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« Reply #135 on: April 18, 2010, 12:57:10 PM »

In the article you posted froch says :

"if we can deal with hopkins he would be someone I would love to fight"

now he is fixated and deluded with the concept that JC ducked him to face .... wait for it ....hopkins - LOL !!!

You can't write comedy material like this ... how do I get in contact with Michael McIntyre.


Thats Froch for you, he ain't got a big nose for nothing.
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« Reply #136 on: April 18, 2010, 02:33:06 PM »

Sorry but you can add all of those names together and wouldn't get close to the numbers Calzaghe has given us over the last few years.

Red, I could undertake investigative research on each of the fighters I used as examples in my previous post (Haye, Mayweather and Hatton) and pinpoint key contradictions (for each fighter) that could match the length of the list that you compiled for Calzaghe...However, it was onyl necessary to skim the surface in order to exemplify my point, and in any case I have no reason to or have any motivation to 'pick on' any one particular fighter...

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« Reply #137 on: April 18, 2010, 02:41:40 PM »

If Froch had fougth and beat Hopkins it would of put yet another blemish on Calzgahes record, so for Froch it may have been the final nail to sealing a fight with Calzaghe.
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« Reply #138 on: April 18, 2010, 03:48:05 PM »

If Froch had fougth and beat Hopkins it would of put yet another blemish on Calzgahes record, so for Froch it may have been the final nail to sealing a fight with Calzaghe.

If you watch the bbc interview he says he would of wanted to fight Bernard in Vegas for financial reasons and to get his name in the headlights over there, this and Bernard being an " American Legend " of course  Wink

No mention of putting a blemish on Joes record or to get a crack at Calzaghe himself im afraid.
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« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2010, 04:37:19 PM »

If you watch the bbc interview he says he would of wanted to fight Bernard in Vegas for financial reasons and to get his name in the headlights over there, this and Bernard being an " American Legend " of course  Wink

No mention of putting a blemish on Joes record or to get a crack at Calzaghe himself im afraid.

Wel Froch also talked about fighting Pavlik aswell the guy who Hopkins beat. The idea of someone questioning Frochs opponents is laughable hes out to fight the best and Pavlik pre Hopkins was classed as one of the best. Froch onyl talked about fighting Hopkins once it became a possibility as Pavlik had lost to the guy. I dunno where youre going with this to be honest as Froch never fought Hopkins and has gone on to fights with the very people he and every boxing fan wanted him to fight.

p.s yeah there was no mention of froch putting a blemish on calzaghes record or getting a crack at Cazlageh himself in 1 interview. Heres the fact though. Froch worked his way to a position where Calzaghe had to fight him or run and Calzaghe ran.
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« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2010, 04:41:10 PM »

Another little add to the argument around 3.45 Carl talks about not wanting to fight a voluntary, im not interested in fighting mandatorys, says he is getting on a bit now etc

Sound familiar ?? Not like Joe saying it then ??

Live Carl Froch Interview

Also here is a video interview on the bbc website talking about Hopkins - Straight from the horses mouth  Grin

BBC Sport - Boxing - Froch tempted by Hopkins showdown


Muppet !

Do you know what a voluntary is ?? It's where he takes a fight, for the belt, against someone ranked by the organisation that hasn't been enforced as a mandatory challenger.

In other words, he can fight a meaningless soft touch, at home, for a few quid - sound familiar that ?? but Carl went on to blow your ill-judged case out the water declaring he wanted a unification with Bute or Kessler next.

Appalling effort Jamie.

Also your second video is again, of Carl saying he wants to fight Bute for a unification, then he talks about how he'd happily fight Hopkins who arguably beat Calzaghe, put him on his arse and was looking great in his previous fight against Pavlik.

Hardly anything there to criticise him about.

Also for your 'amusement' is Froch talking about Calzaghe vs Hopkins before it occured and he gets it spot on.

CARL FROCH believes Joe Calzaghe should forget about knocking out Bernard Hopkins.

Calzaghe, 36, is confident the extra power he has gained from stepping up to light-heavy will help him floor Hopkins.

But Froch, who is in line to pick up the WBC title if the Welshman vacates his super-middleweight throne, does not believe it will be that simple.

The British champ said: "Calzaghe can definitely beat Hopkins - he can beat most people. But I don't think it will be as easy as he's been saying.

"He seems to think Hopkins doesn't stand a chance because he's 43 and is an old man.

"Calzaghe's been giving him a lot of stick but I think it will be a lot tougher than he thinks.

"If Calzaghe thinks he'll just go in there and throw his normal 100 hand slaps per round, put it on him and force a stoppage, he's going to be in for a shock.

"I don't think he's got the power to knock Hopkins out. Hopkins is a really big light-heavyweight and is very strong physically.

"I can't see Calzaghe hitting him with one shot and knocking him out - he's not a one-punch knockout man.

"He's an accumulative puncher who forces stoppages. Forget the one-shot knockout, it's not going to happen - mark my words on that.

"The smart money is on Calzaghe to win on points and that's how I think it will go."

Despite backing the Welshman to extend his unbeaten run to 45 fights, Froch believes Hopkins will give Calzaghe the fight of his life.

The Cobra added: "Calzaghe's got a very, very good chance of outpointing him but he can't forget that with Hopkins' age comes a lot of wisdom.

"I trained with Howard Eastman for six weeks before he boxed Hopkins three years ago.

"Eastman wasn't at his best then but I couldn't believe what Hopkins did to him.

"He moved him around the ring and put him where he wanted him. He held him, hit him, tied him up and totally snuffed him out of the fight.

"Hopkins knows his way around the ring and he's been in there with some top operators.

"Calzaghe's never fought in America before and he's up against a light-heavyweight, so who knows how it will go?

"You can struggle to make super-middleweight but it doesn't necessarily mean you need to step up to light-heavy.

"What it can mean is you're getting old and you need to train harder and diet a bit more.

"Going up to light-heavyweight does not always mean you'll be taking more power and muscle mass with you. He could just end up taking seven pounds of water with him.

"But I still say Calzaghe is good enough to beat him on points.

"He's experienced, he's very busy, he's got a good shot and he's a hard b*****d."

Froch would love nothing better than to be Calzaghe's final opponent.

But the Nottingham ace doubts the super-middleweight king will decide to bring down the curtain on a glorious career with a Battle of Britain.

Froch said: "If he wanted it enough, the fight could happen.

"But at the end of the day, boxing is all about timing and Joe has got six or seven years on me. The timing is just not right.

"It is disappointing, not just for me but for the fans - the British public want the fight.

"If my promoter can get Calzaghe in the ring, then great. The fight would be massive and I'd love it to happen but I'm not going to lose sleep if it doesn't.

"I'll get on with my career, become a massive superstar and make a load of money - that's what I'm looking forward to doing."

Read more: http://casino.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/boxing/1059839/CARL-FROCH-believes-Joe-Calzaghe-will-struggle-to-KO-Bernard-Hopkins.html#ixzz0lTFJ0d4L




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« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2010, 05:22:11 PM »

I put up one video to show how hypocritical Carl is saying one minuete Hopkins is past it, the next saying how he would love to fight him in response to your huge list of Calzaghe contridictions you hammered him on which shows he is not the only one to say such things.

Like i said to you whats the difference Carl Froch saying over and over that Hopkins and Jones were old and well past it when Joe fought them but when linked to fight Bernard in another interview states Bernard Hopkins is an " American legend "

You cant tell me that Joe hasnt said time and again Joe ducked him to fight two old men, like Scarface said Carl hammers Joe for not fighting him saying he is scared etc but he fights Hopkins instead of him who is an " American legend " and a " Hard B*stard " in other interviews.

The next video was more to the discusion i had with Hitman in regards to the Mandatory debate a few pages back, just to point out that it wasnt just Joe who didnt fancy fighting mandatorys all the time.

The videos are there they dont lie.


As for the muppet comment not really any need for that, if the ball was on the other foot you wouldnt take too kindly to it.

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« Reply #142 on: April 18, 2010, 05:24:34 PM »

Wel Froch also talked about fighting Pavlik aswell the guy who Hopkins beat. The idea of someone questioning Frochs opponents is laughable hes out to fight the best and Pavlik pre Hopkins was classed as one of the best. Froch onyl talked about fighting Hopkins once it became a possibility as Pavlik had lost to the guy. I dunno where youre going with this to be honest as Froch never fought Hopkins and has gone on to fights with the very people he and every boxing fan wanted him to fight.

p.s yeah there was no mention of froch putting a blemish on calzaghes record or getting a crack at Cazlageh himself in 1 interview. Heres the fact though. Froch worked his way to a position where Calzaghe had to fight him or run and Calzaghe ran.

Thats your opinion and an opinion it is, but you could look at it if he did run he ran to fight a guy who is an " American legend " a guy who Carl said he would love to fight.
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« Reply #143 on: April 18, 2010, 05:32:40 PM »

Thats your opinion and an opinion it is, but you could look at it if he did run he ran to fight a guy who is an " American legend " a guy who Carl said he would love to fight.

To be fair I never criticised Calzaghe for fighting Hopkins and gave him credit for what I fought was a close but fair SD for Cazlaghe. However the Jones fight was a sham along with many others and imho Joe could have fought Froch but opted for guys like mario Veit and Peter Manfredo insted.
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« Reply #144 on: April 18, 2010, 05:38:33 PM »

To be fair I never criticised Calzaghe for fighting Hopkins and gave him credit for what I fought was a close but fair SD for Cazlaghe. However the Jones fight was a sham along with many others and imho Joe could have fought Froch but opted for guys like mario Veit and Peter Manfredo insted.

Like Deck mentioned in a post and Carl himself even says below it was bad timing, the best time he could of fought Joe according to many was when he was mandatory, he choose to fight Hopkins instead.

But the Nottingham ace doubts the super-middleweight king will decide to bring down the curtain on a glorious career with a Battle of Britain.

Froch said: "If he wanted it enough, the fight could happen.

"But at the end of the day, boxing is all about timing and Joe has got six or seven years on me. The timing is just not right.

"It is disappointing, not just for me but for the fans - the British public want the fight.

"If my promoter can get Calzaghe in the ring, then great. The fight would be massive and I'd love it to happen but I'm not going to lose sleep if it doesn't.

"I'll get on with my career, become a massive superstar and make a load of money - that's what I'm looking forward to doing."
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« Reply #145 on: April 18, 2010, 06:24:02 PM »

Like Deck mentioned in a post and Carl himself even says below it was bad timing, the best time he could of fought Joe according to many was when he was mandatory, he choose to fight Hopkins instead.

But the Nottingham ace doubts the super-middleweight king will decide to bring down the curtain on a glorious career with a Battle of Britain.

Froch said: "If he wanted it enough, the fight could happen.

"But at the end of the day, boxing is all about timing and Joe has got six or seven years on me. The timing is just not right.

"It is disappointing, not just for me but for the fans - the British public want the fight.

"If my promoter can get Calzaghe in the ring, then great. The fight would be massive and I'd love it to happen but I'm not going to lose sleep if it doesn't.

"I'll get on with my career, become a massive superstar and make a load of money - that's what I'm looking forward to doing."

I agree I think that post sums it up perfectly
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« Reply #146 on: April 18, 2010, 07:17:47 PM »



As for the muppet comment not really any need for that, if the ball was on the other foot you wouldnt take too kindly to it.



Sorry i apologise for that mate.

Feel free to call me anything back.

Apart from Joe Calzaghe fan
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« Reply #147 on: April 18, 2010, 07:46:46 PM »

Sorry i apologise for that mate.

Feel free to call me anything back.

Apart from Joe Calzaghe fan

Lol no worries, i wouldnt dream of calling you that  Smiley
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« Reply #148 on: April 18, 2010, 08:46:52 PM »

Wel Froch also talked about fighting Pavlik aswell the guy who Hopkins beat. The idea of someone questioning Frochs opponents is laughable hes out to fight the best and Pavlik pre Hopkins was classed as one of the best. Froch onyl talked about fighting Hopkins once it became a possibility as Pavlik had lost to the guy. I dunno where youre going with this to be honest as Froch never fought Hopkins and has gone on to fights with the very people he and every boxing fan wanted him to fight.

p.s yeah there was no mention of froch putting a blemish on calzaghes record or getting a crack at Cazlageh himself in 1 interview. Heres the fact though. Froch worked his way to a position where Calzaghe had to fight him or run and Calzaghe ran.

He ran and ran and ran until he found a boxing ring in the state of Nevada that had a fella called Bernard Hopkins in there. How cowardly can a man get ... tut tut !!
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« Reply #149 on: April 18, 2010, 08:52:44 PM »

Like Deck mentioned in a post and Carl himself even says below it was bad timing, the best time he could of fought Joe according to many was when he was mandatory, he choose to fight Hopkins instead.

But the Nottingham ace doubts the super-middleweight king will decide to bring down the curtain on a glorious career with a Battle of Britain.

Froch said: "If he wanted it enough, the fight could happen.

"But at the end of the day, boxing is all about timing and Joe has got six or seven years on me. The timing is just not right.

"It is disappointing, not just for me but for the fans - the British public want the fight.

"If my promoter can get Calzaghe in the ring, then great. The fight would be massive and I'd love it to happen but I'm not going to lose sleep if it doesn't.

"I'll get on with my career, become a massive superstar and make a load of money - that's what I'm looking forward to doing."

That, i'm afraid, is one of the most difficult statements to ever believe IMO.

I would bet my house .... honestly... I would.
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