has had to take some punches. As you can see from earlier in this thread I predicted a Paulie KO. That shows you how I rate Khan. However to be honest your constant bashing of Khan on every thread bores me to death, as you add nothing but he is ducking a puncher. You would have the guy making no money, no fame and forced into retirement by the age of 24 given the chance.
That is the problem with boxing. It's not about the best fighting the best its about the best media attraction fight the best media attraction. Sad really.
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« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2010, 03:36:15 PM » |
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So what would you do with Khan if you were in team Khan? The best for his career?
I'd have him fight bums and nearly-men without a decent shot on them. But that besides the point here i reckon, being a boxing-fan and not Khan's manager. And there is definitely one thing he would gain from Maidana - respect ! Respect is a product that has no price, no tangibles. It cannot be bought, only earned - and whilst Khan gets a couple of small spoons of Kudos, we all know this is an interesting..but extremely cynical ploy to gain maximum exposure with the absolute minimum risk. It's the reason I'm not on board the Khan bandwagon.. and it would seem there are plenty of free seats on it. I would also add Manny Pacquiao had a couple of losses himself and made it into the pinnacle of the sport without a highly-charged money machine like Warren or GBP behind him. He got their on ability - and once he'd arived THATS when they flooded him.
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