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Title: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: deck on May 12, 2015, 08:07:10 AM
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Bradley-Vargas is official

Former two-division world champion Timothy “Desert Storm” Bradley, Jr. (31-1-1, 12 KOs) and undefeated World Boxing Association (WBA) super lightweight world champion Jessie Vargas (26-0, 9 KOs) will host a Los Angeles press conference next Monday (May 18) in Los Angeles to officially announce their upcoming 12-round welterweight battle scheduled for June 27 at StubHub Center in nearby Carson. Promoted by Top Rank, in association with Tecate, the Bradley vs. Vargas welterweight rumble will be televised live on HBO World Championship Boxing.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: deck on May 12, 2015, 08:16:19 AM
The shine has well and truly gone off Bradley. He should be fighting the likes of Thurman or Brook rather than an undefeated light welter with feather fists.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: motoriser on May 12, 2015, 09:34:49 AM
I think Arum no longer has use for him,so better Cash him out to Pimp out a new Hispanic fighter.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: Gaz on May 12, 2015, 10:59:47 AM
Broner vs Shawn Porter also announced. Like that fight.

Demarco v Barthelemy too.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: ScottMillwall on May 12, 2015, 11:42:30 AM
Vargas is crud.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: Socrates on May 12, 2015, 12:27:01 PM
Vargas is crud.

Agreed.

And agreed on Deck's point about Bradley. He never drew flies unfortunately.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: AO88 on May 12, 2015, 01:48:53 PM
Broner vs Shawn Porter also announced. Like that fight.
Demarco v Barthelemy too.

Really good fight that.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: The Hurricane on May 12, 2015, 02:01:28 PM
Anyone know if Broner v Porter is at catchweight as I had seen this rumoured?  Takes the shine off it if so as was the case with Garcia v Peterson.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: Gaz on May 12, 2015, 02:11:11 PM
No idea about the catchweight thing but I'm not really bothered either way. Neither guy holds a title. Broner, no idea what his real weight clas sactually is these days and I know Porter was champ at 140, but he's a big unit who could possibly be better and more effective if allowed to hold a couple extra pounds going into a fight. I can see a catchweight being of benefit to both guys here to be honest in terms of the pair of them being physically at their peak for the fight. Plus it's just a good fight so I don't really see the need for any negativity or indifference to the match-up to be honest.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: AO88 on May 12, 2015, 02:13:59 PM
Anyone know if Broner v Porter is at catchweight as I had seen this rumoured?  Takes the shine off it if so as was the case with Garcia v Peterson.

Yeah I heard it was.

Do you wreckon Haymon sets the catch weights to avoid the belts and sanctioning fees which he's apparently against?


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: Laney on May 12, 2015, 02:14:19 PM
Porter will anihalate Broner IMO.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: Tim2366 on May 12, 2015, 02:15:20 PM
Porter will anihalate Broner IMO.

and mine.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: ScottMillwall on May 12, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
Getting sick of these catchweights on Haymon shows.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: The Hurricane on May 12, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
Yeah I heard it was.

Do you wreckon Haymon sets the catch weights to avoid the belts and sanctioning fees which he's apparently against?

I wondered if he was doing it so as to make it look like he's not actively trying to get them out of the picture in case the model he is appearing to favour doesn't gain traction and he needs to work with them again.  Another catchweight fight so soon after the last one would seem to dilute what he is offering as an alternative to the existing set up.  Whilst last weekends fights were good, PBC hasn't set my world on fire by a long shot although we don't see it as having the benefit of being free to air as they do in the States.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: AO88 on May 12, 2015, 10:12:08 PM
I wondered if he was doing it so as to make it look like he's not actively trying to get them out of the picture in case the model he is appearing to favour doesn't gain traction and he needs to work with them again.  Another catchweight fight so soon after the last one would seem to dilute what he is offering as an alternative to the existing set up.  Whilst last weekends fights were good, PBC hasn't set my world on fire by a long shot although we don't see it as having the benefit of being free to air as they do in the States.

It's a strange one, he must know the catch weight scenario will draw criticism and bad press towards the fight, so I'm keen to know what benefits he sees in it.

Neither of these guys even hold a worthy title that I know of come to think of it, so that makes it even stranger.

I'd take Haymons shows over matchroom offering regardless of the catchweight.

Fancy the allowed extra size favours porter more than broner but still would not totally write broner off at all.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: stevenmason on May 12, 2015, 11:22:52 PM
Yes, Porter v Broner is appealing. Heard its at a catchweight of 144lb I think. Its a dangerous one for Broner but couldn't care less for Bradley v Vargas.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: Scarface on May 14, 2015, 08:10:12 AM
Broner v porter might well be worth staying up for.

What has happened to Bradley ??


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: The_Answer on May 14, 2015, 03:18:06 PM
Broner v porter might well be worth staying up for.

What has happened to Bradley ??

He seems hell bent on squandering the prime of his career trying to be some sort of brawler/knock out artist and he's making himself look ridiculous.

Talk about throwing away the momentum he gave himself after putting on a boxing clinic against Marquez.

I started to lose interest after the Manny rematch, the biggest opportunity of his career and he didn't even attempt to box just swinging wild hooks into thin air.




Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: Scarface on May 14, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
He seems hell bent on squandering the prime of his career trying to be some sort of brawler/knock out artist and he's making himself look ridiculous.

Talk about throwing away the momentum he gave himself after putting on a boxing clinic against Marquez.

I started to lose interest after the Manny rematch, the biggest opportunity of his career and he didn't even attempt to box just swinging wild hooks into thin air.


Do you think it also has something to do with not being able to fight anybody outside of the top rank stable. The welterweight division is stacked but he is like the forgotten man. Or has he lost motivation now that he has faced manny and marquez.


Title: Re: Bradley-Vargas is official
Post by: The_Answer on May 14, 2015, 06:34:01 PM
Do you think it also has something to do with not being able to fight anybody outside of the top rank stable. The welterweight division is stacked but he is like the forgotten man. Or has he lost motivation now that he has faced manny and marquez.

There's still options for him.. Rios, Matthyse, Prov rematch. He could box circles around all 3 and put his name back in the mix... but he needs to drop the machismo and get back to boxing.