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 on: Yesterday at 10:53:28 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by Red
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 on: Yesterday at 08:44:35 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by jaff_no1
The Josh Kelly fight is off now which probably makes this the worst Matchroom cars of the year.
It's a shocker. Kid ghalahad bored the tits off everyone again

I think Kelly has struggled to make weight by all accounts. He tried to get the fight reduced from 12 rounds to 10 yesterday then pulled out today. Avansen manager has slated him and booth on twitter for being unprofessional so something has gone on

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 on: Yesterday at 04:57:06 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by The Hurricane
The Josh Kelly fight is off now which probably makes this the worst Matchroom cars of the year.

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 on: December 07, 2018, 03:38:43 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by glenn_user
no doubt he has made money, but from a boxing point of view he was a young upcoming star for years and years, then as you say went straight to shot to bits after ggg smashed him up in the first few minutes. no decent promoter would have been sacrificing anyone like that.

he leaves no where near the sort of legacy he should have. i find it all a bit disappointing as he really was a good exciting fighter. he doesnt look or sound the same anymore, seems the motivation is lacking kind of halfheartedly hoping the khan fight comes off. which to be honest is an irrelevance now anyway. you cant be the same with injuries like that, and regardless of what caused them is it worth the risk carrying on?

i wonder whether hes being used to fill out more dates in a tv schedule with the carrot of a khan payday as a lure. he must have earned enough to pack it in, its not a game to play at esp not with bad eye injuries.

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 on: December 07, 2018, 09:14:14 AM 
Started by Red - Last post by Red
brook's career has been destroyed by matchroom. it never really got started, then he was 'offered the chance' to fight a murderous puncher who was 2 weights up, and that was the end of it. disgusting is what it is actually, hes been badly hurt as a result and is clearly looking to cash out now and i wouldnt blame him, he should really retire.

brook hasnt helped himself but no one seems to have been managing him in terms of his own interests,but rather satisfying ppv dates etc, offering him desperate chances rather than building him up.

this was one of the uks most promising fighters at the weight and hes done ok, thats it.

I think 'destroyed' is maybe a tad harsh, and Im sure he is very wealthy now in comparison to his previous promoter.

To surmise i simply think Brook was not fed to the wolves, but he was fed to SKY so they could honour their PPV slot.

On one hand, Brook was given a PPV gimme against Frankie Gavin, then he was sacrificed against GGG.

Errol Spence Jr was a fight that he was definitely in, until the other eye went. You have to wonder if his eye was originally weakened by GGG too, like the first eye socket ? perhaps it's just a weakness due to shape of his skull or similar.

But yes, the GGG fight was a bad move, regardless what he was paid. Brook went from a fresh, unbeaten fighter to a shot fighter almost overnight.


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 on: December 06, 2018, 09:47:33 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by glenn_user
brook's career has been destroyed by matchroom. it never really got started, then he was 'offered the chance' to fight a murderous puncher who was 2 weights up, and that was the end of it. disgusting is what it is actually, hes been badly hurt as a result and is clearly looking to cash out now and i wouldnt blame him, he should really retire.

brook hasnt helped himself but no one seems to have been managing him in terms of his own interests,but rather satisfying ppv dates etc, offering him desperate chances rather than building him up.

this was one of the uks most promising fighters at the weight and hes done ok, thats it.

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 on: December 06, 2018, 04:03:46 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by Red
Wasn't Spence Jnr his mandatory so didn't have much choice? The GGG was a think a knee jerk reaction to Khan v Canelo. I think the GGG fight took a lot out of him and if he had the chance again wouldn't have taken it

At the end of the day Khan v Brook is 3 years overdue and wouldn't be near the event it should have been

Summat like that.

But there was talk of him going to 154 and vacated the welter title.

Personally, I thought it was a ridiculous move to fight GGG. He had no business going up 2 weight classes to fight a middleweight.

At least with Khan v Canelo, he used to be a welter fighter (Floyd, Matt Hatton etc)

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 on: December 06, 2018, 04:02:19 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by The Hurricane
Wasn't Spence Jnr his mandatory so didn't have much choice? The GGG was a think a knee jerk reaction to Khan v Canelo. I think the GGG fight took a lot out of him and if he had the chance again wouldn't have taken it

At the end of the day Khan v Brook is 3 years overdue and wouldn't be near the event it should have been

Yeah, Spence was his mandatory but I don't think he'd have received much in the way of criticism for dropping the belt and heading to 154 after losing to GGG and Middleweight.  Hauling himself back down to 147 immediately after the GGG fight was another decision I doubt he'd make again in hindsight along with hanging out with random blokes with knives in Tenerife.

If Khan fights Crawford he gets stopped again and a fight with Brook is less than worthless.

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 on: December 06, 2018, 03:47:50 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by jaff_no1
To be fair to Brook, I think it is clear that going from GGG to Spence Jr that he is willing to fight anyone.  He just has a strange CV in that it only has Porter on as someone at a level he should have been fighting at routinely for a couple of years.  He essentially wasted the two years post winning the title and ended up with consecutive bad injuries and is now back treading water waiting for something to happen.
Wasn't Spence Jnr his mandatory so didn't have much choice? The GGG was a think a knee jerk reaction to Khan v Canelo. I think the GGG fight took a lot out of him and if he had the chance again wouldn't have taken it

At the end of the day Khan v Brook is 3 years overdue and wouldn't be near the event it should have been

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 on: December 06, 2018, 03:39:24 PM 
Started by Red - Last post by The Hurricane
Totally agree - its a nothing fight now. I don't think he gets flattened by Crawford as not sure he has the knock out power of Brook who would be huge at the weight (I think he gets beat convincingly mind)

Brook needs to move on and fight someone relevant as well. His resume is shocking for someone with so many fights. And 2 out of his 3 decent level opponents he has got beaten by. At least Khan would fight anyone

To be fair to Brook, I think it is clear that going from GGG to Spence Jr that he is willing to fight anyone.  He just has a strange CV in that it only has Porter on as someone at a level he should have been fighting at routinely for a couple of years.  He essentially wasted the two years post winning the title and ended up with consecutive bad injuries and is now back treading water waiting for something to happen.

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