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Title: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 28, 2012, 10:46:24 AM
https://www.skybet.com/boxing/olympics (https://www.skybet.com/boxing/olympics)

If you scroll down it shows the day by day bouts.

starting from today 13:35


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Rtr on July 28, 2012, 11:03:34 AM
Nice one looking forward to this

My mate's got a £500 bet on selby and fred evans  :o

£200 win £200 win £100 double


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on July 28, 2012, 11:11:57 AM
cheers mate your a star


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on July 28, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Stick some money on Josh Taylor


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 28, 2012, 12:01:53 PM
I don't know much about Diaz jr the yank, but have only read and heard good things.

Diaz
Fierro
ogogo
Hakobyan
Kilicci

2 pound accum, return is 11.

That will start me off, I will bet heavy on the gb lads to get through the first round. Not a dead cert but close too it.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 28, 2012, 12:06:01 PM
I know this sounds like moron stuff, but remember the Boxing is on the red button and you select boxing on the Olympic events there. 1:35pm its kicking off, can't wait  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on July 28, 2012, 12:10:47 PM
im getting really excited for this !



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 28, 2012, 01:38:19 PM
John Joe Nevin boxed well.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: RichCon on July 28, 2012, 01:52:17 PM
Anyone who has got Boxnation you can view all bouts on the BBC Sport website or get the BBC Olympic app for smart phones which aswell alows you to view all bouts.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on July 28, 2012, 02:27:13 PM
John Joe Nevin boxed well.

He looks fit and focused and boxed very well and had a bit of pop. Best nick I've seen him in. I'll be surprised if he doesnt end up in a final.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
John Joe boxed very well. The fighter from Kazakhstan he is fighting in the next round is very good and a southpaw do it'll be interesting. Nevin's timing and shots we're sharp so it's looking good.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
What's with the scoring at end of rounds only?

It seems to me like they are trying to avoid controversy of being accused of not scoring blatent scoring shots by just giving totals at the end of a round. I think it's a step backwards for clarity in the sport.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 28, 2012, 02:47:20 PM
What's with the scoring at end of rounds only?

It seems to me like they are trying to avoid controversy of being accused of not scoring blatent scoring shots by just giving totals at the end of a round. I think it's a step backwards for clarity in the sport.

6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Up to now, I think the scores have been about bob on Deck.

O'Neill is another good paddy. Good amateur.

You've got some good lads mate


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 28, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
He looks fit and focused and boxed very well and had a bit of pop. Best nick I've seen him in. I'll be surprised if he doesnt end up in a final.

Not sure on the others in his division, I will take your word for it !


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 02:53:35 PM
6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Up to now, I think the scores have been about bob on Deck.

O'Neill is another good paddy. Good amateur.

You've got some good lads mate

Yeah we have a good squad. A couple of other good fighters didn't make it. Paddy Barnes and Michael Conlon are very good also.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 03:08:01 PM
Great win by Darren O' Neill. The Nigerian was looking cagey in the first round but he unravelled in the 2nd and he Git tagged with some decent shots.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 28, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
He boxed really well, and Stefan Hatel looked really good, nice and tight technique a good example timing beats speed.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 03:15:39 PM
Timing means a huge amount in amature contests for clean scoring.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/olympics/boxing/2012/0728/330949-day-1-boxing/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/olympics/boxing/2012/0728/330949-day-1-boxing/)

London 2012 Olympics Day 1 Boxing: John Joe Nevin and Darren O'Neill both recorded comfortable round of 32 boxing wins

Bantamweight John Joe Nevin and middleweight Darren O'Neill have both advanced to the last 16 in their Olympic boxing divisions.

Nevin advanced to the last 16 after comprehensively outpointing Denmark's Denis Ceylan in this afternoon's first-round bout.

Nevin landed early blows to take the fight to Ceylan from the outset and he finished the opening round with a 5-2 lead.

Controling the pace all the way through the second round, he picked off his opponent at will, racking up eight more points to just two for the Dane.

It was much of the same in round three as Nevin outfoxed and outclassed Ceylan, scoring another 8-2 victory for the round and a huge 21-6 total.

Nevin will face Kanat Abutalipov of Kazakhstan in the round of 16.

O'Neill made light work of Nigeria's Mudeen Akanji to advance.

In a tight first round, O'Neill edged it 4-3, with his superior tactics and punching power lending him the lead.

The second round was all O'Neill as he raced into a 12-5 lead. Strong lefts and combination punches gave him the scores with the tall Nigerian simply having no answer.

With the fight done, the last round become a matter of winding down the clock, which O'Neill did expertly, while also managing to outpoint his opponent 3-1. A final score of 15-6 in O'Neill's favour was merited.

Both fighters march on.

Adam Nolan is the next Irish boxer in the ring. He fights in Sunday night's evening session, which begins at 8.30pm.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 09:00:18 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18910019 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18910019)

Olympic boxing: Anthony Ogogo overcomes Junior Castillo Martinez  
By Ben Dirs
 BBC Sport at the ExCel Arena

Anthony Ogogo got the Great Britain boxing team off to a winning start at London 2012, comfortably beating Junior Castillo Martinez at the ExCel Arena.

The 23-year-old middleweight, from Lowestoft in Suffolk, recovered from a slow first round against his awkward Dominican opponent to advance comfortably, by 13 points to six.

Ogogo faces top seed and reigning world champion Ievgen Khytrov in the last 16.

 Richie Woodhall
 Olympic bronze medallist and boxing commentator
"Fantastic performance from Anthony. He boxed well and got through it. The right-hand left-hook was the best combination throughout and he deserves his victory. He's got the opening contest out of the way and that will please him. I'm so pleased for him because he has been through so much personally outside of the ring."
Irish pair John Joe Nevin and Darren O'Neill also advanced on day one.

With Hull bantamweight Luke Campbell receiving a bye into the second round, Ogogo was charged with igniting his country's boxing campaign.

And having overcome so many obstacles in order to get to London, Ogogo's overriding emotion after seeing off Martinez was relief.

"It was really nerve-wracking coming out first," said Ogogo, whose Olympic dream was nearly wrecked by a shoulder injury and whose mother, Teresa, suffered a brain haemorrhage six weeks ago.

"I've worked so hard to get here and you can only imagine what it's going to be like, so I was a bit tense in the opening round before settling down a bit in the second.

Continue reading the main story
“I can't wait to ring my mum up and tell her. My sister also went into labour today, so it's been a great day for the family!”

Anthony Ogogo
 "I can't wait to ring my mum up and tell her. My sister also went into labour today, so it's been a great day for the family.

"The draw's not been very kind to me. I've got the world champion next, the Ukrainian, but in front of this crowd I feel like I can beat anybody.

"I've never boxed [Khytrov] before and it's going to take a momentous effort but I feel I've got it in the locker to beat him."

Fifth-seeded bantamweight Nevin, from Mullingar in County Westmeath, comprehensively outboxed Denmark's Dennis Ceylan to win 21-6.

Nevin, twice a World Championship bronze medallist, is part of a six-strong Irish team looking to improve on a tally of three medals in Beijing.

The 23-year-old faces Kanat Abutalipov in the next round after the Kazakhstani beat Wessam Salamana, one of only 10 Syrian athletes competing in London, 15-7.

Nevin's 56kg rival Campbell will have to wait until the evening session to discover whether his opener will be against Jonas Matheus of Namibia or Jahyn Vittorio Parrinello of Italy.

Irish middleweight O'Neill, a European silver medallist in 2010, beat Nigeria's Muideen Akanji 15-6 and faces Stefan Hartel of Germany next.

Joseph Diaz of the United States had the honour of winning the first bout of the tournament, the 20-year-old southpaw outpointing Ukraine's Pavlo Ishchenko 19-9.

Diaz's reward is a bout against Lazaro Alvarez Estrada, the top seed and reigning world champion from Cuba, who received a first-round bye.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 09:13:50 PM
Day 1:

Boxing Men's Bantam (56kg)   
13:34 - Round of 32   basic_expand 
13:34 Round of 32  DIAZ JR Joseph  WDIAZ JR Joseph score: 19 - ISHCHENKO Pavlo score: 9   ISHCHENKO Pavlo 
13:51 Round of 32  VODOPIYANOV Sergey  WVODOPIYANOV Sergey score: 12 - MELIAN Alberto Ezequiel score: 5   MELIAN Alberto Ezequiel 
14:08 Round of 32  VIEIRA de JESUS Robenilson  WVIEIRA de JESUS Robenilson score: 13 - SHAYIMOV Orzubek score: 7   SHAYIMOV Orzubek 
14:25 Round of 32  NEVIN John Joe  WNEVIN John Joe score: 21 - CEYLAN Dennis score: 6   CEYLAN Dennis 
14:43 Round of 32  ABUTALIPOV Kanat  WABUTALIPOV Kanat score: 15 - SLAMANA Wessam score: 7   SLAMANA Wessam 
15:01 Round of 32  THAPA Shiva  THAPA Shiva score: 9 - WVALDEZ FIERRO Oscar score: 14   VALDEZ FIERRO Oscar 
20:32 - Round of 32   basic_expand 
20:32 Round of 32  MATHEUS Jonas  MATHEUS Jonas score: 7 - WPARRINELLO Jahyn Vittorio score: 18   PARRINELLO Jahyn Vittorio 
20:48 Round of 32  BALLA Ibrahim  WBALLA Ibrahim score: 16 - LBIDA Aboubakr Seddik score: 16   LBIDA Aboubakr Seddik 
21:07 Round of 32  SONJICA Ayabonga  SONJICA Ayabonga score: 6 - WDALAKLIEV Detelin score: 15   DALAKLIEV Detelin 
21:23 Round of 32  TURKADZE Merab  TURKADZE Merab score: - WOUADAHI Mohamed Amine score: WO   OUADAHI Mohamed Amine 
21:29 Round of 32  ENCARNACION ALCANTARA William  WENCARNACION ALCANTARA William score: 15 - LEMBOUMBA Braexir score: 6   LEMBOUMBA Braexir 
21:46 Round of 32  DOGBOE Isaac  DOGBOE Isaac score: 9 - WSHIMIZU Satoshi score: 10   SHIMIZU Satoshi 


Men's Middle (75kg) 
15:20 Round of 32  OGOGO Anthony  WOGOGO Anthony score: 13 - CASTILLO MARTINEZ Junior score: 6   CASTILLO MARTINEZ Junior 
15:37 Round of 32  AKANJI Muideen  AKANJI Muideen score: 6 - WO'NEILL Darren score: 15   O'NEILL Darren 
15:55 Round of 32  HARTEL Stefan  WHARTEL Stefan score: 18 - COLLAZO PELAIZ Enrique score: 10   COLLAZO PELAIZ Enrique 
16:12 Round of 32  KASUTO Mujandjae  WKASUTO Mujandjae score: 11 - NAZAROV Sobirdzhon score: 8   NAZAROV Sobirdzhon 
16:28 Round of 32  ESPINOZA MENA Jose  ESPINOZA MENA Jose score: 13 - WHARCSA Zoltan score: 16   HARCSA Zoltan 
16:46 Round of 32  MIGITINOV Soltan  WMIGITINOV Soltan score: 20 - HIKAL Mohamed score: 12   HIKAL Mohamed 
 


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 28, 2012, 09:37:35 PM
Anyone see Gausha -v- Hakobyan?!

Gausha(US) was trailing Hakobyan by 1pt going into the 3rd round and it was a hell of a scrap in the last round. A few seconds left and Gausha drops him with a right, he gets a count and then when the clock was at 0 he drops him again and the ref stops it when Hakobyan was back  on his feet! Exciting stuff! :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 29, 2012, 12:15:00 PM
Today's bouts:

Adam Nolan is fighting at 22:15 in Welters.

Josh Taylor is fighting at 20:30 in the lightweights.

Freddie Evans is fighting at 16:15 in the Welters.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 29, 2012, 04:38:41 PM
Evans beat Abbadi 18:10 in the Lightweight category round of 32.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on July 29, 2012, 04:40:35 PM
Today's bouts:

Adam Nolan is fighting at 22:15 in Welters.

Josh Taylor is fighting at 20:30 in the lightweights.

Freddie Evans is fighting at 16:15 in the Welters.

Hoping I'm not going to jinx him but Josh Taylor is a very good boxer.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 29, 2012, 04:48:02 PM
Hoping I'm not going to jinx him but Josh Taylor is a very good boxer.

Conceicao that he is fighting sounds a very decent fighter too so it could be a close one!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on July 29, 2012, 05:04:12 PM
Anyone see Gausha -v- Hakobyan?!

Gausha(US) was trailing Hakobyan by 1pt going into the 3rd round and it was a hell of a scrap in the last round. A few seconds left and Gausha drops him with a right, he gets a count and then when the clock was at 0 he drops him again and the ref stops it when Hakobyan was back  on his feet! Exciting stuff! :)
Was at a bar yesterday afternoon watching this. I was probably the only boxing fan there, but the other people were more than happy to cheer for the American in the nationalism that the Olympics seems to inspire. So besides being an exciting finish, it was fun too. I'm sure after the Olympics are over, everyone here will go back to complaining about their country again. Probably like that in a lot of places.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 29, 2012, 06:31:00 PM
Was at a bar yesterday afternoon watching this. I was probably the only boxing fan there, but the other people were more than happy to cheer for the American in the nationalism that the Olympics seems to inspire. So besides being an exciting finish, it was fun too. I'm sure after the Olympics are over, everyone here will go back to complaining about their country again. Probably like that in a lot of places.

Yes it is! ;D



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: legs on July 29, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
is Boxing being shown on the BBC website only ?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on July 29, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
Well done Josh great performance.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on July 29, 2012, 08:19:10 PM
yes very strong performance indeed, could have thrown a few more left uppercuts on the inside but overall hes looking like a podium prospect.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on July 29, 2012, 08:21:22 PM
yes very strong performance indeed, could have thrown a few more left uppercuts on the inside but overall hes looking like a podium prospect.


Mate I said in the other thread that I thought he'd be close don't want to jinx him but he can fight at a much higher pace than tonight.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on July 29, 2012, 09:03:59 PM
is Boxing being shown on the BBC website only ?

No mate, red button has it on too, just scroll across to B and look for Boxing, the clue bar denotes the times it is on

Think the Beeb are providing great coverage of this if I'm honest


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 29, 2012, 09:48:50 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18904166 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18904166)


Olympic boxing: Fred Evans and Josh Taylor through to next round
By Ben Dirs BBC Sport at ExCel Arena

Welsh welterweight Fred Evans and Scottish lightweight Josh Taylor made it three wins out of three for Great Britain's boxing team at the ExCel.

Evans, 21, did not have it all his own way against Algeria's Ilyas Abbadi but was too slick for his opponent, winning Sunday's bout 18-10.

Taylor, also 21, was good value for his 13-9 win over Robson Conceicao.

However, the Brazilian later claimed the judges had been influenced by a vociferous home crowd.

Despite winning European gold in 2011 and being world-ranked number two, Cardiff southpaw Evans was not seeded for the Olympic tournament.

But he made light of the oversight by outclassing his 19-year-old rival and joining middleweight Anthony Ogogo in the second round.

"Amateur boxing is all about hitting and not getting hit and Fred Evans is great at that. He's a great counter boxer - has a star been born here? That was a fantastic introductory bout from Evans, it was really good stuff."

And while he appeared to get carried away with the home support at times and was hit by a couple of solid right hands, his straighter, more clinical shots ruled the day.

"I haven't experienced that sort of atmosphere before, with everyone screaming for me, and it put me on a high, it was one big buzz," said Evans.

"The only time I've seen a crowd like that before was at big pro fights.

"I started swinging at times but that was just a bit of ring-rust, and maybe the crowd getting me going a little bit and me getting a bit overexcited.

"But that should sharpen me up now for the next fight."

Evans faces number four seed Egidijus Kavaliauskas on Friday, seeking revenge for a defeat at last year's World Championships.

"When he beat me in the Worlds it was after my [Olympic] qualification fight so I was switched off completely," said Evans.

"But this time I'm looking at medals and he'll see a different fighter.

"He's good, he won bronze at the Worlds, but he suits me - he's a short, strong, come-forward fighter, nothing I haven't faced 100 times before."

Top seed and reigning welterweight world champion Taras Shelestyuk received a bye into the second round, as did two-time light-welterweight world champion Serik Sapiyev of Kazakhstan.

Cameron Hammond, bidding to become the first Australian boxer to win a gold medal, looked impressive in beating Moustapha Abdoulaye Hima of Nigeria 13-6.

Taylor and Conceicao engaged in a cagey first round before the Prestonpans southpaw settled into his rhythm and began to control the fight from range.

Conceicao made it interesting in the third round as Taylor sought to protect his lead and, while it was close, the Scot was a deserved winner.

"The tactics were just to box and move, keep it long, and that's what I did," said Taylor, who now faces third seed and former world champion Domenico Valentino.

"It felt very close but I thought I'd won it and was in control. I wanted to give the crowd a bit of a thrill but it's not about that, it's about winning the fight.

"I'll do exactly the same against Valentino, keep it long and box him."

Conceicao, meanwhile, thought it should have been him fighting the Italian.

"It was no way a fair result. I boxed very well and scored a lot of points," said the 21-year-old.

"I really thought the judges were influenced by the crowd. That shouldn't happen in a competition this big."

The favourite in the lightweight division is two-weight world champion Vasyl Lomachenko, one of the greatest amateur boxers of all time. The Ukrainian received a bye into the second round.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on July 29, 2012, 09:57:47 PM

You can watch the Irish fights on RTE.ie, not sure if you can in Britain but I'd say so.

Nolan boxed well, in the last round he got tagged a bit but overall it was a good performance out of him.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: hoover on July 29, 2012, 11:04:10 PM
What's with the scoring at end of rounds only?

It seems to me like they are trying to avoid controversy of being accused of not scoring blatent scoring shots by just giving totals at the end of a round. I think it's a step backwards for clarity in the sport.

It is the new rule apparently, I am with you, much better having the counter


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on July 29, 2012, 11:55:20 PM
It is the new rule apparently, I am with you, much better having the counter
The new system uses an average of the judges scores and they've scrapped the 'one second rule'. Here's one article that explains it somewhat http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2012/07/28/2012-london-olympic-boxing-bring-your-calculator/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2012/07/28/2012-london-olympic-boxing-bring-your-calculator/)
One fight was a draw yesterday. So they added the scores of the individual judges as a tie-breaker. All in all, it's pretty confusing, but a bit more suspenseful when they're announcing the decision. Still, you'd think there has to be a better way.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 30, 2012, 05:29:17 AM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/touch/olympics/boxing/2012/0729/331078-day-2-boxing-vastine-begins-with-win/ (http://m.rte.ie/sport/touch/olympics/boxing/2012/0729/331078-day-2-boxing-vastine-begins-with-win/)

Day 2 Boxing: Nolan dispatches Sanchez Estachio



Irish boxer Adam Nolan advanced to the second round of the welterweight division at ExCel tonight.
The rangy Enniscorthy fighter expertly utilised a massive height and reach advantage against Ecuador’s Carlos Sanchez Estachio to record a comfortable 14-8 success.
The Irish southpaw looked polished from the bell and frustrated his muscular opponent throughout the contest.

The Bray BC pugilist built up a 6-3 lead at the end of the first round and extended his advantage to 11-6 at the end of the second.
Nolan’s ability to shift at will from his customary southpaw stance to an orthodox attack caused Sanchez Estachio a major headache.
However, the Ecuadorian upped his game in the closing stages.
He unleashed a flurry of potent upper cuts and appeared to shade the final round, but the judges scored the round 3-2 as Nolan progressed with something to spare.
Nolan admitted after the victory: "I was a little over-eager to get in there and get the win. It's like a cauldron and I was a little taken aback at the start, but without the crowd I wouldn't have got through it.
"I made it hard for myself but the main thing is I got through. My performances to get here were top-class and there will be pressure on the Russian. I will go out there and throw off the shackles and try to box with a free spirit."
Nolan was the third Irish winner after Saturday's victories for John Joe Nevin and Darren O'Neill and he added: "We have all sorts in the team and we're bonding really well. We are all behind each other 100%."
Four years ago Alexis Vastine had left the Olympic ring in a fury after two controversial final-round penalties cost him victory against the Dominican Republic's Felix Diaz and forced him to settle for a bronze medal.
Today the 25-year-old Frenchman enjoyed a happier return to the Games as he won his first-round bout in the welterweight division 16-12 against Germany's Patrick Wojcicki, and said his Beijing disappointment was in the past.
Vastine said: "It was a bad memory for me but you can't stay in the past, you've got to look forward. I want to look forward and to go further than I did four years ago."
Vastine's experience told against the 20-year-old German as he crafted a two-point advantage at the end of the first round and stayed in control with a powerful, accurate display which marks him down as one of the favourites at 69kg.
Also at welterweight, there were wins for Mongolia's Tuvshinbat Byamba, Canadian Custio Clayton and Australia's world number five Cameron Hammond, who had too much for Nigeria's Abdoulaye Hima, winning 13-6.
In the lightweight division, Kazakhstan's fifth seed and world bronze medallist Gani Zhailauov was lucky to survive against Thailand's Saylom Ardee, coming from behind to pull out victory on countback after a 12-12 draw.
Puerto Rico's Panamerican youth champion Felix Verdejo Sanchez, age 19, beat Juan Huertas Garcia of Panama 11-5 with a patient display of counter-punching, while Liu Qiang of China had too much for Australian Luke Jackson, coasting to a 20-7 success.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on July 30, 2012, 05:31:58 AM
I thought Richie Woodhall called Evans fight particularly well and it's good to have someone who understands the fighters and their styles. Evans definitely needs to be careful for the counter after he had thrown his shots as he was getting caught a fair bit and the screw shot seemed a bit loose too. I think his style will translate into an exciting pro but he didn't half remind me of Khan where he was just a bit too open and happy for a tear up


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on July 30, 2012, 08:08:11 AM
in all honesty i think we will see better performances from our guys next leg.. there must be tremendous pressure and the first bout will be good to get out of the way and now they will be able to concentrate on winning.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on July 30, 2012, 08:23:23 AM
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18904166[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18904166[/url])
The favourite in the lightweight division is two-weight world champion Vasyl Lomachenko, one of the greatest amateur boxers of all time. The Ukrainian received a bye into the second round.


Keep an eye out for lomachenko. Very special fighter


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on July 30, 2012, 08:33:03 AM
https://www.skybet.com/boxing/olympics (https://www.skybet.com/boxing/olympics)

If you scroll down it shows the day by day bouts.

starting from today 13:35

nice one mate. that's a big help.

so next up for GB is wednesday, we have luke campbell and anthony joshua on at 8.30pm and 11.15pm respectively


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: CSCS on July 30, 2012, 09:02:40 AM
nice one mate. that's a big help.

so next up for GB is wednesday, we have luke campbell and anthony joshua on at 8.30pm and 11.15pm respectively

Anthony Joshua might be a good one, he did a good number on Cammarelle.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on July 30, 2012, 11:08:05 AM
Anthony Joshua might be a good one, he did a good number on Cammarelle.


Yeah looking forward to seeing big josh in action again. It's amazing what he has achieved with so few bouts behind him.

Campbell is a special fighter too. A lot of people putting money on him for gold.
(Lost to a certain top forest fighter in the juniors though http://www.livefight.com/boxingforum/index.php/topic,18617.0.html (http://www.livefight.com/boxingforum/index.php/topic,18617.0.html) hint, hint  ;D )


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on July 30, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
Tony Borg just said Selby and Fred Evans box Friday


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cloughie on July 30, 2012, 11:25:33 AM
ANYBODY HAVE THE MATCH UPS NOW FOR THE QUSARTER FINAL SESSION 13.30-16.30 THIS WEDNESDAY

AM LUKCY ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN A TICKET

CHEERS/CLOUGHIE


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on July 30, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
ANYBODY HAVE THE MATCH UPS NOW FOR THE QUSARTER FINAL SESSION 13.30-16.30 THIS WEDNESDAY

AM LUKCY ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN A TICKET

CHEERS/CLOUGHIE

You jammy barsteward. You'll be watching Luke Campbell and Ant Joshua.

https://www.skybet.com/boxing/olympics (https://www.skybet.com/boxing/olympics)
Scroll down, it's about halfway down. Half a great time mate.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cloughie on July 30, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
thanks very much mate -- appreciate that. in fact i may have a spare ticket!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on July 30, 2012, 11:53:24 AM
it has always been my opinion that brian clough was the greatest thing that ever happened to football. ever.

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Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cloughie on July 30, 2012, 12:58:08 PM
ha ha ha finally someone has seen the light. if my japanese client decides to bail, and i'll know tomorrow, then it will be available. think though he will re-arrange his schedule as he is a big fight fan, but, you never know mate.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on July 30, 2012, 01:41:07 PM
ANYBODY HAVE THE MATCH UPS NOW FOR THE QUSARTER FINAL SESSION 13.30-16.30 THIS WEDNESDAY

AM LUKCY ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN A TICKET

CHEERS/CLOUGHIE

I'm going to that session too mate. Will most probably be sporting a Team Froch shirt.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on July 30, 2012, 09:27:07 PM
Been enjoying the bouts tonight some decent boxing.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on July 30, 2012, 09:46:04 PM
Been enjoying the bouts tonight some decent boxing.

The Ghanaian versus the Mauritian was some scrap! Not overly accurate but intense!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on July 30, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
The Ghanaian versus the Mauritian was some scrap! Not overly accurate but intense!

Lol I'm just calling them the red and blue guy some of the names are a nightmare.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on July 31, 2012, 02:50:28 AM
Haven't missed a fight yet, I must say that there has been some dubious decisions.

But overall not to bad.

 


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cloughie on July 31, 2012, 08:03:19 AM
I'm going to that session too mate. Will most probably be sporting a Team Froch shirt.

will make 2 of us!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: CSCS on July 31, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
Yeah looking forward to seeing big josh in action again. It's amazing what he has achieved with so few bouts behind him.

Campbell is a special fighter too. A lot of people putting money on him for gold.
(Lost to a certain top forest fighter in the juniors though [url]http://www.livefight.com/boxingforum/index.php/topic,18617.0.html[/url] ([url]http://www.livefight.com/boxingforum/index.php/topic,18617.0.html[/url]) hint, hint  ;D )


Cheers mate aint heard of him before, just looked him up now.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 01, 2012, 06:55:07 PM
What time is Joshua fighting at?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 01, 2012, 06:59:36 PM
What time is Joshua fighting at?

23:15.

Campbell is fighting at 20:30.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 01, 2012, 07:18:55 PM
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/3-americans-lose-at-olympics-126564 (http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/3-americans-lose-at-olympics-126564)


3 Americans lose at Olympics
Full results of all bouts to come.

Team USA endured a difficult day on Wednesday at the Olympic Games as three American boxers lost their bouts to amateur boxing powerhouses. Bantamweight Joseph Diaz, Jr. (S. El Monte, Calif.) fell to Cuban World Champion Lazaro Alvarez Estrada with heavyweight Michael Hunter (Las Vegas, Nev.) and super heavyweight Dominic Breazeale (Alhambra, Calif.) both falling to Russian opponents.

123 lbs: Lazaro Alvarez Estrada, CUB, dec. Joseph Diaz, Jr., S. El Monte, Calif./USA, 21-15
201 lbs: Artur Beterbiev, RUS, dec. Michael Hunter, Las Vegas, Nev./USA, 10-10 (Beterbiev won tiebreaker)
201+ lbs: Omarov Magomed, RUS, dec. Dominic Breazeale/Alhambra, Calif./USA, 19-8

Two U.S. boxers will look to stem the tide on Thursday as lightweight Jose Ramirez (Avenal, Calif.) faces Uzbekistan’s Fazliddin Gaibnazarov at 9 p.m. London time (4 p.m. ET) and middleweight Terrell Gausha (Cleveland, Ohio) faces India’s Vijender at 9:45 p.m. London time (4:45 p.m. ET).


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: ScottMillwall on August 01, 2012, 08:40:03 PM
The officiating in the Shimizu fight was nothing short of shocking. Gutted for him.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jorg21 on August 01, 2012, 08:41:35 PM
What a f***ing robbery that was!!!! feel deadly sorry for the japanese boxer.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 01, 2012, 09:14:04 PM
What a f***ing robbery that was!!!! feel deadly sorry for the japanese boxer.

What about the DQ of the Iranian kid, shocker, 4 years of training down the swanny for that!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 01, 2012, 10:21:03 PM
The Chinese super heavy Zhang Zhilei looked pretty impressive.

Joshua getting out boxed in the 1st round here... or not.  6-5 to Joshua.  Was a competitive round but the Cuban landed clean far more frequently, poor scoring.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 01, 2012, 10:25:06 PM
Obviously I want Joshua to win this, but the scoring is bollocks.  The Cuban is winning for sure... but the judges give our guy the 2nd by a point as well.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 01, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
savon was robbed there for sure.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 01, 2012, 10:29:54 PM
The Cuban dominated the 3rd round... and the score is?  Only 1 point difference.

Well, Joshua wins.  If I were Cuban, I'd be filing a complaint.  That was ridiculous.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Brick Top on August 01, 2012, 10:30:56 PM
Cuban very hard done by there. I'm not familiar with following amateur scoring but he looked out classed, heavy and slow there joshua


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: AO88 on August 01, 2012, 10:31:26 PM
Cuban won, for him to only get the third round by one point is a joke!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 01, 2012, 10:32:17 PM
 :o :o :o :o

That was terrible.

Joshua was beaten clearly.... Stunned three times and the ref let Joshua hold on for dear life at the end.

Comfortably outboxed, If the decision went against a home fighter the stands would have been pulled up


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 01, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
4 years of training to be absolutely robbed.

As far as I can see they have taken away live scoring of points to try and cover up the fact that they are not giving points for clean shots to some fighters and are giving points that never landed to others. There is no other explanation of why they took away a supposedly transparent system of scoring.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 01, 2012, 11:10:11 PM
4 years of training to be absolutely robbed.

As far as I can see they have taken away live scoring of points to try and cover up the fact that they are not giving points for clean shots to some fighters and are giving points that never landed to others. There is no other explanation of why they took away a supposedly transparent system of scoring.

What's worse, they give instant scores at the end of the 1st and 2nd rounds, but then have to confer for the final score.  WTF is that about?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Brick Top on August 01, 2012, 11:12:26 PM
Apparently the reason for no live scores is that they now take an average score from the 3 judges closest together


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 01, 2012, 11:15:49 PM
Apparently the reason for no live scores is that they now take an average score from the 3 judges closest together

...because that bit of simple math requires a human mind...


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 01, 2012, 11:17:28 PM
What's worse, they give instant scores at the end of the 1st and 2nd rounds, but then have to confer for the final score.  WTF is that about?

I think we all know....

I wonder will Sky harrass Joshua to give him a rematch with hourly bulletins on home town decisions.

Only in Germany eh....  ;)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Brick Top on August 01, 2012, 11:29:19 PM
...because that bit of simple math requires a human mind...

Eh?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 01, 2012, 11:44:08 PM
Eh?

They delayed the last scores to ''check'' them, even though its a computer system


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 02, 2012, 03:51:38 AM
Eh?

Sorry, I got confused.  (Happens far too easily!)  I thought you were talking about the delay at the end of the fight.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Brick Top on August 02, 2012, 05:30:18 AM
Sorry, I got confused.  (Happens far too easily!)  I thought you were talking about the delay at the end of the fight.

Ohhh right, yeah thats a fair point, no reason as far as I can see for the end of fight delay.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 02, 2012, 06:35:15 AM
If this had been the other way round we'd be seeing replay after replay of it on the "Beeb"!! Shocking decision!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: ScottMillwall on August 02, 2012, 07:30:18 AM
I see the AIBA have reversed the Shimizu decision. They say the referee should have stopped the fight because the Azerbaijani fella went down six times in the final round.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 02, 2012, 07:46:57 AM
Proper order, piss poor decision!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 02, 2012, 08:07:48 AM
erislandy boxed beautifully and almost looked like a weight below at times.

joshua at times looked clueless and cumbersome which i think comes down to his experience levels more than anything, so i have faith he will come again.

 


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 02, 2012, 08:24:04 AM
feel a bit sorry for Joshua hes not really had too many bouts in comparison but been really hyped and alot of pressure has been put on him. I think he lost but as Groves, Smith etc were all saying on twiiter brits and irish get shafted everywhere so it was about time we got a rub of the green.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 02, 2012, 08:28:48 AM
feel a bit sorry for Joshua hes not really had too many bouts in comparison but been really hyped and alot of pressure has been put on him. I think he lost but as Groves, Smith etc were all saying on twiiter brits and irish get shafted everywhere so it was about time we got a rub of the green.

Not to have a go at you Driscoll in any way but I hate that attitude.

Well on that basis the Cubans get shafted everywhere. Politically isolated, speaking a foreign language and never fight within 10000 miles of home!!!!

Two wrongs dont add up to a right. I think Joshua is/has been mollycoddled by the British media, who seem to need to have premeditaded darling. What about the other 6 fighters who are probably tougher and more talented?

Joshua should be out, simple as, a good fighter has gone home due to a corrupt decision and Joshua will probably ne carried to a gold medal that his ability didnt earn.

I wonder will Grves be saying that sort of stuff the day he gets a hard decision against him>?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 02, 2012, 08:33:27 AM
Not to have a go at you Driscoll in any way but I hate that attitude.

Well on that basis the Cubans get shafted everywhere. Politically isolated, speaking a foreign language and never fight within 10000 miles of home!!!!

Two wrongs dont add up to a right. I think Joshua is/has been mollycoddled by the British media, who seem to need to have premeditaded darling. What about the other 6 fighters who are probably tougher and more talented?

Joshua should be out, simple as, a good fighter has gone home due to a corrupt decision and Joshua will probably ne carried to a gold medal that his ability didnt earn.

I wonder will Grves be saying that sort of stuff the day he gets a hard decision against him>?


exactly thats why its amateur boxing is a sport.. you have to lose as well as win.

regardless of it being a big thing to lose in a huge comp like the olympics.

J.O. DE LONDRES (L'ANGLAIS ANTHONY JOSHUA - LE CUBAIN ERISLANDY) LE CHOC DU JOUR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-louonEG-M#ws)

shocking..


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 02, 2012, 08:43:40 AM
Not to have a go at you Driscoll in any way but I hate that attitude.

Well on that basis the Cubans get shafted everywhere. Politically isolated, speaking a foreign language and never fight within 10000 miles of home!!!!

Two wrongs dont add up to a right. I think Joshua is/has been mollycoddled by the British media, who seem to need to have premeditaded darling. What about the other 6 fighters who are probably tougher and more talented?

Joshua should be out, simple as, a good fighter has gone home due to a corrupt decision and Joshua will probably ne carried to a gold medal that his ability didnt earn.

I wonder will Grves be saying that sort of stuff the day he gets a hard decision against him>?

dont get me wrong mate im not saying that its right not at all, and to be fair it wasnt the worst decision iv seen, not even the worst of the day but like someone has already said you work hard for 4 years to build upto the most important moment of ur life only to get shafted by politics, its not right.

i feel sorry for him in the way that he's been built as something he isnt. hes an honest lad, and really new to the sport, but becuase of all the hype he will get alot of criticism he probably wont deserve


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 02, 2012, 09:44:26 AM
dont get me wrong mate im not saying that its right not at all, and to be fair it wasnt the worst decision iv seen, not even the worst of the day but like someone has already said you work hard for 4 years to build upto the most important moment of ur life only to get shafted by politics, its not right.

i feel sorry for him in the way that he's been built as something he isnt. hes an honest lad, and really new to the sport, but becuase of all the hype he will get alot of criticism he probably wont deserve

I dont think Joshua deserves a bit of critcism. He went in and fought his hardest and seems a lovely bloke. I dont think he'd have complained had he got beaten.

I just hate the hype machine and the corruption that goes on and is just swept under the carpet when it suits. If you switched boxers last night, todays papers would be crying out ROBBERY. I think it was the clearest ''bad decision'' I've seen so far in the games although I havent seen every fight. Hopefully there is no more of it.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: wbamitch on August 02, 2012, 09:48:22 AM
I'm glad Joshua is through but he is tremendously lucky, was simply outclassed imo.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 02, 2012, 10:34:01 AM
What times Josh Taylor boxing at today ?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on August 02, 2012, 11:37:03 AM
The Cuban was very good and should have got through however people forget that Joshua has been on the other side of a similar decision. Also, what about the British boxer (forget his name) who was robbed and some guy from Azerbaijan got through in his place.  swings and roundabouts.

I was expecting more from Joshua though so hopefully he can do better in QF.  As Richie Woodall said on Ringside a few weeks ago, you need a bit of luck at the Olympics so guess Joshua's had his slice.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 02, 2012, 11:59:18 AM
Thought it was a close fight, but on the last round alone I would have given it to the Cuban. Probably about even going into the last (poss Cuban 1 or 2 up), but he looked to have scored at least a 3 point advantage in the last.
That said these are not UK judges and it seems hard to believe any other country would want to score in our favour as we are the most reviles nation in the world.
Joshua showed his inexperience and did look like a novice at time in the 3rd round. Hopefully he can come good in the next round or he's out.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 02, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Joshua was poor, robbery ! Its peoples dreams they're ruining here f***ing disgusting.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: boybrooks on August 02, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Anthony Ogogo fighting at 2.30pm

Josh Taylor fighting at 8.30pm

Darren Oneill is on straight after Ogogo too. 2.45


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 02, 2012, 01:54:02 PM
Ogogo done well, very well. No-way he won it though.

Looks like you've got to knockout the GB lads to win, I don't like this.

I'm proud for Britain, but FFS its getting a joke.

52-52 countback no way.

He was getting peppered and bullied the last minute.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 02, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
well done ogogo fight of the tournament for me so far.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 02, 2012, 01:59:38 PM
hmmmm


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 02, 2012, 02:01:13 PM
They just robbed the worlds number one middleweight, what a fiasco.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 02, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
i dont think that was too bad a decision


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 02, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
i dont think that was too bad a decision

he only ate about 4-6 clean shots at the end of the round, especially the last 20.

This is what you call hometown decisions.

Joshua and Ogogo should be out, like it or not...


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Lane on August 02, 2012, 02:08:33 PM
fantastic from ogogo beating the world champion hopefully his draw will open up bait now


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 02, 2012, 02:10:14 PM
i dont think that was too bad a decision

driscoll.. he never won that fight, 3rd round your man was all over him.

theres some bad decisions being made!



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on August 02, 2012, 02:11:13 PM

Ireland's Darren O'Neill just got beaten by a German. He was fighting at middleweight.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 02, 2012, 02:11:32 PM
Another fighter robbed against a team GB fighter. Ogogo was definitely beaten if you watch it without blinkers. Two in a day, bit of a farce developing???

O'Neill beaten 19-12 by the German. Beaten fair and square in my opinion.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 02, 2012, 02:12:31 PM
driscoll.. he never won that fight, 3rd round your man was all over him.

theres some bad decisions being made!



yeah he walked him down in the last round no doubt but honetly overall i think the result was close so couldve gone either way with no complaints. maybe im watching with rose tinted glasses


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 02, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
fantastic from ogogo beating the world champion hopefully his draw will open up bait now

Fantastic??

More like fantasy.

I couldnt take pride in either Ogogo or Joshua's ''vicories''.....


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on August 02, 2012, 02:26:05 PM

O'Neill beaten 19-12 by the German. Beaten fair and square in my opinion.

Ye definately, the German was actually quite good, did everything right, just sorry to see a fellow Irishman go out


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 02, 2012, 02:44:49 PM
Ye definately, the German was actually quite good, did everything right, just sorry to see a fellow Irishman go out

boxed great that german.. similar to sturm in the way he boxes, tightens up then counters nicely.

driscoll tbh i think you got shades with no clear glass in!!!



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 02, 2012, 02:47:22 PM
boxed great that german.. similar to sturm in the way he boxes, tightens up then counters nicely.

driscoll tbh i think you got shades with no clear glass in!!!



fair enough i seem to be outnumbered in the opinion so ill hold my hands up  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 02, 2012, 03:13:29 PM
he only ate about 4-6 clean shots at the end of the round, especially the last 20.

This is what you call hometown decisions.

Joshua and Ogogo should be out, like it or not...

FFS piss off moaning ALL the time!

It's the olympics. Home fighters/athletes always get the advantage from sports where there are judges involved


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 02, 2012, 03:19:26 PM
Fantastic??

More like fantasy.

I couldnt take pride in either Ogogo or Joshua's ''vicories''.....

because your irish maybe ?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 02, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
because your irish maybe ?

Why would that make a difference. Most of the fighters I follow closest are English? Hatton was one of the reasons I got into boxing... I'd be nothing but delighted to say Joshua and Ogogo deserved to win, as they are both top lads and have lots of start potential. However they both lack the skills needed at that level and got a helping hand.

Nothing whatsoever to be proud of whether your from England or the Moon!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 02, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
Another fighter robbed against a team GB fighter. Ogogo was definitely beaten if you watch it without blinkers. Two in a day, bit of a farce developing???

O'Neill beaten 19-12 by the German. Beaten fair and square in my opinion.
The German looked tidy, No head movement from O'Neil and stood square on, I think the German will take a bit of beating!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cowboy55 on August 02, 2012, 03:37:00 PM
from what i've seen the scoring totally sucks the giant One Eyed Wonder worm


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 02, 2012, 04:10:00 PM
The German looked tidy, No head movement from O'Neil and stood square on, I think the German will take a bit of beating!

Yeah the German was very good. He had a very tight defence, looked accurate and heavy handed too. Darren was open to counters and using too many short range punches. He was just beaten by the better man.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 02, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Just watched the Ogogo fight there, crazy decision, showed huge heart and stuck at it but lost the last round convincingly!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on August 02, 2012, 05:19:23 PM
because your irish maybe ?

Definately agree with Mooreman, I'm Irish and most of the boxers I watch are British. I often felt boxing was one of the few areas where Irish and British fans actually looked out for each other, except when it comes to one of ours fighting one of yours  ;D and on that note come Monday.........WAR TAYLOR!!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 02, 2012, 07:30:21 PM
Definately agree with Mooreman, I'm Irish and most of the boxers I watch are British. I often felt boxing was one of the few areas where Irish and British fans actually looked out for each other, except when it comes to one of ours fighting one of yours  ;D and on that note come Monday.........WAR TAYLOR!!!!

I thought Josh was fighting tonight ?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: ScottMillwall on August 02, 2012, 07:42:43 PM
He's fighting now, mate.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: ScottMillwall on August 02, 2012, 07:45:20 PM
Fair result. Thought Valentino dominated the last round.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 02, 2012, 07:49:50 PM
pity josh wasnt english! Lol.

Great fight from both.. Il ove seeing this type of boxing, people who really want to win and be the best.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 02, 2012, 07:54:49 PM
I thought Josh boxed poorly tonight against a more experienced boxer. Would preferred to see him using his jab more he always had a hard draw however he's a better boxer than he showed tonight looked very tense and flat I know he struggles with the 60 kilo limit.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 02, 2012, 08:55:24 PM
Every fight I watch is a robbery.  This is a joke.  Just watched the double world champion from Uzbekistan run for his life, yet they gave him the last round.  How the hell?  This is awful; the pro rank scoring looks positively saintly next to this.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Stef on August 02, 2012, 09:03:06 PM
Every fight I watch is a robbery.  This is a joke.  Just watched the double world champion from Uzbekistan run for his life, yet they gave him the last round.  How the hell?  This is awful; the pro rank scoring looks positively saintly next to this.

Just caught that. By far the worse decision so far. He was out on his feet for the majority of the fight.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 02, 2012, 09:06:15 PM
And more Piss take ensues.  American against Indian, the American dominates the 1st round, conceding perhaps 1 exchange over the 3 minutes... and the scores go to the Indian 3-2.  It was so one sided, just ridiculous.  That 2 was surely missing a digit.

He bosses the 2nd round and it gets scored even... man, the scoring system is so opaque now.  At least the live counter gave something to go by as to what the judges were scoring.  Even in the 3rd, but it was the joke of a 1st round score that really cost him, even though he definitely landed more in the 2nd as well.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 02, 2012, 09:26:10 PM
TBH I've only seen one bout that had a questionable result to me.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 02, 2012, 09:39:31 PM
There's only 1 thing I like about the amateur system; the clock stopping whenever the referee has to do something.  Gives the referee more leeway to take action as it doesn't eat up the clock, and means time wasting tactics basically won't work other than to buy a few seconds respite.

Marata from Japan against an Algerian and it's a Brandon Rios vs Martin Murray style toe to toe war!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 02, 2012, 09:44:21 PM
Without amateurs and without people making the commitment to run amateur clubs there would be no pros.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gadje on August 02, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
Every fight I watch is a robbery.  This is a joke.  Just watched the double world champion from Uzbekistan run for his life, yet they gave him the last round.  How the hell?  This is awful; the pro rank scoring looks positively saintly next to this.

This and the Romanian boxer took it so well. I think for some of the International judges its a holiday and a payday rolled in one. A Big Mac bribe at Shepherds Bush is probably all it takes. ;) I'd want a Big Mac meal at least.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: cocksuckinknowitall on August 02, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
Without amateurs and without people making the commitment to run amateur clubs there would be no pros.

Of course; I'm not slating amateur boxing as a whole, just the current contest rules.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 03, 2012, 06:02:17 AM
Of course; I'm not slating amateur boxing as a whole, just the current contest rules.

No your slating the scoring system just as you slate the scoring system for pros.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 03, 2012, 06:49:02 AM
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/aiba-punishes-olympic-officials-126633 (http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/aiba-punishes-olympic-officials-126633)


AIBA punishes Olympic officials

Following the review of the highly controversial Olympic bantamweight bout between Japan’s Satoshi Shimizu and Azeri Magomed Abdulhamidov in which the judges’ decision was overturned, the referee of that bout Ishanguly Meretnyyazov (Turkmenistan) has been “expelled” and is on his way back home. Apparently no sanctions against the judges who scored the last round of that bout 10-10, despite multiple knockdowns.

In other moves, Frank Scharmach (Germany), the referee of a controversial light heavyweight bout between India’s Sumit Sangwan and Brazilian Yamaguchi Falcao Florentino, was suspended for five days, and International Technical Official (ITO) Aghajan Abiyev (Azerbaijan) was also given the boot for “a number of breaches of the AIBA Code of Conduct.”

Dr Ching-Kuo Wu, AIBA President declared, “I deeply regret that we had to take these decisions. However, our main concern has been and will always be the protection of the integrity and fair-play of our competitions. I will take all possible steps to reinforce this.”


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 03, 2012, 06:50:52 AM
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/olympic-boxing-day-six-126645 (http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/olympic-boxing-day-six-126645)


Olympic Boxing: Day Six

It was the second round of preliminaries for the Men’s Lightweights (60kg) and Middleweights (75kg) on the sixth day of competition at the London 2012 Olympic Games. The packed ExCeL arena was once again treated to some top-class action.

Afternoon Session:

It was a sensational start to the day with the first of the Lightweight (60kg) bouts seeing 24-year-old Vasyl Lomachenko, the top seed in the draw, against the Dominican Republic’s Wellington Arias Romero. Widely considered the best pound for pound Olympic boxer, the Ukrainian was just a cut above his opponent, effortlessly moving across the canvas, biding his time before picking his spots. A great mover, Lomachenko, the two-time AIBA World Champion, was being economical with his shots but when he did let fly, he was so accurate, a sweet left uppercut in the first round typifying that. Just to prove class, just as the round came to a close, he threw a one-two combination to the body before unleashing a right uppercut that caught Arias Romero square in the jaw. It continued like that in the remaining two rounds as the Ukrainian eased into the next round with a 15:3 win.

The action continued with Tunisia’s Ahmed Mejri battling it out with the orthodox Puerto Rican Felix Verdejo Sanchez in a very entertaining contest. Verdejo Sanchez was using his reach, moving well before pouncing with some good hooks as he took the first and second rounds in style. The same shots continued to be very effective in the final round as the 22-year-old from Puerto Rico booked his place for the quarter-finals where he will face the supreme Lomachenko after winning 16:7.

The contest between Kazakhstan’s AIBA World Championships bronze medallist Gani Zhailauov and Jai Bhagwan began fast and furiously with two quick operators going head-to-head. The Kazak’s footwork was just sensational as he danced around his opponent, looking to land the big overhead. The taller Indian’s defences were tight however and he was able to soak up the pressure before waiting for the perfect opportunity to land those hard right hands as he took the first. The nimble orthodox Zhailauov changed tack in the second and used much more variation in his punches and he got instant results as his rival was unable to cope with his speed as he scored heavily. In the third, the Kazak continued to dictate proceedings again to claim a 16:8 victory.

Cuban fourth seed Yasnier Toledo Lopez, silver medallist at the AIBA World Boxing Championships Baku 2011, took time to get into his stride against China’s Qiang Liu in the last Lightweight (60kg) contest of the session. Tentative in the first, the 21-year-old southpaw from Cuba was showing a lot of respect for his opponent who had looked very accomplished in his previous fight. Liu was standing firm to the unrelenting attacks of Toledo Lopez but the Cuban did enough to take the bout 14:10 and set up a meeting with Zhailauov in the next phase of the competition.

With several members of the Royal Family attending, including the Duke of Edinburgh, the much anticipated Middleweight (75kg) showdown between Great Britain’s Anthony Ogogo and the AIBA World Champion and top seed in the draw Ievgen Khytrov of Ukraine had the raucous crowd up on their feet from the first bell. 23-year-old Ogogo started off positively, throwing the jab then looking to land with the straight right on several occasions, a good left hook and a precise uppercut saw him take the first round. The long arms of the Brit were giving him good protection as the Ukrainian looked to land those body shots, then with another good left hook, he seemed get the upper hand but Khytrov came back with a right, and in the blink of an eye Ogogo had taken two standing eight counts in the closing stages of the second round. A sensational third saw the two boxers go toe-to-toe for three minutes with both trading a high volume of power punches. On count back, it was the British orthodox fighter who went through on count-back.

Ogogo was delighted after the win, declaring, “You have to believe in yourself and I certainly believed I could win. The Olympic Games are meant to inspire and I know I was inspired”.

Stefan Härtel of Germany was brilliant against Irish team captain Darren O’Neill, the European Championships silver medallist, working the body early on and showing real intent throughout the three rounds. Both boxers played their part in a scintillating contest but the desire of the German 24-year-old ensured he progressed 19:12 to meet Ogogo for a place in the semi-finals.

“It was very hard but we were well prepared for that. I had sparred with him a few months ago. The victory was deserved. I am now one win away from a medal and I want it”, said Härtel after his success.

Then the crowds were treated to a professional performance by Hungary’s Zoltan Harcsa which saw the 20-year-old orthodox dominate the powerful Namibian Mujandjae Kasuto from the first bell, using his superior technique throughout their encounter. The Youth Olympic Games bronze medallist had too much for his African rival, seamlessly landing every punch he threw as he recorded an emphatic 16:7 win.
The final bout of the evening saw tough Esquiva Falcao Florentino confirm his status as a gold medal contender with a quality performance against Soltan Migitinov of Azerbaijan. The Brazilian orthodox AIBA World Championships bronze medallist showed great tactical awareness as he constantly moved around the tough Azeri to outpoint his rival in each round and cruise to a 24:11 victory. Esquiva Falcao will now meet Zoltan Harcsa with a guaranteed bronze medal awaiting the winner.

Evening Session:

The action began with 2009 AIBA World Champion Domenico Valentino of Italy against the tall British southpaw Josh Taylor in the first Lightweight (60kg) contest. With a capacity crowd there to support the local boxer, the atmosphere was absolutely electric. Taylor started positively, landing with some good jabs but the experienced Italian orthodox fighter’s excellent shot making skills and quick counter punching saw him connect more times to take the first round. In the second, Valentino continued with his clever game plan, drawing in the Brit before throwing quick one-twos. Taylor was however now getting more results with his selection of punches as the points were shared in the second. The eccentric Italian’s movement in the third enabled him to land some clean hits and stamp his authority on the round, as he moved into the quarter-finals with a 15:10.

The Italian declared after his victory, “The fight went well for me but I did not box the way I should have. Taylor was very strong, he fought well. The crowd made it a lot harder but I knew how to handle it, having experienced it before”.

Powerful Lithuanian Evaldas Petrauskas, the Youth Olympic Games Champion, put on a show of controlled aggression against sixth seed Fatih Keles of Turkey. His unrelenting style was wearing down his opponent in the first two rounds as he worked the body with a succession of crisp hooks before looking for the opening to strike with the uppercut. The 20-year-old from Lithuania seems to relish fighting taller opponents, drawing them in to fight at close quarters before looking to pierce through their defences with some vicious shots. Striking fear into his rivals, 20-year-old Petrauskas is an old fashioned brawler who gets the crowd on the edge of their seats with the sheer amount of punches he throws. Although leaving himself sometimes open to getting the counter, he continues to move forward unfazed. Keles, his latest victim, put up a good fight but was ultimately defeated 16:12. The quarter-final showdown between Petrauskas and Valentino will be a real clash of styles.

20-year-old Jose Ramirez of the USA, who had come out on top in one of the stand-out fights of the first round of preliminaries, faced experienced Uzbekistani southpaw Fazliddin Gaibnazarov in the third bout of the evening session. The intensity level and the movement of Gaibnazarov were simply exquisite as he dominated the young American in the first two rounds to go into the third with a seven point cushion. Ramirez boldly threw caution to the win and went for broke, throwing his full repertoire of shots to claim that round but it was unfortunately too late and the 21-year-old Uzbek moved into the next phase of the competition.

In the final Lightweight (60kg) contest of the evening, the draw’s accomplished Belarusian second seed Vazgen Safaryants faced Soonchul Han. The tall South Korean orthodox fighter looked comfortable in the early exchanges, using his reach and throwing some stiff straight one-twos. After losing the first round, Safaryants came back strong, moving in close before looking to land with those sweet left hooks of his, the southpaw managing to claw back his two point deficit to draw level going into the final round. It was a good fight with both boxers going for it and the end result told as the scores were drawn. Impressively it was the underdog who was awarded the victory on count-back and Han will now battle Gaibnazarov for a shot at the semi-finals.

The Middleweights (75kg) then made their entrance with two-time AIBA World Champion Abbos Atoev first up against third seeded Romanian Bogdan Juratoni. The experienced Uzbek had looked lethargic in his previous contest but with an opponent now intent on attacking him, his slick counter punching style was coming into its own as he took the first round with some accurate hooks. The 22-year-old Juratoni, a bronze medallist at last year’s AIBA World Boxing Championships, was more measured in the second and caught his rival with good punches to reduce his deficit to just one point coming into the final round. Conditioning and stamina told in the latter stages as Atoev dug deep to claim a 12:10 victory.

There was a huge cheer from the crowd for the next two boxers as the USA’s Terrell Gausha went head to head with Vijender of India. The two orthodox fighters were trading jabs early in the first round before the noise levels in the arena went up when the taller Indian threw a couple of hard hooks to edge it. In the second, the 26-year-old Vijender began as the aggressor but the American stood firm and with both throwing lots of punches, the round was shared. The third was tense and both were once again evenly matched, Gausha tried hard but the Indian showed more endeavour to win it 16:15.

On the pressure he was feeling, Vijender said, “All of London is watching me and I know the whole of India is too. I know they love me and want me to do well and I love them back. I feel the pressure on me but I am used to it.”

Turkey’s Adem Kilicci had really impressed in his previous bout and looked to continue that form early on against Aleksandar Drenovak from Serbia as he dictated proceedings from the centre of the ring with a good variation of punches to take the first round. The 26-year-old orthodox Turk was simply irresistible in the second as he scored heavily. Drenovak played his part in a good fight but his opponent was just too good and Kilicci’s excellent performance, full of verve and passion, saw him advance to the quarter-finals in style with a 20:11 victory.

Number two seed Ryota Murata of Japan began in spectacular fashion with his trademark body shot-uppercut combination putting 26-year-old Algerian Abdelmalek Rahou in some difficulty early on. After taking the first round, the tall Japanese began throwing some vicious hooks to exert his authority on Rahou, who although was being dominated gave a good account of himself. Murata showed his class to confirm his status as one of the gold medal contenders by notching up an impressive 21:12 success in his first bout of the competition. He now faces Kilicci in what promises to be an explosive encounter.

* * *

Tomorrow sees the Men’s second round of preliminaries for the Flyweight (52kg) and Welterweight (69kg) categories.

August 2nd 2012
 


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 03, 2012, 03:50:51 PM
Better scoring today. I'm welsh, but going into that last roud 5-5 for Fred Evans was more than fair !

Got some great shots in the last round, and up to now. The only Brit that deserves to move into the next round fairly !


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 03, 2012, 07:56:15 PM
michael conlons a great talent!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 03, 2012, 08:42:54 PM
Selby pissed it, best boxer of the GB's is this kid.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jorg21 on August 03, 2012, 08:54:15 PM
Wtf were those judges watching?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 03, 2012, 09:08:02 PM
Well done selby! That ref was harsh with the points deduction.

Stalker on tomorrow. Lets keep it going :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 03, 2012, 09:29:27 PM
michael conlons a great talent!

Yeah he is! Very good!

Adam Nolan did well against a former silver medalist but his defence wasn't good enough and he was too crude at times. Great experience though.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 03, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
TBH I've only seen one bout that had a questionable result to me.

And what was that?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 03, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
Have India supplied Britain something ? Because they've knocked 2 yanks out the tournament that clearly beat the indians.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: AO88 on August 04, 2012, 12:53:29 AM
Decision overturned for erroll Spence who I heard was originally robbed, he is now through. Common sense by the sounds of it but the original judges should be sacked.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 04, 2012, 07:30:22 AM
good news about spence he beat the indian no bother..

these decisions are becoming a joke!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 04, 2012, 12:24:59 PM
good news about spence he beat the indian no bother..

these decisions are becoming a joke!

Its a shambles. Certain countries are getting gifts and others are getting shafted. It seems if your coming in with a name/brand/subway advert your a shoe in for a medal!!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 04, 2012, 01:19:55 PM
Good performance by Paddy against the world no 4. 4 boxers in the 1/4 finals. Going well so far. Hoping for at least 3 medals and maybe 2 golds. Conlon was always my dark horse coming into the games too and looked class last night.

Really enjoying the games so far, apart from the terrible scoring system.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 04, 2012, 08:31:46 PM
Captain Stalker up next. Come on Tom!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 04, 2012, 08:59:39 PM
Stalker was garbage, stupid judging again much much closer than what it was !

The Cuban will kill him, mind you him being English I'm sure they'd give him the nod  //


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 04, 2012, 09:14:51 PM
Ray Moylette must be gutted he messed about and lost the Irish title this year, he handled Stalker easily in the Euros and is only a kid.

Shows the important consistency is in Am boxing.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 04, 2012, 09:19:45 PM
Ray Moylette must be gutted he messed about and lost the Irish title this year, he handled Stalker easily in the Euros and is only a kid.

Shows the important consistency is in Am boxing.

Mate, number 1 in the world ? WHERE !!!

Them Irish lads I have been well impressed with, they have a great youth team also !



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 04, 2012, 09:25:11 PM
Mate, number 1 in the world ? WHERE !!!

Them Irish lads I have been well impressed with, they have a great youth team also !



Its the only sport we invest smartly in. We were hard done by this year that our two Euro Champions failed to get to London. For two different reasons though. Moylette pissed about and was his own downfall. Whereas Joe Ward was completely raped by the judges in Turkey against a Turk. It was a terrible terrible decision and Ward would have been a great Gold Medal chance.

In the next Olympics we should be stronger.

Your lad Selby looks serious;y good. Is he anything like his brother or just a different breed altogether?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 04, 2012, 09:35:40 PM
Its the only sport we invest smartly in. We were hard done by this year that our two Euro Champions failed to get to London. For two different reasons though. Moylette pissed about and was his own downfall. Whereas Joe Ward was completely raped by the judges in Turkey against a Turk. It was a terrible terrible decision and Ward would have been a great Gold Medal chance.

In the next Olympics we should be stronger.

Your lad Selby looks serious;y good. Is he anything like his brother or just a different breed altogether?

He's a different breed mate, his performance is not a patch on what he can Box like.. Seen him Box in the welsh champs since I was a kid, he was awesome back then.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 04, 2012, 10:53:50 PM
Stalker was garbage, stupid judging again much much closer than what it was !

The Cuban will kill him, mind you him being English I'm sure they'd give him the nod  //

nah he won that without a doubt, looked a bit shagged toward the end but not really a lot of clean shots landing from the indian despite his high workrate..... been most impressed with evans out of the GB guys so far..... like the look of the irish lad conlan as well... wouldnt mind seeing him and selby go at it again would be a very close matchup.






















Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 04, 2012, 11:08:17 PM
nah he won that without a doubt, looked a bit shagged toward the end but not really a lot of clean shots landing from the indian despite his high workrate..... been most impressed with evans out of the GB guys so far..... like the look of the irish lad conlan as well... wouldnt mind seeing him and selby go at it again would be a very close matchup.


Only a point between them in the Worlds and it was Conlons 1st major Tourney. Its going to be hard to win a close fight against a British fighter unfortunately though.






















Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 04, 2012, 11:23:02 PM
should be ok its only the english fighters that get gifts  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 05, 2012, 12:09:49 AM
should be ok its only the english fighters that get gifts  ;D ;D

Ha ha

Selby wont need much help anyways. He's not a hype job like Ogogo and Joshua who seem more manufactured than anything else. As Floyd would say ''Selby likes the smell of the gym'' :) The Irish boys are like that too. All about hard work. They know they will have to earn everything.

When can Selby and Conlon meet? Semi or Final if they get that far?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mac-rebel021 on August 05, 2012, 12:27:43 AM
Shelby is not beating Ramirez tonight


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 05, 2012, 01:08:32 PM
wow the polish girl at 51kg looks like a man!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 01:21:13 PM
wow the polish girl at 51kg looks like a man!!!

Chicken fillets and tissues in the bra ! That isn't no woman


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 05, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
chick with a dick


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 05, 2012, 01:43:22 PM

Come on Natasha.  Team GB. Go girl


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 05, 2012, 01:48:06 PM
Come on Natasha.  Team GB. Go girl
Come on Queen :)  Fun fight


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 05, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Great performance from Jonas, very calm and skilled!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 05, 2012, 02:16:27 PM
Great performance from Jonas, very calm and skilled!!

Yeah. Should be a cracker of a fight against Katie!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 05, 2012, 02:19:55 PM
Yeah. Should be a cracker of a fight against Katie!

She'll win by a minimum of 10 if its scored right. Different breed. Tasha wont get a wink of sleep tonight.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 02:34:03 PM
She'll win by a minimum of 10 if its scored right. Different breed. Tasha wont get a wink of sleep tonight.

She isn't 1/4 for no reason to wina  gold before shes even stepped into the ring.

Better not rob the paddy.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 05, 2012, 02:46:55 PM
She isn't 1/4 for no reason to wina  gold before shes even stepped into the ring.

Better not rob the paddy.

Shes a different breed pal.....

It wouldbe very ''Irish'' of her to blow it though  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 02:59:27 PM
Shes a different breed pal.....

It wouldbe very ''Irish'' of her to blow it though  ;D

*Carl Frampton aside *

No she won't you haven't had a decent fighter in years, and to be fair no-one has hyped any irish fighter up from recent memory. Katie Taylor is special she won't flap. That's England's job, just like the english footballers proved it yesterday  ;)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 05, 2012, 03:04:47 PM
Well done Tasha. She's up against it fighting katie but she's has a great chance. Should be a great fight and great atmosphere


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 03:07:02 PM
Well done Tasha. She's up against it fighting katie but she's has a great chance. Should be a great fight and great atmosphere

She has no chance mate, well actually your probably right as judges seem to put english fighters through no-matter what.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: G-man on August 05, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
That's England's job, just like the english footballers proved it yesterday  ;)
Wasn't that after a Welshman fluffed his lines? ;)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Wasn't that after a Welshman fluffed his lines? ;)

They missed when it counted most. He made it level first time around  ;)

Welsh players been the best for GB. Shame Bale never played, he's the best british player by a mile.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 05, 2012, 03:34:14 PM
f***ing turn it in with the English, Irish, Welsh bollocks you plums

It's amateur boxing, when has it ever been scored properly  //

Go Team GB eh?  //


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 03:41:33 PM
f***ing turn it in with the English, Irish, Welsh bollocks you plums

It's amateur boxing, when has it ever been scored properly  //

Go Team GB eh?  //

Out of a neutral perspective its not fair. To mention team 'GB' when certain fighters don't deserve to be in the next round is more of an embarrassment than pride and praise.

Can you imagine Joshua and Ogogo on ringside if they won 'Gold'.

How cheesey, when them 2 don't deserve to be in the competition, you can mention team GB all you want, the judges just destroyed peoples hardwork, dedication and complete sacrifice for 4 years.

It's perfect comparison as the english fighters have been given gimmes to the next round clearly, compared to the other GB countries..


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 03:51:46 PM
f***ing turn it in with the English, Irish, Welsh bollocks you plums

It's amateur boxing, when has it ever been scored properly  //

Go Team GB eh?  //

I'm all in favour of GB, I love my country. When someone wins and they don't deserve to win disgusts me. Regardless of where you're from.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 05, 2012, 04:11:10 PM
I'm all in favour of GB, I love my country. When someone wins and they don't deserve to win disgusts me. Regardless of where you're from.

It's not limited to any of the GB countries like you're making out though is it?

The Eroll Spence fight is a prime example of that, complete robbery and now the Indians are going nuts over it

Just enjoy it? I want them all to win and I don't give a shit if they get dodgy decisions because enough go against in us International shows. Amateur boxing if full of them, has been for years, has been during the Olympics and will be for years after too


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MFC_SE15 on August 05, 2012, 05:04:01 PM
Out of a neutral perspective its not fair. To mention team 'GB' when certain fighters don't deserve to be in the next round is more of an embarrassment than pride and praise.

Can you imagine Joshua and Ogogo on ringside if they won 'Gold'.

How cheesey, when them 2 don't deserve to be in the competition, you can mention team GB all you want, the judges just destroyed peoples hardwork, dedication and complete sacrifice for 4 years.

It's perfect comparison as the english fighters have been given gimmes to the next round clearly, compared to the other GB countries..


Why do you keep going on about English fighters? They are competing as Great Britain whether they are from England, Wales or Scotland. If the judges are biased as some suggest its going to be for all British fighters not just the English ones, there hardly going to go "this lads welsh so we don't need to be biased towards him".


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 05, 2012, 05:11:38 PM
Why do you keep going on about English fighters? They are competing as Great Britain whether they are from England, Wales or Scotland. If the judges are biased as some suggest its going to be for all British fighters not just the English ones, there hardly going to go "this lads welsh so we don't need to be biased towards him".

 thank feck somebody else has said it really starting to get on my tits tbh... think gaz would have been much happier with a joint welsh and irish teams by the looks of his posts.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on August 05, 2012, 05:14:32 PM


Well us Irish are happy to have our own failures and tragedies, we don't need more from other countries lads  ;D

Oh and did I say WAR TAYLOR!!!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 05, 2012, 05:16:31 PM

Well us Irish are happy to have our own failures and tragedies, we don't need more from other countries lads  ;D

Oh and did I say WAR TAYLOR!!!!!

taylors an animal... never been so sure of anyone getting gold before, just a level above anything seen before in womens boxing.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on August 05, 2012, 05:23:48 PM
taylors an animal... never been so sure of anyone getting gold before, just a level above anything seen before in womens boxing.

Definately, she is incredible, a credit to the sport as she's not just a brilliant boxer just a great role model for anyone getting into the sport. When I marry her I'll get her to join Livefight  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 05, 2012, 07:12:10 PM
She has no chance mate, well actually your probably right as judges seem to put english fighters through no-matter what.

She's in there so she's got a chance mate. Slim one maybe, not denying Taylor is brilliant, but  Tasha worked her way in and as long as she's in there pitching she's got a shout.

And bad judging goes in all directions. Callum Smith is english, was a medal prospect and he isn't even at the games due to being tucked up by judges.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 05, 2012, 07:24:58 PM
*Carl Frampton aside *

No she won't you haven't had a decent fighter in years, and to be fair no-one has hyped any irish fighter up from recent memory. Katie Taylor is special she won't flap. That's England's job, just like the english footballers proved it yesterday  ;)

Being a bit of a racist prick at the minute aren't you. I suppose mo farrah and jess ennis had help aswell. If you have an inferiority complex being welsh then just move.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 05, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
Looked like a body (liver?) shot that made Nevin take a knee. Appeared to still be in pain for the reminder of the round but he hung on.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on August 05, 2012, 08:06:23 PM
John Joe Nevin was brilliant, gauranteed the bronze now. Ran out of steam towards the end of the last round but was sublime otherwise and a perfect example of why foot work is so important, something even many professional boxers these days seem to forget.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 05, 2012, 08:29:56 PM
Looked like a body (liver?) shot that made Nevin take a knee. Appeared to still be in pain for the reminder of the round but he hung on.

Yeah some shot to get up from and survive! The Mexican was relentless and had a strong dig on him. The scoring in the first round was dodgy!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
Being a bit of a racist prick at the minute aren't you. I suppose mo farrah and jess ennis had help aswell. If you have an inferiority complex being welsh then just move.

No I don't have inferiority complex, I have a superiority complex  ;D.

Stating dubious decisions that many people agree with me on that Ogogo and Joshua deserved to lose. The Indians seemed to be given gifts too.

How is it being racist stipulating an opinion that the judges looked like they were doing the English lads a favour !

I want any BRITISH PERSON, nevermind a fighter to win against any foreign opposition. But when the other person has clearly won then they should be out whether a Brit or not.

Luke Campbell did great and more than right-idly so deserved his place in  the next round.

Are you trying to tell me Ogogo beat the NUMBER 1 in the WORLD. In that bout ! That last 20 seconds alone in the 3rd round won him the contest. Joshua looked so laboured and was out-boxed in parts against the famous Sevon name.


I believe the Welsh Boxers are Top 3 in the GB squad. Selby #1 a toss of a coin between Campbell and Evans for 2nd and 3rd.

Its hard to disagree with me on the Welsh boxers part as they have performed the best up to now out of the GB squad, alongside Luke Campbell who has Boxed very well. As for the rest of the squad they have looked lack-lustre and not fighters to be in the medal contentions.

If someone wants to disagree with me that is fine.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 08:48:59 PM
John Joe Nevin was brilliant, gauranteed the bronze now. Ran out of steam towards the end of the last round but was sublime otherwise and a perfect example of why foot work is so important, something even many professional boxers these days seem to forget.

Boxed great, showed great determination to get through that fight. Great body shot from that Mexican, he's like a little pro.

Super slick movement throughout, deserved to go through. Going to edge it to the Cuban in the final though.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 05, 2012, 08:57:56 PM
You stated that 'flapping' was England's job. In what way have any athletes from any part of gb 'flapped'. Just enjoy what you are watching. For the record I would say the welsh lads are the top in the gb boxing squad, but they are boxing at the Olympics hence they are part of team gb.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 05, 2012, 09:22:14 PM
You stated that 'flapping' was England's job. In what way have any athletes from any part of gb 'flapped'. Just enjoy what you are watching. For the record I would say the welsh lads are the top in the gb boxing squad, but they are boxing at the Olympics hence they are part of team gb.

Flapping as over-hyped and end up losing.

Stating that English players flap on penalties is hardly an insult, in the football on penalties they do flap, statistics prove that. It is now nearly known as a fact England will lose on penalties.

Explain the Sheepshagger insults I have been called a few times on this forum. Is that not racist ?

I regard it as.

Dare I say anything negative about England eh.

I've seen some disgusting posts to do with the Romany race on this forum also, calling them 'pikey scum' etc..etc..

How dare people tar people with the same brush. One of my best friends is half a gypsy, he is nor scum or a thief.

I call this condescending  //


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: glenn_user on August 05, 2012, 09:30:37 PM
there have been some home decisions in this olympics, not just boxing. the whole event is a farce and corrupt beyond belief.

only my opinion. but i hate everything it claims to stand for, its a joke.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 05, 2012, 09:47:41 PM
Dead proud of Nevin. To take that shot and get up and win the rest of the round was World Class. Thats how you earn a medal.

Now its time for Joh Joe to go and do something that an Irishman hasnt done in 20 years.

I thought Campbell did great to go on and take that fight out of the fire too. He 100% earned that decision, and the judges must be hearing about the worldwide attention being given to the dodgey decisions because they sure werent going to give him anything easy.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 05, 2012, 10:39:01 PM
Batamweight session was good to watch but the heavyweights // Teddy Atlas was so livid with the scoring and officiating during that one, at one point he said he was gonna throw up.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 06, 2012, 08:03:53 AM
that last heavyweight bout was terrible, they should embarrassed.

i have actually given up hope there will be a great heavyweight again we need a new evander holyfield, mike tyson, david tua etc etc..





Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 06, 2012, 08:35:10 AM
Flapping as over-hyped and end up losing.

Stating that English players flap on penalties is hardly an insult, in the football on penalties they do flap, statistics prove that. It is now nearly known as a fact England will lose on penalties.

Explain the Sheepshagger insults I have been called a few times on this forum. Is that not racist ?

I regard it as.

Dare I say anything negative about England eh.

I've seen some disgusting posts to do with the Romany race on this forum also, calling them 'pikey scum' etc..etc..

How dare people tar people with the same brush. One of my best friends is half a gypsy, he is nor scum or a thief.

I call this condescending  //

I wouldn't defend any sheep shagger comment, infact I was the one that pointed out how people would have reacted if they had mentioned your skin colour as an insult.
You know as well as I do you have been constantly sniping regarding English athletes in recent weeks, I dont like it when people make small minded comments regarding your nationality and I dont like it when you do the same also. Makes you look as ignorant as the people you are condemning which you clearly can't be as you can see the similarities in what you are saying.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 06, 2012, 09:00:29 AM
good lord.. keep it real lads.

the fact is we know (im british by the way) that MOST of the time the media hype our people far too much and we DO lose when we shouldnt.. ie england football.

the welsh are boxing brilliantly atm and tbh they have always been a notch up on our guys you only have to look at the pro ranks right now who governs who etc.. must be something in the water or the hills! (joe calzaghe?)

lets drop the petty insults, stop the racism if any has been brought up and enjoy the rest of the games we have some tough tests coming up now and should just get behind OUR people..





Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 06, 2012, 09:07:32 AM
good lord.. keep it real lads.

the fact is we know (im british by the way) that MOST of the time the media hype our people far too much and we DO lose when we shouldnt.. ie england football.

the welsh are boxing brilliantly atm and tbh they have always been a notch up on our guys you only have to look at the pro ranks right now who governs who etc.. must be something in the water or the hills! (joe calzaghe?)

lets drop the petty insults, stop the racism if any has been brought up and enjoy the rest of the games we have some tough tests coming up now and should just get behind OUR people..






this


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 06, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
That Nicola Adams is top class!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 06, 2012, 01:35:18 PM
That Nicola Adams is top class!!

Great fight  she was quality  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 06, 2012, 01:38:55 PM
Whens Savanna Marshall fighting. Ritchie Woodhall recons she hits like a fella


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 06, 2012, 01:40:51 PM
good lord.. keep it real lads.

the fact is we know (im british by the way) that MOST of the time the media hype our people far too much and we DO lose when we shouldnt.. ie england football.

the welsh are boxing brilliantly atm and tbh they have always been a notch up on our guys you only have to look at the pro ranks right now who governs who etc.. must be something in the water or the hills! (joe calzaghe?)

lets drop the petty insults, stop the racism if any has been brought up and enjoy the rest of the games we have some tough tests coming up now and should just get behind OUR people..

f***ing bingo. Some bad helmets in here at times

Great first round that, Taylor is boss


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 06, 2012, 01:41:13 PM
Great fight  she was quality  :)

bollocks.. missed it!!!!!



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 06, 2012, 01:42:16 PM
Whens Savanna Marshall fighting. Ritchie Woodhall recons she hits like a fella

She's on at 3.30pm.


Taylor v Jonas now
Katie dominated round 1  looks a class above tbh


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 06, 2012, 01:45:09 PM
She's on at 3.30pm.


Taylor v Jonas now
Katie dominated round 1  looks a class above tbh

shes world champ aint she?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
Taylor is better than half the men.

Absolutely giving Jonas a hiding.

She is lovely to watch.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 06, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
shes world champ aint she?

yep  but dunno why had a feeling that Jonas would take this,   better 2nd round from Natasha.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 06, 2012, 01:51:13 PM
That's THE female boxer!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 06, 2012, 01:52:06 PM

Well done Katie  she's The Boss


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 01:54:44 PM
That is performance of the tournament, she just pulverised Jonas in every department.

Dead cert for GOLD.

Sav is up soon, looking forward to Oggogo against that German. Hartel has impressed me with his tight guard very very difficult to penetrate. Ogogo is more slick, I think he will win, we shall see.

Think Joshua is a dead cert against the Chinese.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 06, 2012, 01:55:11 PM
KATIE!!!!!! Such a brilliant display!! And well done to Natasha for making it a hard fight.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 06, 2012, 01:55:38 PM
What was the final score?  This is the first session I have missed entirely as I'm back at work today after being off last week.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 06, 2012, 01:56:36 PM
What was the final score?  This is the first session I have missed entirely as I'm back at work today after being off last week.

26-15


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 06, 2012, 02:00:10 PM
26-15

Cheers mate, pretty comprehensive then.  I thought it was strange that the had gone with the 4 x 2's for the women's competition after reverting to 3 x 3's for the men.

I was at the ExCel on Wednesday and Nevin looked good for the Irish lads.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 06, 2012, 02:09:34 PM
Cheers mate, pretty comprehensive then.  I thought it was strange that the had gone with the 4 x 2's for the women's competition after reverting to 3 x 3's for the men.

I was at the ExCel on Wednesday and Nevin looked good for the Irish lads.

It's more rest and less time per round for the women's. They're fit though!

I'm watching the other quarter with the Chinese and Tajikistan fighters and Katie will take either of them.

Yeah John Joe has been very good and very clever. He knows how to exploit the amatuer system to win well.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Red on August 06, 2012, 02:18:42 PM
I've a soft spot for Jonas, she is a lovely lass and her diary has been a staple of livefight for a long while courtesy of John Evans.

But she was up against it today and despite her spirited performance lost to a clearly superior fighter in Katie Taylor.

Shame she never had a rest day following a gruelling fight yesterday against Queen Underwood.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 06, 2012, 02:26:27 PM
I've a soft spot for Jonas, she is a lovely lass and her diary has been a staple of livefight for a long while courtesy of John Evans.

But she was up against it today and despite her spirited performance lost to a clearly superior fighter in Katie Taylor.

Shame she never had a rest day following a gruelling fight yesterday against Queen Underwood.

Natasha did really well and made Katie work hard for it. It would have been a fitting final!

Katie has dedicated years of her life to this moment. She has been the forerunner of getting Women's boxing into this Olympics with her performances over the last number of years.

I agree with the rest periods. The women are getting a raw deal as far as I am concerned. I hope that is sorted out by Rio because they have proved they belong at the Olympics and should be given a fair deal.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 06, 2012, 02:57:11 PM
Marshall is getting stiffed!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: AO88 on August 06, 2012, 02:59:23 PM
Missed the fight, no shocks by the sounds of it.


Anyone seen the video of rigondeaux sparring/making Taylor miss? Can't put a price on training partners like that, from watching her try to tag him I think she feels everyone else is easy.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 03:18:24 PM
I've a soft spot for Jonas, she is a lovely lass and her diary has been a staple of livefight for a long while courtesy of John Evans.

But she was up against it today and despite her spirited performance lost to a clearly superior fighter in Katie Taylor.

Shame she never had a rest day following a gruelling fight yesterday against Queen Underwood.

Yeah she seems a lovely girl, but personality doesn't win fights.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
How the F*ck did Marshall lose that ?!?!?! Looks like i've talked to soon, because the judges just slumped Marshall, that Kaz was holding on and sloppy. Clean punches were definitely from Marshall.

This Olympic Boxing its frustrating to watch and beginning to piss me off.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 06, 2012, 04:14:21 PM
Yeah she seems a lovely girl, but personality doesn't win fights.

Clearly cos Calzaghe has the personality of a Tory MP


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 04:41:36 PM
Clearly cos Calzaghe has the personality of a Tory MP

Calzaghe's personality is as dry as stale bread. Pugilistic wise, best Super-middleweight of all time.

I'd rather support a great fighter, who would put you to sleep by saying hello, than a nice person who loses handily at the top level.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 04:44:15 PM
In recent words of Floyd Mayweather, not word for word but close enough ' This is combat, he's here to F*ck me up, so I'm going to F*ck him up. This isn't a gentleman's sport, this is Boxing, kill or be killed. I'm here to F*ck you up. If you don't like it, go play golf '.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 06, 2012, 05:38:14 PM
In recent words of Floyd Mayweather, not word for word but close enough ' This is combat, he's here to F*ck me up, so I'm going to F*ck him up. This isn't a gentleman's sport, this is Boxing, kill or be killed. I'm here to F*ck you up. If you don't like it, go play golf '.

I think you're going a bit OTT, people were simply saying Natasha is a good kid  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 06, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
I think you're going a bit OTT, people were simply saying Natasha is a good kid  ;D

kill or be killed homie!!

 ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 06:08:44 PM
I think you're going a bit OTT, people were simply saying Natasha is a good kid  ;D

It's Boxing, not a linguistic or a personality check / test.

Tony Ayala was a convicted rapist and a clear danger to the 'community'. Absolute beast of a man.

But he was a damn good fighter.

Now of today we have Robert Guerrera, a diamond of a human being, stuck with his wife through thick and thin. Donates to the charity etc..etc... Would he beat the convicted woman beater Floyd Mayweather ? Hell no.

All I'm trying to say is, scum or not. It doesn't determine anything in the Boxing ring. Nothing at all.

Reality is, if you can fight you can fight.

If you're religious, God doesn't choose one human over another. So the *scums* comeuppance in the ring is irrelevant to what the God, Jesus, Allah, Shiva and the elephant man worshippers pray.

And yes, I think I am being slightly OTT  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 06, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
I actually felt sorry for Jonas, she boxed superbly in both fights, the draw stiffed her! If she'd drawn either of the 2 in the other quarter final, she'd have won a bronze!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
Anyway back on to Olympic Boxing, I hope Ogogo can pull it off against the German Hartel been thinking about this fight today seems to be a very tight contest.

Joshua should have no problem vs the China man !


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 06, 2012, 06:21:09 PM
Anyway back on to Olympic Boxing, I hope Ogogo can pull it off against the German Hartel been thinking about this fight today seems to be a very tight contest.

Joshua should have no problem vs the China man !

fancy joshua's chances now, dont think he will meet another fighter like savon who was moved so well and was very light on his feet for such a big man.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
I actually felt sorry for Jonas, she boxed superbly in both fights, the draw stiffed her! If she'd drawn either of the 2 in the other quarter final, she'd have won a bronze!

Is N.ireland come under Ireland in the Olympics???

Oh yeah she really would be in the medals if Taylor wasn't there. Taylor really is special....

That Mary Kom looked very good too for India.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
fancy joshua's chances now, dont think he will meet another fighter like savon who was moved so well and was very light on his feet for such a big man.

To be honest I was raving about Joshua's movement for a big guy before the tournament etc... he was made to look static a few times !

Certainly changed my opinion on him. He can get better, he is only young.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 06, 2012, 06:25:33 PM
The Chinese and the Tajikstani fighter who boxed in the following fight, Tasha would have beaten either, if she'd avoided Katie til the semis!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Smokin Smiley on August 06, 2012, 06:41:15 PM
The Chinese and the Tajikstani fighter who boxed in the following fight, Tasha would have beaten either, if she'd avoided Katie til the semis!

Definately, that fight was shit to watch, Taylor vs Jonas was superb to watch, better than most male boxing, but I'm so proud of Taylor, doing my country proud, the ultimate role model, and my future wife  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 06, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
Is N.ireland come under Ireland in the Olympics???

Oh yeah she really would be in the medals if Taylor wasn't there. Taylor really is special....

That Mary Kom looked very good too for India.

Dual Nationality pal. If you feel like your Irish you declare for the Republic, if you feel British you declare for Britain. Most boxers declare for Ireland, but you will catch them representing NI in the Commonwealth Games too.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 06, 2012, 07:39:41 PM
Boxing and rugby are 32 county sports, they can't fight for Great Britain as boxers. The commonwealth games are different as they're split into separate nations!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 06, 2012, 07:41:01 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/touch/olympics/2012/0806/332299-ioc-record-noise-recorded-at-katie-taylor-fight/ (http://m.rte.ie/sport/touch/olympics/2012/0806/332299-ioc-record-noise-recorded-at-katie-taylor-fight/)

IOC: Record noise recorded at Katie Taylor fight


Updated: Monday, 06 Aug 2012 19:07


The decibel level during Katie Taylor’s fight with Natasha Jonas this afternoon hit 113.7 – the highest recorded at London 2012 so far.
An International Olympic Committee official said the noise surpassed the sound recorded during GB's win in the cycling finals at the Velodrome last week.
The noise of a jet engine is around 140 decibels.
When Taylor's name was mentioned for the first time a full 90 minutes before her fight, London's ExCel boxing arena shook with a roar that one Irish fan said could even be heard at the nearby wrestling arena.
Inside the arena, fans witnessed the best atmosphere at a fight at the Games so far, as the crowd exchanged chants of 'Team GB and 'Ole, Ole, Ole',
While British fighters have boxed in front of partisan crowds every day so far, Jonas' supporters were vastly outnumbered and outsung by the Irish fans, with a huge number of tricolours to be seen around the venue.
Back home, more than 6,000 boxing fans lined Bray seafront to see Taylor guarantee at least a bronze at the Olympics.
There was a great atmosphere as the champion fighter's Olympic debut was shown on an open-air big screen.
The boxer looked every inch a gold medal winner in waiting. She was briefly troubled in the second round but extended her advantage in a final two-round battering that saw Jonas receive two standing counts, thanks to a couple of thunderous right hands from the Bray boxer..


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 06, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
great performance from ogogo.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 06, 2012, 08:56:24 PM
great performance from ogogo.

yes thought he tired abit in the 3rd  but great performance  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 06, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
yes thought he tired abit in the 3rd  but great performance  :)

yeah he's tired quite a bit in his last two contests.... quite like the look of this brazilian lad.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 06, 2012, 09:03:15 PM
yeah he's tired quite a bit in his last two contests.... quite like the look of this brazilian lad.

looks very sharp and tidy  not wasting any energy very efficient 
Who does Ogogo meet next?  I think its Friday at 3.00pm


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
The Jap is effective.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 06, 2012, 09:42:14 PM
Superfit, boxed the last round like it was the first!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 06, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
The commentator pisses me off so annoying, he says pointless things and literally doesn't shut up for a second.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 06, 2012, 10:07:06 PM
looks very sharp and tidy  not wasting any energy very efficient 
Who does Ogogo meet next?  I think its Friday at 3.00pm

he'll be fighting the brazilian lad falcao next.... very tough fight indeed.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 06, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
better performance from joshua... dont think the chinese lad had much interest after being put on his arse in the second.... fancy the big kazakh lad for gold in the super heavy division.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 06, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
Props to Marlen Esparza and Claressa Shields (only 17 years old) for assuring us at least a couple of medals in boxing :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Socrates on August 07, 2012, 06:13:12 AM
The commentator pisses me off so annoying, he says pointless things and literally doesn't shut up for a second.

Irony


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 07, 2012, 06:22:07 AM
Props to Marlen Esparza and Claressa Shields (only 17 years old) for assuring us at least a couple of medals in boxing :)

Both US girls looked class yesterday! Completely different styles though, Shields was like a young female Tyson against the taller Swede!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: liamo on August 07, 2012, 06:36:46 AM
Irony

Brilliant! :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: liamo on August 07, 2012, 06:40:05 AM
The Irish support for Taylor was unreal... It looked and sounded like it could have be at the national stadium!!

On another note does anyone think Ogogo looks like he's on pills after a fight with wide eyes and vacant stare??


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 07, 2012, 06:46:58 AM
The Irish support for Taylor was unreal... It looked and sounded like it could have be at the national stadium!!

On another note does anyone think Ogogo looks like he's on pills after a fight with wide eyes and vacant stare??

You mean when he walked around the ring? He was just soaking up the atmosphere.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 07, 2012, 08:26:57 AM
sorry but i just dont rate him.. the best people i have seen fight from GB has been the welshys, the girls have been superb and ireland have been great.

joshua boxed well last night but i cant erase the cuba fight as i saw that as a loss.

all in all i see selby going all the way, i really hope i am right, great style in the ring.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Kevan2 on August 07, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
Irony

   Had me wetting myself..................


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 07, 2012, 08:38:22 AM
sorry but i just dont rate him.. the best people i have seen fight from GB has been the welshys, the girls have been superb and ireland have been great.

joshua boxed well last night but i cant erase the cuba fight as i saw that as a loss.

all in all i see selby going all the way, i really hope i am right, great style in the ring.

I think its a bit harsh to hold that result against him.  I thought that Savon had it by a point or so myself but Joshua nicking it by a point wasn't an outrageous decision.  It's a bit unfair to compare him to the likes of Selby who's been in the gym since he was about 8 when Joshua has only been in the sport for a few years.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 07, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
I think its a bit harsh to hold that result against him.  I thought that Savon had it by a point or so myself but Joshua nicking it by a point wasn't an outrageous decision.  It's a bit unfair to compare him to the likes of Selby who's been in the gym since he was about 8 when Joshua has only been in the sport for a few years.

im not being harsh its just how i saw it mate.. savon boxed his ass off at times.

as for being unfair comparing, well i dont get your point ? this is the olympics i see selby as one of our best talents in the gb squad alongside the girls who have shown great form (the draw messed us up).

if you meant i was not rating joshua, i meant ogogo.. he hasnt looked like i thought he would have done, hes looked better in previous fights, maybe its the level hes boxing at currently i dont know, ive seen better performances from him in the past thats all im saying.





Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 07, 2012, 09:30:34 AM
im not being harsh its just how i saw it mate.. savon boxed his ass off at times.

as for being unfair comparing, well i dont get your point ? this is the olympics i see selby as one of our best talents in the gb squad alongside the girls who have shown great form (the draw messed us up).

if you meant i was not rating joshua, i meant ogogo.. he hasnt looked like i thought he would have done, hes looked better in previous fights, maybe its the level hes boxing at currently i dont know, ive seen better performances from him in the past thats all im saying.

I agree that Savon boxed well, I just meant it wasn't Joshua's fault the judges scored it for him.

My mistake mate, I thought you meant Josh, not Ogogo.  Funnily enough, I didn't think Selby looked all that in his first contest as the #2 seed but hopefully he's had a run out he'll start to come into his own in the next round.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 07, 2012, 09:48:32 AM
I agree that Savon boxed well, I just meant it wasn't Joshua's fault the judges scored it for him.

My mistake mate, I thought you meant Josh, not Ogogo.  Funnily enough, I didn't think Selby looked all that in his first contest as the #2 seed but hopefully he's had a run out he'll start to come into his own in the next round.

no worries.. yes i think so too (selby), it cant be easy being dropped into it like that and be expected to perform top notch first time round. i do expect alot more from him now though, but as i say i think he will produce the goods.




Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 07, 2012, 12:49:37 PM
Looking forward to Michael Conlans fight tonight, have been really impressed with him since seeing him In the Senior Nationals, have a feeling he may do a bit better than Bronze! ;)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 07, 2012, 05:22:25 PM
Looking forward to Michael Conlans fight tonight, have been really impressed with him since seeing him In the Senior Nationals, have a feeling he may do a bit better than Bronze! ;)

I thought before the Games that he would be the one to do the best from the Men. If he scrapes home tonight he will have no pressure on him and a match with Selby would be brilliant!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 07, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
He's beaten this French guy twice recently so he should hold no surprises, with a bit of luck!;)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
He's beaten this French guy twice recently so he should hold no surprises, with a bit of luck!;)

Sounds good, might put a bit on him as he's 1/2 which is good odds.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 07, 2012, 08:25:13 PM
Great finish to the fight by Conlon! He's a brilliant talent.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 07, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
Some minerals fighting 3 rounds as a southpaw in an Olympic quarter final when he's orthodox!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 08:31:41 PM
Selby is getting robbed disgusting


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 07, 2012, 08:34:30 PM
Well earned and brilliant win. A third boxing medal for the team with Barnes to go tomorrow. They fought and scrapped for everything. Very very proud.

Conlon kept going and even when he was only level after 2 even though he should have been 3 or 4 up going into the last. Serious guts.

Whatever happens now doesnt matter. Pressure is off and he has achieved an amazing feat at his age.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 08:35:09 PM
Going to f***ing rob him


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 07, 2012, 08:35:57 PM
Selby is getting robbed disgusting

Pal. I really wanted Selby to win. But the Cuban won that fight for sure. Its written all over Selbys face and body language. Ramirez landed counter after counter.

Gutted for Andrew.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 08:37:08 PM
Biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen, Selby never lost that. F*ck me, robbing him in London.

Makes me sick.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 08:38:39 PM
Pal. I really wanted Selby to win. But the Cuban won that fight for sure. Its written all over Selbys face and body language. Ramirez landed counter after counter.

Gutted for Andrew.

4 points end of the first ? LOL. WHERE!?!?!

Please. How many punches did Selby land with to Ramirez's guts.

F*ck amateur Boxing.

Going to rob Fred next you watch.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: ScottMillwall on August 07, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
I had the Cuban winning. Most of Selby's shots were hitting the arms and he got countered time and time again. Real shame because I thought Selby started brightly.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 07, 2012, 08:40:03 PM
Biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen, Selby never lost that. F*ck me, robbing him in London.

Makes me sick.

He did lose mate. The Cuban picked him off with solid shots. Those little flurries werent landing and we know they rarely score a body shot.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 08:42:19 PM
Selby didn't lose,  no way.

I hope to God they don't rob Fred. f***ing disgusted.

They give Joshua and Ogogo wins. And rob Selby. f***ing joke, disgusted. I am fuming.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 07, 2012, 08:44:16 PM
Biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen, Selby never lost that. F*ck me, robbing him in London.

Makes me sick.

I had selby losing aswell mate. So did selby himself looking at his body language, that Cuban kid was brilliant on the counter. He also looked lots stronger.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Stef on August 07, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
I had selby losing. The flurries were nice on the eye but werent scoring. Cant see this cuban winning anything else but gold after that.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 07, 2012, 08:51:40 PM
Selby looked flashy but not much was scoring shots!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 07, 2012, 08:56:39 PM
I had selby losing. The flurries were nice on the eye but werent scoring. Cant see this cuban winning anything else but gold after that.

I think the Irish kid will give him a good go in the semi, but would agree he looks like a gold.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 07, 2012, 08:57:17 PM
thought selby lost as well. as fightin irish said not a lot landing from him at all clean shots coming from the cuban.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
Well after robbing Selby and the Frenchman, I expect nothing more than robbing Evans. My God this is f***ing disgusting.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 07, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
So the French guy was robbed aswell? Is that cos you're pissed off over Selby?? Sad mate


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 07, 2012, 09:03:18 PM
Feeling a bit better now calzaghe?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 07, 2012, 09:04:35 PM
Feeling a bit better now calzaghe?

Since Ogogo and Joshua were through YES.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 07, 2012, 09:06:53 PM
Well after robbing Selby and the Frenchman, I expect nothing more than robbing Evans. My God this is f***ing disgusting.

Deep breaths dude. Selby got out boxed, and Conlon outboxed The Frenchman in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for sure, maybe the Frenchman deserved the 1st.

Conlon will give the Cuban a good scrap IMO. Has the style, The Cuban is upright and Selby stood still.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 07, 2012, 09:11:50 PM
I wish these gb fighters would fight for 3 rds the lazy twats.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 07, 2012, 09:14:14 PM
Evans looking pretty good here.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 07, 2012, 09:22:07 PM
Wow

Evans threw that away!!!!

He was blessed to get that decision.

Blessed.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Tim2366 on August 07, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Selby was beat soundly imo, the french lad was robbed and Joshua is lucky to still be in the competition. Only saw Ogogos last fight but he looked good.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Tuco on August 07, 2012, 10:41:19 PM
Well after robbing Selby and the Frenchman, I expect nothing more than robbing Evans. My God this is f***ing disgusting.

 // //

lol!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: AO88 on August 08, 2012, 12:05:33 AM
Only caught the last minute or so of Selby but there was no complaints from the commentator or selbys team from what I seen.

Got to be honest I find the amateur game rather dull to watch, lost interest after a few fights in this Olympics. Still hope the home and Irish lads and ladies do well though.

Not suprising gaz thought the guy throwing shitty pitter patter hardly landing combinations won ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 08, 2012, 01:19:52 AM
Even Selby and his corner knew they had been beat

Disgusting, disgusting I tell thee


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 08, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
Taylor in the ring at 2pm for the Semi Final!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 08, 2012, 12:31:27 PM
Even Selby and his corner knew they had been beat

Disgusting, disgusting I tell thee

I agree. I badly wanted selby to win but he was well beaten. The first was close but the cuban picked up several clear points in the second and then did enough in the last.

Better timing and a tighter defence meant it was a clear win for him unfortunately.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 08, 2012, 12:54:03 PM

Nicola Adams going well  5  2  up after the 2nd.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 08, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
Shes a cracking little fighter!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 08, 2012, 01:01:53 PM
Shes a cracking little fighter!!!

She is isn't she.   Great win  :)

Katie Taylor up now.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Tuco on August 08, 2012, 01:14:58 PM
How fast is katie Taylor....lol
Fantastic fight this.

I've been so impressed with the womans boxing, its been superb!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 08, 2012, 01:32:43 PM
Taylor boxed well within herself there, conserving fuel for tomorrow!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 08, 2012, 05:20:16 PM
How fast is katie Taylor....lol
Fantastic fight this.

I've been so impressed with the womans boxing, its been superb!

Have to agree, I probably wouldn't have paid much attention only for Natasha being scouse but I wouldn't even be arsed seeing it on undercards with the talent that's been on show!

Some of the fights have been wicked. Katie Taylor fights like a man, she would kick shit out of most on here!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 08, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
Great fight by Paddy Barnes! The Indian was some C**t! Head and elbows flying in! Paddy did very well.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 08, 2012, 08:20:37 PM
Dirty little bastard!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 08, 2012, 08:42:26 PM
Only caught the last minute or so of Selby but there was no complaints from the commentator or selbys team from what I seen.

Got to be honest I find the amateur game rather dull to watch, lost interest after a few fights in this Olympics. Still hope the home and Irish lads and ladies do well though.

Not suprising gaz thought the guy throwing shitty pitter patter hardly landing combinations won ;D

After calming down, Ramirez was too much for Selby.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 08, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
Dirty little bastard!

He should have been disqualified. Just one sequence had 2 headbutts and 2 elbows!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 08, 2012, 08:49:31 PM
After calming down, Ramirez was too much for Selby.


Haha fair play mate.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 08, 2012, 10:23:03 PM
Stalker was unlucky ! I didn't see him lose that that  ???


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 09, 2012, 07:32:31 AM
Stalker was unlucky ! I didn't see him lose that that  ???

I thought he drew and maybe just lost the first but won the 2nd and 3rd, he must be gutted this morning


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 09, 2012, 07:39:43 AM
Price and Derry Matthews were saying on twitter last night that doesnt matter how the fights pan out some fighters are going to be carried all the way to gold medal.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 09, 2012, 07:46:31 AM
Stalker won all 3 rds for me, to score the last a draw was a fuckin farce.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 09, 2012, 08:30:58 AM
Price and Derry Matthews were saying on twitter last night that doesnt matter how the fights pan out some fighters are going to be carried all the way to gold medal.

I though Stalker was hard done by last night, but Ogogo and Joshua both were very lucky to get through in earlier rounds, so not quite sure what Price and Matthews are on about!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 09, 2012, 08:37:53 AM
I though Stalker was hard done by last night, but Ogogo and Joshua both were very lucky to get through in earlier rounds, so not quite sure what Price and Matthews are on about!

yeah i agree mate theres been a few gifts for everyone. its just what they were saying

they were proper going on one. Price said that 2 GB boxers names were on the Gold medal no matter what. and thats its been like that at every competition he was in since he was 17


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 09, 2012, 08:38:35 AM
I though Stalker was hard done by last night, but Ogogo and Joshua both were very lucky to get through in earlier rounds, so not quite sure what Price and Matthews are on about!

I agree with you there.  Stalker lost a close one and went out which was unfortunate but Josh and Ogogo both got the nod in close ones and went through.  I though all three could have gone either way so don't agree with people screaming blue murder about this decision, although the Cuban's scoring for the last round was well off.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 09, 2012, 08:48:28 AM
yeah i agree mate theres been a few gifts for everyone. its just what they were saying

they were proper going on one. Price said that 2 GB boxers names were on the Gold medal no matter what. and thats its been like that at every competition he was in since he was 17

Ah, ok, he may have a point, I think it'll take a big performance from somebody to beat Ogogo or Joshua, I think both will get the nod in close fights!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 09, 2012, 12:11:59 PM
what time is the final for katie taylor today?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 09, 2012, 12:26:15 PM
what time is the final for katie taylor today?

4-45 mate.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 09, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
4-45 mate.

cheers fella


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 09, 2012, 01:32:54 PM

4.30pm for Nicola Adams final.

GO GIRL  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 09, 2012, 03:24:15 PM
She's been on fire all week, hopefully she'll do the job!! Great little fighter!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: HurricaneHig on August 09, 2012, 03:31:48 PM
COME ON KATIE!!!





Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 09, 2012, 03:35:58 PM
Adams on fire!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 09, 2012, 03:36:59 PM

Going great guns     ko in the 2nd  nice  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Stevie J on August 09, 2012, 03:37:13 PM
Adams is awesome. Superb boxing


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 09, 2012, 03:38:52 PM
COME ON KATIE!!!

Wait your turn mate, it's time for Nicola now!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Stevie J on August 09, 2012, 03:40:11 PM
lovely boxing in that last round, made the Chinese boxer look like an novice


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jorg21 on August 09, 2012, 03:42:43 PM
Great boxing from Adams well deserved gold medal.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 09, 2012, 03:43:49 PM
Great stuff from Adams  8)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 09, 2012, 03:45:05 PM
YOU BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 09, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
Well happy   great great fight from Adams.

And good luck to Katie up next  GO GIRL  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 09, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
There's a few here at work who know her so the atmosphere in the coffee room was buzzing. What a sensational performance it was too!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 09, 2012, 04:03:13 PM

Well Done Katie  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 09, 2012, 04:08:13 PM
get in !!!! Great from katie and nicola!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 09, 2012, 04:21:10 PM
I haven't seen the Adams fight but she was great by all accounts. Congrats to her.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 09, 2012, 04:23:33 PM
So proud of our Katie Taylor!! She fought a very tough opponent and had the weight of a nation on her back. She kept it together, fought a brilliant fight and fulfilled her destiny. Words can't describe it. :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gadje on August 09, 2012, 04:43:23 PM
Came home early to watch this. Still grinning. Three great fights well done ladies. To think of some of the stinkers of fights I've paid for over the years these girls put them to shame.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 09, 2012, 05:11:45 PM
Where the F*ck did all the Irish blag tickets for that??;)))


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 09, 2012, 05:22:30 PM
Great result I was a little emotional there and I'm not even Irish.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: 7777 on August 09, 2012, 05:50:06 PM
Where the F*ck did all the Irish blag tickets for that??;)))

Haha was thinking that the other day!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 10, 2012, 12:03:12 AM
Well done Claressa ;D

Congrats to all three winners today. The ladies put on a very enjoyable tournament. Kudos to all the participants.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 10, 2012, 12:56:46 PM
Completely GUTTED for Paddy. He laid it all out there. I wont go as far as saying he was robbed on the countback. However he definitely won that second round and threw twice as many punches. I really cant see how he lost on a countback??

Some fighters need to be carried out in a coffin in order to lose a match in the Olympics.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 10, 2012, 01:03:03 PM
He threw twice as many shots, can't understand how he lost on count back, 45-44 apparently!! Great showing though!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 01:39:11 PM

Seeing as I can't post this in the Olympic Boxing thread.

Just sayin  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 10, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
It's not locked??


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 10, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
Campbell boxed well but looked knackered at the end! He's very tall, wonder is making the weight killing him?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Fightin Irish on August 10, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
Missed the first round but Ogogo getting battered for the 2nd and 3rd here!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Driscoll on August 10, 2012, 02:36:58 PM
looked nackered


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 02:45:08 PM
It's not locked??

It was  or maybe just locked to me  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 02:46:00 PM
Missed the first round but Ogogo getting battered for the 2nd and 3rd here!!

missed it,  just got back into the office.   I take it he lost ?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mooreman on August 10, 2012, 03:58:03 PM
Nevin vs Cambpell

Who'll win?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 04:04:15 PM
Nevin vs Cambpell

Who'll win?

WOW Nevin did it !

He is very technical and has the amateur game down to a tee.

I was getting my haircut at the time and managed to catch the Ogogo fight, but missed Nevin.

I like Luke Campbell, always boxes well everytime I see him fight.

Nevin is like a sweat-pea. I'll be happy whoever wins, but I will be cheering for Luke.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: HurricaneHig on August 10, 2012, 06:12:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3pzhbCh9Y&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3pzhbCh9Y&feature=player_embedded#)!


 ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 06:36:47 PM
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3pzhbCh9Y&feature=player_embedded#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3pzhbCh9Y&feature=player_embedded#[/url])!


 ;D


What the F*ck looooooooooooooooooool  :D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 10, 2012, 08:14:01 PM
whats the deal with your name gaz ? you lost a bet? ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 08:38:20 PM
whats the deal with your name gaz ? you lost a bet? ;D

no changing it back later just been messing about with password etc..  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 08:47:30 PM
Fred is boxing well, hope he doesn't switch off in the last round to join Campbell in the final


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 10, 2012, 08:48:17 PM
boxing superbly, the jab is really effective!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 08:50:58 PM
boxing superbly, the jab is really effective!

In the welsh champs he boxes with his hands by his knees, just switches off a little at least he has got his head on in this fight. Think he's won this.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 08:53:37 PM
Nice we have 2 in the final !  Joshua soon  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 10, 2012, 08:59:54 PM
Nice we have 2 in the final !  Joshua soon  :)

yes 1030 pm pal.

happy days  liked evans boxing style


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 09:06:41 PM

Hard Luck  to Paddy Barnes  tough fight


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
Robbery !


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 10, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
terrible!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Hitman on August 10, 2012, 09:53:35 PM
It's not locked??

It was, i unlocked it



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gavin on August 10, 2012, 09:57:14 PM
How's Joshua doing? I'm abroad and can't watch


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 10, 2012, 09:58:19 PM
How's Joshua doing? I'm abroad and can't watch

not boxing til 1145 gav. im going to bed but someone will put it up for you hopefully.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 10, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
He just won.

Silver at least for the lad


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 10:20:37 PM
Even if Joshua wins Gold, I can't take to him. He does nothing special for me to like him. He's very static, no head movement, no foot-movement, when he faints he paws.

If he go's into the pro ranks 'hyped up'. He will suffer with Frank Bruno itis, definatley gas after 8 rounds with his muscle bound arms.

The Cuban showed the perfect way to beat him.

People will be happy obviously but it was crap to watch with little if any skill.

On the other hand 3 finalists is great.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 10:25:03 PM
Even if Joshua wins Gold, I can't take to him. He does nothing special for me to like him. He's very static, no head movement, no foot-movement, when he faints he paws.

If he go's into the pro ranks 'hyped up'. He will suffer with Frank Bruno itis, definatley gas after 8 rounds with his muscle bound arms.

The Cuban showed the perfect way to beat him.

People will be happy obviously but it was crap to watch with little if any skill.

On the other hand 3 finalists is great.

FFS  give the lad a break.  He has just made the final and deserved it too on that performance.
Already getting slated


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 10:34:13 PM
FFS  give the lad a break.  He has just made the final and deserved it too on that performance.
Already getting slated

Didn't deserve to be in the final though, should be the Cuban.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: jimjack on August 10, 2012, 10:36:01 PM
Didn't deserve to be in the final though, should be the Cuban.

Lots of people get a decision some people disagree with, to do what he's done in 3 years is remarkable IMO.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gadje on August 10, 2012, 10:36:23 PM
Even if Joshua wins Gold, I can't take to him. He does nothing special for me to like him. He's very static, no head movement, no foot-movement, when he faints he paws.

If he go's into the pro ranks 'hyped up'. He will suffer with Frank Bruno itis, definatley gas after 8 rounds with his muscle bound arms.

The Cuban showed the perfect way to beat him.

People will be happy obviously but it was crap to watch with little if any skill.

On the other hand 3 finalists is great.

I think the Bruno thing myself but Joshua fights with way more fighting smarts and natural ability than Frank ever had and see what Bruno did on the world scene. won a world championship, outfought Lennox lewis until a left hook unhinged him(of all things) and gave Tyson a scare. This lad looks better.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 10:38:32 PM
I am not slating his achievements, I can just see the hype job next. I personally don't rate him. As too Campbell and Evans have shown some quality rounds and performances and glimpses of potential. Joshua just looks a lump to me.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
Didn't deserve to be in the final though, should be the Cuban.

Maybe  and that's his fault how ?    
Robberies at every stage so far,   just saying tonight  great coverage, build up etc  the only thing that has let boxing down in the olympics has been the scoring.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 10:44:45 PM
Maybe  and that's his fault how ?    
Robberies at every stage so far,   just saying tonight  great coverage, build up etc  the only thing that has let boxing down in the olympics has been the scoring.

Well how can you defend somebody that got out-boxed for the majority of a fight, who clearly deserved to lose. Then looks like he is likely to win a GOLD. More shambles than anything, I would like to see what half the yank commentators / experts would say if he is to win GOLD over the Cuban in this situation.

I'm sure he will be labelled 'lucky' and 'hometown' decisions of his success.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 10:51:10 PM
Well how can you defend somebody that got out-boxed for the majority of a fight, who clearly deserved to lose. Then looks like he is likely to win a GOLD. More shambles than anything, I would like to see what half the yank commentators / experts would say if he is to win GOLD over the Cuban in this situation.

I'm sure he will be labelled 'lucky' and 'hometown' decisions of his success.


HE DIDN'T SCORE THE FCUKING FIGHT  =   NOT HIS FAULT   do you get it now.

I'm sure if he was Welsh though you would have had him winning by a country mile  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 10, 2012, 10:59:25 PM

HE DIDN'T SCORE THE FCUKING FIGHT  =   NOT HIS FAULT   do you get it now.

I'm sure if he was Welsh though you would have had him winning by a country mile  ;D

Why are you pre-judging ?

Welsh, English whatever. He doesn't deserve to be there. When most of the nation missed his opening bout. And I'm pretty sure he will beat RC. It's all going to be over-looked when in reality the Cuban should be holding that gold medal.

The truth


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 10, 2012, 11:29:21 PM
Why are you pre-judging ?

Welsh, English whatever. He doesn't deserve to be there. When most of the nation missed his opening bout. And I'm pretty sure he will beat RC. It's all going to be over-looked when in reality the Cuban should be holding that gold medal.

The truth

Fair enough,  but as in everyday life you play the cards you are dealt with.
Joshua got lucky (blame the judges)    you don't rate him now because of that. 
He is still in there fighting for gold and doing his utmost best to get there,   you instead have just written him off.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: AO88 on August 11, 2012, 12:30:00 AM
Joshua seems a nice guy and good luck to him.

However I have to agree regardless of how pointless it might be that he should not be there now, and I honestly don't rate him.

I have seen very little of the boxing this Olympics as I find it pretty shit to watch tbh, but the shafting savon got in that third round is up there with the pacquio vs Marquez 3 score ards

Irrespective of what happens in the final he will turn pro and hyped to heaven, I can't see him being much cop as it stands. However in saying that the division is so shit he could probably make a decent run at it.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 11, 2012, 09:41:04 AM
Well how can you defend somebody that got out-boxed for the majority of a fight, who clearly deserved to lose. Then looks like he is likely to win a GOLD. More shambles than anything, I would like to see what half the yank commentators / experts would say if he is to win GOLD over the Cuban in this situation.

I'm sure he will be labelled 'lucky' and 'hometown' decisions of his success.

Like Calzaghe against Robin Reid?

It was a close fight against Savon, hardly RJJ v Park stuff.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 11, 2012, 10:55:31 AM
Like Calzaghe against Robin Reid?

It was a close fight against Savon, hardly RJJ v Park stuff.

It was close but I think he done enough, he beat him one handed, his hand was broke.

I'm not defending an Olympian who WILL BE touted as the next Lennox Lewis, Luke Campbell and Evans yes. But Joshua no, I can see the hype with programmes about him, then cameo's on ringside etc..

Trying to compare him to Calzaghe who broke his hand, wasn't outboxed but a close fight is silly, there is no comparrisons


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 11, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
It was close but I think he done enough, he beat him one handed, his hand was broke.

I'm not defending an Olympian who WILL BE touted as the next Lennox Lewis, Luke Campbell and Evans yes. But Joshua no, I can see the hype with programmes about him, then cameo's on ringside etc..

Trying to compare him to Calzaghe who broke his hand, wasn't outboxed but a close fight is silly, there is no comparrisons

It's not silly. You and the judges gave the fight to Joe when plenty thought he lost it. The same happened with Joshua. The state of Calzaghe's hand is irrelevant.

I do agree to an extent about what you say about Joshua post Olympics though, especially if he wins gold. He's not much more than a novice amateur so I fear he could come unstuck Harrison style if he turns pro after the Olympics to massive fanfare.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: AO88 on August 11, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
It's not silly. You and the judges gave the fight to Joe when plenty thought he lost it. The same happened with Joshua. The state of Calzaghe's hand is irrelevant.

I do agree to an extent about what you say about Joshua post Olympics though, especially if he wins gold. He's not much more than a novice amateur so I fear he could come unstuck Harrison style if he turns pro after the Olympics to massive fanfare.

Your wrong Hurricane, the state of Joes hand is very relevant when he is fighting.

It is the state of Kesslers when he lost to Joe that is irrelevant.

 ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 11, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Your wrong Hurricane, the state of Joes hand is very relevant when he is fighting.

It is the state of Kesslers when he lost to Joe that is irrelevant.

 ;D

 ;D I'll never learn will I!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 11, 2012, 07:04:45 PM
What the F*ck looooooooooooooooooool  :D
That's the Thai Tims, very famous Celtic supporters. I guess they like Katie, too.
Lots of info on them on youtube, nice story.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 11, 2012, 08:09:50 PM
Congrats to Luke Campbell. He fought brilliantly. Proud of John Joe and all of the Irish lads.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 11, 2012, 08:12:24 PM
Good fight, much better than the first one. Congrats to Campbell on a deserved gold medal win and to Nevin for a fine tournament showing as well.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 11, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
Good fight, much better than the first one. Congrats to Campbell on a deserved gold medal win and to Nevin for a fine tournament showing as well.

I thought Pongprayoon won the fight against Zou.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 11, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
I thought Pongprayoon won the fight against Zou.
I agree.

Good third round and win for Iglesias of Cuba. Is there a defection in his future ;)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 11, 2012, 09:02:01 PM
I agree.

Good third round and win for Iglesias of Cuba. Is there a defection in his future ;)

I'd say some Cuban bodyguards will be sleeping either side of him till the plane touches down on the other side of the Atlantic! ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MFC_SE15 on August 11, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
Well done luke, good performance especially for an englishman (that's just for gaz!).


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: NJO on August 11, 2012, 11:14:52 PM
Congrats Luke Campbell hope he goes on and does well in the pro ranks and makes a few quid as well now  ;)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 12, 2012, 08:48:15 AM
well done luke great performance.... must admit i didnt fancy his chances against nevin but he's been superb... very pleased for the lad.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 12, 2012, 10:31:07 AM
any idea on what time the boxing is on?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 12, 2012, 10:35:53 AM
First final starts at 1.30. Joshua finishes the show at 3.15


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 12, 2012, 10:39:14 AM
First final starts at 1.30. Joshua finishes the show at 3.15

thanks stevo


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mac-rebel021 on August 12, 2012, 11:43:18 AM
Really enjoyed these games,  London and GB should be
Proud. Fantastic effort from the Irish and British lads
who will sit at the top of the medal table in the boxing.
I never in my life enjoyed a sporting win such as Katie Taylors.
ESP to have seen her from nearly corner apron of the ring in
front of about 50 to 60 people demolishing the german national
Champion to go get gold in front of
10k. The boxer of the tournament for me has been Ramirez
Classy fighter.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 12, 2012, 11:57:04 AM
http://www.boxingscene.com/aiba-plan-sue-bbc-over-allegations-corruption--55966 (http://www.boxingscene.com/aiba-plan-sue-bbc-over-allegations-corruption--55966)
Interesting ...


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mac-rebel021 on August 12, 2012, 12:51:51 PM
This lad lomachenko has been a joy to watch.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 12, 2012, 12:57:36 PM
This lad lomachenko has been a joy to watch.
He's dominating this fight. That's for sure.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 01:35:30 PM
Pathetic performance from Evans. Didn't even go for it.

You have a chance and you throw it away, he didn't look like he even tried.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 01:37:29 PM
Campbell has been good from start to finish. Fought like a champion, he wanted it. Hats off to Luke, only one who's looked the real deal out of the GB lads.

Joshua should beat Cammarelle.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Terrible on August 12, 2012, 01:38:35 PM
Lomachenko of 2012 v Amir Khan of 2004, war!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: deck on August 12, 2012, 01:47:09 PM
Pathetic performance from Evans. Didn't even go for it.

You have a chance and you throw it away, he didn't look like he even tried.

He was getting countered the more he opened up. He's a young lad with a lot of pressure on him. He did really well to get silver.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
He was getting countered the more he opened up. He's a young lad with a lot of pressure on him. He did really well to get silver.

Trying to counter when your down in the final mate, people like to see heart. Sometimes you have to go for it. He never.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Red on August 12, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
Pathetic performance from Evans. Didn't even go for it.

You have a chance and you throw it away, he didn't look like he even tried.

Absolutely.

He was getting countered the more he opened up. He's a young lad with a lot of pressure on him. He did really well to get silver.

Very kind words Deck  ;)

The reality is if any of the boxers i know, had a chance to step into that ring in an Olympic final - they'd put far more effort in that !!

Fook me, there are lads on this forum that would have slung a few shots in - it's not like the guy was Mike Tyson who would poleaxe you.

Very disapointing.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 12, 2012, 01:56:16 PM
vry strange performance indeed from evans.... hope joshua can do the buisness.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Terrible on August 12, 2012, 01:56:44 PM
Trying to counter when your down in the final mate, people like to see heart. Sometimes you have to go for it. He never.

Yeah he had to go for it, its been shown in the previous bouts that if you go forward with a tight guard and slip to the left v the kazak you can have success, most just left it too late in the bout before believing in that tactic.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 12, 2012, 02:33:56 PM
Dont think Joshua did enough there


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 12, 2012, 02:35:45 PM
Joshua gold on count back. Hmm!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
I personally think Joshua done enough there ! And didn't deserve to be 3 points down after 2 rounds.

He's like a stretch version of Bruno though !!!


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: MadMariner on August 12, 2012, 02:37:24 PM
I personally think Joshua done enough there ! And didn't deserve to be 3 points down after 2 rounds.

He's like a stretch version of Bruno though !!!

I would have given it to the Italian but it could have gone either way.
Agree with you on the 2nd round thought that should have been a draw.

Well done Joshua  :)


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Stevie J on August 12, 2012, 02:37:43 PM
That was very close... 1 more round and the Italian would have fell over, swinging wildly looked very poor for an olympic champion.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Lane on August 12, 2012, 02:38:52 PM
thought joshua had done enough didn't deserve to be behind


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 12, 2012, 02:40:22 PM
hmmmmmmmmm......


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 12, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
The Italian was shit in the last. Poor for a reigning champ for sure! Didn't think he should've been 3 behind after the 2nd but unsure he won the 3rd THAT convincingly.  


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 02:42:45 PM
hmmmmmmmmm......

I'm not sold on Joshua, but he deserved the win Cat. To be 3 points down in the 2nd was horrendous judging and  he took that final round.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Tuco on August 12, 2012, 02:46:32 PM
Thought both were mediocre but the Italian just nicked it for me.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 12, 2012, 02:50:45 PM
Right guys. Count back, explain. in simple terms... thank you! ha


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 12, 2012, 02:56:38 PM
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 make sense mate?  ;D


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 12, 2012, 02:57:37 PM
I'm still having trouble when you get to 7..


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: wattsy on August 12, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
Appeal turned over and Joshua confirmed as champion, brilliant in the final round especially with the results after round two which i didn't think were fair at all


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: brocktonbomber on August 12, 2012, 03:17:22 PM
Very close fight, but credit to Joshua for taking the bull by the horns when he had to.

Great showing by the GB boxing team overall. Congratulations guys.

Hopefully we'll do a little better next time, but I won't hold my breath. Looks like the US program needs a lot of work.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 12, 2012, 03:47:31 PM
Will Hills are offering 6/1 that Joshua will win one of the four main heavyweight titles by the end of 2020.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: westbo on August 12, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
thought it was a fair result in the end.... really hope joshua stays amatuer for a bit longer..... he's extremely raw and not ready for the pro game at all yet imo.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: SteveR on August 12, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
thought it was a fair result in the end.... really hope joshua stays amatuer for a bit longer..... he's extremely raw and not ready for the pro game at all yet imo.

He's pretty much said that himself, so hopefully he'll stick to it


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Tito on August 12, 2012, 04:09:10 PM
Will Hills are offering 6/1 that Joshua will win one of the four main heavyweight titles by the end of 2020.

That is very tempting Joshua could easily turn pro and get a quick route to the top. Its not as though the Klitschko's will be around to stop him. You see how easy it is to climb the rankings he could easily get a shot within 20 fights. He probably needs to stay amatuer for another 2 years 40 odd fights as a amatuer is nothing.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 12, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
That is very tempting Joshua could easily turn pro and get a quick route to the top. Its not as though the Klitschko's will be around to stop him. You see how easy it is to climb the rankings he could easily get a shot within 20 fights. He probably needs to stay amatuer for another 2 years 40 odd fights as a amatuer is nothing.

That's what I thought. 8 years is a fair while even if he stays Am for another couple of years. Once the Klitschko's have gone it will be a free for all when it comes to the titles.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Tito on August 12, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
That's what I thought. 8 years is a fair while even if he stays Am for another couple of years. Once the Klitschko's have gone it will be a free for all when it comes to the titles.

Yeah that's what I was posting a few weeks ago in regards to Fury/Price not happening. You look at the rankings in the Heavyweights and there are some really limited fighters who have done nothing and are in position for a vacant title shot once the Klitschko's relinqish all 4 titles. You take Povetkin out of the equation and the likes of Fury, Helenius, Boystov and Pulev are all within each others limitations.
Haye, Arreola, Chageav and Adamek will get a favour getting a shot straight away but Joshua could get fast tracked to the top because there is no doubt he will suit the pro ranks better than staying as a amatuer.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 05:51:14 PM
Anthony Joshua was involved with selling cannabis, or something to do with drug dealing.

All I'm saying is money talks and bullshit walks.

He will go pro soon.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 12, 2012, 06:11:24 PM
Anthony Joshua was involved with selling cannabis, or something to do with drug dealing.

All I'm saying is money talks and bullshit walks.

He will go pro soon.

I don't think that's accurate. As I recall he was with someone who was carrying. Totally different to him being involved in drug dealing.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 06:17:38 PM
I don't think that's accurate. As I recall he was with someone who was carrying. Totally different to him being involved in drug dealing.

Well he was quoted to admitting to it and got a caution. Not totally different at all. Drug dealing is drug dealing.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 06:20:09 PM
I don't think that's accurate. As I recall he was with someone who was carrying. Totally different to him being involved in drug dealing.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/boxing/9470940/Boxer-Anthony-Joshua-triumphs-after-cannabis-suspension.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/boxing/9470940/Boxer-Anthony-Joshua-triumphs-after-cannabis-suspension.html)

Is that enough information for you ?

Joshua’s boxing career could have been finished when he was charged with possession and intent to supply herbal cannabis in February last year, and suspended by the British Amateur Boxing Association.
He pleaded guilty in court and was sentenced to a 12-month community order and 100 hours of community service, which saw him helping pensioners with their gardening on allotments in Finchley, north London.
Describing the experience as a “shock”, the boxer said afterwards: “It forced me to grow up and to respect my responsibilities.
“I'm not happy that I did what I did and there's no way that kind of thing will ever happen again, but in a way I'm glad it did because it woke me up. I go running on Saturday nights now, not clubbing.”


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 06:25:11 PM
The point to this is, he won't stay amateur, as it looks like he is money-driven. And the professional ranks especially now GB has a new hype job is worth a hell of a lot more than lottery funding.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 12, 2012, 06:49:16 PM
The point to this is, he won't stay amateur, as it looks like he is money-driven. And the professional ranks especially now GB has a new hype job is worth a hell of a lot more than lottery funding.

Fair enough.

Selling a bit of weed doesn't necessarily make him money driven, although it was clearly a stupid thing to do. Of course he'll go pro at some point but even if he goes pro straight away that's not to say its a detriment to his character. You have to take your opportunities in life. He already turned down a decent sum to go pro after he won the ABA's so he could fight at the Olympics so if he's all about the money he'd of take that, there was no guarantee he was going to medal at the games and be presented with a bigger opportunity.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Tito on August 12, 2012, 06:53:59 PM
Even if Joshua turned pro tomorrow there isn't going to be millions thrown at him like Harrison and Degale before him. Boxing like every other sport is struggling and a promoter isn't going to make Joshua a millionaire the easy way. I expect every promoter wanting to sign him because the Heavyweight division is still the blue ribband event in the amatuers so he can expect interest but he will have to work hard for it.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: The Hurricane on August 12, 2012, 07:07:54 PM
The point to this is, he won't stay amateur, as it looks like he is money-driven. And the professional ranks especially now GB has a new hype job is worth a hell of a lot more than lottery funding.

What would your opinion be if Evans goes pro tomorrow?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
What would your opinion be if Evans goes pro tomorrow?

He can box very lazy generally pretty flat footed. I don't know how to answer that. He might suit the pro game the way he boxes, he just disappointed so much in that final as he didn't seem to put it all on the line and more or less settled for silver.

Mixed thoughts.

I liked Campbell the best, he has been consistent for a couple of years and performs when it counts, good straight puncher and nice tight guard.



Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
As a whole, amateur Boxing has gone WAY DOWN. It has slowly gone down hill over the years, you normally see someone who you say yes he's 'special'.

And no-one has done that for me, and a lot of others I've seen on forums are agreeing that there has been no-one special this Olympics, Who you can label as the next Ray Leonard, Mayweather, even De la Hoya...

It's been pretty poor in my eyes, especially for the yanks not having one fighter on the podium ! Unheard of.

Lamanchenko and Ramirez have been the best I've seen. I doubt the Cuban is going to go pro as communism is still present, also Lamanchenko (don't know if I've spelt his name right) is not getting any younger.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: grizzlyadams on August 12, 2012, 08:02:42 PM
Lomachenko should be going pro hopefully, he made it well known that was his intention and I hope he goes through with it. He is a mature, experienced amateur and a fantastic fighter.

Disagree with the sentiment that amateur boxing is in decline, there have been some superb fights and some great performances in my opinion. I believe the divisions are more competitive than in previous years and that is why you don't see as many stand out performers. Most bouts that I saw were very competitive and a good technical standard. It's good to see 3x3s back as the old 4x2s could be a bit frenetic.

The problem, as I see it, is the lack of a stand out name in the US squad and the perceived youth of the GB squad.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 12, 2012, 09:03:58 PM
Stylistically it is two different sports the pro and am game. They're supposed to be warriors, not playing a game of tick, and waving your arm in the air to say 'I GOT THAT POINT'.

I hope to God, that the system is changed, it doesn't produce enough fighters that make it in the pro's.

Someone the likes of Scott Quigg, a fairly decent amateur, but not an 'Olympic hopeful', who was taught the pro game from an early age off Brian Hughes. Now look at him in the pro game, he certainly is a hopeful to reach the top.

The rules are horrendous, if you don't move out for a corner for more than 3 seconds you get stopped, even if they're getting taken on the gloves. Petty things like a little treacle of blood from the nostrils I've also seen people stopped for. I have seen so many poor decisions in the am game, its ridiculous. The hip it and hop it style is not a foundation to the pro game, you can't do that for 3 x 12 rounds.


Back in SRR days etc.. You used to see knockouts and people put away, now its over-protection and rare to see a good-stoppage.

I personally think it is shambles, I don't know if anyone else agrees with me on here. But I think its De-evolved than gone forward.


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: mac-rebel021 on August 13, 2012, 12:09:50 AM
Won 1300 off a 2euro acc, picked 9 winners from
the semi final stage.  Up in a heap waiting on Joshua
result. Put 100 on the Italian to soften the blow if
Anthony lost but even got that bk coz paddypower were doing
a money back special, should it go to count bk.
It even softened the john Joe loss, if he won my acc
Was gone, so silver sounds good to me


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 13, 2012, 08:18:21 AM
Stylistically it is two different sports the pro and am game. They're supposed to be warriors, not playing a game of tick, and waving your arm in the air to say 'I GOT THAT POINT'.

I hope to God, that the system is changed, it doesn't produce enough fighters that make it in the pro's.

Someone the likes of Scott Quigg, a fairly decent amateur, but not an 'Olympic hopeful', who was taught the pro game from an early age off Brian Hughes. Now look at him in the pro game, he certainly is a hopeful to reach the top.

The rules are horrendous, if you don't move out for a corner for more than 3 seconds you get stopped, even if they're getting taken on the gloves. Petty things like a little treacle of blood from the nostrils I've also seen people stopped for. I have seen so many poor decisions in the am game, its ridiculous. The hip it and hop it style is not a foundation to the pro game, you can't do that for 3 x 12 rounds.


Back in SRR days etc.. You used to see knockouts and people put away, now its over-protection and rare to see a good-stoppage.

I personally think it is shambles, I don't know if anyone else agrees with me on here. But I think its De-evolved than gone forward.

gaz.. quigg didnt box as an amateur i dont think pal? it was thai boxing?


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: Gaz Calzaghe on August 13, 2012, 12:27:54 PM
gaz.. quigg didnt box as an amateur i dont think pal? it was thai boxing?


3 years as an Am mate then he turned pro when he was young like 18 I think. Still won jnr aba and went to national tourneys.

Thai boxing was what he started on, then he went to Bury ABC, then Brian Hughes


Title: Re: Olympic Boxing
Post by: presa on August 13, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
3 years as an Am mate then he turned pro when he was young like 18 I think. Still won jnr aba and went to national tourneys.

Thai boxing was what he started on, then he went to Bury ABC, then Brian Hughes

thanks for that.. i did look on wiki beforehand haha.