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Title: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on February 20, 2015, 11:21:24 PM
Floyd confirmed via Shots.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 20, 2015, 11:23:26 PM
Until its signed and both are in the ring I will struggle to believe this is happening


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on February 20, 2015, 11:24:20 PM
Floyd has posted a picture of the contract with both signatures confirming it's on.

Shots is a social media thing he has invested in.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on February 20, 2015, 11:25:38 PM
Ring and Showtime confirmed too via Twitter.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on February 20, 2015, 11:28:17 PM
Confirmed on skysports news too.


Feels odd really due to it taking so long.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on February 20, 2015, 11:29:05 PM
Confirmed on skysports news too.


Feels odd really due to it taking so long.

Yep. Anti-climatic.

Announcing it on Shots is very cynical.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 20, 2015, 11:29:53 PM
I don't doubt its officially signed but after 5 years of all the bullshit that as gone on until that bell goes I am still in doubt something will happen to spoil it.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on February 20, 2015, 11:32:27 PM
What we guessing tickets will start at?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on February 20, 2015, 11:37:26 PM
What we guessing tickets will start at?

$600

And maybe 50 of those will go on general sale.

I reckon you need at least a grand to have a shot at a ticket.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DLINKLA on February 21, 2015, 12:22:34 AM
This fight is happening very soon

Not much time for fighter to start camp


I assume there will be no press tour

Scramble for tickets has started no doubt ticketmaster 6pm job again


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Ethers on February 21, 2015, 12:34:32 AM


Minimum $1k, with the majority being $5k

$90PPV and $150 CCTV in Vegas

With most tickets not seeing the face value market!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on February 21, 2015, 12:39:19 AM
Didn't expect this to be on but hopefully both have great camps with no issues and we get the bes May and Pac possible.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: stevenmason on February 21, 2015, 12:54:39 AM

Minimum $1k, with the majority being $5k

$90PPV and $150 CCTV in Vegas

With most tickets not seeing the face value market!

I read that too. Its a tv job for me. I feel sorry for any American who will succumb to paying those prices just to watch it on the telly. We all know they will as most fight fans find it hard to resist.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on February 21, 2015, 01:16:29 AM
Gutted I won't make it booked up for August since I never expected the fight to be on, Wouldn't pay those prices for a ticket but even just to soak up the atmosphere would be something to say "I was there."


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on February 21, 2015, 01:18:28 AM
What time we flying out Kev?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on February 21, 2015, 01:24:36 AM
They'll both have the same amount of time in camps as in previous fights. It doesn't need a press tour because it's had one for 5 years....

I understand people hating on this fight and that's fine but to continue slating it about anything and everything plus saying it's not interesting is bollox. This is the best fight out there for either fighter and it's going to be a great event, the fight itself will be exactly the same as it would have been how ever many years ago ending with a floyd win.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on February 21, 2015, 01:29:01 AM
Love to see the prices of a hotel room that weekend now.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on February 21, 2015, 01:52:02 AM
Love to see the prices of a hotel room that weekend now.

Monte Carlo is $900 for 3 nights and MGM apparently sold out in something like 3 minutes.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Chris on February 21, 2015, 02:39:08 AM
I'm already booked up to go to Manila to watch this with some mates, let me know if anyone wants to join us!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tuco on February 21, 2015, 03:18:59 AM
Does Manny get to wear his 8oz gloves or does Floyd make him wear pillows?

What are the terms and conditions?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on February 21, 2015, 03:56:45 AM
Does Manny get to wear his 8oz gloves or does Floyd make him wear pillows?

What are the terms and conditions?

60-40 split, no rematch clause, 147 and each fighter gets to wear his own brand of glove (until Floyd realize's Manny uses Reyes lol) according to Dan Rafael.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 21, 2015, 05:16:46 AM
I wonder what Bob Arum has to say about this...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Buckers on February 21, 2015, 06:52:31 AM
Any excuse to watch this video.

http://youtu.be/EtH3hQ9XTMo (http://youtu.be/EtH3hQ9XTMo)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: celticbhoy on February 21, 2015, 07:47:05 AM
I booked it in October. Had a gut feeling it would happen , 4-5 years too late but can't miss it. Anyway 5 nights in the mirage €789 inc flights. Let the games begin trying to box off tickets


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Flaccid Member on February 21, 2015, 07:49:07 AM
http://www.vividseats.com/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-tickets.html (http://www.vividseats.com/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-tickets.html)
Nose bleed seats 3k$!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on February 21, 2015, 07:58:42 AM
[url]http://www.vividseats.com/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-tickets.html[/url] ([url]http://www.vividseats.com/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-tickets.html[/url])
Nose bleed seats 3k$!


They ain't even confirmed tickets prices yet and some
Sites have the cheapest at $5k haha!

Getting a ticket for this is going to be unreal, just told the missus sorry but she will be having to do her own thing on the Saturday as getting one will be hard enough nevermind 2  :-\


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 21, 2015, 08:31:55 AM
A lot of people have talked about it being past its sell by date --and I agree--, but I have been buzzing all day. Going to be a fun few weeks ahead seeing it all develop. I like the fact that we don't have to wait for months and months on this, as they will pretty much both be going directly into camp.

I wonder how they will work out the 24/7 thing between networks?





Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 21, 2015, 08:33:18 AM
I'm already booked up to go to Manila to watch this with some mates, let me know if anyone wants to join us!

That may be a rough place to be if Manny loses!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on February 21, 2015, 09:00:40 AM
I guess I'm the only one not at all interested in this then?  It is a fight for the casuals and thrill seekers but has no bearing upon the sport of boxing.  Granted, it will generate obscene amounts of money and if that is the yardstick, then it is a success indeed.  For my own part, I'm relieved to say that I shall be dabbling my tootsies in the Indian Ocean that day, whilst sipping the dearest cocktail on the menu.  Nothing will be further from my mind than this stale heap of crap.   ;)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 21, 2015, 09:02:35 AM
I guess I'm the only one not at all interested in this then?  It is a fight for the casuals and thrill seekers but has no bearing upon the sport of boxing.  Granted, it will generate obscene amounts of money and if that is the yardstick, then it is a success indeed.  For my own part, I'm relieved to say that I shall be dabbling my tootsies in the Indian Ocean that day, whilst sipping the dearest cocktail on the menu.  Nothing will be further from my mind than this stale heap of crap.   ;)

Can you name a bigger or better fight in boxing?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on February 21, 2015, 09:15:05 AM
Can you name a bigger or better fight in boxing?

Seriously?  I struggle to think of a worse one to be honest.  Like I say, I know I'm pretty much alone in this and everyone is being carried on the wave of popular opinion and the general euphoria but this fight carries no appeal any more for me at all.  5 years ago I was all over it but that's a bloody long time for the pair of them to duck the issue and become past their best.  Pacquiao is now damaged goods and Mayweather has beaten the main man who damaged him.  What actual difference does it make to the sport of boxing which one of them wins?  P4P is just hypothetical BS but if Pacquiao were to win, does that mean he ranks as No.1 above Floyd?  Plenty will argue not, and if he DOES win, all the Floyd fans will say that wouldn't have happened 5 years ago.  Pacquiao fans will say much the same if Mayweather prevails.  And Vegas will be a lot richer for the event.  But nobody will know what might have happened several years ago.   ???


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 21, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
Not feeling the vibes yet tbh.

I wonder which broadcaster in the UK will get this fight?

Watt & Halling....  :-X


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on February 21, 2015, 09:43:57 AM
I'm absolutely not going.

But I am pumped for the fight.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 21, 2015, 10:25:45 AM
I really hope Manny knocks him out it would be funny seeing him getting humbled and even better if that prick Ellerbe is scrapping him up off the floor. I think Floyd wins though on points I wonder if they do both 24/7 and the showtime access shows


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AndyE on February 21, 2015, 10:44:03 AM
I want to go but can't justify the prices at the moment - might have to be a night with a few friends.

Or livefight rents a venue in the UK! Ha


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on February 21, 2015, 11:14:14 AM
Just waiting on ticket details to be confirmed, just seen articles of speculated prices so far. My hotel was booked and paid months ago and has near enough trebled in price.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 21, 2015, 11:21:52 AM
Great fight and likely won't be a classic however I'll set the stall out now Mayweather UD or TKO.

I guess this means we can have Khan Vs Brook now?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Gaz on February 21, 2015, 11:22:02 AM
The worry for me about this fight is that it will become more of an exhibition than a fight that will have a genuine bearing on the boxing landscape. Given the money that's guaranteed for both fighters out of this deal it's a concern that the genuine hunger to do whatever necessary to win will be compromised.

Apart from that I can't wait for it.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: hardknocklife on February 21, 2015, 11:26:06 AM
Seriously?  I struggle to think of a worse one to be honest.  Like I say, I know I'm pretty much alone in this and everyone is being carried on the wave of popular opinion and the general euphoria but this fight carries no appeal any more for me at all.  5 years ago I was all over it but that's a bloody long time for the pair of them to duck the issue and become past their best.  Pacquiao is now damaged goods and Mayweather has beaten the main man who damaged him.  What actual difference does it make to the sport of boxing which one of them wins?  P4P is just hypothetical BS but if Pacquiao were to win, does that mean he ranks as No.1 above Floyd?  Plenty will argue not, and if he DOES win, all the Floyd fans will say that wouldn't have happened 5 years ago.  Pacquiao fans will say much the same if Mayweather prevails.  And Vegas will be a lot richer for the event.  But nobody will know what might have happened several years ago.   ???

The same "damaged goods" that beat Rios, Bradley and Algieri with relative ease? I'm with you on that this fight would have been a lot more interesting had it happened five-six years ago but it still a fight that both die-hard boxing fans and casual fans have continued to express huge interest in. Unless Ward-Golovkin happens this is THE super fight


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mayne55 on February 21, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
With Bonters in this one lost my interest in it a long  time ago, it's now a pisstake money make out of fans and fools. I won't be spending a penny on it will be a free stream on the night for me.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on February 21, 2015, 12:08:13 PM
If the general consensus is that mayweather beats the other 147lb fighters, and that manny beats all the other 147lb fighters (with the possible exception bring marquez). Why would this fight not be relevant today ??

You either want to know who the best 147lb fighter is today or you dont ? The fight not happening 5 years ago shouldn't make too much of a difference, unless people want manny to avenge his knockout loss to make it relevant.

I dont get the negativity.

Which other 147lb superfight is there ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tuco on February 21, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
60-40 split, no rematch clause, 147 and each fighter gets to wear his own brand of glove (until Floyd realize's Manny uses Reyes lol) according to Dan Rafael.
I hear that Mayweather has set the terms for the make of gloves. I don't think Manny will bwe wearing Reyes.

I guess I'm the only one not at all interested in this then?  It is a fight for the casuals and thrill seekers but has no bearing upon the sport of boxing.  Granted, it will generate obscene amounts of money and if that is the yardstick, then it is a success indeed.  For my own part, I'm relieved to say that I shall be dabbling my tootsies in the Indian Ocean that day, whilst sipping the dearest cocktail on the menu.  Nothing will be further from my mind than this stale heap of crap.   ;)

Its an exciting fight, neither are at their peak but they are still fighting at a high level and arguably two of the best fighters in the world.

I've said all along that Mayweather wins and i'm not changing my mind now. Mayweather will give  Pacquiao nighmares with his Jab alone, much like Moralez did.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 21, 2015, 12:49:27 PM
There is certainly a case for the fact that because both have faded a touch, that this will result in less running and an actual fight.



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on February 21, 2015, 01:12:41 PM
I think Floyd will fight similar to the Cotto fight he knows how bad the fans have wanted this so he might try and stand his ground but if Manny tags him early he might move a bit and adapt his tactics.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on February 21, 2015, 02:08:20 PM
Like others have said, should have happened 5 years ago but still hard not to get excited about it.

I'm sure Sky will want to piece of the pie in terms of PPV and if they do get it it'll prob mean one less PPV show from Matchroom which can only be a good thing for fans although sure Hearn will be gutted!



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Every Cloud on February 21, 2015, 02:42:44 PM
I wish people all the best in trying to get a ticket for this almost impossible


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 21, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
I wish people all the best in trying to get a ticket for this almost impossible

3 of my mates have already booked in at the MGM a few months ago one of my mates as said today on FB that if you do over a minimum spend in a nightclub they will gift him a ticket for the fight as he got one for Pacquaio - Hatton that way does anyone know if this is true and how much are you likely to spend before you get one if they have them of course.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Forest on February 21, 2015, 03:02:52 PM
Can't see anything other than a Mayweather win, which will be rubbish.

Want Manny to win - nice humble bloke over the horseshit of Mayweather. Be nice that. Not gonna happen, though - think Floyd takes him in pretty much exactly the same way Marquez did last time out.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on February 21, 2015, 03:12:40 PM
3 of my mates have already booked in at the MGM a few months ago one of my mates as said today on FB that if you do over a minimum spend in a nightclub they will gift him a ticket for the fight as he got one for Pacquaio - Hatton that way does anyone know if this is true and how much are you likely to spend before you get one if they have them of course.

Probley but the minimum spend will be $20k for 3 tickets IMO.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 21, 2015, 03:16:14 PM
Probley but the minimum spend will be $20k for 3 tickets IMO.

He ain't short of a few quid but that is way past his limit. There again he is a con man if there was anyone who would sneek in and probably end up doing the ring walk with one of the fighters its him.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 21, 2015, 03:24:15 PM
I wonder if BT sport spot an opportunity here..


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tuco on February 21, 2015, 03:54:48 PM
Crazy prices.......They should have had this one in a stadium. Bigger event more revenue and cheaper seats for people that cant afford the ridiculous prices.

I hope to sod this is a good fight. All hinges on how Mayweather engages. Does he play safe and box or does he stand infront of Manny?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Heathen on February 21, 2015, 03:55:50 PM
I wonder if BT sport spot an opportunity here..

Oh, I really hope so!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on February 21, 2015, 03:56:18 PM
Apparently no 24/7 or all access. Instead each network will do 1hr specials

I can't see this being on anything other than SBO in the uk.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 21, 2015, 04:05:57 PM
Apparently no 24/7 or all access. Instead each network will do 1hr specials

I can't see this being on anything other than SBO in the uk.

If Hearn does a show on 2/5 expect them tie in a show and the Vegas event as part of a PPV. I am hopeful its on BN they need these big events to keep going with their subscriptions and moving forward. They must have a good relationship with TR and Mayweather because they have shown all there shows for the past 18 months. The money involved though will see everyone pitching for it just hope it isn't primetime.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on February 21, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
Not sure Matchroom will have a show on that date as they've already announced a show for following Sat night.

It would be an good idea for a card to be on in UK, even on normal Sky Sports but guess things won't tie up in terms of what fighters are already scheduled to fight over next few months.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 21, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
If it's sky the PPV will be over 40 quid


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 21, 2015, 04:40:19 PM
RICKY HATTON BREAKS DOWN FLOYD MAYWEATHER v MANNY PACQUIAO (MAY 2) & DEFENDS AMIR KHAN - INTERVIEW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpRy1a36K7A#ws)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Kevan2 on February 21, 2015, 04:59:35 PM
Free download next day for me!!  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: stevenmason on February 21, 2015, 07:07:16 PM
I think SKY have got a nerve if they charge PPV for this. Mayweather is known to the Hatton fans but neither boxer is truly relevant in this country. Tyson vs Holyfield was PPV here but Tyson is a global phenomenon. Neither Manny or Floyd are. I hope it ends up on Boxnation. That is rightfully the place for it to be.

Btw, Floyd probably wins a shut out with the crowd booing his lack of performance which as has happened several times before.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Every Cloud on February 21, 2015, 09:32:33 PM
Rafael saying a good chance no general public ticket sales for this. Doing it for the fans  ;)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 21, 2015, 09:33:10 PM
Dan Rafael has tweeted that it is unlikely any seats go on public sale


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on February 21, 2015, 09:38:54 PM
Shocker  :o


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 21, 2015, 10:22:33 PM
If it's sky the PPV will be over 40 quid

Why ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 21, 2015, 10:27:55 PM
Why ?

Because they will take advantage of how big the event is


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 21, 2015, 10:31:04 PM
Because they will take advantage of how big the event is

They won't Sky know they would rather have 1 million buys at £20 than start taking the piss. They price all WWE PPV the same whether its Wrestlemania or a inferior one.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on February 21, 2015, 10:38:34 PM
I'm actually rather disappointed that this fight has been made at this point...I have very little interest in watching two guys fight who will have a higher combined age (36 + 38) than Tyson and Lewis had (36 + 37) when they eventually got it on...it's disgusting that they think they can mug us off with stuff like this...we all know they should have fought around 2009 - 2010.

Stylistically, I would have much rather seen Manny vs Amir this summer at Wembley...and what an awesome event that would have been...

It would have also been interesting to see Mayweather vs Cotto rematch at 160 to see if Floyd could add the middleweight crown to his resume...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 22, 2015, 10:13:34 AM
Does anyone know if any of the travel companies still do the flight/hotel packages with a ticket?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on February 22, 2015, 10:23:47 AM
Dan Rafael has tweeted that it is unlikely any seats go on public sale

Which makes him a good deal more honest than Ray Hatton!   ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: essemk on February 22, 2015, 11:17:59 AM
Which makes him a good deal more honest than Ray Hatton!   ;D
Don't look like we even get a ballot then eh Bonters. Eight of us booked last July , always believing there would be a big fight on Cinco de mayo. Looks like we will be in the Ballrooms watching on a big screen now. Still our package was only £ 940 including direct flight and 7 nights Tropicana.  Wish you were coming though Bonters, you are still a legend.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 22, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
Which makes him a good deal more honest than Ray Hatton!   ;D

 ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on February 22, 2015, 11:44:14 AM
Dan Rafael has tweeted that it is unlikely any seats go on public sale

That's disgusting if true.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on February 22, 2015, 02:38:37 PM
It's worse for Rafael if his nickname really is true.

"Two Seats"


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 22, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
I think people are over valuing the fight.

Strip everything away, all the hype and millions -  it's not going to be FOTY is it ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on February 22, 2015, 08:56:21 PM
I think people are over valuing the fight.

Strip everything away, all the hype and millions -  it's not going to be FOTY is it ?

Couldn't agree more Red...at this point in their careers, this fight is only going to end up as the biggest anti-climax of all time


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on February 22, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
That's a disgrace if true especially how much hotels are charging since the fight was announced.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Hotdog on February 22, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Couldn't agree more Red...at this point in their careers, this fight is only going to end up as the biggest anti-climax of all time
When has Floyd ever been in a FOTY?

I agree that the fight should of been in 2009/2010 as both would of been at their best.  However they're still the top 2 P4P in boxing and still the 2 biggest draws.

You said earlier you'd rather see Khan v Manny.  Khan would be KO'd within 2 rounds vs Manny.  I'd give Khan a better shot vs Floyd, he might even win the first few rounds but eventually Floyd would take over and probably KO him too.   



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Formerly Known as Hitman999 on February 23, 2015, 08:58:54 AM
In speaking to Vip services at some of the hotels they have said theres a chance some MLIFE members may not even get tickets.

last year I was only Mlife gold and was allowed up to 12 tickets for Maidana fights.  Now I'm up to Mlife platinum I've been told most likely all tickets going to comp guests

Ive stayed in MGM properties for the last 8 years accruing loyalty points just so I can have a slightly better chance to go to the big fights with no(less) grief for tickets...

If I can't get a ticket then this will be my last trip staying in an MGM property...  The wife wants a change but I've said no for years because of the boxing.  Its a shocker if genuine fans can't get in to view the spectacle



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 23, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
That's a disgrace if true especially how much hotels are charging since the fight was announced.

Are you surprised ?amy big event hotels and travel companies ramp up the prices


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 23, 2015, 09:07:10 AM
In speaking to Vip services at some of the hotels they have said theres a chance some MLIFE members may not even get tickets.

last year I was only Mlife gold and was allowed up to 12 tickets for Maidana fights.  Now I'm up to Mlife platinum I've been told most likely all tickets going to comp guests

Ive stayed in MGM properties for the last 8 years accruing loyalty points just so I can have a slightly better chance to go to the big fights with no(less) grief for tickets...

If I can't get a ticket then this will be my last trip staying in an MGM property...  The wife wants a change but I've said no for years because of the boxing.  Its a shocker if genuine fans can't get in to view the spectacle



How many times a year do you go to Vegas ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on February 23, 2015, 10:09:56 AM
When has Floyd ever been in a FOTY?

I agree that the fight should of been in 2009/2010 as both would of been at their best.  However they're still the top 2 P4P in boxing and still the 2 biggest draws.

You said earlier you'd rather see Khan v Manny.  Khan would be KO'd within 2 rounds vs Manny.  I'd give Khan a better shot vs Floyd, he might even win the first few rounds but eventually Floyd would take over and probably KO him too.   



I understand your point about them both still being top two P4P but they're setting a terrible example in terms of the timing of this superfight...I don't think it's too much to ask that the best fighters of their generation should have fought when they were in their prime rather than when they're both pushing 40; if this is the way boxing is going to go then I will continue to lose interest; I can genuinely say that I am not excited about this fight. All respect to you if you are mate, but be honest, does your level of excitement about this fight match how you felt about it around 2009/2010?

With respect to Khan Vs Manny, who cares if it only lasts a couple of rounds? Hagler - Hearns only lasted three and that was argualy the most exciting fight of all time...Stylistically, Manny vs Khan is guaranteed to be a barnstomer regardless of how long it lasts...

I do agree with you that Khan would have a better shot vs Floyd as Floyd doesn't like to punch with his opponent, which is the best way to beat Khan (i.e. Prescott, Garcia) so the speed and volume of Khan's punches would be a problem for Mayweather before he eventually puts him into "the matrix" as he does with every other opponent...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 23, 2015, 10:44:08 AM
I creamed my pants when Hatton vs Mayweather was made, it was like Xmas day every day leading up to it.

Not feeling any vibes for this one, im sure it will be a exciting 48 hours beforehand - but seriously, i cant think of poorer value for money than this trip.

If you are finacially stable and have the money, then even then i'd be more tempted to withdraw £12,000 out the bank and put it on the coffee table when the first bell rings, then count out a grand after each completed round.

By round 12, when the audience are probably boo'ing floyd's running to protect his lead, you will be £12,000 better off - and then after the interviews you can climb into bed without the hangover or transatlantic slog back to London, devastated you spent a fortune watching a mediocre fight.






Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 23, 2015, 11:16:21 AM
We booked from Sunday - Sunday last June and paid £1,000 each for 7 nights in the Bellagio. I was actually hoping it would be Khan v Mayweather at the time.

I'm really looking forward to the atmosphere round Vegas in the build up to this fight. The fight itself I have resigned myself to the fact we are not going to get a ticket and to be honest I am not that bothered I can't. I've told the missus we may go to a CCTV location to watch but not sure how interested I am in that. I think the build up will be better than the fight itself



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 23, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
I creamed my pants when Hatton vs Mayweather was made, it was like Xmas day every day leading up to it.

Not feeling any vibes for this one, im sure it will be a exciting 48 hours beforehand - but seriously, i cant think of poorer value for money than this trip.

If you are finacially stable and have the money, then even then i'd be more tempted to withdraw £12,000 out the bank and put it on the coffee table when the first bell rings, then count out a grand after each completed round.

By round 12, when the audience are probably boo'ing floyd's running to protect his lead, you will be £12,000 better off - and then after the interviews you can climb into bed without the hangover or transatlantic slog back to London, devastated you spent a fortune watching a mediocre fight.


I have been tempted over the years to go to Vegas but for the same amount of money I'd spend I could take the Family to Greece for 2 weeks and have a few weekend breaks as well. I am not particulary a good traveller anything more than 5 hours on a plane and it makes me ill.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on February 23, 2015, 11:50:21 AM
I creamed my pants when Hatton vs Mayweather was made, it was like Xmas day every day leading up to it.

Not feeling any vibes for this one, im sure it will be a exciting 48 hours beforehand - but seriously, i cant think of poorer value for money than this trip.

If you are finacially stable and have the money, then even then i'd be more tempted to withdraw £12,000 out the bank and put it on the coffee table when the first bell rings, then count out a grand after each completed round.

By round 12, when the audience are probably boo'ing floyd's running to protect his lead, you will be £12,000 better off - and then after the interviews you can climb into bed without the hangover or transatlantic slog back to London, devastated you spent a fortune watching a mediocre fight.

AND, can you imagine how many pages this thread would be at by now if it were actually a superfight, the likes of Hatton days?  I know I'm not part of the euphoria but I really do think a lot of folk are manufacturing/forcing it.  The fight is stale, very very stale indeed.  It will be more a matter of ego to be there and not feel 'left out'.  The fight itself will be only a tiny part of the 'scene'   ;)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on February 23, 2015, 11:55:58 AM
In speaking to Vip services at some of the hotels they have said theres a chance some MLIFE members may not even get tickets.

last year I was only Mlife gold and was allowed up to 12 tickets for Maidana fights.  Now I'm up to Mlife platinum I've been told most likely all tickets going to comp guests

Ive stayed in MGM properties for the last 8 years accruing loyalty points just so I can have a slightly better chance to go to the big fights with no(less) grief for tickets...

If I can't get a ticket then this will be my last trip staying in an MGM property...  The wife wants a change but I've said no for years because of the boxing.  Its a shocker if genuine fans can't get in to view the spectacle



Rumours of charging for the weigh in now also.

Sadly there is a lot to dislike about this fight already.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on February 23, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Rumours of charging for the weigh in now also.

Sadly there is a lot to dislike about this fight already.

Where about you hearing that? Cant say I aint surprised, I wont surprised when the entire MGM Grand Arena is opened up for the weigh in with the amount of people that will want to be there to witness it and know fine well they will charge an entry fee.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 23, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
Rumours of charging for the weigh in now also.

Sadly there is a lot to dislike about this fight already.

We're you hear that?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on February 23, 2015, 01:46:52 PM
3 days in to the fight being made... and i'm bored.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Formerly Known as Hitman999 on February 23, 2015, 03:11:27 PM
How many times a year do you go to Vegas ?

I've been going twice a year since 2008

Just off the phone from mirage again and they have said they won't be preselling anything it's defo comps only and not sure any will be publicly sold.  The criteria is massively high and it's all based on gambling (so spending $8000 minimum a year on hotels, shows and restaurants for 7 years doesn't mean scoot, I've logged hundreds of poker hours but these are not subject to point play)






Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 23, 2015, 03:20:30 PM
I've been going twice a year since 2008

Just off the phone from mirage again and they have said they won't be preselling anything it's defo comps only and not sure any will be publicly sold.  The criteria is massively high and it's all based on gambling (so spending $8000 minimum a year on hotels, shows and restaurants for 7 years doesn't mean scoot, I've logged hundreds of poker hours but these are not subject to point play)



Welcome to capitalism !

Being honest, i'd be pissed too.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on February 23, 2015, 03:47:52 PM
I know this question is going to get asked alot over the next few months but it looks more than likely tickets aint going to be available to the general public, so that leaves those who want to go to go the option of the black market?

I see sites like Razorgator, vivid seats and ticket network have tickets for sale already, so who is actuallys selling these tickets if none are going to be on general sale? Also the cheapest I have found so far is $3900 (£2500ish), can anyone give me info if they have used these sites before? and if so how did you collect your tickets in Vegas?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 23, 2015, 04:11:31 PM
I know this question is going to get asked alot over the next few months but it looks more than likely tickets aint going to be available to the general public, so that leaves those who want to go to go the option of the black market?

I see sites like Razorgator, vivid seats and ticket network have tickets for sale already, so who is actuallys selling these tickets if none are going to be on general sale? Also the cheapest I have found so far is $3900 (£2500ish), can anyone give me info if they have used these sites before? and if so how did you collect your tickets in Vegas?

I got tickets for Cotto v Mayweather off Razorgate I think. Paid face value about 3 weeks before the fight and got them delivered to my hotel. They were waiting for me on arrival.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Formerly Known as Hitman999 on February 23, 2015, 04:13:38 PM
$200 for close circuit

Re: resale sites my only advice would be use credit card and sites with 100% guarantee such as stub hub


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on February 23, 2015, 04:32:01 PM
I got tickets for Cotto v Mayweather off Razorgate I think. Paid face value about 3 weeks before the fight and got them delivered to my hotel. They were waiting for me on arrival.

Cheers mate. It does give the option of collection in Vegas so think I might go this route if theres going to be no general sale. I will defo be using a credit card to purchase and Razorgator is a 100% legit site.

I know many will bulk at the ticket prices and that the fight is 5 years past its best but its still an event I hope to say in later life I was at.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 23, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
Cheers mate. It does give the option of collection in Vegas so think I might go this route if theres going to be no general sale. I will defo be using a credit card to purchase and Razorgator is a 100% legit site.

I know many will bulk at the ticket prices and that the fight is 5 years past its best but its still an event I hope to say in later life I was at.
The tickets we got for that were the $300 dollar tickets. They were sold out as soon as they went on sale on ticketmaster. They were $750 on tm when that happened but we waited and waited and eventually got face value. I would wait if I were you

$200 for close circuit

Re: resale sites my only advice would be use credit card and sites with 100% guarantee such as stub hub
If that's the case I'm going to watch Britney Spears at Planet Hollywood that night instead


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 23, 2015, 04:54:43 PM
The tickets we got for that were the $300 dollar tickets. They were sold out as soon as they went on sale on ticketmaster. They were $750 on tm when that happened but we waited and waited and eventually got face value. I would wait if I were you
If that's the case I'm going to watch Britney Spears at Planet Hollywood that night instead

that advice might work with other fights, but i think with this your really not going to see the tickets go down ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on February 23, 2015, 05:11:51 PM
that advice might work with other fights, but i think with this your really not going to see the tickets go down ...

Yeah I have to agree, I cannot see ticket prices dropping much. These prices are Super Bowl prices and they rarely drop under $2000-$3000 for a nose bleed seat, as much as a nosebleed seat in the MGM is going to cost, you still get a good view none the less.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 23, 2015, 05:31:42 PM
Yeah I have to agree, I cannot see ticket prices dropping much. These prices are Super Bowl prices and they rarely drop under $2000-$3000 for a nose bleed seat, as much as a nosebleed seat in the MGM is going to cost, you still get a good view none the less.

aye mate i just wouldent pay that myself, memories or no memories mate. if you have deep enough pockets, go on mate !  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 23, 2015, 06:45:01 PM
I've never been to vegas I'd love to go to vegas on a big fight weekend but I'll watch this one in the house I'm genuinely excited for the fight however I know it won't be a classic and can understand others being down on the fight and the weekend.



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DLINKLA on February 23, 2015, 08:04:18 PM
I know this question is going to get asked alot over the next few months but it looks more than likely tickets aint going to be available to the general public, so that leaves those who want to go to go the option of the black market?

I see sites like Razorgator, vivid seats and ticket network have tickets for sale already, so who is actuallys selling these tickets if none are going to be on general sale? Also the cheapest I have found so far is $3900 (£2500ish), can anyone give me info if they have used these sites before? and if so how did you collect your tickets in Vegas?



I used razor gator for Hatton v Mayweather they either posted them to the UK via FedEx or I collected at the MGM Grand.  (Can't remember which fight was which)



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on February 23, 2015, 08:13:10 PM

I used razor gator for Hatton v Mayweather they either posted them to the UK via FedEx or I collected at the MGM Grand.  (Can't remember which fight was which)



Thanks for that mate! Going to wait to see if there is an actual general sale but if not least I know the genuine sites to go to if need be!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 23, 2015, 08:48:02 PM
You should check what the policy is should the fight get cancelled aswell.

Yourboxingtravel.com emailed me with an "update" today and basically said 4 night at the Bellagio WITHOUT ticket 5 grand. They can f*ck right off  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: IrishPaddy on February 23, 2015, 08:54:21 PM
You should check what the policy is should the fight get cancelled aswell.

Yourboxingtravel.com emailed me with an "update" today and basically said 4 night at the Bellagio WITHOUT ticket 5 grand. They can f*ck right off  ;D

I got the same email. It's BA flights from London, 4 nights at Bellagio, and the cheapest ticket ($1000 dollar, likely to be row Z) for 5k.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on February 23, 2015, 09:26:36 PM
I don't think much of what anyone has done for previous fights will count for much for this fight sadly. I used razorgator like others for Ricky vs floyd and for tout standards got a good deal. I don't see any good deals being had for this fight though. You either pay through the nose or you don't go I think is the rule pretty much.


Spencer fearon is doing a three night package with a ticket, I'm sure it was around 2,500 but could be wrong. If that price I've said is right, I think that's likely to be the cheapest option.

It's sickening that no general sale will be done, should be illegal that.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Hotdog on February 23, 2015, 11:12:26 PM
I don't think much of what anyone has done for previous fights will count for much for this fight sadly. I used razorgator like others for Ricky vs floyd and for tout standards got a good deal. I don't see any good deals being had for this fight though. You either pay through the nose or you don't go I think is the rule pretty much.


Spencer fearon is doing a three night package with a ticket, I'm sure it was around 2,500 but could be wrong. If that price I've said is right, I think that's likely to be the cheapest option.

It's sickening that no general sale will be done, should be illegal that.
Spencer's deal was the your boxing travel deal.  They're charging £5000. That's for flights, Bellagio and a ticket. However 4 nights at the Bellagio and flights you can get for about £1500. So he is charging £3500 $5300 for a ticket. Which is likely to be at the back.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Hotdog on February 23, 2015, 11:26:11 PM
I don't think much of what anyone has done for previous fights will count for much for this fight sadly. I used razorgator like others for Ricky vs floyd and for tout standards got a good deal. I don't see any good deals being had for this fight though. You either pay through the nose or you don't go I think is the rule pretty much.


Spencer fearon is doing a three night package with a ticket, I'm sure it was around 2,500 but could be wrong. If that price I've said is right, I think that's likely to be the cheapest option.

It's sickening that no general sale will be done, should be illegal that.
Spencer's deal was the your boxing travel deal.  They're charging £5000. That's for flights, Bellagio and a ticket. However 4 nights at the Bellagio and flights you can get for about £1500. So he is charging £3500 $5300 for a ticket. Which is likely to be at the back.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on February 24, 2015, 01:03:43 PM
Buncey's Boxing Podcast

The number of hours, days, weeks, months and years spent between the first mention of the Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao fight, and the published contract, will forever be a true mystery.

Some claim the bout was first mooted in 2007, the same night that a battered Ricky Hatton was led from the ring in tears after Mayweather's fists ruined him. It was not that night because at the time 17 pounds separated Mayweather and Pacquiao and there were other fights for Mayweather - fights he chose to ignore.

Others claim it was 2008, a year that Mayweather took off and wandered deep into the neon of the Las Vegas party scene in the first of many mini-sabbaticals from the boxing business. In 2008 Manny gained the weight, closed the distance down and set himself on a destructive collision course with Floyd.

It was in 2008 that Pacquiao brutally ended the boxing career of Oscar De La Hoya, who was left looking like a ghoul in his own corner after eight horrible, one-sided and sickening rounds.
A year earlier Oscar had met Floyd, it was a tight fight, broke financial records and after twelve rounds little Floyd, as he was simply known then, won a hugely disputed split decision.

The pair were finally at the same weight but Floyd was retired and Manny looked untouchable.
Manny then knocked out Hatton in the second round and right then, at that point in May 2009, is when the fight should have been announced. Manny had gained the weight and hunted down and destroyed the two men that had pushed Mayweather the hardest. It was, let's not hide behind the hype, a wasted moment.

Since that lost opportunity to deliver the fight, the pair of sluggers had been united in their failure to agree a fight until last week's euphoric announcement.

Pacquiao has fought ten times since beating Hatton. He has lost once on points and was knocked out by a man called Juan Manuel Marquez, a man he had previously beaten twice.

It was in September 2009 that Floyd dusted off his dancing shoes and ended his exile to beat Marquez on points and beat him by a country mile. Marquez, however, was made to fight ten pounds above his previous highest weight and was never in the fight. Marquez would controversially get a lot bigger and beat Pacquiao in 2012.

Floyd was back and about six weeks later, in November 2009, Pacquiao probably looked at his most destructive when he stopped Miguel Cotto in round 12 after winning every round up until that point.

Make no mistake, at that point Manny was the world's finest fighter and had Mayweather been in the ring that night he would have lost. "It would have been easy for Manny," Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's coach, told me in 2011.

However, that November night in 2009, at the MGM in Las Vegas, was the optimum moment for the fight between Manny and Floyd. We lost the fight that glorious winter and were helpless as we saw it sail away as the pair struggled with defeats, accusations of drug abuse, jail terms and greed on a scale never before witnessed in a business dominated by those addicted to their swollen cash stash.

It's on now and it will be a fabulous reminder of what we could have had so many, many years ago.

Read more at http://www.spam.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/406211.html#g4rVFT6DbcHgeMuQ.99 (http://www.spam.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/406211.html#g4rVFT6DbcHgeMuQ.99)

Not a bad assessment from Buncey there?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: TC on February 24, 2015, 01:15:54 PM
Not bad, but he just tosses in that Manny beat JMM twice, failing to note that Marquez was robbed on both occasions.

He's definitely right that the fight should have been made in 2009. But better late than never anyway.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on February 24, 2015, 01:58:04 PM

Not a bad assessment from Buncey there?

plenty of digs aimed towards Mayweather. He fails to add that the 'ghoul' looking oscar was also weigh drained, mayweather defeated cotto at his own weight and that hatton for shot for the pacquiao fight.

point is, both fighters (or fighters teams) are guilty of this fight only just taking place so can we not just get on with it and enjoy what we've all been crying out for for so many years?

I do agree the fight should have happened after Pac vs Cotto


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on February 24, 2015, 02:14:09 PM
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-warns-no-comps-mayweather-pacquiao-seats--87772 (http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-warns-no-comps-mayweather-pacquiao-seats--87772)

Arum Warns: No Comps For Mayweather-Pacquiao Seats
Posted by: Edward Chaykovsky on 2/24/2015 .

 By Edward Chaykovsky

Celebrities beware, there won't be any comps on May 2nd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas - when Floyd Mayweather Jr. faces Manny Pacquiao in a super-fight showdown. Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, is getting flooded with requests for tickets from a who's who list of celebrities.

Arum says even the MGM Grand is keeping things very, very tight with who gets complimentary tickets. The venue is only selecting the biggest of the high rollers.

"Nobody is going to get these tickets without paying for them. The type of calls I'm getting, it's unbelievable. I could spend the rest of the day on the phone and sell out the entire place. The biggest block [of tickets] is with MGM. When I get a call from a celebrity, or I assume when Mayweather gets a call from a celebrity, we immediately send them to MGM and tell them to fill the order," Arum told spam 1100 Radio.

"Because of the price of the tickets, MGM, for example, will only give ringside tickets to its customers who have a $250,000 line of credit."


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 24, 2015, 03:24:23 PM
We're doing it for the fans - they both say. But no fan is able to buy a ticket  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: maguire on February 24, 2015, 03:49:22 PM
Come to think of it, a lot of people is saying Arum is nonsense for asking to have the event in cowboys stadium for the casual fans.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 24, 2015, 04:25:18 PM
Come to think of it, a lot of people is saying Arum is nonsense for asking to have the event in cowboys stadium for the casual fans.

Dallas only had the allure to it when huge amounts of money had just been poured into the stadium by Jerry Jones. It was unique in how expensive it was at that time, but now it is just a stadium. I have only been to Texas twice, but it would be a chore to go back. Would have beena shame to set such a monumental event in the middle of Dallas.

Arum could could give two brown, shrively turds about the fans. He would just have more to gain if Jones was able to host the fight. With any fight, the fans find ways to watch it at home and the venue cashes in on a select demographic. I don't think the general public is being robbed by the MGM. Now the PPV on the other hand ....


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: celticbhoy on February 24, 2015, 05:18:38 PM
I've resigned to the fact that I won't get a ticket below $3000, with CLosed Circuit tv in the casinos rumoured to be anywhere between $200-$250 what are the chances of some boozer showing the fight off the strip. Surely to God there has to be some shithole showing it!!!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on February 24, 2015, 11:05:17 PM
Here are my current plans for this "superfight"...


1. Get a good night's sleep on May 2nd
2. Wake up on May 3rd
3. Log onto this forum and listen to the lad's views on the fight
4. Decide whether it's worth "acquiring" a copy of the fight to watch


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: great_boxer on February 25, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
Here are my current plans for this "superfight"...


1. Get a good night's sleep on May 2nd
2. Wake up on May 3rd
3. Log onto this forum and listen to the lad's views on the fight
4. Decide whether it's worth "acquiring" a copy of the fight to watch

You are not interested in seeing the 2 best fighters in this generation fight ?what the heck is wrong with you?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on February 25, 2015, 05:22:28 PM
I might join the cool club and state no interest in the most talked about fight in many years.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: willlywalllly on February 25, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
we all know the fight is five years too late and will probably be a dull 12 rounder, with floyds arm raised at the end in a unanimous points victory... but its still significant, lets not be snobby about it, it could really open things up going forward. and it must have pissed khan off no end which always worth a tap of acknowledgemnt.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Gaz on February 25, 2015, 06:46:12 PM
I really find it absurd that people can still claim ambivalence to this fight. Even Bonters who said this is quite possibly the worst fight that can be made??? WTF is that all about?

I fully appreciate the notion that the fight should have happened years ago, and maybe both of them have slipped a little beyond their peaks in the last couple of years. But over the hill? Absolutely not. Pacquiao has rebounded very well from the losses he suffered and Mayweather, well he's still undefeated and not that long ago made his most significant opponent in years (Alvarez) look useless for 12 rounds, These two are still highly skilled, terrifically athletic specimens, and there is still a genuine significance to the boxing landscape with this event. I just hope that the fight is treated as such by these two, and not just an expensive exhibition.

If the fight itself is to be exciting then it's purely down to Pacquiao to bring it, and force Mayweather to fight at Pacman's pace. If Mayweather can limit Pacquiao's punch output like he has done in the past with so many offensive fighters, then we could be looking at a routine Mayweather UD. I don't discount that possibility at all, but it's a fight that has to be watched. I find it difficult to believe that the anticipation of all boxing fans come fight week won't be sky high.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: 7777 on February 25, 2015, 08:50:57 PM
we all know the fight is five years too late and will probably be a dull 12 rounder, with floyds arm raised at the end in a unanimous points victory... but its still significant, lets not be snobby about it, it could really open things up going forward. and it must have pissed khan off no end which always worth a tap of acknowledgemnt.

The same Khan that has gone up to 147 and schooled two legit 147'ers in Collazo and Alexander??

Give the lad a break FFS


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on February 25, 2015, 09:19:58 PM
You are not interested in seeing the 2 best fighters in this generation fight ?what the heck is wrong with you?

The fight is WAY past it's sell by date IMO that's why...don't really have that much interest now that they are both coming to the end of their careers.

I think a lot of people have lost interest to be honest...for example, this thread would be up to about page 30-40 by now if we were back in 2009/2010 and the fight was announced....

I don't think I will bother commenting on this fight ever again as I'm getting more and more bored of it as each day passes...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: willlywalllly on February 25, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
The same Khan that has gone up to 147 and schooled two legit 147'ers in Collazo and Alexander??

Give the lad a break FFS

i just dont like the guy... the only thing more drawn out than the may/pac negotiations is khan's sense of entitlement. let him either go swivel and sulk, or fight brook. either way he needs to realise he's not really "king" khan, he's just waiting in line like everybody else.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: 7777 on February 25, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
i just dont like the guy... the only thing more drawn out than the may/pac negotiations is khan's sense of entitlement. let him either go swivel and sulk, or fight brook. either way he needs to realise he's not really "king" khan, he's just waiting in line like everybody else.

He is King Khan though regarless of your opinion of him! Don't be a hater  ;)

I think the next biggest fight for Mayweather of Pacquiao is Khan


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 25, 2015, 09:53:52 PM
Flights booked ,just on the look for a hotel.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on February 25, 2015, 11:30:39 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2966920/Floyd-Mayweather-offers-Amir-Khan-ticket-fight-Manny-Pacquiao.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2966920/Floyd-Mayweather-offers-Amir-Khan-ticket-fight-Manny-Pacquiao.html)

Floyd Mayweather has hit back at Amir Khan after he claimed that the American's hotly anticipated fight with Manny Pacquiao could turn out to be 'boring' and 'dull'.

Khan has criticised Mayweather's decision to finally fight Pacquiao instead of taking him on, describing the 38-year-old's choice as 'the easy route'.

He also took aim at the timing of the fight, stating that it should have when both boxers were in top condition and not getting towards the end of their careers.

Khan told The Sun: 'The thing is when they were both at their peak - which was six years ago - this fight was talked about then and it should have happened then.

'That's when it would have been a great fight because they were both explosive. They were both at their peak and the fight would have been massive. They both seemed unbeatable back then.

'Six years later Manny Pacquiao has had two defeats and been knocked out. Mayweather has had some good fights but he is getting old and he's showing signs of ageing now. He is getting caught a lot more frequently.

'For me, this fight isn't going to be as explosive or as good as it would have been five or six years ago. Who knows, styles make fights.

'They're both very experienced but it could turn out to be a boring fight because there is just so much expectation on it.'

But Mayweather has disputed Khan's claims, instead promising that the Las Vegas bout on May 2 will live up to the hype.

'I am touched that Amir is concerned about the fight, and that it might be boring for the fans,' said Mayweather.

'He doesn't need to worry, the fact this has taken so long to happen only makes the anticipation and build up of the fight that much greater.

'I can even get him a ticket if he wants - so he can see what the biggest fight in the history of boxing looks like - and to appease any fears he might have about a boring fight.'

Khan claims he was close to agreeing fights with both Mayweather and Pacquiao, but the unbeaten American believes the boxing world was not interested in seeing himself or Pacquiao take on the Bolton-born fighter.


'Of course he wanted to fight me, of course he wanted to fight Manny, I get that, I really do,' added Mayweather.

'The reality is that this is only fight the public were demanding and we had no choice but to give it to them.

'The world was not calling for Mayweather vs Khan or Pacquiao vs Khan. He knows that, he is a smart kid. He knows this fight had to happen.

'He (Amir) is a good fighter, I've got a lot of time for what he does in the ring. He is going to get big fights I am sure of that, but nothing or nobody was going to stand in the way of this fight - we are going to make history.

Floyd trolling Amir a little.  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 26, 2015, 12:08:51 AM
All Khan can do is keep on winning and beating top ranked fighters. I don't think a win over Brook would do him any favours on the route to Mayweather but a win over Thurman, Bradley or Guerrero would when its the American TV audience and TV executives that have the demand for Mayweather's opponents.
You got to feel for Brook and Khan both are the top of their game ranked 2 and 3 by Ring both would love to face Mayweather but with one fight left with Showtime and possible retirement neither are likely to get the gig unless there is huge demand for it.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: brocktonbomber on February 26, 2015, 01:03:30 AM
If the general consensus is that mayweather beats the other 147lb fighters, and that manny beats all the other 147lb fighters (with the possible exception bring marquez). Why would this fight not be relevant today ??

You either want to know who the best 147lb fighter is today or you dont ? The fight not happening 5 years ago shouldn't make too much of a difference, unless people want manny to avenge his knockout loss to make it relevant.

I dont get the negativity.

Which other 147lb superfight is there ?
Pretty much how I feel. People whine about them being 'past their prime' but they are still the two best in the division. In addition, one is the currently the best in the sport and the other somewhere in the top four. I'll grant you, it is subjective comparing boxers across divisions.

So, the PPV will cost $100 here, say $110 after taxes/fees ... more whining ... I'll get together with four or five friends and it'll be around $20 apiece. I know people who pay $18 to go to a movie here or $100 for a ticket to Disney World for the day. I'm a realist. I know this fight could very well end up being about as exciting Mayweather-DLH was. But as was the case then, I'm interested to see how it all turns out.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on February 26, 2015, 08:16:39 AM
I really find it absurd that people can still claim ambivalence to this fight. Even Bonters who said this is quite possibly the worst fight that can be made??? WTF is that all about?


To be fair, I have acknowledged that I'm probably pretty much on my own with this one.  I haven't watched a Pacquiao or Mayweather fight in years, ever since they failed to get it on in their prime.  Mayweather bores the ass off me actually, albeit I acknowledge his boxing skillset.  Way back in the heady Hatton days, this fight would have been a crescendo for me and I would probably have been there.  Now, I have zilch interest at all.  But that's just me.  I'm relieved actually, given that they are openly saying that you WILL get ripped off with silly price tickets or you will NOT be there.  Nobody gives a flying fook about loyal fans and their support.  This fight has only one purpose in the world  -  MONEY.  Pretty much like everything to do with the objectionable, wife-beating Mayweather.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: hoover on February 26, 2015, 12:41:15 PM
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2966920/Floyd-Mayweather-offers-Amir-Khan-ticket-fight-Manny-Pacquiao.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2966920/Floyd-Mayweather-offers-Amir-Khan-ticket-fight-Manny-Pacquiao.html[/url])

Floyd Mayweather has hit back at Amir Khan after he claimed that the American's hotly anticipated fight with Manny Pacquiao could turn out to be 'boring' and 'dull'.

Khan has criticised Mayweather's decision to finally fight Pacquiao instead of taking him on, describing the 38-year-old's choice as 'the easy route'.

He also took aim at the timing of the fight, stating that it should have when both boxers were in top condition and not getting towards the end of their careers.

Khan told The Sun: 'The thing is when they were both at their peak - which was six years ago - this fight was talked about then and it should have happened then.

'That's when it would have been a great fight because they were both explosive. They were both at their peak and the fight would have been massive. They both seemed unbeatable back then.

'Six years later Manny Pacquiao has had two defeats and been knocked out. Mayweather has had some good fights but he is getting old and he's showing signs of ageing now. He is getting caught a lot more frequently.

'For me, this fight isn't going to be as explosive or as good as it would have been five or six years ago. Who knows, styles make fights.

'They're both very experienced but it could turn out to be a boring fight because there is just so much expectation on it.'

But Mayweather has disputed Khan's claims, instead promising that the Las Vegas bout on May 2 will live up to the hype.

'I am touched that Amir is concerned about the fight, and that it might be boring for the fans,' said Mayweather.

'He doesn't need to worry, the fact this has taken so long to happen only makes the anticipation and build up of the fight that much greater.

'I can even get him a ticket if he wants - so he can see what the biggest fight in the history of boxing looks like - and to appease any fears he might have about a boring fight.'

Khan claims he was close to agreeing fights with both Mayweather and Pacquiao, but the unbeaten American believes the boxing world was not interested in seeing himself or Pacquiao take on the Bolton-born fighter.


'Of course he wanted to fight me, of course he wanted to fight Manny, I get that, I really do,' added Mayweather.

'The reality is that this is only fight the public were demanding and we had no choice but to give it to them.

'The world was not calling for Mayweather vs Khan or Pacquiao vs Khan. He knows that, he is a smart kid. He knows this fight had to happen.

'He (Amir) is a good fighter, I've got a lot of time for what he does in the ring. He is going to get big fights I am sure of that, but nothing or nobody was going to stand in the way of this fight - we are going to make history.

Floyd trolling Amir a little.  ;D


that is why Khan is a wanker


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 26, 2015, 01:01:15 PM
anyone here got any experience of the vegas hotels off the strip? any recommendations, with a view to easy access to the strip


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Hurricane on February 26, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
anyone here got any experience of the vegas hotels off the strip? any recommendations, with a view to easy access to the strip

I'd look to stay at the South end, especially with the fight being at the MGM, as the North tends to have the ropey places like Stratosphere and Circus Circus.  Depends on your budget really but my mate is over there for a wedding on fight weekend and hadn't booked before the fight was announced despite me warning him and the prices for Friday and Saturday night were extortionate.  I think Tropicana was £400 a night for those two which I'd say is a mid-range hotel.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: TC on February 26, 2015, 01:58:10 PM
I'd look to stay at the South end, especially with the fight being at the MGM, as the North tends to have the ropey places like Stratosphere and Circus Circus.  Depends on your budget really but my mate is over there for a wedding on fight weekend and hadn't booked before the fight was announced despite me warning him and the prices for Friday and Saturday night were extortionate.  I think Tropicana was £400 a night for those two which I'd say is a mid-range hotel.

If you're looking at £400 for the Tropicana then I'd sack off the strip and stay at one of the better Fremont St places personally. Prefer the atmosphere down there and cabs to the MGM and back won't be too expensive.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: TC on February 26, 2015, 02:02:44 PM
Just had a look at hotel prices for that week out of interest. F**king hell!!!!!!!!  :o


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Hurricane on February 26, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
If you're looking at £400 for the Tropicana then I'd sack off the strip and stay at one of the better Fremont St places personally. Prefer the atmosphere down there and cabs to the MGM and back won't be too expensive.

That's what I advised my mate, it was only that Alba specifically mentioned access to the strip but this is an option worth pointing out.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: IrishPaddy on February 26, 2015, 02:47:52 PM
anyone here got any experience of the vegas hotels off the strip? any recommendations, with a view to easy access to the strip

Anywhere on the Monorail. Westgate (Old LVH/Old Hilton) is 10 mins on Monorail to MGM. Booking.com still has it reasonable for the weekend. $500 for 4 nights Wed-Sun including all taxes/resort fees. Jump on it. Fully refundable/no advance purchase. Prices for other hotels will probably drop.





Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: dunk25 on February 26, 2015, 06:30:59 PM
Try the polo towers or there is a  Marriott just of the strip net to mgm signiture


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 26, 2015, 06:35:19 PM
Anywhere on the Monorail. Westgate (Old LVH/Old Hilton) is 10 mins on Monorail to MGM. Booking.com still has it reasonable for the weekend. $500 for 4 nights Wed-Sun including all taxes/resort fees. Jump on it. Fully refundable/no advance purchase. Prices for other hotels will probably drop.





aye i was thinking that, i am goinna try harrahs as can get that no too bad for 8 nights


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 26, 2015, 07:43:09 PM
actually just booked harrahs, no the b est but location wise does the job. stayed before

got eight nights for 730 with Travel republic which is plenty decent.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on February 26, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
The welters used to be the marquee division a few years ago, now its dog tired with little depth compared to when Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams were all much younger in 2008 etc.

Whether i stay up to watch it will be down to whether Sky & Jim Watt / Nick Halling host it.

If they do, it will be a HD download on the Sunday AM and will watch the American version.

I'd prefer a delay with the best commentary and a full english breakfast, than watch live with those muppets sending me into a seething 4am rage.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on February 26, 2015, 10:36:25 PM
The welters used to be the marquee division a few years ago, now its dog tired with little depth compared to when Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams were all much younger in 2008 etc.

Whether i stay up to watch it will be down to whether Sky & Jim Watt / Nick Halling host it.

If they do, it will be a HD download on the Sunday AM and will watch the American version.

I'd prefer a delay with the best commentary and a full english breakfast, than watch live with those muppets sending me into a seething 4am rage.

I watched the Oscar - Mayorga fight last night TWICE. I watched it when it was commentated on Sky by Watt and Darke and then watched it on HBO and how both saw the fight is completely different. Jim Lampley, Lederman and I think it was RJJ was all fair even though Oscar was bossing the fight but Mayorga was landing some really solid and wild shots but Sky's version was like Mayorga was like some hopeless victim dragged into the ring against his will.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on February 27, 2015, 12:12:20 AM
Booked flights today €623, had Excalibur booked since January for €323 its now €1100 for the same room, hopefully I click the mega slots or something when I get there and I will be able to get a ticket  >:<


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: brocktonbomber on February 27, 2015, 12:41:17 AM
If you're looking at £400 for the Tropicana then I'd sack off the strip and stay at one of the better Fremont St places personally. Prefer the atmosphere down there and cabs to the MGM and back won't be too expensive.
Apart from going to the fights themselves, I prefer downtown to the strip for everything. Hotels, gambling, eating, drinking, bars. I usually stay at the Golden Nugget. I see room prices there for this fight weekend are nearly 3 times typical weekends.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on February 27, 2015, 04:21:36 AM
The welters used to be the marquee division a few years ago, now its dog tired with little depth compared to when Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams were all much younger in 2008 etc.

Whether i stay up to watch it will be down to whether Sky & Jim Watt / Nick Halling host it.

If they do, it will be a HD download on the Sunday AM and will watch the American version.

I'd prefer a delay with the best commentary and a full english breakfast, than watch live with those muppets sending me into a seething 4am rage.

For this fight though the commentary might not be any better.

Are both showtime and hbo showing the ppv's? If so I'd expect they would be cheerleading their fighter if it was reasonably close.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 27, 2015, 08:48:30 PM
Booked flights today €623, had Excalibur booked since January for €323 its now €1100 for the same room, hopefully I click the mega slots or something when I get there and I will be able to get a ticket  >:<

ha ha me too i keep telling ma wife we might get lucky.

You got a prefrence for which hotel to watch it on closed circuit ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on February 28, 2015, 03:44:45 PM
travel republic still got some decent rooms in the linq and harrahs ... about 100 quid a night


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on February 28, 2015, 06:22:49 PM
ha ha me too i keep telling ma wife we might get lucky.

You got a prefrence for which hotel to watch it on closed circuit ...


http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2015/02/23/how-to-watch-mayweather-pacquiao-without-getting-koed-by-ticket-prices/ (http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2015/02/23/how-to-watch-mayweather-pacquiao-without-getting-koed-by-ticket-prices/)
I have never done the Closed circuit, was lucky enough to be able to afford the inflated ticket prices for mayweather v hatton but this time unless you were seriously comfortable with money it would be hard to justify paying the prices that are being asked ,  so I have no preference as to were I'll watch it but am open to suggestions


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 06, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Am I right in thinking Marquez is the only counter puncher Manny has faced? At least at the top level


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tuco on March 06, 2015, 11:32:46 PM
Am I right in thinking Marquez is the only counter puncher Manny has faced? At least at the top level

Great point. There has to be a reason for that right?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on March 06, 2015, 11:53:35 PM
Great point. There has to be a reason for that right?

Works both ways though after Floyd fought i think it was Corley or Mitchell Floyd Sr called Jr's team and said "Keep him away from southpaws."


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 07, 2015, 07:11:25 PM
Am I right in thinking Marquez is the only counter puncher Manny has faced? At least at the top level

Yes but he faced him a lot !


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AndyE on March 07, 2015, 07:56:56 PM
If you have been in the ring with Marquez four times then in some way you are ready for a portion of what Mayweather brings in terms of counter-punching.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 07, 2015, 08:19:37 PM
If you have been in the ring with Marquez four times then in some way you are ready for a portion of what Mayweather brings in terms of counter-punching.

Only matters if you've learnt something from it though


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: matty m on March 07, 2015, 10:30:59 PM
Manny has not learned from Marquez. Manny isn't a cerebral fighter. He does what he does and he does what he's told. He does it with the best of effort and the best of intentions. But he doesn't have what fighters like Marquez and Barrera have/had which is the ability to develop their own tactics as they get used to their opponent.

Manny has faced the counterpunching, 'head' fighter (as in a fighter who thinks a lot) Marquez 4 times. And each time Marquez has learned more about Manny and dealt with him better. Each time pacquiao has looked less able to outbox Marquez thanthe last. And has more and more been reliant on athletic gifts like power, strength, handspeed, footwork. Personally.... I think Marquez showed Pacquiao up in the first fight, although technically underthe ten point must system, he drew (or narrowly won or lost in some people's eyes), in terms of the fight, he embarassed Manny. The other 3 fights, I think he won. Obviously 1 is unambiguous, but fights II and III were in my opinion an exhibition of how to negate Manny Pacquiao.

When Marquez faced Mayweather, size was obviously a factor. Marquez is a GREAT fighter, imo he's just the top of the top class, I rate him more highly than words can say and love his style, but Mayweather totally neutralised him. Why? Because as well as footspeed, he had more reach, better balance, better rhythm (all the technical skills Marquez usually can use to outclass his opponents, AND size advantage as well).

Is Pacquiao going to be able to do what he failed to do to Marquez (beat him (he won't win a decision if the fight is at all close)) against a reachier, stronger, quicker, cleverer fighter? No. Without those strength, power, handspeed,footspeed advantages which levelled the playing field between pac and the infinitely skilled Marquez, Pacquiao will hold 2 cards only. Equal handspeed (or close to equal) to May, and good foot movement. Overall, Mayweather holds too manycards for those to be the deciding factors.

There will quite possibly be moments where Manny puts tearsin Floyd's eyes with his awkward angles and great movement, but over all, the classier fighter will win and this will be an easier fight for Floyd than the Hatton fight by a small margin.

Mayweather - Decision, approx 116-112


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 08, 2015, 05:29:02 PM
Mayweather starts sparring with Zab Judah tomorrow


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 08, 2015, 05:36:20 PM
Mayweather starts sparring with Zab Judah tomorrow

Be a good 3 and a half rounds in the bank


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 08, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
Mayweather starts sparring with Zab Judah tomorrow

 :-X



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on March 08, 2015, 08:23:43 PM
Mayweather starts sparring with Zab Judah tomorrow

just him? im sure he must be sparring a few other guys aswell? If judah was more durable, he prob be ample sparring for a more younger fighter ... but not this fight


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 08, 2015, 08:32:43 PM
just him? im sure he must be sparring a few other guys aswell? If judah was more durable, he prob be ample sparring for a more younger fighter ... but not this fight

Demarcus Chop Chop Corley as well. Not sure who else. I know Eubank Jr is going out there, but he didn't say it was too spar, just to be part of the 'the money team', so I don't know if he'll spar or not. I imagine they'll be a couple of others aswell


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on March 11, 2015, 10:57:27 AM
Press Conference Live from the Nokia Theatre, LA tonight at 9:30pm UK time.

http://www.toprank.com/ (http://www.toprank.com/) and also on http://www.spam.com (http://www.spam.com)

Only time they will come face to face before fight week.

No doubt its going to be the Roach and Mayweather SR show tonight as I cant see Floyd or Manny firing off any shots at one another unless Floyd has gone full 2007 Dela Hoya personna to build this up further but cannot see that at all.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: matty m on March 11, 2015, 01:50:12 PM
just him? im sure he must be sparring a few other guys aswell? If judah was more durable, he prob be ample sparring for a more younger fighter ... but not this fight
Why do people always do this? Criticise the sparring partners. Zab is a quality fighter, and a quick, aggressive southpaw. What do you want him to do? Get Manny Pacquiao in as a sparring partner? It seems these days whoever a fighter gets in to his camp, people are going 'this guy will not be adequate preparation for his opponent'.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 11, 2015, 02:51:11 PM
Press Conference Live from the Nokia Theatre, LA tonight at 9:30pm UK time.

[url]http://www.toprank.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.toprank.com/[/url]) and also on [url]http://www.spam.com[/url] ([url]http://www.spam.com[/url])

Only time they will come face to face before fight week.

No doubt its going to be the Roach and Mayweather SR show tonight as I cant see Floyd or Manny firing off any shots at one another unless Floyd has gone full 2007 Dela Hoya personna to build this up further but cannot see that at all.



I think mayweather plays the bad guy card when he needs to sell a fight on his own,  like mouthing off to Guerrero or grabbing Ortiz by the throat. I would be surprised if he tries to pull a publicity stunt for the BIG one. I can't imagine him grabbing manny by the throat,  given his demeanour when they met at the basketball game.  It would seem contrived.

I think it will be left to Roach and Mayweather snr to spice up the proceedings.  I can't wait to watch it live tonight.  Hopefully I'm wrong and Mayweather starts an almighty brawl with him biting mannys leg ala Tyson v Lewis. Could the fight get any bigger with controversy thrown in ? Hell yea..?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 11, 2015, 08:44:01 PM

Does anybody know if the Live stream event can be watched via Kodi/XBMC ?

Is there a TV channel running this ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on March 11, 2015, 09:11:06 PM
Does anybody know if the Live stream event can be watched via Kodi/XBMC ?

Is there a TV channel running this ?

It's on SSN i think.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on March 11, 2015, 09:35:58 PM
Announcement of ticket prices killed it  ;D $1500-$7500


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on March 11, 2015, 09:40:14 PM
For someone who doesn't get hit mayweather is punchy.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 11, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
Announcement of ticket prices killed it  ;D $1500-$7500

I thought tickets weren't going on sale to the general public.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on March 11, 2015, 09:48:59 PM
I thought tickets weren't going on sale to the general public.

Only announced prices, further announcement in the next few days. The amount they sold the ppv/watching it home card it sounds like you'll be one lucky f**ker to be in that arena


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 11, 2015, 09:53:41 PM
Embarrassing 30 minutes I'll never get back.

Looking forward to the fight but that was painful.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on March 11, 2015, 09:57:35 PM
What was all that stuttering about from Floyd? Definitely not the brash cocky confident sounding Floyd we usually get at press conferences keeping it calm showing respect for Manny is understandable but I don't think I've heard Floyd talk like that before.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 11, 2015, 10:02:45 PM
What was all that stuttering about from Floyd? Definitely not the brash cocky confident sounding Floyd we usually get at press conferences keeping it calm showing respect for Manny is understandable but I don't think I've heard Floyd talk like that before.

I wasnt sure if the microphone was cutting in and out. Everybody sounded like they were close to tears.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 11, 2015, 10:11:51 PM
Mayweather vs Pacquiao press conference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08e5bxyCz8I#ws)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DLINKLA on March 11, 2015, 10:25:59 PM
I thought Bob Arum was class


Seemed only floyd  jnr got his sense of humour as he had a pop at floyd snr and the head of showtime.




Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 11, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
Anywhere I can download the full conference?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 11, 2015, 11:02:25 PM
Anywhere I can download the full conference?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Live-Fight/134761614785 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Live-Fight/134761614785)

All on the facebook page tonight mate


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on March 11, 2015, 11:10:05 PM
I thought Bob Arum was class

Seemed only floyd  jnr got his sense of humour as he had a pop at floyd snr and the head of showtime.


I agree Arum was good value. Thought it was strange snr wasn't invited to speak, that's what I was looking forward to tbh...him and roach bitching  //

Roll on May 2nd


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 12, 2015, 12:21:50 AM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Live-Fight/134761614785 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Live-Fight/134761614785)

All on the facebook page tonight mate

Thanks mate, is there a part missing? Espinozas bit is completely cut out


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 12, 2015, 06:31:53 AM
Thanks mate, is there a part missing? Espinozas bit is completely cut out

Yes, because he's a twerp.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 12, 2015, 02:13:35 PM
Thats the worst press conference Ive ever seen. Nobody on that table can public speak. Manny was on his phone the whole time and Mayweather looked close to tears


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 12, 2015, 02:30:52 PM
Thats the worst press conference Ive ever seen. Nobody on that table can public speak. Manny was on his phone the whole time and Mayweather looked close to tears

Agreed, it was terrible.

Pascal & Kovalev brought more excitement in just 5 seconds of their presser.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: bigbibbs on March 13, 2015, 01:03:58 PM
no poll on this one yet?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on March 13, 2015, 01:24:51 PM
Agreed, it was terrible.

Pascal & Kovalev brought more excitement in just 5 seconds of their presser.

Because they have to sell the fight more?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Keegan Jacobs on March 15, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
Have not posted on these forums for a long time, i miss this boxing website.

Going to be a good fight but Floyd's timing of single punches left hook and then side step, Right hand lead then slip, left jab to the body... All these single punch leads will frustrate Manny. Pacman just needs to win the judges hearts by throwing volume of punches because once again that will get the crowd chanting, at the same time persuading the judges decision.

FLoyd keys to victory
-Floyd can't stay by the ropes, just lead with any punch but needs to slip or side step which i feel he will do.
- Its all bout timing and Floyd will make Manny think since pacman won't know which lead punch is coming up next ( left jab to the body, Straight right to the head, or left hook ) He will switch it up everytime because he does not want manny to feel out floyds rythem.
-FLoyd will need to clinch and throw dirty punches to the body, those punches are effective come the mid rounds, you become more flat footed.

Pacman keys to victory

- Volume of punches, miss or hit it won't matter too much to the fans eyes as they will get loud which will help pacman win the hearts of the judges.
- Don't chase Floyd, need to cut off the ring. If he chases floyd, i feel manny will get frustrated and start throwing for the fences which will lead in floyds favor.
- Time floyds single punches , for every 1 lead punch by floyd, manny will need to throw 2 or 3 right back. Dont allow floyd to throw lead punches and escape, you need to counter right back.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Gaz on March 15, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Who has the better shot? Floyd's straight right lead or Pacquiao's straight left? Mayweather's is more accurate and stunning, but Pacquiao's is more damaging?

Mayweather's check left hook? Pacquiao's fairly recently cultivated check right hook that he first exhibited to devastating effect in the Hatton fight?

Has Mayweather come up against anybody with the speed and in-out ability of Pacquiao before?

I think we will see the most fired up Pacquiao we have seen since Cotto, I really think he is going to be the very best that he can be. Let's not forget for all Mayweather's accolades during his career, Pacquiao was the one named fighter of the decade and I don't think he has necessarily slipped as much as people have made out, I just think the fire hasn't been there due to inadequate challenges coupled with going over old ground (Marquez).





Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 15, 2015, 06:20:18 PM
Have not posted on these forums for a long time, i miss this boxing website.

Going to be a good fight but Floyd's timing of single punches left hook and then side step, Right hand lead then slip, left jab to the body... All these single punch leads will frustrate Manny. Pacman just needs to win the judges hearts by throwing volume of punches because once again that will get the crowd chanting, at the same time persuading the judges decision.

FLoyd keys to victory
-Floyd can't stay by the ropes, just lead with any punch but needs to slip or side step which i feel he will do.
- Its all bout timing and Floyd will make Manny think since pacman won't know which lead punch is coming up next ( left jab to the body, Straight right to the head, or left hook ) He will switch it up everytime because he does not want manny to feel out floyds rythem.
-FLoyd will need to clinch and throw dirty punches to the body, those punches are effective come the mid rounds, you become more flat footed.

Pacman keys to victory

- Volume of punches, miss or hit it won't matter too much to the fans eyes as they will get loud which will help pacman win the hearts of the judges.
- Don't chase Floyd, need to cut off the ring. If he chases floyd, i feel manny will get frustrated and start throwing for the fences which will lead in floyds favor.
- Time floyds single punches , for every 1 lead punch by floyd, manny will need to throw 2 or 3 right back. Dont allow floyd to throw lead punches and escape, you need to counter right back.


Good post and welcome back.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on March 15, 2015, 06:44:01 PM
Have not posted on these forums for a long time, i miss this boxing website.

Going to be a good fight but Floyd's timing of single punches left hook and then side step, Right hand lead then slip, left jab to the body... All these single punch leads will frustrate Manny. Pacman just needs to win the judges hearts by throwing volume of punches because once again that will get the crowd chanting, at the same time persuading the judges decision.

FLoyd keys to victory
-Floyd can't stay by the ropes, just lead with any punch but needs to slip or side step which i feel he will do.
- Its all bout timing and Floyd will make Manny think since pacman won't know which lead punch is coming up next ( left jab to the body, Straight right to the head, or left hook ) He will switch it up everytime because he does not want manny to feel out floyds rythem.
-FLoyd will need to clinch and throw dirty punches to the body, those punches are effective come the mid rounds, you become more flat footed.

Pacman keys to victory

- Volume of punches, miss or hit it won't matter too much to the fans eyes as they will get loud which will help pacman win the hearts of the judges.
- Don't chase Floyd, need to cut off the ring. If he chases floyd, i feel manny will get frustrated and start throwing for the fences which will lead in floyds favor.
- Time floyds single punches , for every 1 lead punch by floyd, manny will need to throw 2 or 3 right back. Dont allow floyd to throw lead punches and escape, you need to counter right back.


I think the difference in coaches is overlooked a bit, i think freddie is a better coach compared to floyd snr and will have a plan a,b and maybe c and will


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: brocktonbomber on March 15, 2015, 07:47:24 PM
I think the difference in coaches is overlooked a bit, i think freddie is a better coach compared to floyd snr and will have a plan a,b and maybe c and will

Mayweather doesn't need a trainer to come up with a plan the same way Pacquiao does. Mayweather will come up with a gameplan himself and during the fight can rely on his own judgement as to what adjustments to make. Pacquiao needs someone like Roach to come up with a gameplan as well as guide him through the fight.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: brocktonbomber on March 15, 2015, 07:49:53 PM
Have not posted on these forums for a long time, i miss this boxing website.

Hey Keegan, what's up? Good to see you here, again.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on March 15, 2015, 07:58:01 PM
A bit off topic . looking for advice, has anyone here ever watched a fight in closed circuit, if so any recommendations, been lucky to get tickets for fights in Vegas in the past but am resigned to the fact that the white collars will be occupying the arena for a blue collar sport. Even if I had the money don't think I could justify 4k and upwards for 36mins of entertainment.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on March 15, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Pacquiao apparently sparred Rigondeaux this week, interesting


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Gaz on March 15, 2015, 08:36:38 PM
Pacquiao apparently sparred Rigondeaux this week, interesting

Good prep for the Quigg fight...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: IrishPaddy on March 15, 2015, 08:59:02 PM
A bit off topic . looking for advice, has anyone here ever watched a fight in closed circuit, if so any recommendations, been lucky to get tickets for fights in Vegas in the past but am resigned to the fact that the white collars will be occupying the arena for a blue collar sport. Even if I had the money don't think I could justify 4k and upwards for 36mins of entertainment.

You might be better off getting away from the MGM. Somewhere like the Monte Carlo would be good. They'll show the non-TV fights on the small screens in the casino/lobby bar. Then when the TV fights kick off, they turn the small screens off and you can head into the closed circuit. Nice lobby bar there too where you can watch the non-TV fights. They have "The Pub" and they usually show the big fights, so you can reserve a table for a group, get food/drink at your leisure. They usually do all you can drink packages too. But it won't be cheap. There's also a similar place in Planet Hollywood, Blondies. It's an alternative to the big ballroom setup.

There's always the strip clubs too.

The MGM will be the only place to be up until the day of the fight, then I find it gets too much. Too many people, too many idiots about. Go somewhere more relaxing.

All the MGM owned casinos will have the fight, so the Luxor/Mandalay Bay/NYNY/Excalibur/Monte Carlo/Aria/Mirage/Bellagio will all have it. All will sell out so reserve as soon as it's announced.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on March 15, 2015, 09:05:38 PM
I think the difference in coaches is overlooked a bit, i think freddie is a better coach compared to floyd snr and will have a plan a,b and maybe c and will

Tbh mate I think this is another reason why manny's best chance was 4 years ago.
I think Freddie has declined more than people let on in this time, and he no longer is the voice manny listens to in the corner.
4 years ago he had the edge over pbf camp for me, now I think he's more a face than anything else on fight night.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: brocktonbomber on March 15, 2015, 09:08:56 PM
A bit off topic . looking for advice, has anyone here ever watched a fight in closed circuit, if so any recommendations, been lucky to get tickets for fights in Vegas in the past but am resigned to the fact that the white collars will be occupying the arena for a blue collar sport. Even if I had the money don't think I could justify 4k and upwards for 36mins of entertainment.
Last one I saw in closed circuit was Hagler-Duran ... lol. That was before PPV was available at home or maybe just starting in some areas. It was OK then and I'd imagine it's even better now with all the new technology. Go and enjoy. I'd also recommend going to the Friday night card at the Cosmopolitan. Keep on eye out for the on-sale date and splurge for some good seats, won't be that much. There'll be lots of fight people there.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on March 15, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
I see the prices were announced but any word on when the tickets are due to go on sale?

I know I have no hope in hell of getting a ticket when they go on sale on ticketmaster but I am one of the idiots who is willing to pay the prices being touted on sites just now as I have saved for sometime knowing the prices would be insane but want to be 100% sure if I am paying that type of cash I will receive a ticket I pay for.

Might be a long shot but is there any people on this site who may have connections that could get their hands on a ticket?



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Hurricane on March 15, 2015, 09:32:13 PM
I see the prices were announced but any word on when the tickets are due to go on sale?

I know I have no hope in hell of getting a ticket when they go on sale on ticketmaster but I am one of the idiots who is willing to pay the prices being touted on sites just now as I have saved for sometime knowing the prices would be insane but want to be 100% sure if I am paying that type of cash I will receive a ticket I pay for.

Might be a long shot but is there any people on this site who may have connections that could get their hands on a ticket?



I saw somewhere that a guy connected to Top Rank wanted 50 tickets and was told he could have 4. Bob Hope unfortunately I think mate.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on March 15, 2015, 10:18:50 PM
Even getting into the weigh in is going to be a task I'd say, unless your willing to que for hours


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on March 16, 2015, 05:00:38 AM
Even getting into the weigh in is going to be a task I'd say, unless your willing to que for hours


I did hear the weigh in could potentially charge for admission also to save mass queues and carnage seen while waiting for previous weigh ins  :-\


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on March 16, 2015, 07:18:56 AM
A bit off topic . looking for advice, has anyone here ever watched a fight in closed circuit, if so any recommendations, been lucky to get tickets for fights in Vegas in the past but am resigned to the fact that the white collars will be occupying the arena for a blue collar sport. Even if I had the money don't think I could justify 4k and upwards for 36mins of entertainment.

i am the same mate, from what i can see they dont announce it till the tickets for the fight have sold or nearly sold out. From what i can gather some of thr MGM hotels have them, but even getting a ticket doesent gurentee you a seat from what i read. The only place i can see that would show it is a strip club called sapphires, they done a deal for up to 4 folk for 750 dollars with a few bottles and table service included for the last fight ;D

ill keep and eye out and share any info i have mate ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 16, 2015, 04:41:29 PM
Myboxingtravel just emailed me again. They have 4 nights at the NYNY with flights and a fight ticket for £6,499.

Not for me, but depends how badly you want a ticket and how deep your pockets are.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on March 16, 2015, 04:53:40 PM
i am the same mate, from what i can see they dont announce it till the tickets for the fight have sold or nearly sold out. From what i can gather some of thr MGM hotels have them, but even getting a ticket doesent gurentee you a seat from what i read. The only place i can see that would show it is a strip club called sapphires, they done a deal for up to 4 folk for 750 dollars with a few bottles and table service included for the last fight ;D

ill keep and eye out and share any info i have mate ...
We are staying in the Bellagio which is owned by MGM so think we are going to look for something in there hopefully. Staying as far away from MGM as I can fight night


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on March 16, 2015, 04:54:33 PM
Myboxingtravel just emailed me again. They have 4 nights at the NYNY with flights and a fight ticket for £6,499.

Not for me, but depends how badly you want a ticket and how deep your pockets are.
I got an email from one company the other day. Business class flights, 3 nights in the Bellagio or Wynn and a 200 level ticket - £10,995


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 16, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
I got an email from one company the other day. Business class flights, 3 nights in the Bellagio or Wynn and a 200 level ticket - £10,995

Cheap as chips  :-X


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on March 16, 2015, 05:12:04 PM
i am the same mate, from what i can see they dont announce it till the tickets for the fight have sold or nearly sold out. From what i can gather some of thr MGM hotels have them, but even getting a ticket doesent gurentee you a seat from what i read. The only place i can see that would show it is a strip club called sapphires, they done a deal for up to 4 folk for 750 dollars with a few bottles and table service included for the last fight ;D


Closed Circuit Fight at Mandalay Bay-  view from VIP section Feel vibe F...: https://youtu.be/oGhgcx4S7lQ

This looks alright if I could get tickets to this I'd be quite content

ill keep and eye out and share any info i have mate ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 16, 2015, 06:02:32 PM
I got an email from one company the other day. Business class flights, 3 nights in the Bellagio or Wynn and a 200 level ticket - £10,995

I dont even think it's going to be a great fight.

People with that sort of money, should look to get caterers in and have a big massive bbq and buy themselves a HD projector & screen. It would still work out a quarter of that and you get to keep the equipment and spare booze the morning after, safe in the knowledge you dont have a 12 hour flight and a massive hole in your bank balance, for what was basically a 36 minute cat and mouse fight.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Hurricane on March 16, 2015, 06:34:44 PM
I dont even think it's going to be a great fight.

People with that sort of money, should look to get caterers in and have a big massive bbq and buy themselves a HD projector & screen. It would still work out a quarter of that and you get to keep the equipment and spare booze the morning after, safe in the knowledge you dont have a 12 hour flight and a massive hole in your bank balance, for what was basically a 36 minute cat and mouse fight.

My thoughts exactly. It would have to be 12 rounds of Hagler v Hearns crossed with Corrales v Castillo 1 to be worth that sort of money but we'll be lucky if it's as good as the first Floyd v Maidana fight.  You could be ringside for a whole host of other fights instead of being in the back row for this.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on March 16, 2015, 07:16:44 PM


That looks class doesent it ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 17, 2015, 09:00:06 AM
I dont even think it's going to be a great fight.

People with that sort of money, should look to get caterers in and have a big massive bbq and buy themselves a HD projector & screen. It would still work out a quarter of that and you get to keep the equipment and spare booze the morning after, safe in the knowledge you dont have a 12 hour flight and a massive hole in your bank balance, for what was basically a 36 minute cat and mouse fight.

To be honest Red, the majority of the people who will attend the fight are the kind that will throw down £10k on a roulette wheel and not even watch where the ball lands. 16000+ people making up the top 1% of earners is who your competing with.  The kind that a HD projector was already installed when they costed 10k to buy. The crazy but fortunate few.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on March 17, 2015, 09:41:46 AM
I'd sooner go to Ruslan v Mattheyssee and be ringside for 150dollars then waste that kind of bread on pac v may. It will be a far better fight for sure


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: BurnleyHitman on March 18, 2015, 10:01:16 AM
I dont even think it's going to be a great fight.

People with that sort of money, should look to get caterers in and have a big massive bbq and buy themselves a HD projector & screen. It would still work out a quarter of that and you get to keep the equipment and spare booze the morning after, safe in the knowledge you dont have a 12 hour flight and a massive hole in your bank balance, for what was basically a 36 minute cat and mouse fight.

I agree. Im looking forward to it, but just like I look forward to every Floyd outing. Its just a regulation defence really, no different to the last dozen 'big' ones. A closer match that most of the last dozen but the run-up to ODLH, Hatton and Canelo (in particular) felt like more evenly matched fights.

If you go look at Malignaggi's interview on YT from about a week before the match was made, I think he nailed it, a full 5 minute interview and I couldnt disagree with any of it. Floyd vs 'The Illusion' and it "could be a dud".


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: IrishPaddy on March 18, 2015, 03:52:51 PM
I agree. Im looking forward to it, but just like I look forward to every Floyd outing. Its just a regulation defence really, no different to the last dozen 'big' ones. A closer match that most of the last dozen but the run-up to ODLH, Hatton and Canelo (in particular) felt like more evenly matched fights.

If you go look at Malignaggi's interview on YT from about a week before the match was made, I think he nailed it, a full 5 minute interview and I couldnt disagree with any of it. Floyd vs 'The Illusion' and it "could be a dud".

Malignaggi is usually spot on, but he's proven himself to be just a Pacquaio hater recently. How anyone like him can belittle what Pacquaio has accomplished is beyond me. And he's made himself look like a tit by doing it.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on March 18, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
Malignaggi is usually spot on, but he's proven himself to be just a Pacquaio hater recently. How anyone like him can belittle what Pacquaio has accomplished is beyond me. And he's made himself look like a tit by doing it.

Yep to me Paulie was just trying to stick his nose in and get a payday from team Pac but they ignored him and got the big one on instead.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: stevenmason on March 18, 2015, 08:26:54 PM
I spoke to a mate today who said he is fine with paying for the cheapest ticket for the fight. But me personally, no 36 minute fight is worth over a grand, especially the way boxing is now.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on March 18, 2015, 09:32:26 PM
Malignaggi is usually spot on, but he's proven himself to be just a Pacquaio hater recently. How anyone like him can belittle what Pacquaio has accomplished is beyond me. And he's made himself look like a tit by doing it.

Completely neutral opinion...

I'm seriously considering going to vegas just to hear your bullshit you come out with when he loses.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: dmp on March 18, 2015, 10:00:32 PM
Floyd will KO Manny tailor made is Manny for Floyd   


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tuco on March 19, 2015, 12:42:30 AM
^ I agree, Floyd is all wrong for pacquiao. After 3 rounds hes goiing to bemused, frustrated and somewht clueless in there, then get reckless. Floyds timing will be Manny's undoing. Not to mention speed and reach advantage. It played a part in the first Morales defeat, only Morales was never really quick. I don't hear too manny people going for a Ko win for Floyd but its a possibility.
Manny has never fought someone with the boxing skills that Floyd posesses. Marquez and Morales were skillful practitioners of the noble art but nowhere near Floyds level of mastery. Has Manny fought a guy as quick either? Together with Mayweathers briliant timing and reach advantage, at some point in the fight Floyd is going to catch pacquiao with something he doesnt see coming.

I'm going for a spectacular knock out win for Floyd. I cannot see Manny making an impact in this fight.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on March 19, 2015, 08:30:05 AM
^ I agree, Floyd is all wrong for pacquiao. After 3 rounds hes goiing to bemused, frustrated and somewht clueless in there, then get reckless. Floyds timing will be Manny's undoing. Not to mention speed and reach advantage. It played a part in the first Morales defeat, only Morales was never really quick. I don't hear too manny people going for a Ko win for Floyd but its a possibility.
Manny has never fought someone with the boxing skills that Floyd posesses. Marquez and Morales were skillful practitioners of the noble art but nowhere near Floyds level of mastery. Has Manny fought a guy as quick either? Together with Mayweathers briliant timing and reach advantage, at some point in the fight Floyd is going to catch pacquiao with something he doesnt see coming.

I'm going for a spectacular knock out win for Floyd. I cannot see Manny making an impact in this fight.

Equally has mayweather ever fought anyone with the hand speed of pacquaio or someone with the shot selection of pac? You would have to go back as far as Judah as the last really fast guy he's faced and we know how he struggled there. Maidana was exceptionally slow and he struggled badly in the first fight. Pacquiao also has exceptional footwork, how will he cope with that?

Manny is all wrong for Floyd also.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 19, 2015, 10:22:46 AM
Equally has mayweather ever fought anyone with the hand speed of pacquaio or someone with the shot selection of pac? You would have to go back as far as Judah as the last really fast guy he's faced and we know how he struggled there. Maidana was exceptionally slow and he struggled badly in the first fight. Pacquiao also has exceptional footwork, how will he cope with that?

Manny is all wrong for Floyd also.


Have we actually seen a style yet we can say is all wrong for Floyd? People have ideas of what would be worst for him but neither has been conclusively proven. He has won every fight.

Zab Judah is pretty close to Floyd's own style, so using him as a guide does not give Manny much hope.

Maidana even? Yeah he is an aggressive come forward fighter but in terms of effective work he got against what I do think was an off night for Mayweather in the first fight was pretty limited. He relied heavily upon on his physical strength also which I don't expect Manny too. Manny won't be charging forward like that. He won't be on Floyds chest when letting his shots go.

May 2nd will prove if Manny can be all wrong for Floyd, impossible to say really until then because prior to that the amount of times Floyd has been in any doubt of winning a fight is very few and far between. Castillo all those years back, Delahoya and for me that is it.

What we do know about Manny from the benefit of four occasions is that he can be timed, hurt, knocked out and out boxed. Not only that, but this was done by a guy Floyd sadly played with for 12 rounds. I know people will cry back to the size etc, but does anyone really expect it to have been any different vs the welter version of Marquez that Manny faced?

I know Floyd and Marquez are very different too in there own ways, but both rely heavily on there timing which for Marquez against Manny worked a treat. Even Tim Bradley who yes I agree Manny beat, but he did make Manny look for less effective than many other guys simply by not trying to meet fire with fire and stand off and box him.

While Floyd won't be quite so willing to take a shot like Marquez, he will have the reach making that not really necessary. His reflexes are better, speed is quicker, timing is sharper. Manny will need to commit to combinations, but the more shots he throws, the longer he leaves himself open and like all the others, I think even he will find most of his shots hitting arms, shoulder or thin air.

Both have something to offer that the other has not seen before, but I do think history alone makes more of a case for Floyd winning than Manny. Best part is though, once the bell rings none of it will count for shit.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: TC on March 19, 2015, 11:28:30 AM
Have we actually seen a style yet we can say is all wrong for Floyd? People have ideas of what would be worst for him but neither has been conclusively proven. He has won every fight.

Zab Judah is pretty close to Floyd's own style, so using him as a guide does not give Manny much hope.

Maidana even? Yeah he is an aggressive come forward fighter but in terms of effective work he got against what I do think was an off night for Mayweather in the first fight was pretty limited. He relied heavily upon on his physical strength also which I don't expect Manny too. Manny won't be charging forward like that. He won't be on Floyds chest when letting his shots go.

May 2nd will prove if Manny can be all wrong for Floyd, impossible to say really until then because prior to that the amount of times Floyd has been in any doubt of winning a fight is very few and far between. Castillo all those years back, Delahoya and for me that is it.

What we do know about Manny from the benefit of four occasions is that he can be timed, hurt, knocked out and out boxed. Not only that, but this was done by a guy Floyd sadly played with for 12 rounds. I know people will cry back to the size etc, but does anyone really expect it to have been any different vs the welter version of Marquez that Manny faced?

I know Floyd and Marquez are very different too in there own ways, but both rely heavily on there timing which for Marquez against Manny worked a treat. Even Tim Bradley who yes I agree Manny beat, but he did make Manny look for less effective than many other guys simply by not trying to meet fire with fire and stand off and box him.

While Floyd won't be quite so willing to take a shot like Marquez, he will have the reach making that not really necessary. His reflexes are better, speed is quicker, timing is sharper. Manny will need to commit to combinations, but the more shots he throws, the longer he leaves himself open and like all the others, I think even he will find most of his shots hitting arms, shoulder or thin air.

Both have something to offer that the other has not seen before, but I do think history alone makes more of a case for Floyd winning than Manny. Best part is though, once the bell rings none of it will count for shit.

Good analysis. To my mind, the one who's been as close as anyone to beating Mayweather is (a pretty shopworn) Shane Mosley, who had Floyd badly hurt early in their fight which people seem to forget about. Obviously Mayweather adjusted and outboxed him to a wide decision as the fight went on, but that fight showed Mayweather could be caught clean and badly shaken.

There's a reason this fight has been dodged for so long; they both know it's a very hard fight when there was easier money to be made elsewhere.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on March 19, 2015, 12:28:27 PM
Irrespective of styles etc, this is the best v the best even if it is a few years too late. Yes Manny has been beaten, but plenty of people who have been beaten have taken others undefeated records. Floyd starts favourite and rightly so but he has shown signs of being in trouble before: Oscar, Ricky, Mosley, Maidana in their 2nd fight wobbled him badly at the end of one round and he had to hold onto the ropes.

Enjoy this for what it is cos it might not come around again


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 19, 2015, 12:41:03 PM
I think the way to beat Floyd is workrate + volume of punches.

Shut him down, because he's often been a little economical in his output.

I'd laugh it ended in a draw.

47-0-1 won't have the same ring to it.  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on March 19, 2015, 01:52:39 PM
Have we actually seen a style yet we can say is all wrong for Floyd? People have ideas of what would be worst for him but neither has been conclusively proven. He has won every fight.

Zab Judah is pretty close to Floyd's own style, so using him as a guide does not give Manny much hope.

Maidana even? Yeah he is an aggressive come forward fighter but in terms of effective work he got against what I do think was an off night for Mayweather in the first fight was pretty limited. He relied heavily upon on his physical strength also which I don't expect Manny too. Manny won't be charging forward like that. He won't be on Floyds chest when letting his shots go.

May 2nd will prove if Manny can be all wrong for Floyd, impossible to say really until then because prior to that the amount of times Floyd has been in any doubt of winning a fight is very few and far between. Castillo all those years back, Delahoya and for me that is it.

What we do know about Manny from the benefit of four occasions is that he can be timed, hurt, knocked out and out boxed. Not only that, but this was done by a guy Floyd sadly played with for 12 rounds. I know people will cry back to the size etc, but does anyone really expect it to have been any different vs the welter version of Marquez that Manny faced?

I know Floyd and Marquez are very different too in there own ways, but both rely heavily on there timing which for Marquez against Manny worked a treat. Even Tim Bradley who yes I agree Manny beat, but he did make Manny look for less effective than many other guys simply by not trying to meet fire with fire and stand off and box him.

While Floyd won't be quite so willing to take a shot like Marquez, he will have the reach making that not really necessary. His reflexes are better, speed is quicker, timing is sharper. Manny will need to commit to combinations, but the more shots he throws, the longer he leaves himself open and like all the others, I think even he will find most of his shots hitting arms, shoulder or thin air.

Both have something to offer that the other has not seen before, but I do think history alone makes more of a case for Floyd winning than Manny. Best part is though, once the bell rings none of it will count for shit.

Great post, enjoyed reading that


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 19, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
Have we actually seen a style yet we can say is all wrong for Floyd? People have ideas of what would be worst for him but neither has been conclusively proven. He has won every fight.

Zab Judah is pretty close to Floyd's own style, so using him as a guide does not give Manny much hope.

Maidana even? Yeah he is an aggressive come forward fighter but in terms of effective work he got against what I do think was an off night for Mayweather in the first fight was pretty limited. He relied heavily upon on his physical strength also which I don't expect Manny too. Manny won't be charging forward like that. He won't be on Floyds chest when letting his shots go.

May 2nd will prove if Manny can be all wrong for Floyd, impossible to say really until then because prior to that the amount of times Floyd has been in any doubt of winning a fight is very few and far between. Castillo all those years back, Delahoya and for me that is it.

What we do know about Manny from the benefit of four occasions is that he can be timed, hurt, knocked out and out boxed. Not only that, but this was done by a guy Floyd sadly played with for 12 rounds. I know people will cry back to the size etc, but does anyone really expect it to have been any different vs the welter version of Marquez that Manny faced?

I know Floyd and Marquez are very different too in there own ways, but both rely heavily on there timing which for Marquez against Manny worked a treat. Even Tim Bradley who yes I agree Manny beat, but he did make Manny look for less effective than many other guys simply by not trying to meet fire with fire and stand off and box him.

While Floyd won't be quite so willing to take a shot like Marquez, he will have the reach making that not really necessary. His reflexes are better, speed is quicker, timing is sharper. Manny will need to commit to combinations, but the more shots he throws, the longer he leaves himself open and like all the others, I think even he will find most of his shots hitting arms, shoulder or thin air.

Both have something to offer that the other has not seen before, but I do think history alone makes more of a case for Floyd winning than Manny. Best part is though, once the bell rings none of it will count for shit.

The modern version of Marquez is indeed a solid, muscular welterweight. The fleshy lightweight that fought Floyd is not the same guy in my opinion.

Manny has wrecked people like Cotto, that Floyd didn't have completely his own way with. I wont include Oscar in that comment though, as he was a total and utter idiot draining so low and not adding weight after the weigh in.

I think looking at Floyd, even just his face - you can see the youthfulness is not there anymore. Manny looks like he's always done.



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on March 19, 2015, 02:57:29 PM
The modern version of Marquez is indeed a solid, muscular welterweight. The fleshy lightweight that fought Floyd is not the same guy in my opinion.

Manny has wrecked people like Cotto, that Floyd didn't have completely his own way with. I wont include Oscar in that comment though, as he was a total and utter idiot draining so low and not adding weight after the weigh in.

I think looking at Floyd, even just his face - you can see the youthfulness is not there anymore. Manny looks like he's always done.

To be fair though Manny fought Cotto and 145 and Floyd fought him at 154 so Cotto would have been far more hydrated when fighting Floyd...

But I agree with you about Floyd's youthfulness not being there anymore... he is still winning fights and kept his 0 because he has exceptional talent nit it's only when you watch back his old fights that you appreciate how much he has slowed down as a fighter...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 19, 2015, 06:09:16 PM
The modern version of Marquez is indeed a solid, muscular welterweight. The fleshy lightweight that fought Floyd is not the same guy in my opinion.

Manny has wrecked people like Cotto, that Floyd didn't have completely his own way with. I wont include Oscar in that comment though, as he was a total and utter idiot draining so low and not adding weight after the weigh in.

I think looking at Floyd, even just his face - you can see the youthfulness is not there anymore. Manny looks like he's always done.



Floyd fought cotto at light middle though did he not? And manny vs cotto was at a catch weight I think.


Marquez I guess is open to opinions, for me he'd not lay a glove on floyd regardless and I regard Marquez as a top level fighter. Floyd sadly for him Is another level.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 19, 2015, 06:56:25 PM
Floyd fought cotto at light middle though did he not? And manny vs cotto was at a catch weight I think.


Marquez I guess is open to opinions, for me he'd not lay a glove on floyd regardless and I regard Marquez as a top level fighter. Floyd sadly for him Is another level.

Mayweather is just far better than Marquez in terms of defending and countering that particular style... but it doesn't help to answer if the same would be true against manny. There styles are different.

Mayweather struggled against an aggressive maidana, but coped exceedingly well against canelo. However I'm pretty certain that an aggressive canelo would smash through an aggressive maidana. Boxing is great like that.

I personality can't see manny landing frequently enough to outpoint mayweather,  but he could possibly land that mosely punch and finish the job.  Mayweather though has shown he has great powers of recovery,  and has also become more aggressive the more success his opponent has had.  He has yet to enter the trenches, I'm hoping that manny can take him there. If he doesn't then the event will be a total let down.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: G-man on March 19, 2015, 06:58:04 PM
Equally has mayweather ever fought anyone with the hand speed of pacquaio or someone with the shot selection of pac? You would have to go back as far as Judah as the last really fast guy he's faced and we know how he struggled there. Maidana was exceptionally slow and he struggled badly in the first fight. Pacquiao also has exceptional footwork, how will he cope with that?

Manny is all wrong for Floyd also.

I personally think that was down to Maidana's physical strength and decent chin which allowed him to march forward without much regard to what was coming the other way. I'm not sure Pacquiao could afford the same recklessness. If he walks onto a right hand counter like he did against Marquez then i still feel Floyd has enough pop to stop him in his tracks.

Pacquiao needs to forget talk of stopping Floyd and raid in and out with flurries to try and win on points IMO. Floyd's feet aren't what they used to be and he'll be hoping Pac comes at him aggressively rather than having to press the fight if Manny doesn't engage.



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 19, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
Scarface

Floyd is facing the same opponent Marquez faced, I know styles are different but ultimately they both rely on the same asset. An asset of which floyd has in far greater use.


People talk of floyd not having the legs he had, but is that true against an opponent who will be on his case from 1second in. Nobody is daft enough to think Manny will intentionally give floyd time, but does he have it in him to apply the required pressure?

Myself I don't see it, but it will be fascinating to find out even now.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on March 19, 2015, 09:49:47 PM
I personally think that was down to Maidana's physical strength and decent chin which allowed him to march forward without much regard to what was coming the other way. I'm not sure Pacquiao could afford the same recklessness. If he walks onto a right hand counter like he did against Marquez then i still feel Floyd has enough pop to stop him in his tracks.

Pacquiao needs to forget talk of stopping Floyd and raid in and out with flurries to try and win on points IMO. Floyd's feet aren't what they used to be and he'll be hoping Pac comes at him aggressively rather than having to press the fight if Manny doesn't engage.



It was Maidana's bravery and lack of respect for anyone or anything that also allowed him to march forward in that manner...

Totally agree with respect to the tactics Manny needs to employ to beat Floyd...he needs those flurries, high punch volume and nick it on points...he has to try and "steal" the win like Oscar tried to do but Manny can offer far more than Oscar did in terms of the flurries...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: BurnleyHitman on March 19, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
Malignaggi is usually spot on, but he's proven himself to be just a Pacquaio hater recently. How anyone like him can belittle what Pacquaio has accomplished is beyond me. And he's made himself look like a tit by doing it.

I'm quite comfortable belittling the most brutal and awesome period of Mannys accomplishmets, (08-10 ish), so I can't imagine Paulie worries about doing the same.

"The Illusion" - nobody could ever say it better than that. A blind man on a galloping horse can see what was going on but nobodies summed it up that well before.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 20, 2015, 04:20:36 AM
I think if Mosley had been 7 years younger he would've beat floyd and possibly stopped him. De la Hoya took it to the wire but as soon as he stopped throwing and landing the Jab Mayweather started to take over. There are different attributes that have given him problems over the years. Del la Hoya, Mosley and Maidana are are very different fighter but Mayeather has been able to adjust mid fight and find a way to negate his oppositions strengths and win.



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: 7777 on March 20, 2015, 06:22:23 AM
Castillo and De La Hoya were the two closest fights and really could have gone either way


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on March 20, 2015, 07:05:56 AM
I see this fight being much similar to the Mayweather/ Hatton fight, Manny will cut the ring off and follow Floyd around the ring the first few rounds until he susses him out and begins to time him with straight rights while Manny as per normal lunges in with his punches which he will do and gets caught round after round before a knockdown or two in the later rounds before the ref waves it off.

My prediction is Mayweather TKO 10-12



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 20, 2015, 08:28:00 AM
Castillo and De La Hoya were the two closest fights and really could have gone either way

Neither had any fear of Floyd whatsoever.

Add Maidana's mindset to that list too, who gave him a lot of trouble in the first fight.

They just had no respect for him and put it on him from the first bell.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: IrishPaddy on March 20, 2015, 12:55:11 PM
Completely neutral opinion...

I'm seriously considering going to vegas just to hear your bullshit you come out with when he loses.

But I pick Mayweather to win? :-\


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: IrishPaddy on March 20, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
Mayweather is just far better than Marquez in terms of defending and countering that particular style... but it doesn't help to answer if the same would be true against manny. There styles are different.

Mayweather struggled against an aggressive maidana, but coped exceedingly well against canelo. However I'm pretty certain that an aggressive canelo would smash through an aggressive maidana. Boxing is great like that.

I personality can't see manny landing frequently enough to outpoint mayweather,  but he could possibly land that mosely punch and finish the job.  Mayweather though has shown he has great powers of recovery,  and has also become more aggressive the more success his opponent has had.  He has yet to enter the trenches, I'm hoping that manny can take him there. If he doesn't then the eventual will be a total let down.

Good summary. Mayweather has had a few very tough fights. He'll never let himself get into the trenches as such, he'll sooner get stopped.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: IrishPaddy on March 20, 2015, 01:19:06 PM
I'm quite comfortable belittling the most brutal and awesome period of Mannys accomplishmets, (08-10 ish), so I can't imagine Paulie worries about doing the same.

"The Illusion" - nobody could ever say it better than that. A blind man on a galloping horse can see what was going on but nobodies summed it up that well before.

Paulie is now an Al Haymon yes man. The guy does ANYTHING for the right price.

Mayweather pays a drug testing company extortionate prices to keep any failed tests out of the public arena, and has previously paid Team Pacquaio an out of court settlement to prevent 3 failed drug tests being released. He is refusing the $5 million dollar drug test fine for the Pacquaio fight. He deliberately didn't make the contracted weight for the Marquez fight, and paid Marquez handsomely for the privilege. He is a convicted woman beater and convicted of threatening his kids.

I'll decide who takes the moral high ground, and who deserves the benefit of the doubt with regard to career accomplishments, on facts.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on March 20, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
Its hilarious that Floyd won't agree to Mannys testing demands :)

Manny has zero respect/fear of Mayweather. I would pick Mayweather to win if my life depended on it but I see Pac giving him huge problems and maybe beating him.

Interesting to see how much the odds are tightening on Pacman too with the Bookies.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Rexo on March 20, 2015, 03:01:36 PM
Its hilarious that Floyd won't agree to Mannys testing demands :)



But why should he? Random blood and urine tests and fines have been agreed in the contract that both fighters signed, it's a ridiculous publicity stunt, not by Manny himself, but by certain individuals around him  //


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 20, 2015, 09:39:20 PM
Pacquiao and undefeated pound-for-pound No 1 Mayweather have already undergone two random drug tests each, conducted by medical officials from the United States Anti Doping Agency.
Pacquiao was first tested while training at the Pan Pacific Park and then again at the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles, while Mayweather is believed to have been tested at his home and at his gym in Las Vegas.

Hopkins: Mayweather will defeat Pacquiao through 'boxing IQ and skills'

Ring legend Bernard Hopkins believes Mayweather may be knocked down early in the fight on May 2 but will go on to defeat Pacquiao on controversial split decision through 'boxing IQ and skills'.

“The first six rounds you’re going to get your money’s worth. Manny Pacquiao has had more early round knockouts in the past five years than Mayweather has had in the past 10 years," he told Boxing Insider. "I see Mayweather being stalked early, getting angles from the southpaw and being knocked down one or two times."

“Floyd Mayweather Jr. will have to dig deep and go to the well on this one, but I believe because of his boxing IQ and skills, he will pull out a close split or maybe controversial decision.”

Mayweather sparring partners include Zab Judah and Demarcus Corley

Alex Ariza, once Pacquiao's strength and conditioning coach, but now with Mayweather, has revealed that the American has been sparring with former opponents Demarcus Corley, the ex-IBF world champion, and Zab Judah, also a former IBF welterweight champion.

Judah and Corley both fought and lost to Mayweather. By some accounts, Mayweather has as many as 10 sparring partners.
Ariza said that Mayweather “is looking very good and despite being only the third week, he is smooth.”


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tuco on March 20, 2015, 10:15:34 PM


“The first six rounds you’re going to get your money’s worth. Manny Pacquiao has had more early round knockouts in the past five years than Mayweather has had in the past 10 years," he told Boxing Insider. "I see Mayweather being stalked early, getting angles from the southpaw and being knocked down one or two times."

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Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: lurkyshaka on March 21, 2015, 07:54:41 AM
The key to beating Mayweather is to change tactics constantly.....EVEN if what you are doing is working! Because he'll adjust to it and once Mayweather has gotten ahead of the opponent in a fight tactically then its hellish trying to stay with him. So you need to keep him guessing with constant changes of tactics.  You cannot dance to his tune, you have to make him dance to yours.....an you need a varied play list!

Although he's obviously a truly exceptional fighter....we have seen fighters have success against Floyd in several different ways. Hatton had some success with quick feet rushing tactics. Cotto had some success with lateral movement and boxing. Maidana had some success with crude roughhousing charges. DeLahoya had success with a jab. Castillo with steady but constant pressure.

Various stuff will work against Floyd, but the key thing is he will adjust and nothing has worked against him consistently over 12 rounds enough for anyone to actually take a 'W'(though I personally feel Castillo deserved the nod first time around and DelaHoya deserved a draw)

Manny does have the capacity for variety and needs to utilise that. Sometimes stepping on the gas and really going for it, sometimes using side to side movement to force Floyd to come after him, sometimes using the in and out bursts. But can't stay in one posture for too long....got to keep changing tact and I don't mean round by round either, I mean mid round, possibly several times per round. Just a signal from the corner and switch. Requires a fighter who is disciplined and truly believes in his corner and a corner with the tactical nouse to know when to switch. Manny and his camp do fit that bill.

Going into this i do feel that Manny will probably get the benefit of the doubt in close rounds, as I feel people have grown tired of Mayweather's arrogance and a win for Manny will be seen as better for the sport.

I think Manny can with the right tactics win a close but probably controversial decision where both sets of fans will think their man deserved it, with the neutrals favouring Manny 60/40.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on March 21, 2015, 06:41:39 PM
The key to beating Mayweather is to change tactics constantly.....EVEN if what you are doing is working! Because he'll adjust to it and once Mayweather has gotten ahead of the opponent in a fight tactically then its hellish trying to stay with him. So you need to keep him guessing with constant changes of tactics.  You cannot dance to his tune, you have to make him dance to yours.....an you need a varied play list!

Although he's obviously a truly exceptional fighter....we have seen fighters have success against Floyd in several different ways. Hatton had some success with quick feet rushing tactics. Cotto had some success with lateral movement and boxing. Maidana had some success with crude roughhousing charges. DeLahoya had success with a jab. Castillo with steady but constant pressure.

Various stuff will work against Floyd, but the key thing is he will adjust and nothing has worked against him consistently over 12 rounds enough for anyone to actually take a 'W'(though I personally feel Castillo deserved the nod first time around and DelaHoya deserved a draw)

Manny does have the capacity for variety and needs to utilise that. Sometimes stepping on the gas and really going for it, sometimes using side to side movement to force Floyd to come after him, sometimes using the in and out bursts. But can't stay in one posture for too long....got to keep changing tact and I don't mean round by round either, I mean mid round, possibly several times per round. Just a signal from the corner and switch. Requires a fighter who is disciplined and truly believes in his corner and a corner with the tactical nouse to know when to switch. Manny and his camp do fit that bill.

Going into this i do feel that Manny will probably get the benefit of the doubt in close rounds, as I feel people have grown tired of Mayweather's arrogance and a win for Manny will be seen as better for the sport.

I think Manny can with the right tactics win a close but probably controversial decision where both sets of fans will think their man deserved it, with the neutrals favouring Manny 60/40.

SPOT ON with what you say is needed to beat Floyd...

The problem is that there isn't a fighter that has the versatility to be able to execute such tactics. Fighters like Mosley, Judah, Cotto, DLH, Hatton, Maidana are very good at what they do but didn't have the variation to keep Floyd guessing so he just works them out, usually within four rounds...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: ralphy on March 21, 2015, 08:02:49 PM
I think people get a bit caught up in the maweather promotional hyperbole. He's a fantastic boxer, no doubt and I pick him to take Manny to pieces in about 8 rounds. However he's not this enigma some folk talk him up as being. De La Hoya was running on empty for the last 3rd of their fight and still should have got a draw at the least. mosley was a gazillion years away from his prime and had floyd on queer street. Had he had anything left in the tank he would most likely have finished the deal.

Then you throw in other fighters - castillo, cotto et al and you can see there are gaps in his armour.

He's an exceptionally talented fighter, certainly the best of his generation, but the best to lace them up? not a chance in my opinion


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on March 21, 2015, 08:28:17 PM
I think people get a bit caught up in the maweather promotional hyperbole. He's a fantastic boxer, no doubt and I pick him to take Manny to pieces in about 8 rounds. However he's not this enigma some folk talk him up as being. De La Hoya was running on empty for the last 3rd of their fight and still should have got a draw at the least. mosley was a gazillion years away from his prime and had floyd on queer street. Had he had anything left in the tank he would most likely have finished the deal.

Then you throw in other fighters - castillo, cotto et al and you can see there are gaps in his armour.

He's an exceptionally talented fighter, certainly the best of his generation, but the best to lace them up? not a chance in my opinion

Not a bad analysis IMO.
Floods biggest issues when stacked against the very best of all time come down to two things:
1) people can call all they want, but he definitely picks his opponent and the timings. The best always fought the best at the right time.
2) he's just not evil enough in the ring. The best of the best have that really nasty spiteful thing about them... Floyd doesn't


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on March 21, 2015, 09:09:48 PM
Mayweather is a good fighter but as a WW he as benefitted of the division being full of smaller men. 15 years ago he would have run into Felix Trinidad not being funny but Trinidad would have wiped the floor with him just the same Leonard would have done 35 years ago. If Paul Williams had fought him at WW he could have easily beaten him but you look at Mayweather's best wins at WW and they are against smaller men Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero and JMM all beaten in there primes but all smaller.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 21, 2015, 10:18:43 PM
Mayweather is a good fighter but as a WW he as benefitted of the division being full of smaller men. 15 years ago he would have run into Felix Trinidad not being funny but Trinidad would have wiped the floor with him just the same Leonard would have done 35 years ago. If Paul Williams had fought him at WW he could have easily beaten him but you look at Mayweather's best wins at WW and they are against smaller men Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero and JMM all beaten in there primes but all smaller.


Only Canelo has looked the goods, but Matt Hatton took him 12 rounds and Miguel Cotto's brother had him in all sorts of grief during the opening round too (Jose?)

(no disrespect to Matt H by the way)

Pacman's offence is a lot deadlier and accurate than Maidana's. His feet and hands are also faster. I'd hazard a guess we might see the best version ever of Pacquiao in his entire career in May. The fact he's said that him and Roach have practised their "mayweather" routine for years, doesn't surprise me and is intriguing. Roach has already said that they are hoping that Mayweather comes and "throws his favourite punch" like they have an instinctive answer when that particular shot is thrown.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: cowboy55 on March 22, 2015, 06:52:20 AM
lets not all get our hopes up.Captain Chickenshit has rejected PacMan's 5million dollar drug test penalty.what is this motherfucker afraid of?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tim2366 on March 22, 2015, 10:10:49 AM
lets not all get our hopes up.Captain Chickenshit has rejected PacMan's 5million dollar drug test penalty.what is this motherfucker afraid of?

This should be standard.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on March 22, 2015, 11:08:36 AM
This should be standard.

Being honest he has every right to reject a $5m penalty as it would derail the biggest fight in history along with the amount of money on the table $5m is fcuk all compared to the hundred's of millions on the table.

Even Arum came out agreeing with Mayweather, as the damages if one of them failed would outweigh the amount Koncz mentioned by a country mile.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: G-man on March 22, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
I think people get a bit caught up in the maweather promotional hyperbole. He's a fantastic boxer, no doubt and I pick him to take Manny to pieces in about 8 rounds. However he's not this enigma some folk talk him up as being. De La Hoya was running on empty for the last 3rd of their fight and still should have got a draw at the least. mosley was a gazillion years away from his prime and had floyd on queer street. Had he had anything left in the tank he would most likely have finished the deal.

Then you throw in other fighters - castillo, cotto et al and you can see there are gaps in his armour.

He's an exceptionally talented fighter, certainly the best of his generation, but the best to lace them up? not a chance in my opinion
Without disagreeing he's not the best ever, is there a fighter in history that hasn't struggled in a fight or not lost cos i can't think of one?

Don't get the love for DLH in their fight either. It was a poor spectacle overall but Floyd picked the cleaner shots all the way through. A lot of Oscar's shots hit arms or air but got the crowd cheering.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 22, 2015, 01:58:33 PM
Without disagreeing he's not the best ever, is there a fighter in history that hasn't struggled in a fight or not lost cos i can't think of one?

Don't get the love for DLH in their fight either. It was a poor spectacle overall but Floyd picked the cleaner shots all the way through. A lot of Oscar's shots hit arms or air but got the crowd cheering.

Joe Calzaghe retired undefeated


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 22, 2015, 02:17:12 PM
The 47-0 isnt as incredible as people make out - Nor is Marcianos record IMO.

I mean Julio Cesar Chavez manage to get to 88-0... but he carried on... all credit to him.

Its just that aura that you never got the satisfaction of seeing that fighter lose.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: G-man on March 22, 2015, 02:21:30 PM
Joe Calzaghe retired undefeated
I know that obviously but he struggled in some fights did he not?

I'd rather be pushed by a fellow HOF'er than Robin Reid or look like i'd been in a car crash after 12 rounds with Sakio Bika.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on March 22, 2015, 02:22:49 PM
Joe Calzaghe retired undefeated

So did Sven Ottke and Terry Marsh  ;D

The 47-0 isnt as incredible as people make out - Nor is Marcianos record IMO.

I mean Julio Cesar Chavez manage to get to 88-0... but he carried on... all credit to him.

JCC fought 50 bums of those 88-0 wins he was gifted wins and fought cab drivers. Floyd's 47 wins are 10 times more valid than Chavez's record up until he fought Whittaker.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: cowboy55 on March 22, 2015, 02:31:07 PM
Being honest he has every right to reject a $5m penalty as it would derail the biggest fight in history along with the amount of money on the table $5m is fcuk all compared to the hundred's of millions on the table.

Even Arum came out agreeing with Mayweather, as the damages if one of them failed would outweigh the amount Koncz mentioned by a country mile.

this douche bag has llready derailed this fight when it should have happened years ago when Pac was in his prime.as for arum agreeing with him his head is so far up PBF's ass his eyes are brown.all I cvan say is,if this fight does eventually happen that Pac beats his arrogant ass into the canvas for good.i'm tired of all the fuckin antics this shit has pulled.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 22, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
I know that obviously but he struggled in some fights did he not?

I'd rather be pushed by a fellow HOF'er than Robin Reid or look like i'd been in a car crash after 12 rounds with Sakio Bika.

I know, but on his record you have Chris Eubamk, RJJ, Hopkins, Jeff Lacy, Kessler.

Many past it when Joe fought them but you can say the same about a lot of mayweathers best wins


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: G-man on March 22, 2015, 04:03:42 PM
I know, but on his record you have Chris Eubamk, RJJ, Hopkins, Jeff Lacy, Kessler.

Many past it when Joe fought them but you can say the same about a lot of mayweathers best wins
I'm not comparing resumes i'm simply saying to counter Ralphy's point that no fighter in history has gone through his career without being beaten or looking like shit in a few fights so it shouldn't be something thrown solely at Floyd when measuring 'greatness'.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 22, 2015, 05:32:38 PM
I'm not comparing resumes i'm simply saying to counter Ralphy's point that no fighter in history has gone through his career without being beaten or looking like shit in a few fights so it shouldn't be something thrown solely at Floyd when measuring 'greatness'.

Sorry mate I misread your original point


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: G-man on March 22, 2015, 06:52:24 PM
Sorry mate I misread your original point
No probs pal, in hindsight i didn't word it very well.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: ralphy on March 22, 2015, 07:06:32 PM
I'm not comparing resumes i'm simply saying to counter Ralphy's point that no fighter in history has gone through his career without being beaten or looking like shit in a few fights so it shouldn't be something thrown solely at Floyd when measuring 'greatness'.

I agree with what you're saying, though you could argue that Floyds career deserves closer scrutiny as he is the one that's claimed himself as the best ever....

Regardless, it wasn't the point I was trying to make - I was simply attempting to highlight that there are flaws in his make-up, as there are with every fighter there ever has been and ever will be :)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on March 23, 2015, 10:47:19 AM
I see there has still not been any mention of when tickets go on sale  //

Less than 6 weeks to the fight and nothing....


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on March 23, 2015, 12:06:34 PM
I see there has still not been any mention of when tickets go on sale  //

Less than 6 weeks to the fight and nothing....

I think we all know the tickets will be withheld to many high rollers will be lured to Vegas on the promise of a ticket to price out any genuine fan.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on March 23, 2015, 12:57:09 PM
I think we all know the tickets will be withheld to many high rollers will be lured to Vegas on the promise of a ticket to price out any genuine fan.

i think you are right, but even a PR to wider public to conform there wont be a general sale would least suffice ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: cowboy55 on March 23, 2015, 03:35:26 PM
I see there has still not been any mention of when tickets go on sale  //

Less than 6 weeks to the fight and nothing....


you can forgewt that daniel.the preciuos few that get them will be offering their mortgage&first born.any remaining tix will be sold through Ticketmaster/StubHub which means the same as the former.i'll watch it at the local cinema


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Hurricane on March 23, 2015, 09:17:01 PM
Just seen that the live gate is expected to be $74m. That would give an average ticket price of nearly $4.5k!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 23, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
Just seen that the live gate is expected to be $74m. That would give an average ticket price of nearly $4.5k!

That is obscene.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 23, 2015, 09:36:12 PM
Bored about the constant talk of money regarding this fight. Fans don't care about that.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Hurricane on March 23, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
Bored about the constant talk of money regarding this fight. Fans don't care about that.

This fight doesn't really have anything to do with what the fans care about and has everything to do with money though.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on March 23, 2015, 10:01:56 PM
This fight doesn't really have anything to do with what the fans care about and has everything to do with money though.

100% correct!   ;)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 24, 2015, 09:16:43 AM
This fight doesn't really have anything to do with what the fans care about and has everything to do with money though.

I know mate, makes it no less boring though.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on March 24, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
You're all gone mad. Every fight is driven by money. Its the only thing that makes good matchups happen. Boxers don't fight for fans, promoters don't promote for fans, managers don't manage for fans.

Everyone needs to get over the bullshit, just enjoy the two best fighters in the world fighting each other. Stop worrying about what they are getting paid, all its costing is circa 25quid for us, thats pretty decent. Especially taking in the shite ppv's people buy in general.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on March 24, 2015, 02:39:30 PM
You're all gone mad. Every fight is driven by money. Its the only thing that makes good matchups happen. Boxers don't fight for fans, promoters don't promote for fans, managers don't manage for fans.

Everyone needs to get over the bullshit, just enjoy the two best fighters in the world fighting each other. Stop worrying about what they are getting paid, all its costing is circa 25quid for us, thats pretty decent. Especially taking in the shite ppv's people buy in general.

Everyone knows it's driven by money, but the constant talk of the money involved is boring and useless.

Either promote the fight and fighters, or don't promote anything. Skysports reporting how such a fighter earned this and the fight will make x amount has got repetitive quickly.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DLINKLA on March 24, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
Confirmed on sky box office at £19.99

Sky Sports Box Office has been awarded exclusive live rights to ‘the fight of the century’, the welterweight world championship unification clash between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, thanks to an agreement announced today.

The contest, one of the most eagerly anticipated events in boxing history, will be shown live from the MGM Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

The event puts together the two of greatest boxers of all time: Floyd Mayweather (47-0-0) the undefeated 11-time world champion and holder of the WBC and WBA titles, and Manny Pacquiao (57-5-2) the reigning WBO welterweight world champion and winner of 10 world titles.

Sky Sports viewers will be able to follow build-up to Mayweather v Pacquiao across its channels and digital media outlets, including access to both boxers’ training camps, press conferences and public appearances.

Barney Francis, Managing Director of Sky Sports, said: “This fight has everything and is set to be one of the biggest sports events of the year.  As the home of boxing in the UK and Republic of Ireland, we’re thrilled to be awarded the rights.

“We’ll provide Sky Sports viewers with the best possible build-up across our channels and outlets and the best coverage of the fight itself from our team in Las Vegas.”

Analysis of the fight will be provided by Adam Smith, former world cruiserweight champion Johnny Nelson and former world lightweight champion Jim Watt, as well as a range of boxing experts. Sky Sports viewers can also enjoy an extensive schedule of support programming providing the best possible analysis of the fight including the weekly magazine programme Ringside, the Ringside Toe 2 Toe podcast series and feature length interviews.

Sky Sports News HQ will be in Las Vegas during the final build-up to bring the latest news and analysis from both camps including the official press conferences, and weigh-in as the two fighters complete their training camps and anticipation reaches fever pitch.

The event is part of a packed month of live sport that Sky Sports viewers can enjoy during May. The schedule includes live coverage of the Barclays Premier League, the Sky Bet Championship and League 1 and 2 Playoffs, Scottish Cup Final, the Spanish and Monaco Grand Prix, golf’s Players Championship from Sawgrass, and rugby league’s Magic Weekend from Newcastle’s St James Park stadium.

The cost of the event will be £19.95 and €24.95 across all forms of booking up until midnight Friday 1 May.  From then on the cost will still be £19.95 / €24.95 if bookings are made via remote control and online, but will cost £24.95 / €29.95 if booked via the phone.  Please note an additional £2 booking fee still applies if bookings are made via a telephone agent.  Cable customers please contact your operator for booking information.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: The Hurricane on March 24, 2015, 03:14:19 PM
£20 isn't really that bad given what they have charged for some PPV's down the years.  By the sounds of it they are going to try and set the record for the amount of people they can get on a jolly to cover a fight though.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on March 24, 2015, 03:25:13 PM
£20 is well worth it considering the prices Americans are having to pay.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: BurnleyHitman on March 24, 2015, 05:44:07 PM
£19.99 is shocking. Didnt even know this was lined up for PPV? Any of Floyd's other defences been PPV? I'm sure it's only been when there's neen UK involvement before?

Assume it will appear on YouTube a week after? That'll do. Glad I have plans, otherwise I would be tempting myself into getting mugged off  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 24, 2015, 06:07:45 PM
£19.99 is shocking. Didnt even know this was lined up for PPV? Any of Floyd's other defences been PPV? I'm sure it's only been when there's neen UK involvement before?

Assume it will appear on YouTube a week after? That'll do. Glad I have plans, otherwise I would be tempting myself into getting mugged off  ;D

Im more shocked that your shocked that it was on PPV  ;D

If there was one fight this millennia, nailed-on to be PPV it's this one chap.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tappers on March 24, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
First time I have posted on this thread.
The fight.....First of all Mayweather is an elite dedicated boxer that obviously already has his place booked in the hall of Fame. He has won titles at different weights although hand picked opponents that are either not at his level or have had losses or problems in recent fights. Don't like him at all as a man and the way he treats people around him especially putting his hand on a woman which disgusts me. This fight is 5 years too late I agree but I think that plays into Pacmans hands.
Mayweather is gonna be ready for this fight like we all know. He is a profesional when it comes to his boxing but I think Pacman is gonna train like a demon. I think Pacman is gonna turn the clock back 3-4 years with his dedication. He knows this is his defining fight as does Mayweather but Mayweather relies on countering and quick defence but is ageing whereas Pacmans is in-out hand speed and power.
For me this fight is in the hands of Pacman......all depends on what Pacman turns up.
On the subject of 19-99 quid for PPV I think that's a fair price for this fight. Just get a few mates together share the cost and watch the fight.
Both fighters skills are diminishing its about who steps up to the plate and has the right game plan on the night.
Enjoy the fight for what it is......not for what it could have been.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 24, 2015, 06:54:56 PM
First time I have posted on this thread.
The fight.....First of all Mayweather is an elite dedicated boxer that obviously already has his place booked in the hall of Fame. He has won titles at different weights although hand picked opponents that are either not at his level or have had losses or problems in recent fights. Don't like him at all as a man and the way he treats people around him especially putting his hand on a woman which disgusts me. This fight is 5 years too late I agree but I think that plays into Pacmans hands.
Mayweather is gonna be ready for this fight like we all know. He is a profesional when it comes to his boxing but I think Pacman is gonna train like a demon. I think Pacman is gonna turn the clock back 3-4 years with his dedication. He knows this is his defining fight as does Mayweather but Mayweather relies on countering and quick defence but is ageing whereas Pacmans is in-out hand speed and power.
For me this fight is in the hands of Pacman......all depends on what Pacman turns up.
On the subject of 19-99 quid for PPV I think that's a fair price for this fight. Just get a few mates together share the cost and watch the fight.
Both fighters skills are diminishing its about who steps up to the plate and has the right game plan on the night.
Enjoy the fight for what it is......not for what it could have been.

Good post,

But i fear that Watt & Halling are going to put their worst shift in of their entire careers.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tappers on March 24, 2015, 07:01:57 PM
RED I agree......But at least where I live I get the Spanish commentary which may not be the best...but....no Jim Watt and Halling!!!
My Sky TV comes from Mexico.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on March 24, 2015, 07:09:29 PM
RED I agree......But at least where I live I get the Spanish commentary which may not be the best...but....no Jim Watt and Halling!!!
My Sky TV comes from Mexico.

I'd genuinely prefer that.

As long as i can hear the punches, the crowd and the corner men - i'm chuffed to bits.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: dmp on March 24, 2015, 08:44:21 PM
ah simbros will have the full Monty on the Sunday morning anyway


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on March 30, 2015, 07:47:09 PM
Anyone who is over, the top rank card the nigth before is on sale.

It has ray beltran headlineing and fighting for the WBO Title

http://www.ticketmaster.com/fight-night-las-vegas-nevada-05-01-2015/event/17004E6DE6685C4E?artistid=821617&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33&tm_link=venue_msg-0_17004E6DE6685C4E (http://www.ticketmaster.com/fight-night-las-vegas-nevada-05-01-2015/event/17004E6DE6685C4E?artistid=821617&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33&tm_link=venue_msg-0_17004E6DE6685C4E)



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on March 30, 2015, 07:53:13 PM
Im more shocked that your shocked that it was on PPV  ;D

If there was one fight this millennia, nailed-on to be PPV it's this one chap.

I'm sure there must be some countries that get this fight aired for free. Countries where neither are household names. If it wasn't for Hatton not many would know who they are in the uk.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on March 31, 2015, 02:53:38 AM
I'm sure there must be some countries that get this fight aired for free. Countries where neither are household names. If it wasn't for Hatton not many would no who they are in the uk.

South africa don't have a PPV platform. Both mannys and floyds fights in the last 2 years have been free. Don't know if they have this one yet.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on March 31, 2015, 01:35:49 PM
I'm sure there must be some countries that get this fight aired for free. Countries where neither are household names. If it wasn't for Hatton not many would know who they are in the uk.

I'd imagine its on Network TV in the Phillipines.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: unknown on March 31, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cFRRvRC.jpg)

hope to recover some of that shit load of money spent buying litecoin.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on March 31, 2015, 09:05:15 PM
Paulie Malignaggi talks how Manny Pacquiao can defeat Floyd Mayweather. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lKDwU2JhbA#ws)

Good to hear Sky have offered Paulie commetary if he doesn't want to be analyst on Showtime.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on April 01, 2015, 07:34:38 AM
Paulie Malignaggi talks how Manny Pacquiao can defeat Floyd Mayweather. ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lKDwU2JhbA#ws[/url])

Good to hear Sky have offered Paulie commetary if he doesn't want to be analyst on Showtime.


One question.  Why the fooking dark glasses indoors?  After all, he's not David Haye, is he?  We can deal with the diamanté ear studs later maybe.   //


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on April 01, 2015, 08:04:25 AM
Two types of people wear sunglasses indoors Bonters.

Blind people and arseholes.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: cloughie on April 01, 2015, 08:59:18 AM
and Cotto


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on April 01, 2015, 09:32:22 AM
Two types of people wear sunglasses indoors Bonters.

Blind people and arseholes.

The eyes can tell a thousand stories. Sometimes it's best those stories don't get told my friend


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: essemk on April 01, 2015, 10:02:01 AM
Anyone who is over, the top rank card the nigth before is on sale.

It has ray beltran headlineing and fighting for the WBO Title

[url]http://www.ticketmaster.com/fight-night-las-vegas-nevada-05-01-2015/event/17004E6DE6685C4E?artistid=821617&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33&tm_link=venue_msg-0_17004E6DE6685C4E[/url] ([url]http://www.ticketmaster.com/fight-night-las-vegas-nevada-05-01-2015/event/17004E6DE6685C4E?artistid=821617&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33&tm_link=venue_msg-0_17004E6DE6685C4E[/url])

Thanks for that Alba.
I had heard there was a possibility of a show that night , but didn't see any thing to confirm it. I have booked six seats last night and got row 7 ringside floor 2. So I guess it may not be a big seller , but we are in Vegas with little chance of getting in to see FMJ , so this is a good consolation prize. tickets were only 100 dollars.




Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 01, 2015, 11:27:56 AM


we got row 8 mate ...

i still dont know what is happening with the main fight,im getting a tad peed of waiting to get tickets for the screening...

there is suppose to be a card in the palms on the thursday from Mayweather Promotions .... but cant see tickets yet for that ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 02, 2015, 03:02:49 PM
Supersport announced today they have picked up the fight. For free!!! Result.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 02, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
and Cotto

He's different.




Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: essemk on April 03, 2015, 05:12:23 PM
we got row 8 mate ...

i still dont know what is happening with the main fight,im getting a tad peed of waiting to get tickets for the screening...

there is suppose to be a card in the palms on the thursday from Mayweather Promotions .... but cant see tickets yet for that ...

Six of us in row 7  seats 10- 15. floor 2.
Hope to see you there.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 04, 2015, 09:05:12 PM
No info yet about closed circuit tickets. Any of ye that are heading over, hear any info regards tickets. Could be a right balls making a cpl thousand mile round trip and not see the fight. The promotion to this seems ragged and its like it has been rushed esp with 4 weeks out.

There could be alot of unhappy campers in Vegas that weekend with an expected 500k flying in for the fight and only the 12mgm properties showing the fight


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: motoriser on April 05, 2015, 11:19:48 AM
First time I have posted on this thread.
The fight.....First of all Mayweather is an elite dedicated boxer that obviously already has his place booked in the hall of Fame. He has won titles at different weights although hand picked opponents that are either not at his level or have had losses or problems in recent fights. Don't like him at all as a man and the way he treats people around him especially putting his hand on a woman which disgusts me. This fight is 5 years too late I agree but I think that plays into Pacmans hands.
Mayweather is gonna be ready for this fight like we all know. He is a profesional when it comes to his boxing but I think Pacman is gonna train like a demon. I think Pacman is gonna turn the clock back 3-4 years with his dedication. He knows this is his defining fight as does Mayweather but Mayweather relies on countering and quick defence but is ageing whereas Pacmans is in-out hand speed and power.
For me this fight is in the hands of Pacman......all depends on what Pacman turns up.
On the subject of 19-99 quid for PPV I think that's a fair price for this fight. Just get a few mates together share the cost and watch the fight.
Both fighters skills are diminishing its about who steps up to the plate and has the right game plan on the night.
Enjoy the fight for what it is......not for what it could have been.
Ambush fighters have a shorter shelf life than defensive fighters.
This fight will somewhat mimick the Jack Johnson vs Jim Jeffries fight.It was Big on hype,Nationalism,Box Office appeal but the fight itself was not close.
Manny has no jab,plus the 7 inch reach deficit will be his biggest downfall as Floyd will have no problems controlling distance.Floyd throws a variety of shots that Manny has biggest weakness for ie Jab,straight right,overhand right,uppercut,jabs to the solar plexus that can suck out steam from a conditioned fighter.Finally add the Ghost of Marquez and Manny will avoid jumping in too much coz he could walk into another right hand counter that could put him to sleep again. Much like people hated Jack Johnson and wanted him to lose,he was too smart to lose to Jeffries.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on April 05, 2015, 11:29:47 AM
No info yet about closed circuit tickets. Any of ye that are heading over, hear any info regards tickets. Could be a right balls making a cpl thousand mile round trip and not see the fight. The promotion to this seems ragged and its like it has been rushed esp with 4 weeks out.

There could be alot of unhappy campers in Vegas that weekend with an expected 500k flying in for the fight and only the 12mgm properties showing the fight
I think 500k is pushing it. I imagine tickets for the cctv will be easy enough to get hold of


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 05, 2015, 01:07:24 PM
I think 500k is pushing it. I imagine tickets for the cctv will be easy enough to get hold of

Heard off twitter there is a general sale next week, not sure of the day or if it's certain though. Tracey from here told me and it's the first I'd heard of it.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 05, 2015, 07:53:08 PM
I think 500k is pushing it. I imagine tickets for the cctv will be easy enough to get hold of

I hope your right, I did read in article that they expected that amount to descend into the city and if you factor in that only the mgm properties can screen the fight I can only assume that it will be not that easy to get even CCTV tickets


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on April 06, 2015, 04:55:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/_f1h0yFzigc (https://www.youtube.com/embed/_f1h0yFzigc)  Official commercial


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: 7777 on April 06, 2015, 06:48:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/_f1h0yFzigc (https://www.youtube.com/embed/_f1h0yFzigc)  Official commercial

Manny looks small enough that Floyd is looking past him on what must have been a green screen. Floyd also looks in phenomenal condition for his age

Round one to Mayweather  :-X ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on April 07, 2015, 02:43:33 AM
Manny looks small enough that Floyd is looking past him on what must have been a green screen. Floyd also looks in phenomenal condition for his age

Round one to Mayweather  :-X ;D

Both guys look in great shape to be fair which is what this fight deserves.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on April 07, 2015, 10:02:58 AM
Heres what id do if i was going ..

Take your laptop, wire it to your room in suite, get your 10 mates round, watch the fight whilst 'partying' vegas style for free via laptop..

Head back down to zuri to carry on partying..

Sorted


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 07, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
I just find it very strange that there has been no announcement sale of tickets, cctv tickets, weigh in information if it will be open to the public or ticketed also....just no info what so ever!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on April 07, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
I just find it very strange that there has been no announcement sale of tickets, cctv tickets, weigh in information if it will be open to the public or ticketed also....just no info what so ever!
I think this will put a lot of people off travelling. For Hatton v Mayweather people went thinking they may get a ticket. For this people have no chance of seeing it live at MGM so I think people won't bother


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 07, 2015, 11:18:51 AM
I think this will put a lot of people off travelling. For Hatton v Mayweather people went thinking they may get a ticket. For this people have no chance of seeing it live at MGM so I think people won't bother

That is the thing, its all good being there knowing you wont see it in the arena but also the possability of not seeing it at all on TV at the CCTV viewings would put alot of people off.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on April 07, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
That is the thing, its all good being there knowing you wont see it in the arena but also the possability of not seeing it at all on TV at the CCTV viewings would put alot of people off.
I remember being there about a month before Oscar v Manny and they were promoting the CCTV massively in every MGM hotel. This time there is nothing


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 07, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
This fight has been building for 5years now, the dogs on the street know it's happening there's no need for all the advertising.. Everyone is going to be watching


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 07, 2015, 01:51:59 PM
Nobody going to pay the tout price?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 07, 2015, 02:39:27 PM
Nobody going to pay the tout price?

Already have through viagogo  :-X still trying to calm the missus down as we speak.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 07, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
Already have through viagogo  :-X still trying to calm the missus down as we speak.

How much?  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 07, 2015, 02:55:39 PM
How much?  ;D

First number is a 4 anyway haha. She managed to get her paws on the statement before I got there so you can imagine the uproar, plus her realising that was only for 1 ticket then things got slightly worse  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 07, 2015, 03:21:06 PM
First number is a 4 anyway haha. She managed to get her paws on the statement before I got there so you can imagine the uproar, plus her realising that was only for 1 ticket then things got slightly worse  ;D

 ;D what a guy!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 07, 2015, 03:25:43 PM
;D what a guy!

Sure she has something up her sleeve no doubt, I am fully expecting to have to pay out on shoes/ handbags in Vegas as there is no way I am getting off scot free with this  ;D

She didnt take too kindly to me saying its a once in a life time thing and that I cant take the money with me when I am dead so be aswell spend it haha


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on April 07, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
Sure she has something up her sleeve no doubt, I am fully expecting to have to pay out on shoes/ handbags in Vegas as there is no way I am getting off scot free with this  ;D

She didnt take too kindly to me saying its a once in a life time thing and that I cant take the money with me when I am dead so be aswell spend it haha

Cmon mate spill the ££ so we can all take the piss that youve wasted your money whilst secretly wishing we were going


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 07, 2015, 04:39:40 PM
Sure she has something up her sleeve no doubt, I am fully expecting to have to pay out on shoes/ handbags in Vegas as there is no way I am getting off scot free with this  ;D

She didnt take too kindly to me saying its a once in a life time thing and that I cant take the money with me when I am dead so be aswell spend it haha

You might double your money there on the night if you change your mind.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 07, 2015, 05:46:07 PM
You might double your money there on the night if you change your mind.

Well since buying the ticket I have started to get the thought in my head about potentially selling when out there if I come across someone who would be willing to pay near enough double but what chances is there of someone paying almost £10k for a $1500 ticket?? I wouldnt think much to be fair but you never know


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on April 07, 2015, 06:37:02 PM
Well since buying the ticket I have started to get the thought in my head about potentially selling when out there if I come across someone who would be willing to pay near enough double but what chances is there of someone paying almost £10k for a $1500 ticket?? I wouldnt think much to be fair but you never know

I think drunk bravado and the atmosphere in Vegas will mean someone pays £10k I reckon.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 07, 2015, 06:55:35 PM
Well since buying the ticket I have started to get the thought in my head about potentially selling when out there if I come across someone who would be willing to pay near enough double but what chances is there of someone paying almost £10k for a $1500 ticket?? I wouldnt think much to be fair but you never know

So come on,how much did you pay?

Whatever you paid, well done mate. im jealous.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 07, 2015, 08:48:17 PM
So come on,how much did you pay?

Whatever you paid, well done mate. im jealous.

Paid just under £4800 mate  :-X I keep trying to say it over and over in my head that its a once in a lifetime event sort of thing but the more and more the days go by I just think its going to be a major let down, Mayweather jabbing and moving for 36 minutes to an easy victory and that will be that.

At this moment in time, I have a ticket, I am there all week for the build up and the atmosphere but if some drunken tube is willing to pay 10k for the ticket on fight night I will have to severely give it consideration.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 07, 2015, 08:51:49 PM
Paid just under £4800 mate  :-X I keep trying to say it over and over in my head that its a once in a lifetime event sort of thing but the more and more the days go by I just think its going to be a major let down, Mayweather jabbing and moving for 36 minutes to an easy victory and that will be that.

At this moment in time, I have a ticket, I am there all week for the build up and the atmosphere but if some drunken tube is willing to pay 10k for the ticket on fight night I will have to severely give it consideration.

if you can afford it mate, then dont sweat it. It is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Im going over, nae tickets, but looking for a cctv ticket... cannae wait. going to be amazing.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 07, 2015, 11:18:19 PM
Paid just under £4800 mate  :-X I keep trying to say it over and over in my head that its a once in a lifetime event sort of thing but the more and more the days go by I just think its going to be a major let down, Mayweather jabbing and moving for 36 minutes to an easy victory and that will be that.

At this moment in time, I have a ticket, I am there all week for the build up and the atmosphere but if some drunken tube is willing to pay 10k for the ticket on fight night I will have to severely give it consideration.

Are you not at all worried that the ticket may not be genuine, given that they have not gone on sale yet. I wish i was going but i don't have an imagination that can conjure up a fight scenario that i could leave the arena thinking that was worth the ticket price. The closest i can come up with is hagler v hearns but for 11 rounds and 2 mins followed by a brutal KO. Well done in securing a ticket you are the envy of the forum no doubt.

I remember the joy from forum members on the day they managed to secure a hatton v mayweather ticket on the previous website. There were a lot of happy people that day.... and even those who were unlucky were getting tickets from other members.

If it does turn out to be a hagler v hearns  II, you'll earn back the 4.8k one day and will be left with an outstanding irreplaceable memory of a future classic sporting event. Good luck.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 08, 2015, 05:26:26 AM
Are you not at all worried that the ticket may not be genuine, given that they have not gone on sale yet. I wish i was going but i don't have an imagination that can conjure up a fight scenario that i could leave the arena thinking that was worth the ticket price. The closest i can come up with is hagler v hearns but for 11 rounds and 2 mins followed by a brutal KO. Well done in securing a ticket you are the envy of the forum no doubt.

I remember the joy from forum members on the day they managed to secure a hatton v mayweather ticket on the previous website. There were a lot of happy people that day.... and even those who were unlucky were getting tickets from other members.

If it does turn out to be a hagler v hearns  II, you'll earn back the 4.8k one day and will be left with an outstanding irreplaceable memory of a future classic sporting event. Good luck.

I am fully aware tickets have not gone on sale to the general public as of yet but this was discussed with the Rep @ Viagogo when I was looking into purchasing. I asked numerous questions over and over and said that I needed to be 1000% sure that if I was parting with that sort of sum of money then I need guarantees.

Cannot fault the guy anymore he was superb, he gave me more information than I have had before when using Viagogo (El Classico tickets a year or so back) he advised that Viagogo will have a VIP stand in the MGM from the friday onwards to collect tickets.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 08, 2015, 06:56:19 AM
I am fully aware tickets have not gone on sale to the general public as of yet but this was discussed with the Rep @ Viagogo when I was looking into purchasing. I asked numerous questions over and over and said that I needed to be 1000% sure that if I was parting with that sort of sum of money then I need guarantees.

Cannot fault the guy anymore he was superb, he gave me more information than I have had before when using Viagogo (El Classico tickets a year or so back) he advised that Viagogo will have a VIP stand in the MGM from the friday onwards to collect tickets.

Fantastic. At around $7200 do you know where the VIP stand is in the arena ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 08, 2015, 07:53:27 AM
Fantastic. At around $7200 do you know where the VIP stand is in the arena ?

No but that information will be made available to me on Fight Week as per the email I received from them.

Hey if I pay the money and dont get a ticket, fine as it was paid on the credit card so can claim it back, no skin off my nose, sure I will still enjoy myself none the less mate.

And for your information its actually $6300  ;)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on April 08, 2015, 10:03:31 AM
I aint tight but i just could not justify going this May..

Ive done may bank holiday for years, there's usually a group of us, F*ck me i even got married on the date last year in Vegas but the insane prices cant be justified..

Drink prices will be double in the Zuri, They wanted 2k for four nights in the Trop last time i checked (I'd not stay in the shit hole but using as an example), ytables in the clubs are double (they cost about $$6k min as it was) the flights aint to bad (though more than usual) and regardless of what people say the crowds will be f***ing horrendous.. Ive done enough Floyd fights to see it getting progressively worse, F*ck me theres been shootings in the MGM straight after the fight on the last 2 occasions.. All the LA gangs will be there in force..

Just not willing to be ripped off like that and thats before i add 2 tickets onto the price..

Ive booked into one of top 3 5star hotels in Dubai and have opted for that for 5 nights instead for a fraction of the price it would of cost (half the journey time as well)

I have a couple of friends out there so i will catch the fight..

4/5 years ago i would of given my left arm for this fight, Ive been dying for Floyd to shut those obsessive Filipinos out but im quite content to do that from a bar in Dubai on this occasion then blag my missis to go in Sept :-) 

Its principle of the matter, not cant more wont afford..

Its a f***ing con
   


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 08, 2015, 05:13:52 PM
http://www.boxingscene.com/photo-floyd-mayweather-makes-30-day-weight-1505--89484 (http://www.boxingscene.com/photo-floyd-mayweather-makes-30-day-weight-1505--89484)

30 Day Weigh in - Mayweather 150.5lbs

No mention of Pacquaio's weight yet, Looks like he has got a bit more muscle to him.



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 08, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
In terms of styles the fight now will be pretty similar to what it would have been five years ago, anyone expecting a blood and guys brawl should save there cash.

Im lucky enough to have a ticket, and I'll consider myself just as lucky to be there now as I would have in 09/10. 

Getting to watch floyd or manny as a boxing fan is the ultimate in this day and age, to see them face off against each other is still the ultimate.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: stevenmason on April 08, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
I can't justify spending over 4 grand for a 36 minute boxing match, however much of a fan I am, but to each their own. Good luck to you.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 09, 2015, 06:16:45 AM
In terms of styles the fight now will be pretty similar to what it would have been five years ago, anyone expecting a blood and guys brawl should save there cash.

Im lucky enough to have a ticket, and I'll consider myself just as lucky to be there now as I would have in 09/10. 

Getting to watch floyd or manny as a boxing fan is the ultimate in this day and age, to see them face off against each other is still the ultimate.

did you buy it or get it through a host?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 09, 2015, 11:38:14 AM
did you buy it or get it through a host?

A mate has sorted them.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 10, 2015, 07:17:24 PM
$150 for closed circuit tickets.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 10, 2015, 09:47:25 PM
$150 for closed circuit tickets.

Ouch!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: dmp on April 10, 2015, 09:51:54 PM
In terms of styles the fight now will be pretty similar to what it would have been five years ago, anyone expecting a blood and guys brawl should save there cash.

Im lucky enough to have a ticket, and I'll consider myself just as lucky to be there now as I would have in 09/10. 

Getting to watch floyd or manny as a boxing fan is the ultimate in this day and age, to see them face off against each other is still the ultimate.

have great time Arron
you lucky man  put your money on a floyd ko  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 10, 2015, 11:44:53 PM
have great time Arron
you lucky man  put your money on a floyd ko  ;D

Cheers mate.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on April 11, 2015, 03:31:28 AM
In terms of styles the fight now will be pretty similar to what it would have been five years ago, anyone expecting a blood and guys brawl should save there cash.

Im lucky enough to have a ticket, and I'll consider myself just as lucky to be there now as I would have in 09/10. 

Getting to watch floyd or manny as a boxing fan is the ultimate in this day and age, to see them face off against each other is still the ultimate.

Enjoy mate wish i was joining you again!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on April 11, 2015, 08:57:17 AM
$150 for closed circuit tickets.
Any links for tickets?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 11, 2015, 08:59:41 AM
Any links for tickets?

no on sale, i did get offered this thoug  ;D

dunno what to make of it

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquaio-fight-party-of-the-century-in-fabulous-las-vegas-5215-tickets-16374876697?ref=enivtefor001&invite=NzczNDc1NC9xdWU1MDQwQGdtYWlsLmNvbS8w&utm_source=eb_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=inviteformalv2&ref=enivtefor001&utm_term=attend (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquaio-fight-party-of-the-century-in-fabulous-las-vegas-5215-tickets-16374876697?ref=enivtefor001&invite=NzczNDc1NC9xdWU1MDQwQGdtYWlsLmNvbS8w&utm_source=eb_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=inviteformalv2&ref=enivtefor001&utm_term=attend)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 11, 2015, 09:48:37 AM
Santa Cruz on the undercard no doubt vs another soft opponent.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: 7777 on April 11, 2015, 09:54:10 AM
Santa Cruz on the undercard no doubt vs another soft opponent.

I'd piss if it was Frampton or Quigg


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Keegan Jacobs on April 11, 2015, 04:48:20 PM
Equally has mayweather ever fought anyone with the hand speed of pacquaio or someone with the shot selection of pac? You would have to go back as far as Judah as the last really fast guy he's faced and we know how he struggled there. Maidana was exceptionally slow and he struggled badly in the first fight. Pacquiao also has exceptional footwork, how will he cope with that?

Manny is all wrong for Floyd also.


I find it funny when peeps mention floyd struggled vs zab. I have looked at that fight many times and i only gave zab 2 rounds, and that was in the beginning of the fights where some say zab was getting him. I watch fights on replay muting the announcers since they have never been in the ring.

Maidana fight was a brawl but i also had a easy win for floyd in that fight as well since i only look for punches that land and are effective punches.

It will be a great fight and i can't wait.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: 7777 on April 11, 2015, 05:04:41 PM
I find it funny when peeps mention floyd struggled vs zab. I have looked at that fight many times and i only gave zab 2 rounds, and that was in the beginning of the fights where some say zab was getting him. I watch fights on replay muting the announcers since they have never been in the ring.

Maidana fight was a brawl but i also had a easy win for floyd in that fight as well since i only look for punches that land and are effective punches.

It will be a great fight and i can't wait.

I haven't watched it many times but I don't remember Floyd being in any sort of trouble. Zab had a bit of success early on but nothing that made me think he was the answer to the 'problem'



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Keegan Jacobs on April 11, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
I haven't watched it many times but I don't remember Floyd being in any sort of trouble. Zab had a bit of success early on but nothing that made me think he was the answer to the 'problem'



Yup i agree, i actually had it 3 rds floyd, 2 rds zab, 1 draw in the early going.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 11, 2015, 07:02:22 PM
Yup i agree, i actually had it 3 rds floyd, 2 rds zab, 1 draw in the early going.

Remind me again, did floyd do a drugs test for that fight ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Keegan Jacobs on April 11, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
Remind me again, did floyd do a drugs test for that fight ?

All fights, drug test is a must before and after.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 11, 2015, 08:20:35 PM
All fights, drug test is a must before and after.

thanks for clarifying that ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 11, 2015, 09:58:08 PM
All fights, drug test is a must before and after.

Did you hear the story about Floyds apparent three failed test and him paying off pac outside court??


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on April 11, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
Did you hear the story about Floyds apparent three failed test and him paying off pac outside court??

Pro athletes don't take drugs.
True story


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 11, 2015, 11:12:44 PM
Pro athletes don't take drugs.
True story

Absolutely not Jim :)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 12, 2015, 06:07:21 AM
Heard some places charging over 300 dollars for CCTV tickets!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: tweetstreet on April 12, 2015, 07:15:41 AM
Just a thought that popped in to my head, I'm guessing that it's uncle roger that takes floyd on pads these days as I remember Hatton saying that floyd senior couldn't do southpaw pads with him when he had him as trainer for the PAC fight....


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 12, 2015, 07:30:34 AM
Heard some places charging over 300 dollars for CCTV tickets!

and charging for the weigh inn?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 12, 2015, 07:44:17 AM
and charging for the weigh inn?

Yeah, tickets even for that will be like rocking horse shit.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 12, 2015, 01:38:33 PM
Heard some places charging over 300 dollars for CCTV tickets!

Where have you heard that mate, its a bloody joke just shows mayweather promotions can't promote a fight, under 3 weeks out and so many things still up in the air


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on April 12, 2015, 02:30:56 PM
Just saw the first advert for the PPV on Sky - £19.95 if booked in advance.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on April 12, 2015, 02:50:41 PM
Just a thought that popped in to my head, I'm guessing that it's uncle roger that takes floyd on pads these days as I remember Hatton saying that floyd senior couldn't do southpaw pads with him when he had him as trainer for the PAC fight....

I'm sure it's still Roger that does the pads with Floyd and Sr just oversee's all the training.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 13, 2015, 05:41:12 AM
Tickets for the actual fight go on sale this week. When asked how many will be available to the general public, Ellerbe said "Quite a few."


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 13, 2015, 07:14:04 AM
Tickets for the actual fight go on sale this week. When asked how many will be available to the general public, Ellerbe said "Quite a few."

Will they announce a time/date or will it just be random?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 13, 2015, 08:31:28 AM
Will they announce a time/date or will it just be random?

So far they are refusing to say which day.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 13, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Will they announce a time/date or will it just be random?

it will be random i bet, then they can limit the stories about how folk were trying to get tickets and didng get tyhem etc .... its a farce, im looking forwasrd to goign over but the way both promotors have treated the punters is scandelous


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: vaughny on April 16, 2015, 10:53:12 AM
Any news on CCTV tickets would be appreciated.  Has any further info been released yet?  Thanks


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 18, 2015, 07:54:02 AM
http://www.ticketmaster.com/mayweather-promotions-boxing-smith-vs-mccalla-las-vegas-nevada-04-30-2015/event/17004E90EFF54F3A?artistid=2114349&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33&tm_link=artist_msg-0_17004E90EFF54F3A (http://www.ticketmaster.com/mayweather-promotions-boxing-smith-vs-mccalla-las-vegas-nevada-04-30-2015/event/17004E90EFF54F3A?artistid=2114349&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33&tm_link=artist_msg-0_17004E90EFF54F3A)

Thursday  night boxing


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DLINKLA on April 18, 2015, 11:04:50 AM
Didn't look like tickets went on sale


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AndyE on April 18, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
How many tickets are we realistically going to see go on general sale... My bet is very few. The MGM will be packed full of people who had their tickets guaranteed on announcement of the fight; glad I didn't spend the money to go over this time not even worth the risk for a ticket. I believe I heard Froch say in an interview he has a ticket secured?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 18, 2015, 05:08:00 PM
How many tickets are we realistically going to see go on general sale... My bet is very few. The MGM will be packed full of people who had their tickets guaranteed on announcement of the fight; glad I didn't spend the money to go over this time not even worth the risk for a ticket. I believe I heard Froch say in an interview he has a ticket secured?

i am going over, will get a cctv ticket eventually, but the lack if tickets for anything is pretty frustrating


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 18, 2015, 06:51:19 PM
Alba I'm a bit worried regards the cctv tickets, bunce had an article in the independent saying that some tout sites are looking for $800. I have been messaging the mgm hotels and they said the said they should have news before the weekend ends. Kind of regretting booking now. Its an event for the rich, people who wouldn't have never supported any other boxing event in their lives, and the guys who are the lifeblood of the sport are being thrown to one side.
I hate to think I could travel a few thousand miles and struggle to find some place to watch it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/floyd-mayweather-vs-manny-pacquiao-where-are-the-tickets-for-the-fight-10186161.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/floyd-mayweather-vs-manny-pacquiao-where-are-the-tickets-for-the-fight-10186161.html)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 18, 2015, 07:15:17 PM
Alba I'm a bit worried regards the cctv tickets, bunce had an article in the independent saying that some tout sites are looking for $800. I have been messaging the mgm hotels and they said the said they should have news before the weekend ends. Kind of regretting booking now. Its an event for the rich, people who wouldn't have never supported any other boxing event in their lives, and the guys who are the lifeblood of the sport are being thrown to one side.
I hate to think I could travel a few thousand miles and struggle to find some place to watch it.

[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/floyd-mayweather-vs-manny-pacquiao-where-are-the-tickets-for-the-fight-10186161.html[/url] ([url]http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/floyd-mayweather-vs-manny-pacquiao-where-are-the-tickets-for-the-fight-10186161.html[/url])


i know mate i feel your pain, i have got a few back up plans for if the cctv doesn't come off, but im hearing that there using the theatres in the mgm hotels for the cctv, so it will be an increase in space...  how many you got in your party? we were thinking about sounding out the possibility of going for something that includes a bar/snaks if its possible and it might be possible and better VFM if there is a bigger group? might be pie in the sky but you never know


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 18, 2015, 07:25:11 PM
Will none of the pubs/bars in the old town be showing it?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on April 18, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Will none of the pubs/bars in the old town be showing it?

No ..

@alba. Snacks? It'll be rowdy as F*ck I can't see them serving snacks in any of the places they show it..



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 18, 2015, 09:43:46 PM
No ..

@alba. Snacks? It'll be rowdy as F*ck I can't see them serving snacks in any of the places they show it..



a mans got to eat...  ;D

if anyones rowdy, i will politely ask them to refrain from roughian behaviour


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 18, 2015, 09:50:34 PM
If it's the biggest fight of the century or whatever Is up for debate. What is not up for debate is if it is the worst organised. Absolutely pathetic the messing about.

People have paid thousands and are questioning if they'll even see it at all.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 18, 2015, 10:06:45 PM
If it's the biggest fight of the century or whatever Is up for debate. What is not up for debate is if it is the worst organised. Absolutely pathetic the messing about.

People have paid thousands and are questioning if they'll even see it at all.

im just going to read the round by rounds on twitter .


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 19, 2015, 07:56:30 AM
im just going to read the round by rounds on twitter .

If you have Internet access surely the last resort is to pay for a decent HD stream. Or have the vegas hotels prevented wifi access for its guests.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 19, 2015, 10:43:12 AM
I was thinking that while it is far from ideal, could you not book the fight in your hotel room over there?

Don't know if people would want too and then head out afterwards but was just a thought.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 19, 2015, 12:23:46 PM
No I asked the hotel could you order fight in your room and they said no


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Socrates on April 19, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
The closer this gets the more delighted I am that I'm not going.

I think he's a fabulous fighter but I've had enough of Mayweather and his whole TMT Schtick outside the ring.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on April 19, 2015, 03:53:43 PM
The closer this gets the more delighted I am that I'm not going.

I think he's a fabulous fighter but I've had enough of Mayweather and his whole TMT Schtick outside the ring.

Touché


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 19, 2015, 06:31:58 PM
Anyone follow Steve Kim on Twitter. Saying some interesting stuff about tickets. He says the brokers have run out of patience with the way the ticket situation has been handled and they are not bidding for tickets. Says they're likely to drop like a stone in price come fight week.



Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 19, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
Anyone follow Steve Kim on Twitter. Saying some interesting stuff about tickets. He says the brokers have run out of patience with the way the ticket situation has been handled and they are not bidding for tickets. Says they're likely to drop like a stone in price come fight week.



as much as brokers are leaches i can understand there patientce running out


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Boeing787 on April 19, 2015, 07:12:42 PM
Anyone happen to have a link to the HBO build up program about manny Pacquiao which aired last night?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 19, 2015, 08:52:04 PM
as much as brokers are leaches i can understand there patientce running out

Brokers getting shafted is one small positive out of this farce.

Would worry a little for those who have used them though, I think many might have sold tickets they thought they would get but now won't.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 20, 2015, 12:25:52 AM
Haha. The biggest sporting event in history where only the very wealthy attend and the ticket brokers/touts are frozen out. I love it. Payback is a bitch.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Bonters on April 20, 2015, 05:58:03 AM
I've heard that they're flying Ray Hatton out there to organise a last minute ticket ballot!   ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: TC on April 20, 2015, 08:43:49 AM
Hah.

It's utterly ridiculous that they limit how you can watch the fight on TV in vegas. Pure greed in what should be a celebration of boxing and an amazing night for everyone in Vegas.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 20, 2015, 10:17:53 AM
I just find it totally amazing that no fight tickets, no CCTV tickets and no weigh in tickets are on sale when the fight is 12 days away. I have not even seen anything advertised online with clubs/ bars offering any promotions of viewing the fight/ drinks/ food offers....its rather poor for what is the biggest fight ever.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 20, 2015, 10:29:18 AM
I just find it totally amazing that no fight tickets, no CCTV tickets and no weigh in tickets are on sale when the fight is 12 days away. I have not even seen anything advertised online with clubs/ bars offering any promotions of viewing the fight/ drinks/ food offers....its rather poor for what is the biggest fight ever.

Blame mayweather promotions. Shambles

Top rank and golden boy don't operate this way


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 20, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
I feel sorry for anyone that made the effort to go. Some people treated this as a trip of a lifetime and are getting shitted on.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 20, 2015, 10:39:34 AM
Blame mayweather promotions. Shambles

Top rank and golden boy don't operate this way

Cannot argue with that comment. I understand Mayweather and TMT/ Mayweather Promotions wanting to be the A-Side in this promotion but god they should have let TR to sort out the small things such as these issues and also the promotion side as you would of expected alot more promotional build up than this.

God even Sky Sports are hyping this more than I have seen from anything state side.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 20, 2015, 11:43:00 AM
I just find it totally amazing that no fight tickets, no CCTV tickets and no weigh in tickets are on sale when the fight is 12 days away. I have not even seen anything advertised online with clubs/ bars offering any promotions of viewing the fight/ drinks/ food offers....its rather poor for what is the biggest fight ever.

I've been relentless looking cause I don't think at this stage I will eve get cctv tickets as I am reading on vegas forums that the cctv tickets are being offered to medium rank to low rollers who have a relationship with the casinos .... so what are the chances of even a general sale for cctv?

I have found a few off strip.options as a back up plan ... Some with open bar in life some just in a bar ...am pissed off a bit but still getting a week in vegas with my wife and mates .


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on April 20, 2015, 12:52:42 PM
Wish i was staying at a plush place with a comped ticket..

Ah to dream  //


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on April 20, 2015, 02:12:58 PM
Floyd needs to get rid of Ellerbe from the promotional side of things by all means keep him as an advisor but get rid of him from Mayweather promotions and get someone in like Schaefer who knows how to run a promotional stable although that might not be good with Schaefer's reluctance to work with certain people.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 20, 2015, 02:14:30 PM
Floyd needs to get rid of Ellerbe from the promotional side of things by all means keep him as an advisor but get rid of him from Mayweather promotions and get someone in like Schaefer who knows how to run a promotional stable although that might not be good with Schaefer's reluctance to work with certain people.

He doesn't have a stable, the stable is floyd


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 20, 2015, 02:19:15 PM
Floyd needs to get rid of Ellerbe from the promotional side of things by all means keep him as an advisor but get rid of him from Mayweather promotions and get someone in like Schaefer who knows how to run a promotional stable although that might not be good with Schaefer's reluctance to work with certain people.

Thing is, Schaefer has confirmed in recent interviews that he was providing advise to Mayweather/ TMT & Haymon regarding running a boxing promotion. Why the hell did he not provide them with some advice and direction for this event, unless he has and they think they would do a better job on their own, which they clearly aint doing by the look of things.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: 7777 on April 20, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
He doesn't have a stable, the stable is floyd


Not strictly true, I knew about Ishe Smith, Theophane and J'Leon Love but there are 12 fighters in the stable

http://www.mayweatherpromotions.com/fighters/ (http://www.mayweatherpromotions.com/fighters/)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 20, 2015, 05:39:44 PM
Not strictly true, I knew about Ishe Smith, Theophane and J'Leon Love but there are 12 fighters in the stable

[url]http://www.mayweatherpromotions.com/fighters/[/url] ([url]http://www.mayweatherpromotions.com/fighters/[/url])


Nobody of note was my point, hardly any superstars in there or future p4p


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on April 20, 2015, 05:52:56 PM
Some say he's not confident

http://t.co/K6znHqJYn7 (http://t.co/K6znHqJYn7)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 20, 2015, 07:02:13 PM
just got my tickets for the thursday card .all in was 24 dollars for casino level seating, its not a big venue or a decent card but be good for the atmosphere anyway ...plus its on tv, so they will want to make it look busy so chances are the seats will be upgraded


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on April 20, 2015, 07:09:57 PM
I cant wait for this whole event to be over...disgraceful how the fans are being treated, I hope we never see such a shambles again...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 20, 2015, 07:56:37 PM
Some say he's not confident

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There is always that one fight in every boxers career where they just hit the right note all night, I can see a clinic being put on by Mayweather and confirming what we have all more or less known for the past 6/5 years, that he is the greatest of our time, not TBE but of our modern era yes.

I admit Manny winning would be great and would love to see how Mayweather would react and if you would come back and avenge the loss then give us a potential trilogy or disappear into the sunset with his money like Naz but this fight is being made out by some to be like good vs evil and as most people say, they tune in to hopefully see Mayweather get beat. I just cannot see how Manny wins unless he blows him out in the early rounds but I am sure Mayweather expects an onsault in the early rounds and will weather it.

Still going with my original prediction of Mayweather TKO/KO Round 8-12


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on April 20, 2015, 08:10:41 PM
Some say he's not confident

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Brilliant can't wait


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 21, 2015, 04:19:49 AM
http://shar.es/1pbBLU (http://shar.es/1pbBLU)

Floyd Sr having a pop at Ariza


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 21, 2015, 09:18:17 AM
Some say he's not confident

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Not buying it mate, he's got his doubts.

They can play as much dramatic piano music in the background as they like, Manny is going to bring it - and Floyd knows it too.

Is it enough to beat Floyd? who knows, but the sheer volume and southpaw stance is going to drag him into a dog fight.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 21, 2015, 09:26:25 AM
Not buying it mate, he's got his doubts.

They can play as much dramatic piano music in the background as they like, Manny is going to bring it - and Floyd knows it too.

Is it enough to beat Floyd? who knows, but the sheer volume and southpaw stance is going to drag him into a dog fight.

I'm not buying it either he's talking nonsense as usual.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 21, 2015, 09:30:42 AM
Not buying it mate, he's got his doubts.

They can play as much dramatic piano music in the background as they like, Manny is going to bring it - and Floyd knows it too.

Is it enough to beat Floyd? who knows, but the sheer volume and southpaw stance is going to drag him into a dog fight.

Couldn't agree more. I think Mayweather camp know this is a different challenge. They don't automatically have the upper hand.

Mayweather definitely could still win but this is going to be a tough tough night for him in my opinion. It would be great to see him really put to the pin of his collar!

It'll be interesting to see who handles the enormous pressure the best on the night.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 21, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
I saw that article about Floyd snr and Ariza.

Bizarre.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 21, 2015, 10:34:28 AM
Couldn't agree more. I think Mayweather camp know this is a different challenge. They don't automatically have the upper hand.

Mayweather definitely could still win but this is going to be a tough tough night for him in my opinion. It would be great to see him really put to the pin of his collar!

It'll be interesting to see who handles the enormous pressure the best on the night.

Let's be right,

Miguel Cotto has lost four times - Pacquiao, Trout, Mayweather and Margarito.

I think everyone beat him wider than Mayweather. Even if we discount the 'concrete gloves' Margarito loss, of all of them Pacquiao did a painful, cutting number on Cotto.

Whereas Floyd just talks about Marquez all the time. At the end of the day, he brought Marquez up from lightweight and he promised him a catchweight which he bunked on. The Marquez of late, whom has really bulked into 147 is a different physical animal.

Sure marquez KO'd pacquiao - but it took a beefed-up welter version of the mexican 42 rounds to find a perfect punch flush on Manny's chin, in a fight he was getting bashed up in and looked like he was certainly going to lose. And has not entertained a rematch despite the millions on the table.

Pacquiao gave Margarito a 150lb fight, and smashed his eye socket in and had a staggering 44% accuracy or something.

I don't for one minute think he will have anything like that accuracy against Floyd, but I think he's going to land more than anyone else in recent times.

Since Floyd beat Marquez he's had some really hum drum opponents - Ortiz, Maidana twice, Guerrero (who was just beaten wide by Thurman) and then a catchweight canelo who strangely opted to box Floyd ?

I will not be surprised if Floyd proves me very wrong, he has done before. But I think he's lost a step, and has had soft fights for the majority of the last 6+ years or more.

Maidana should have been target practice for Floyd, but he struggled against a crude operator badly. I think because Maidana does some things that are so sloppy and unpredictable, that Floyd couldn't read him in the traditional sense. But also part of me thinks Maidana didn't get sucked into the hype.

The thing with Manny, unlike Ortiz Guerrero etc - is that he is used to the spotlight. The big pressure, the entire nation who worships him. He's not going to be dazzled in the spotlights like Hatton etc was.

Manny is so calm and smiley, its comical - I think he's been rather mellow in his last few fights, almost going through the motions. But he's going to come out like a killer in this one.

And Floyd knows it !


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Tito on April 21, 2015, 11:05:43 AM
I have said this before I have always favoured Mayweather but going through the tapes of him and focussing on the early 4 rounds in his last few fights he is not the same fighter he once was. A bit leg heavy, age catching him up and a steady work rate doesn't bode well when Manny is looking so fast and accurate.
As for the rumours of Floyd having troubled sparring that was unthinkable a few years ago and where there is smoke there is fire.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 21, 2015, 11:31:50 AM
Let's be right,

Miguel Cotto has lost four times - Pacquiao, Trout, Mayweather and Margarito.

I think everyone beat him wider than Mayweather. Even if we discount the 'concrete gloves' Margarito loss, of all of them Pacquiao did a painful, cutting number on Cotto.

Whereas Floyd just talks about Marquez all the time. At the end of the day, he brought Marquez up from lightweight and he promised him a catchweight which he bunked on. The Marquez of late, whom has really bulked into 147 is a different physical animal.

Sure marquez KO'd pacquiao - but it took a beefed-up welter version of the mexican 42 rounds to find a perfect punch flush on Manny's chin, in a fight he was getting bashed up in and looked like he was certainly going to lose. And has not entertained a rematch despite the millions on the table.

Pacquiao gave Margarito a 150lb fight, and smashed his eye socket in and had a staggering 44% accuracy or something.

I don't for one minute think he will have anything like that accuracy against Floyd, but I think he's going to land more than anyone else in recent times.

Since Floyd beat Marquez he's had some really hum drum opponents - Ortiz, Maidana twice, Guerrero (who was just beaten wide by Thurman) and then a catchweight canelo who strangely opted to box Floyd ?

I will not be surprised if Floyd proves me very wrong, he has done before. But I think he's lost a step, and has had soft fights for the majority of the last 6+ years or more.

Maidana should have been target practice for Floyd, but he struggled against a crude operator badly. I think because Maidana does some things that are so sloppy and unpredictable, that Floyd couldn't read him in the traditional sense. But also part of me thinks Maidana didn't get sucked into the hype.

The thing with Manny, unlike Ortiz Guerrero etc - is that he is used to the spotlight. The big pressure, the entire nation who worships him. He's not going to be dazzled in the spotlights like Hatton etc was.

Manny is so calm and smiley, its comical - I think he's been rather mellow in his last few fights, almost going through the motions. But he's going to come out like a killer in this one.

And Floyd knows it !

Great post


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 21, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
Let's be right,

Miguel Cotto has lost four times - Pacquiao, Trout, Mayweather and Margarito.

I think everyone beat him wider than Mayweather. Even if we discount the 'concrete gloves' Margarito loss, of all of them Pacquiao did a painful, cutting number on Cotto.

Whereas Floyd just talks about Marquez all the time. At the end of the day, he brought Marquez up from lightweight and he promised him a catchweight which he bunked on. The Marquez of late, whom has really bulked into 147 is a different physical animal.

Sure marquez KO'd pacquiao - but it took a beefed-up welter version of the mexican 42 rounds to find a perfect punch flush on Manny's chin, in a fight he was getting bashed up in and looked like he was certainly going to lose. And has not entertained a rematch despite the millions on the table.

Pacquiao gave Margarito a 150lb fight, and smashed his eye socket in and had a staggering 44% accuracy or something.

I don't for one minute think he will have anything like that accuracy against Floyd, but I think he's going to land more than anyone else in recent times.

Since Floyd beat Marquez he's had some really hum drum opponents - Ortiz, Maidana twice, Guerrero (who was just beaten wide by Thurman) and then a catchweight canelo who strangely opted to box Floyd ?

I will not be surprised if Floyd proves me very wrong, he has done before. But I think he's lost a step, and has had soft fights for the majority of the last 6+ years or more.

Maidana should have been target practice for Floyd, but he struggled against a crude operator badly. I think because Maidana does some things that are so sloppy and unpredictable, that Floyd couldn't read him in the traditional sense. But also part of me thinks Maidana didn't get sucked into the hype.

The thing with Manny, unlike Ortiz Guerrero etc - is that he is used to the spotlight. The big pressure, the entire nation who worships him. He's not going to be dazzled in the spotlights like Hatton etc was.

Manny is so calm and smiley, its comical - I think he's been rather mellow in his last few fights, almost going through the motions. But he's going to come out like a killer in this one.

And Floyd knows it !

A good read.

I would add to that... in some ways manny will have succeeded if he simply manages to make the fight "close". I'm not talking by way of dodgy scorecards like in the mayweather v canelo fight. Or by winning 3 rounds out of 12 like the first maidana fight. Or for that matter the comfortable undramatic circumstances that played out in the mayweather v del hoya fight.

I'm talking about genuinely making mayweather breath hard in the corner, feel panic, pain, bleed. The most ive seen mayweather rattled throughout a fight was against cotto. I think mayweather has a tremendous amount of respect for cotto after their fight... and I think like Red had highlighted mayweather must come out fully tooled up in case the manny that fought cotto turns up on may 2nd, cus if he does... this could be one hell of a fight worthy of a rematch whatever the outcome of the first.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 21, 2015, 01:20:13 PM
It seems that the passing of time has prevented the Manny vs Mayweather hype and bitching sessions that consumed the discussions in times gone by. Its great!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on April 21, 2015, 01:23:39 PM
A good read.

I would add to that... in some ways manny will have succeeded if he simply manages to make the fight "close". I'm not talking by way of dodgy scorecards like in the mayweather v canelo fight. Or by winning 3 rounds out of 12 like the first maidana fight. Or for that matter the comfortable undramatic circumstances that played out in the mayweather v del hoya fight.

I'm talking about genuinely making mayweather breath hard in the corner, feel panic, pain, bleed. The most ive seen mayweather rattled throughout a fight was against cotto. I think mayweather has a tremendous amount of respect for cotto after their fight... and I think like Red had highlighted mayweather must come out fully tooled up in case the manny that fought cotto turns up on may 2nd, cus if he does... this could be one hell of a fight worthy of a rematch whatever the outcome of the first.

If Manny can make it close then I think he will get the win...I think Manny needs to fight the perfect fight to win while I think Floyd could beat him and not be at his best. The thing is I don't know if Pac has the versatility to keep Floyd guessing which I think is what it takes to beat him... Floyd just works guys out through making adjustments and I don't see enough variety in Pac to suggest that Floyd won't be able to adjust to what he brings...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 21, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
If Manny can make it close then I think he will get the win...I think Manny needs to fight the perfect fight to win while I think Floyd could beat him and not be at his best. The thing is I don't know if Pac has the versatility to keep Floyd guessing which I think is what it takes to beat him... Floyd just works guys out through making adjustments and I don't see enough variety in Pac to suggest that Floyd won't be able to adjust to what he brings...

Does he really do this miraculous adjusting he talks of that everyone seems to believe or are his opponents just short of the tools and engine to carry out the job for the whole 12rounds??

When u look back on the fights he has struggled in I don't think it was anything amazing floyd done it was more his opponent hadn't a good plan b & c when plan A wasn't working anymore.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 21, 2015, 01:43:47 PM
Does he really do this miraculous adjusting he talks of that everyone seems to believe or are his opponents just short of the tools and engine to carry out the job for the whole 12rounds??

When u look back on the fights he has struggled in I don't think it was anything amazing floyd done it was more his opponent hadn't a good plan b & c when plan A wasn't working.

Well roach keeps taking about how he knows how to beat this guy.  That manny is learning all the choreagraphed moves and muscle memory to run off the combination when floyd does his usual thing. Let's hope manny can still dance in the event that mayweather decides to change the track.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AndyE on April 21, 2015, 01:44:37 PM
Good post Red!

Lets talk about another key point here; the foot speed of Manny. If we go back to when a lot of us on live fight were in Vegas for Hatton - Mayweather... the bell rang and round one began. Now, if there was anything at all that Hatton showed us it was how foot speed can trouble Floyd (at least in the early rounds). Hatton unfortunately did not have the boxing skill nor the volume of punches to effectively trouble Floyd (not including Cortez' worst refereeing to date) but what he did show around 1:30  into the first round was how his foot speed and throwing an obscure punch from an obscure angle can rock Floyd off balance. Let's throw a south paw into that mix, with lightning foot speed, punches from all angles, blitzing speed and power; things may get very very interesting.

There is something different about Manny in the build up to this fight, an almost hidden knowledge that he truly believes he has Floyds number; this was in my opinion emphasised through that brilliant footlocker(?!) advert he did. Also, not forgetting that Freddie seems to believe he has a perfect plan A/B/C for whatever Floyd brings to the table, Freddie is a brilliant strategist when it comes to fighters who will listen to him and if there is one thing we can be sure of is that Manny will 100% stick to the game plan.

Now on the other side of this argument: lets not read too much into the whole 'I never watch my opponents fight' maybe Floyd personally doesn't but there is one/two men in that camp who definitely will, namely Roger/Jeff (if Jeff is involved). There is a key fight in Manny's semi recent past that they should absolutely pay attention to it's... Shane Mosley (hear me out). The echoes of Naazim Richardson in Shane's corner that night 'Keep turning him, I've solved this dude' ... 'All you gotta do is turn him Shane, he can't do nothing when you turn him' and this is very real, Floyd is a smart smart fighter and will either be told this before or see it in the ring. When Pacquiao attacks he leaps forward almost jumping into them, a simple turn and he's open and at times static. We saw this with Marquez, Manny leaped in, guard down and his momentum against Marquez caused a brutul brutul knockout. Shane could not capitalise on this because he went into a big shell and did not throw one combination punch the whole fight. Floyd will, left hooks, right hands and right hook counter on the turn.

There are so many aspects to this fight that for me make it really interesting. Who will win? I don't know, I lean slightly more towards Floyd but there could be a storm coming where Pacquiao once again shocks the world.

So ready for this fight...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 21, 2015, 02:17:19 PM
Good post Red!

Lets talk about another key point here; the foot speed of Manny. If we go back to when a lot of us on live fight were in Vegas for Hatton - Mayweather... the bell rang and round one began. Now, if there was anything at all that Hatton showed us it was how foot speed can trouble Floyd (at least in the early rounds). Hatton unfortunately did not have the boxing skill nor the volume of punches to effectively trouble Floyd (not including Cortez' worst refereeing to date) but what he did show around 1:30  into the first round was how his foot speed and throwing an obscure punch from an obscure angle can rock Floyd off balance. Let's throw a south paw into that mix, with lightning foot speed, punches from all angles, blitzing speed and power; things may get very very interesting.

There is something different about Manny in the build up to this fight, an almost hidden knowledge that he truly believes he has Floyds number; this was in my opinion emphasised through that brilliant footlocker(?!) advert he did. Also, not forgetting that Freddie seems to believe he has a perfect plan A/B/C for whatever Floyd brings to the table, Freddie is a brilliant strategist when it comes to fighters who will listen to him and if there is one thing we can be sure of is that Manny will 100% stick to the game plan.

Now on the other side of this argument: lets not read too much into the whole 'I never watch my opponents fight' maybe Floyd personally doesn't but there is one/two men in that camp who definitely will, namely Roger/Jeff (if Jeff is involved). There is a key fight in Manny's semi recent past that they should absolutely pay attention to it's... Shane Mosley (hear me out). The echoes of Naazim Richardson in Shane's corner that night 'Keep turning him, I've solved this dude' ... 'All you gotta do is turn him Shane, he can't do nothing when you turn him' and this is very real, Floyd is a smart smart fighter and will either be told this before or see it in the ring. When Pacquiao attacks he leaps forward almost jumping into them, a simple turn and he's open and at times static. We saw this with Marquez, Manny leaped in, guard down and his momentum against Marquez caused a brutul brutul knockout. Shane could not capitalise on this because he went into a big shell and did not through one combination punch the whole fight. Floyd will, left hooks, right hands and right hook counter on the turn.

There are so many aspects to this fight that for me make it really interesting. Who will win? I don't know, I lean slightly more towards Floyd but there could be a storm coming where Pacquiao once again shocks the world.

So ready for this fight...

Great post Andy!!

As you mentioned one moment in a Mayweather fight I have gone back to in the build up to this one is the first round of the Hatton fight and as you said with his foot work and throwing a punch from an obscure angle Mayweather was knocked off balance and back peddled until he regained his feet and stance. Now we all know Manny is faster than Hatton and throws a better variety of punches that could cause him problems in the early rounds.

Roach keeps saying they have a plan A/B/C/D and so on, its all good saying it but its carrying out the plan to perfection and unfortunately this is where I see Pacquaio fallen apart the longer the fight goes on. He will go in with his intial game plan and have some success early on until the normal fight adjustments are made by Mayweather then we will see how he manages to rethink the plan and adjust himself, this is where I think things may fall apart for him and Mayweather will take over control of the fight.

As they say "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" does Manny go in truly believing Mayweather is pillow fisted, I for one hope not as he will get a rude awaken when he gets countered with a fast straight right which will stop him in his tracks and make him think.

This fight has so many outcomes, last weekends fight for example had KO written all over it in the build up, cant imagine alot of £££ was on a points outcome, everyone see's May 2nd being a typical points victory for Mayweather but with the styles of both fighters and clash of styles any outcome is quite possible on fight night and I cannot wait, the lack luster feeling about this fight I have had for the past 5 years due to boredom of constants negotiations and let downs I am now very excited for it and thats something about a fight I aint really felt in a long time.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 21, 2015, 02:35:58 PM
So with all this talk is anyone going to lump a few quid on manny?



I think we will see these guys both better than they have been lately. And even if neither is the fighter they once was, for me a 70% floyd beats a 80% manny.

Interest seems to be building nicely though.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 21, 2015, 02:44:36 PM
So with all this talk is anyone going to lump a few quid on manny?



I think we will see these guys both better than they have been lately. And even if neither is the fighter they once was, for me a 70% floyd beats a 80% manny.

Interest seems to be building nicely though.

Well I certainly wont be but the odds on Floyd is coming in big style. I have the following on so far and will no doubt put a few more on once in Vegas and boozed up a bit and the fight night atmosphere and adrenaline takes over ..

Mayweather to win - 1/2 (Sky Bet)
Mayweather on decision/ tech decision - 5/6 (Betfair)
Mayweather round 8 - 75/1 (Betfair)
Mayweather round 9 - 65/1 (Betfair)
Mayweather round 10 - 55/1 (Betfair)
Mayweather round 11 - 70/1 (Betfair)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 21, 2015, 03:10:30 PM
I've had 10 quid on Mayweather 10-12 at 25/1.

Not bad odds on a draw either 20/1


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 21, 2015, 03:32:48 PM
I think a draw is the best value bet.

Otherwise Manny on points. I can't see a stoppage and Mayweather on points is short.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on April 21, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Just confirmed...

Referee - Kenny Bayliss
Judges - Clements/ Moretti and Feldman


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AndyE on April 21, 2015, 04:59:02 PM
Just confirmed...

Referee - Kenny Bayliss
Judges - Clements/ Moretti and Feldman

It was always going to be Kenny Bayliss - the best fight deserves the best referee.

Moretti, Burt and Feldman are all very solid on their night; especially Feldman.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on April 21, 2015, 05:41:26 PM
Does he really do this miraculous adjusting he talks of that everyone seems to believe or are his opponents just short of the tools and engine to carry out the job for the whole 12rounds??

When u look back on the fights he has struggled in I don't think it was anything amazing floyd done it was more his opponent hadn't a good plan b & c when plan A wasn't working anymore.

Yee mate I am actually agreeing with what you're saying pal...various fighters have posed Floyd serious problems, I.e. Cotto, Judah, Mosley, De La Hoya, Maidana...but none of them had the variation to trouble Floyd over the whole 12 and as such he was able to make the adjustments...if there was a fighter that could execute all of the styles that these guys posed trouble to Floyd with, such a fighter could beat Floyd but I'm not convinced that Manny is that guy...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: unknown on April 21, 2015, 07:06:30 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZFdFGzBHO4&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZFdFGzBHO4#)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: dmp on April 21, 2015, 09:02:10 PM
I've had 10 quid on Mayweather 10-12 at 25/1.

Not bad odds on a draw either 20/1

i got floyd r9 40/1
789 16/1


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 21, 2015, 09:47:44 PM
Floyd was only granted his Nevada boxing license today.
I'm sure that wouldn't be linked to the fact that there are no tickets yet, but it's an interesting titbit.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AndyE on April 21, 2015, 09:56:43 PM
Floyd was only granted his Nevada boxing license today.
I'm sure that wouldn't be linked to the fact that there are no tickets yet, but it's an interesting titbit.

Link?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 21, 2015, 10:04:03 PM
It was always going to be Kenny Bayliss - the best fight deserves the best referee.


Disagree,

Tony Weeks came in from criticism for allowing Maidana to keep on top of Floyd, as long as "punches were being thrown" - Floyd didn't like that one bit.

In the rematch, bayliss was Mayweather's bitch, stopping all that inside stuff immediately to Floyd's satisfaction.




Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AndyE on April 21, 2015, 10:08:10 PM
Disagree,

Tony Weeks came in from criticism for allowing Maidana to keep on top of Floyd, as long as "punches were being thrown" - Floyd didn't like that one bit.

In the rematch, bayliss was Mayweather's bitch, stopping all that inside stuff immediately to Floyd's satisfaction.




I see where you're coming from Red but Maidana and Manny's styles? Hardly comparable on the inside.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 21, 2015, 10:23:05 PM
Link?


http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-granted-license-2-showdown--90044 (http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-granted-license-2-showdown--90044)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: stevenmason on April 21, 2015, 10:42:15 PM
Disagree,

Tony Weeks came in from criticism for allowing Maidana to keep on top of Floyd, as long as "punches were being thrown" - Floyd didn't like that one bit.

In the rematch, bayliss was Mayweather's bitch, stopping all that inside stuff immediately to Floyd's satisfaction.




Agree with Red, poor choice of ref. There is a reason why meme's of Bayless protecting Floyd go around.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jorg21 on April 21, 2015, 11:12:33 PM
It was always going to be Bayliss Floyd win by UD now  :-[


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 22, 2015, 01:15:26 AM
Some fresh ticket news.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/manny-pacquiao-adviser-suggest-lawsuits-will-come-in-wake-of-ticket-debacle-001536660.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/manny-pacquiao-adviser-suggest-lawsuits-will-come-in-wake-of-ticket-debacle-001536660.html)

Only 500 tickets expected to be made available to the public.

But, shocking that this close to the fight, there is NO signed contract between the promoters and the MGM Grand!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 22, 2015, 02:18:48 AM
http://spam.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed (http://spam.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed)

Zero tickets actually printed yet, if this is to be believed.

Also, the lack of a signed contract is leading some sources to say that the fight is in real jeopardy.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on April 22, 2015, 02:50:43 AM
[url]http://spam.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed[/url] ([url]http://spam.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12736671/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-contract-not-signed[/url])

Zero tickets actually printed yet, if this is to be believed.

Also, the lack of a signed contract is leading some sources to say that the fight is in real jeopardy.


This is an absolute farce and it would not suprise me at all if this fight DOES NOT go ahead. 10 days out and no signed agreement on the venue isn't good at all...

If there is even a hint that money will be lost due to the handling of all this, expect one of the boxers to pull out of the fight with a "back" injury over the weekend...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: maguire on April 22, 2015, 04:47:48 AM
Maybe they are holding back the distribution of tickets because they fear there will be a lot of fake tickets everywhere. considering the amount of the tickets, definitely a lot will try to make money out of it. just my take.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 22, 2015, 05:47:05 AM
spam are reporting Arum is the one not signing off on the deal, but if the original signed contract stated Mayweather promotions are the sole negotiator with the MGM why does this one need Bob's signiature?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 22, 2015, 01:07:40 PM
Has there ever been a buildup like this? Is there a genuine chance of this not happening??

The most worrying thing is there seems to be very little sunk costs involved here - if this is pulled it won't cost the promoters a whole lot. Its becoming worrying!!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: GOD on April 22, 2015, 02:31:37 PM
Has there ever been a buildup like this? Is there a genuine chance of this not happening??

The most worrying thing is there seems to be very little sunk costs involved here - if this is pulled it won't cost the promoters a whole lot. Its becoming worrying!!

Your last point is EXACTLY what I was thinking...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: unknown on April 22, 2015, 08:13:00 PM
If manny does not make this fight errespective of what ever.. He is oweing i read 35 or 75 million
Back taxes.

What ever was signed previous the terms sheet that spam is reporting on, well that like for like has to be signed.

How amature this is making the legal teams involved..

There is too much money involved for the fight to go ahead, it might be the case
It goes right up to the last 48hours or so before it gets signed.

Bob arum has to remember floyd is doing yhe favours here not yhe other way round,
Arum has to wheel out his bruce lee kid nothing more


Also my opinon neather camp or teams shpuld be involved with any thing but purely the fight aspects
Less complex more chance the fight happens, any thing complex should have been put under microscope 24 months ago, what are these idots playing at? Its rediculas , like children in playground and this is a 300million dollar entrrprise.

Also bob arum is put of line talking about the holocaust during that press conference,


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: one more round on April 22, 2015, 09:14:20 PM
Can't put a link up but over the last hour its all over the internet that a 1000 tickets have gone on sale starting from $1500 to $7000. All contracts signed now. Thank god


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 22, 2015, 09:48:04 PM
Can't put a link up but over the last hour its all over the internet that a 1000 tickets have gone on sale starting from $1500 to $7000. All contracts signed now. Thank god

Nice one mate.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: unknown on April 22, 2015, 10:02:22 PM
yep confirmed.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3051218/Floyd-Mayweather-vs-Manny-Pacquiao-tickets-FINALLY-sale-10-days-mega-fight-MGM-Grand-Las-Vegas.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3051218/Floyd-Mayweather-vs-Manny-Pacquiao-tickets-FINALLY-sale-10-days-mega-fight-MGM-Grand-Las-Vegas.html)


My £2k is going to be got spun on Floyd here... for better or worst, I actually have £6 in my bank account and two items on ebay to provide food until next Thursday payday. also have £200 on chrisweidman vs Belfort.  I need to stop giving stuff away in life, bought some one a tv sound bar, gave a PX 350 casio keyboard away, lost £500 playing routlette (never again), gave graphics card to some one as a gift.. then bomb im skint.


I actually put the left overs of a chicken in a pot of boiling water to make soup last night and have no food at home.


help me move this fat of my fck waste line now wont it! lost 6 pounds in days lol


go Floyd, fill my bank up so I can buy sht I don't need again and my weight back on.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: middleweight on April 22, 2015, 10:27:22 PM
yep confirmed.


[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3051218/Floyd-Mayweather-vs-Manny-Pacquiao-tickets-FINALLY-sale-10-days-mega-fight-MGM-Grand-Las-Vegas.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3051218/Floyd-Mayweather-vs-Manny-Pacquiao-tickets-FINALLY-sale-10-days-mega-fight-MGM-Grand-Las-Vegas.html[/url])


My £2k is going to be got spun on Floyd here... for better or worst, I actually have £6 in my bank account and two items on ebay to provide food until next Thursday payday. also have £200 on chrisweidman vs Belfort.  I need to stop giving stuff away in life, bought some one a tv sound bar, gave a PX 350 casio keyboard away, lost £500 playing routlette (never again), gave graphics card to some one as a gift.. then bomb im skint.


I actually put the left overs of a chicken in a pot of boiling water to make soup last night and have no food at home.


help me move this fat of my fck waste line now wont it! lost 6 pounds in days lol


go Floyd, fill my bank up so I can buy sht I don't need again and my weight back on.


(http://replygif.net/i/1075.gif)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 22, 2015, 11:04:32 PM
yep confirmed.


[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3051218/Floyd-Mayweather-vs-Manny-Pacquiao-tickets-FINALLY-sale-10-days-mega-fight-MGM-Grand-Las-Vegas.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3051218/Floyd-Mayweather-vs-Manny-Pacquiao-tickets-FINALLY-sale-10-days-mega-fight-MGM-Grand-Las-Vegas.html[/url])


My £2k is going to be got spun on Floyd here... for better or worst, I actually have £6 in my bank account and two items on ebay to provide food until next Thursday payday. also have £200 on chrisweidman vs Belfort.  I need to stop giving stuff away in life, bought some one a tv sound bar, gave a PX 350 casio keyboard away, lost £500 playing routlette (never again), gave graphics card to some one as a gift.. then bomb im skint.


I actually put the left overs of a chicken in a pot of boiling water to make soup last night and have no food at home.


help me move this fat of my fck waste line now wont it! lost 6 pounds in days lol


go Floyd, fill my bank up so I can buy sht I don't need again and my weight back on.


Must be earning big money! Otherwise get help :)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 22, 2015, 11:17:26 PM
Pac is in ridiculous shape... He looks like the cotto version.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DLINKLA on April 22, 2015, 11:32:32 PM
Weigh in tickets cost $10


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: unknown on April 22, 2015, 11:49:47 PM
Must be earning big money! Otherwise get help :)

53 base plus ot at 40 an hour, when its needed,  that's chicken feed thou. search job search for IT workers that know at least half way what they are doing, your looking 200 - 350 a day, example, itil is not that much, if your expert level certified in that you can be on 700 a day long contracts.

if you want money... go to bed early... get up at 4am and study the books and get the certs... its not difficult you just need to do that if that's what you want to do.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: son of bonters on April 23, 2015, 01:11:00 AM
Can't put a link up but over the last hour its all over the internet that a 1000 tickets have gone on sale starting from $1500 to $7000. All contracts signed now. Thank god

Tickets will go on sale later today.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 23, 2015, 04:17:44 AM
Tickets at 3 EST (4 per person) CC at 6 EST (8 per person) $150 each!!


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on April 23, 2015, 04:34:01 AM
Tasteless video I saw on facebook today, but it made me laugh...  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYQ6mAZXq9E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYQ6mAZXq9E)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 23, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
Tickets at 3 EST (4 per person) CC at 6 EST (8 per person) $150 each!!

We're is the best for cctv tickets then?
What ballrooms/theatres you recommend?

Also what's it like for bevvy/scran?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Driscoll on April 23, 2015, 04:48:21 PM
We're is the best for cctv tickets then?
What ballrooms/theatres you recommend?

Also what's it like for bevvy/scran?

I've only been to one cctv and it was in the mirage I think. Just basically a conference room with a huge screen. From memory I can't remember there being any food available  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DLINKLA on April 23, 2015, 05:02:30 PM
Tickets on sale at 8pm UK time

No tickets will be posted and its collection only with credit card and ID


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 23, 2015, 05:08:41 PM
Tickets on sale at 8pm UK time

No tickets will be posted and its collection only with credit card and ID

thats tickets for the fight, the cctv are at 11pm oor time


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 24, 2015, 06:06:27 AM
anyone have any luck with the cctv ?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on April 24, 2015, 06:57:55 AM
anyone have any luck with the cctv ?
No I was on there bang on when it clicked on sale at 11 and got nothing

Britney Spears it is instead


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 24, 2015, 07:55:11 AM
I feel for those that have booked flights and cant even get a CCTV spot.

The CCTV should have been put on general sale a long time ago, but i reckon this fight nearly fell through at some point in the last couple of weeks, for it to be so delayed.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Che Guevara on April 24, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
What's the point in having a fight like this if they are doing everything in their power for ppl not to see it? This should be a showcase for boxing the more that see this event the better, instead they are hell bend on making it as hard as possible for ppl to view it. Boxing is a shambles


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 24, 2015, 08:53:27 AM
anyone have any luck with the cctv ?


Got 2 for Mandalay Bay Michael Jackson theatre. I had 2 at 11pm for the Zumanity theatre but it errored out just before I paid, so I was an hour or more refreshing looking for other tickets, then other theatres starting popping up like the MJ theatre .
Did you sort CCTV tickets


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: waller on April 24, 2015, 08:57:14 AM
Any news on the lad off here who paid a ticket distributor £4k+ for a 'guaranteed' ticket?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 24, 2015, 09:49:53 AM
Guarantee there will be affordable tickets come fight night.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 24, 2015, 12:00:18 PM


Got 2 for Mandalay Bay Michael Jackson theatre. I had 2 at 11pm for the Zumanity theatre but it errored out just before I paid, so I was an hour or more refreshing looking for other tickets, then other theatres starting popping up like the MJ theatre .
Did you sort CCTV tickets

well after i got nout in the ticket sale last night ... i ended up with this
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-fight-party-tickets-16645395827?invite=&err=29&referrer=&discount=&affiliate=&eventpassword= (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-fight-party-tickets-16645395827?invite=&err=29&referrer=&discount=&affiliate=&eventpassword=)

no bad for 300 bucks for the 4 of us (up to 6 people can attend) so will be looking forward to that . would i prefer to be on the strip? a wee bit but to be honest as far as watching a fight on a screen it doesent matter in vegas i am if i am not at the actual fight, ill soak up the atmosphere on the day and jump a taxi about 6 ... then come back after the fight


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: cowboy55 on April 24, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
what tix that were "avaiable(and trust me there were non)supposedly went within 60 seconds.on;ly way that could happen is if Ticketmaster(controlling sales) allowed their partner in crime"StubHub" early access and they gobbled them uo.This has been a fookin farce&debaucle from the moment it started.I'm actually hoping pone of them gets pissed at the other and withdwraws


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Hotdog on April 24, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Guarantee there will be affordable tickets come fight night.

Depends what you call affordable.  The cheapest ticket is £1000 anyway, I really can't see anyone taking a loss on the ticket. So £1000+ for the back of the arena is the best deal you'll get.  Is that cheap?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on April 24, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
well after i got nout in the ticket sale last night ... i ended up with this
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-fight-party-tickets-16645395827?invite=&err=29&referrer=&discount=&affiliate=&eventpassword= (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-fight-party-tickets-16645395827?invite=&err=29&referrer=&discount=&affiliate=&eventpassword=)

no bad for 300 bucks for the 4 of us (up to 6 people can attend) so will be looking forward to that . would i prefer to be on the strip? a wee bit but to be honest as far as watching a fight on a screen it doesent matter in vegas i am if i am not at the actual fight, ill soak up the atmosphere on the day and jump a taxi about 6 ... then come back after the fight

That looks a pretty good deal to me mate considering how much cctv tix are alone.
Enjoy it.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 24, 2015, 01:33:40 PM
After the weigh in. The tickets are going to rise in price even further i think. There will be far more than 16500 people in and around vegas wanting to get into the arena. Tickets won't be affordable for this one.  The hype machine is at warp factor 10.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: westbo on April 24, 2015, 03:14:49 PM
Fairplay to anyone going  to vegas for this really hope the trip is made worth your while after all the hard cash people have splashed out on this.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: essemk on April 24, 2015, 04:23:28 PM
anyone have any luck with the cctv ?

I got 7 at the nyny. I got these by ringing them direct. Rang 10 minutes before 11pm in anticipation of waiting in a line, and as I thought got through to a person at about 11.20. Whilst hanging on the phone I was also on ticketmaster , refreshing all the time and got nowhere. So when I eventually got through to a real person was mightily relieved. Didn't stop there though cos her computer kept on going slow and I was dreading being cut off and missing out. Totally stressful .  By about 11.40 nearly all cctv tickets had been sold . In the end I am kinda glad I didn't go to stubhub or where ever and pay 3 or 4 grand which I and a pal seriously considered doing.  MGM a total money grabbing exercise that leaves a sour taste in the mouth. They were offering people who were staying at the hotel a deal for between 375 and 475 dollars to watch in one of their clubs  which would include a ticket to the cctv where you could drink all you could between 5pm and 9pm . Now I like a beer but seriously about 250 dollars worth in 4 hours. Rip Off MGM


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 24, 2015, 04:33:19 PM
well after i got nout in the ticket sale last night ... i ended up with this
[url]https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-fight-party-tickets-16645395827?invite=&err=29&referrer=&discount=&affiliate=&eventpassword=[/url] ([url]https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-fight-party-tickets-16645395827?invite=&err=29&referrer=&discount=&affiliate=&eventpassword=[/url])

no bad for 300 bucks for the 4 of us (up to 6 people can attend) so will be looking forward to that . would i prefer to be on the strip? a wee bit but to be honest as far as watching a fight on a screen it doesent matter in vegas i am if i am not at the actual fight, ill soak up the atmosphere on the day and jump a taxi about 6 ... then come back after the fight


Is it far from the strip? looks like an industrial estate.

(http://i.imgur.com/rlBzMLg.jpg)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 24, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
That pic of the dryness and weather brings back memories.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 24, 2015, 05:07:14 PM
Is it far from the strip? looks like an industrial estate.

([url]http://i.imgur.com/rlBzMLg.jpg[/url])





its about 2-3 miles mate, in line with  the strat but behind the showcase mall ... i know its a bit out the way but to be honest bars , but to be honest it was there or a Mansion party which looked a bit weird but was a open bar for 250 ... i just wanted to have something sorted for going out there and didnt want to be worrying about getting tickets and ripped off over there mate ...


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 24, 2015, 05:12:45 PM
I got 7 at the nyny. I got these by ringing them direct. Rang 10 minutes before 11pm in anticipation of waiting in a line, and as I thought got through to a person at about 11.20. Whilst hanging on the phone I was also on ticketmaster , refreshing all the time and got nowhere. So when I eventually got through to a real person was mightily relieved. Didn't stop there though cos her computer kept on going slow and I was dreading being cut off and missing out. Totally stressful .  By about 11.40 nearly all cctv tickets had been sold . In the end I am kinda glad I didn't go to stubhub or where ever and pay 3 or 4 grand which I and a pal seriously considered doing.  MGM a total money grabbing exercise that leaves a sour taste in the mouth. They were offering people who were staying at the hotel a deal for between 375 and 475 dollars to watch in one of their clubs  which would include a ticket to the cctv where you could drink all you could between 5pm and 9pm . Now I like a beer but seriously about 250 dollars worth in 4 hours. Rip Off MGM

F*ck mate that is a shift, well done . i wouldn't have minded NYNY that is one of my fav casino's


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 24, 2015, 06:11:25 PM
Has this fight been the most hyped of your lifetime?
I actually thought up to this point lewis v Tyson seemed like a more hyped fight. And a bigger occasion.  But going off the numbers this must be bigger, Whats people thoughts on this?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 24, 2015, 06:46:18 PM
For anyone heading over , weigh in tickets go on sale at 8pm our time and can only be purchased in person or over the phone at the mgm box office, phone number 001 86 6740 7711


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jimjack on April 24, 2015, 07:29:49 PM
Has this fight been the most hyped of your lifetime?
I actually thought up to this point lewis v Tyson seemed like a more hyped fight. And a bigger occasion.  But going off the numbers this must be bigger, Whats people thoughts on this?

I still think Lewis Tyson was bigger.
Tyson was a phenomenon.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Platty on April 24, 2015, 07:36:35 PM
Just seen double barrel are showing the fight...seems the bars on the strip are paying the fee as they know they'll be coining it in.

Cosmo are showing it as well


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: unknown on April 24, 2015, 10:26:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAG4PYD10EA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAG4PYD10EA)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 25, 2015, 06:17:35 AM
For anyone heading over , weigh in tickets go on sale at 8pm our time and can only be purchased in person or over the phone at the mgm box office, phone number 001 86 6740 7711

Did you get any? I never bothered


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: AO88 on April 25, 2015, 07:09:31 AM
Did you get any? I never bothered

Sounds like they'd have been harder to get than most fight tix.

Anyone know of any CCTV tix on sale at a decent price? They are not for me but know a few seeking them?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on April 25, 2015, 08:28:49 AM
Sounds like they'd have been harder to get than most fight tix.

Anyone know of any CCTV tix on sale at a decent price? They are not for me but know a few seeking them?

 ;D

You need an economy flights and a hotel room as well


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mac-rebel021 on April 25, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
Did you get any? I never bothered


Ya got 2 but it took over an hour to get through. Its ridiculous how in demand this fight is. I reckon they could of asked for $ 250 for CCTV tickets and it would of not had any effect on demand


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Faulks on April 25, 2015, 09:45:35 AM
If I was going and ud the cash Id not be to bothered there will be tickets available .. Rest of the card is gash so just hang around and wait until nearer the main event..

I'm watching this in a cinema it looks like so that'll be a weird one .

Especially as I'll be going straight from a nightclub at 5-7am ish  8)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Red on April 26, 2015, 09:16:49 AM
If I was going and ud the cash Id not be to bothered there will be tickets available .. Rest of the card is gash so just hang around and wait until nearer the main event..

I'm watching this in a cinema it looks like so that'll be a weird one .

Especially as I'll be going straight from a nightclub at 5-7am ish  8)

Dubai ?

It's 4+ hours ahead if i can remember.

I reckon Floyd Pac will be about 5am ring walk.

So that's gonna be about 9am in Dubai I reckon. You'll be asleep in your seat, or will have that extremely stuttering double-dove halucination vision  ;D


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Alba on April 26, 2015, 06:08:33 PM
If anyone who is in Vegas fancys getting the party started early and watching the Kentucky Derby, this is a decent deal and were heading along

http://therockhousebar.com/events/4731/ (http://therockhousebar.com/events/4731/)


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: ManilaReds on April 27, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
It's been a long road, but we're here now //

Haven't been on this forum since Manny fought Hatton so not too sure if any of the old heads are around still?

I'll be in Vegas, flying from Manila and arrive on Thursday

Anyone fancy meeting up for a few bevy's let me know

Cheers for now

Reds


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 27, 2015, 08:42:53 AM
It's been a long road, but we're here now //

Haven't been on this forum since Manny fought Hatton so not too sure if any of the old heads are around still?

I'll be in Vegas, flying from Manila and arrive on Thursday

Anyone fancy meeting up for a few bevy's let me know

Cheers for now

Reds

Welcome back Manila - how is the gut feeling going into the weekend? Will Manny do it?


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: jaff_no1 on April 27, 2015, 02:10:10 PM
Checked into the bellagio yesterday and asked concierge about cctv tickets. They are showing it at bellagio for guests only at same price as everywhere else. If anyone is staying at an mgm property I would try concierge there as they may be able to help


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: mooreman on April 27, 2015, 10:48:19 PM
Tickets dropped 700 to 4300 Today


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: Scarface on April 27, 2015, 11:23:02 PM
Tickets dropped 700 to 4300 Today

That's a snip.


Title: Re: Floyd v Manny confirmed
Post by: DANIELK104 on May 09, 2015, 08:41:39 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/mayweather-pacquiao-ppv-sales-are-astronomically-high--will-obliterate-record-220828318.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/mayweather-pacquiao-ppv-sales-are-astronomically-high--will-obliterate-record-220828318.html)

PPV sales to exceed 5 million due to over 2 million already being sold without the cable companies figures being released....that is insane!  :o

Think this exceeds what anyone ever expected it to do even back when both were in their prime. I am even more amazed due to the lack of build up and promotion.