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Title: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on February 14, 2017, 07:40:59 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2017/02/14/conor-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather-boxing-match-terms/97886742/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2017/02/14/conor-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather-boxing-match-terms/97886742/)

Oh scrap that... The source is from "The Sun" FFS.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on February 14, 2017, 10:10:05 PM
Seen half a dozen articles today reporting that it's basically a done deal. I'm now half expecting it to be officially announced some time soon.

Be a mega event if it happens even though of course the contest itself is a foregone conclusion.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 14, 2017, 11:32:20 PM
This is genuinely looking like a real possibility. It's a complete joke of a fight but can't fault either guy as they are going to make an absolute fortune.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on February 15, 2017, 05:57:08 AM
Be interesting to see who has the better lawyers out of Conor and the UFC.


Also be fun to see ticket prices.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on February 15, 2017, 08:43:05 AM
McGregor all about the money here.

"Mayweather is the best boxer in the world and proved it tonight, let's now get in on in the Octogan."

*Mayweather laughs loudly*


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on February 15, 2017, 08:59:27 AM
McGregor all about the money here.

"Mayweather is the best boxer in the world and proved it tonight, let's now get in on in the Octogan."

*Mayweather laughs loudly*

Before agreeing to a rematch...at WWE WrestleMania


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on February 15, 2017, 11:03:37 AM
Mayweather wins the fight.

Mcgregor wins the trash talking build up.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 15, 2017, 11:46:36 AM
Mayweather wins the fight.

Mcgregor wins the trash talking build up.

Both win the dollar.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on February 15, 2017, 06:03:01 PM
The problem is the fight is such a hideous mismatch that'll it'll be such an anti-climax for all those that will get sucked in by the hype. The gulf in ability levels will be insane. This is like a premiership side playing a Sunday pub team at Wembley.

I expect to see Mayweather carrying McGregor and showboating just to prolong proceedings and to try and justify the fight happening. The question is how spiteful will Mayweather be.....will he look to hurt McGregor or will he just look to have fun?

This is the greatest 'major event' mismatch in the history of the sport. It is simply a cash grab. Mayweather we know loves a dollar, and McGregor has realised that he'll never make the money in the UFC that he can with just one drubbing in a boxing ring, so he's cashing in now and will probably never fight again.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: DLINKLA on February 15, 2017, 06:10:27 PM
There is no way on earth that Mayweather knocks Connor out.

I'm just hoping Conor forgets it's boxing and knees Mayweather in the face.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 15, 2017, 06:50:18 PM
There is no way on earth that Mayweather knocks Connor out.

I'm just hoping Conor forgets it's boxing and knees Mayweather in the face.

That's it....hopefully when it's all falling apart Conor will drop some leg kicks and put that clown to bed.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on February 15, 2017, 07:40:03 PM
The problem is the fight is such a hideous mismatch that'll it'll be such an anti-climax for all those that will get sucked in by the hype. The gulf in ability levels will be insane. This is like a premiership side playing a Sunday pub team at Wembley.

I expect to see Mayweather carrying McGregor and showboating just to prolong proceedings and to try and justify the fight happening. The question is how spiteful will Mayweather be.....will he look to hurt McGregor or will he just look to have fun?

This is the greatest 'major event' mismatch in the history of the sport. It is simply a cash grab. Mayweather we know loves a dollar, and McGregor has realised that he'll never make the money in the UFC that he can with just one drubbing in a boxing ring, so he's cashing in now and will probably never fight again.



I can't see Mayweather showboating, that's not really his style. I can however see him being extremely clinical, extremely masterful, and extremely vicious


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 15, 2017, 08:07:23 PM
I still don't see how this happens. Mcgregor is ufc's biggest cash cow (especially with what happened to rousey). Why would they let him get shown up in a boxing ring when he has 4 fights left on his deal with them?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on February 15, 2017, 09:04:09 PM
There is no way on earth that Mayweather knocks Connor out.

I'm just hoping Conor forgets it's boxing and knees Mayweather in the face.

I think he can stop Mcgregor late. Once Connor gases and starts fighting in slow motion it could be a brutal beat down if Mayweather decides to, assuming his hands hold up.  Easy fight for Mayweather, Connor hasn't a clue what he is in for.
This has to be Mayweathers ultimate cherry picked opponent.

There are alot of hurdles to overcome if this fight is to happen. I feel like this fight will fall at the last hurdle. The UFC.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on February 15, 2017, 09:06:31 PM
I still don't see how this happens. Mcgregor is ufc's biggest cash cow (especially with what happened to rousey). Why would they let him get shown up in a boxing ring when he has 4 fights left on his deal with them?

It might be a case of McGregor applying pressure on the UFC - if your not willing to pay me crazy money at least let me go and make it somewhere else. People are still going to want to watch him in the UFC - win or lose against mayweather.

In fact, the UFC will get more exposure from this than any other UFC event... possibly gaining new fans and greater PPV revenue in the future. The UFC and McGregor know that he wont be around forever.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on February 15, 2017, 09:58:16 PM
I can't see Mayweather showboating, that's not really his style. I can however see him being extremely clinical, extremely masterful, and extremely vicious

He does showboat a bit....talks to them a bit, makes mocking gestures, shakes his head etc.

Thing is if he's clinical and vicious in this one....then he'll win inside 5 rounds tops and he'll hand out such a one sided drubbing it'll be embarrassing. I wonder if he'll try and drag it out to make it seem like it was worth people stumping up for.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Driscoll on February 15, 2017, 10:02:30 PM
I doubt McGregor could even do a full 12 rounds of hard sparring how he expected to do it against Mayweather. Awful idea to what would be an awful and pointless fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ralphy on February 15, 2017, 10:13:31 PM
whats the point - it's like asking a cricketer to go off and play baseball

If it's in a boxing ring mayweather eats him alive and vice-a-versa if it's in the octagon. Completely different sports and completely different skill sets

the entire idea beggars belief really and is a sad indictment on both boxing and UFC in the modern era :( 


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on February 15, 2017, 10:57:43 PM
Dana White wont want his cash cow away from UFC for six months to train, fight and recover...

... especially given he will earn a fortune compared to what Dana usually gives him. He might not fight again and just count his dollars.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 15, 2017, 11:16:15 PM
Mayweather and White have both said that it is nowhere close to being done.

Floyd sent McGregor a message on social media saying that he needs to take care of his "UFC stuff" and then talk to him. Essentially, telling him to talk to his boss. No way in hell that White is letting him fight before the contract is up. If he tries to go around them, it will get tied up in court until Floyd is ACTUALLY retired. Would be a waste of a career to take on a billion dollar company.

Conor hates the fact that he is an employee of the UFC and it kills him when Floyd points this out. I think this could be the beginning of the end for Conor. I don't think he will be able to spend another two years or so in the UFC fighting for a few million at a time. In the back of his head, he will be thinking about how they stopped him from making $100 million in a night.  


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 15, 2017, 11:34:22 PM
Mayweather and White have both said that it is nowhere close to being done.

Floyd sent McGregor a message on social media saying that he needs to take care of his "UFC stuff" and then talk to him. Essentially, telling him to talk to his boss. No way in hell that White is letting him fight before the contract is up. If he tries to go around them, it will get tied up in court until Floyd is ACTUALLY retired. Would be a waste of a career to take on a billion dollar company.

Conor hates the fact that he is an employee of the UFC and it kills him when Floyd points this out. I think this could be the beginning of the end for Conor. I don't think he will be able to spend another two years or so in the UFC fighting for a few million at a time. In the back of his head, he will be thinking about how they stopped him from making $100 million in a night.  

Surely he could chuck the UFC a reaction of the money he will make from this fight in exchange for them allowing him to breach contract in a one time deal.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on February 16, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
Didn't Mcgregor already point out that UFC fighters under contract have been allowed to compete in other combat tournaments not connected to the UFC in the past. I guess he needs to read his contract.

We are talking about huge TV networks involved.  The UFC will lose out if they are the only obstacle.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 16, 2017, 09:29:28 AM
Surely he could chuck the UFC a reaction of the money he will make from this fight in exchange for them allowing him to breach contract in a one time deal.

The model that the UFC has created allows them to take the majority of the ppv dollars with UFC events. With this fight, Floyd would want at least half (if not more) of the ppv dollars. An even split of the rest would leave Conor and the UFC with less than a third of the profits. I would imagine that what the UFC take from a regular UFC ppv event is more than, or in the range of, what they would get if they split a ppv three ways with Floyd and Conor.

 It makes very little business sense for the UFC to allow this to happen. Even if a three-way split allowed them gain slightly more than what they normally would from a regular ppv, they would be endangering their business model. The message would be sent that fighters can strike out into business for themselves and it would take attention away from their sport.

Conor's attempt to draw parallels between fighters being allowed to compete in grappling tournaments is weak. Those tournaments do not produce hundreds of millions of dollars, or promote a sport that competes with the UFC for ppv dollars. Also, it is not a given that they can compete in those tournaments. Bellator just recently prevented Sonnen from competing in one.

As I said, Conor may ruin his career trying to chase this down. He really does believe that he is bigger than the UFC at this point and believes he should be paid as such. Even though this fight was never going to be a reality, he will view it as the UFC preventing him from a major payday. I can't see him settling for peanuts in four more UFC fights.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on February 16, 2017, 10:11:03 AM
Perhaps a co-promotion between UFC & Mayweather Promotions ?

UFC take all the sales via their usual channels and Mayweather takes the Sho box office etc - or they pool the lot and decide a split.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 16, 2017, 11:14:05 AM
The model that the UFC has created allows them to take the majority of the ppv dollars with UFC events. With this fight, Floyd would want at least half (if not more) of the ppv dollars. An even split of the rest would leave Conor and the UFC with less than a third of the profits. I would imagine that what the UFC take from a regular UFC ppv event is more than, or in the range of, what they would get if they split a ppv three ways with Floyd and Conor.

 It makes very little business sense for the UFC to allow this to happen. Even if a three-way split allowed them gain slightly more than what they normally would from a regular ppv, they would be endangering their business model. The message would be sent that fighters can strike out into business for themselves and it would take attention away from their sport.

Conor's attempt to draw parallels between fighters being allowed to compete in grappling tournaments is weak. Those tournaments do not produce hundreds of millions of dollars, or promote a sport that competes with the UFC for ppv dollars. Also, it is not a given that they can compete in those tournaments. Bellator just recently prevented Sonnen from competing in one.

As I said, Conor may ruin his career trying to chase this down. He really does believe that he is bigger than the UFC at this point and believes he should be paid as such. Even though this fight was never going to be a reality, he will view it as the UFC preventing him from a major payday. I can't see him settling for peanuts in four more UFC fights.

I just think Conor often gets his way with the UFC and if he were to refuse to fight for them again should they block this fight then they'll be loosing even more money then what they would just allowing him a one off v Mayweather.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Laney on February 16, 2017, 11:52:54 AM
Don't know if I'm missing something here but isn't mcgregors contract with the UFC for MMA bouts? If he wants to have a boxing bout how can the UFC stand in the way?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on February 16, 2017, 11:56:14 AM
Don't know if I'm missing something here but isn't mcgregors contract with the UFC for MMA bouts? If he wants to have a boxing bout how can the UFC stand in the way?

It's probably the same as most employment contracts.  My contract at work is to do law but I'd still have to get permission to go and do a few shifts down my local pub or whatever.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 16, 2017, 12:09:51 PM
It's probably the same as most employment contracts.  My contract at work is to do law but I'd still have to get permission to go and do a few shifts down my local pub or whatever.

Conflict of interest?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on February 16, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Conflict of interest?

How so?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on February 16, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
It's probably the same as most employment contracts.  My contract at work is to do law but I'd still have to get permission to go and do a few shifts down my local pub or whatever.

Most employment contracts hire your time say 40 hours per week across 5 days of the week.  But if you worked in a pub on the Saturday... all you need to do is tell the tax man of the additional income. You don't need to tell your main employer.

I might be wrong but i assume mcgregor gets paid only when he fights. If he is salaried then he needs to read clauses in his contract.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 16, 2017, 12:30:48 PM
How so?

No I mean is that the reasoning behind this or does it come under something else?

You'd think McGregor having a boxing match would technically be a conflict of interest as it will certainly get in the way of his UFC career.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on February 16, 2017, 01:06:18 PM
No I mean is that the reasoning behind this or does it come under something else?

You'd think McGregor having a boxing match would technically be a conflict of interest as it will certainly get in the way of his UFC career.

Ah, right.  I imagine it would be seen as detrimental to his ability to perform his UFC contract.  On top of that there is the potential for the brand image of the UFC to be damaged once McGregor gets dominated by Floyd.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 16, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
There is no way a multi billion dollar company like UFC will not put a clause in fighters contracts that prohibits all outside activities unless sanctioned by UFC. From what I remember reading Ronda Rousey needed permission to appear at Wrestlemania

I still don't see how this happens. UFC will look 2nd rate to boxing when McGregor gets beat. He is there biggest star. Why would they let him? If he then chooses to retire they will create a new start but they won't want to make their promotion look 2nd rate whilst he is still their main draw


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on February 16, 2017, 01:47:37 PM
Though you could argue that the UFC's reputation will get damaged if they prevent the fight from happening because they know he has no hope of winning. They can't say the same for boxing as at least boxers have tried UFC... and lost.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on February 16, 2017, 02:02:16 PM
Ah, right.  I imagine it would be seen as detrimental to his ability to perform his UFC contract.  On top of that there is the potential for the brand image of the UFC to be damaged once McGregor gets dominated by Floyd.

I think you could be spot on there...UFC are all about the money but maybe they'd rather lose some then allow their biggest asset to be systematically beat up in the boxing ring.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 16, 2017, 08:10:47 PM
There is no way a multi billion dollar company like UFC will not put a clause in fighters contracts that prohibits all outside activities unless sanctioned by UFC. From what I remember reading Ronda Rousey needed permission to appear at Wrestlemania

I still don't see how this happens. UFC will look 2nd rate to boxing when McGregor gets beat. He is there biggest star. Why would they let him? If he then chooses to retire they will create a new start but they won't want to make their promotion look 2nd rate whilst he is still their main draw

Exactly. Let's split a pot three ways, bring a bunch of our casual fans over to boxing, and have our main man get battered and embarrassed. Doesn't make dollars or sense. An embarrassing loss would probably hurt the casual interest in Conor's last four UFC fights. That is if he even continued fighting after that. One Mayweather fight --even after a three-way split-- would probably dwarf what he would make in four fights with the UFC. Could see him retiring and trying to go into promoting.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on February 16, 2017, 09:18:03 PM
His contract will be water tight ,

These guys can't go skiing without permission never mind box a multimillion coz office boxing match...



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: taff on February 18, 2017, 03:33:01 PM
UFC fighters are allowed grappling matches in SUG organization so why not boxing matches? Mind you dana white will want a bite of the cherry


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on February 18, 2017, 04:34:14 PM
Surely the fact that (apparently) Dana White made an offer to Mayweather around a month ago suggests that they're not against this fight happening.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 18, 2017, 04:35:36 PM
UFC fighters are allowed grappling matches in SUG organization so why not boxing matches? Mind you dana white will want a bite of the cherry


They have to get permission for it. Also grappling matches don't generate hundreds of millions of dollars, nor does grappling compete with the UFC as a popular sport and for PPV dollars.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on February 18, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
Surely the fact that (apparently) Dana White made an offer to Mayweather around a month ago suggests that they're not against this fight happening.

It was a non-offer. It was from the perspective that UFC would be promoting the show and deciding the pay outs. Giving Floyd $25 mil for a fight? They know full well that he wouldn't even consider something so low. Granted, it is a huge amount of money for everyone else in the business.

Floyd wants to promote the fight and take the lion's share. UFC is uninterested in being a partner in a promotion, as it is not how they function as a business. The fight will never happen.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 11, 2017, 06:46:28 PM
Funny interview with Mayweather today on Mcgregor. ''I've officially out of retirement for Connor Mcgregor, lets make the fight in june.''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2EKIj_pElo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2EKIj_pElo)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on March 11, 2017, 07:23:31 PM
The more I think about this fight, the more I believe that McGregor wins...strictly on the proviso that Floyd detaches both of his achilles during the fight


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on March 11, 2017, 09:57:36 PM
The more I think about this fight, the more I believe that McGregor wins...strictly on the proviso that Floyd detaches both of his achilles during the fight

Still go the distance.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Chris on March 14, 2017, 12:36:11 PM
Apparently this is confirmed now for June in Vegas.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 14, 2017, 02:54:48 PM
Apparently this is confirmed now for June in Vegas.
I can't see it happening in June. Floyd wants to give Connor 10 million for the fight. This fight ain't happening if both fighters are pricing themselves out of it. Floyds putting pressure on Mcgregor on social media with the date because it will make Connor look bad if he doesn't agree to it. I think originally Mcgregor said september. It's a clever move from Floyd but that date is a smoke screen

If I was Mcgregor i'd play this out until next year. Floyd made a career out waiting for fighters to get past their prime and old. Floyd needs Mcgregor not the other way around.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 16, 2017, 07:38:13 PM
Dana White has given this fight the go a head. Assuming Floyd gives Conors a fair price this is actually going to happen...... Bloody hell

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10803660/floyd-mayweather-vs-conor-mcgregor-will-happen-says-ufc-president-dana-white (http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10803660/floyd-mayweather-vs-conor-mcgregor-will-happen-says-ufc-president-dana-white)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on March 17, 2017, 02:20:17 AM
Lip service from White. Will believe it when I see it.

No way in hell all three egos will come out happy. Think it is more a matter of him deciding to kill it at the negotiating table, rather than through a public forum. Can already hear the company tag line, "We OK'd the fight, but Conor didn't come to the table with reasonable demands."

Floyd will want the lion's share. UFC will want the lion's share of the leftovers. McGregor will want to give them "step aside money". Fight goes nowhere.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Forest on March 18, 2017, 10:30:32 AM
McGregor is a right tit. Just saw him on Michael Conlan's debut and he was getting his face out there every chance he got. Think he just likes the limelight more than anything.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: SCOTTY'S SOBER on March 18, 2017, 06:24:59 PM
McGregor is a right tit. Just saw him on Michael Conlan's debut and he was getting his face out there every chance he got. Think he just likes the limelight more than anything.
all I heard was his voice that whole fight telling conlan how to box haha boy needs taken down a peg or 2.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on March 18, 2017, 08:36:52 PM
McGregor is a right tit. Just saw him on Michael Conlan's debut and he was getting his face out there every chance he got. Think he just likes the limelight more than anything.

Suppose he's selling the fight.....

He's in a no lose position really, not expected to trouble Floyd but he has a ready made excuse to fall back on with it not being his sport. He'll make more money than he'd have ever dreamed possible. And though Floyd is one of the finest fighters of his era, he's not a scary guy who tends to do major damage to his opposition and he's not getting any younger.

Though I do think that Mayweather will be spiteful in this one, especially since McGregor is likely to p*ss him off by getting the better of the pre-fight hype.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 19, 2017, 01:12:15 PM
Mcgregor ranting at the boxing media last night  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=nQeISn7ttek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=nQeISn7ttek)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jonjoe on March 19, 2017, 04:51:40 PM
I see a lot of people getting on McGregor's case over this potential fight and I can't for the life of me understand why.

Should the fight be competitive? No. Will the protagonists make a shed load of money? Yes. Will every single f**ker on this site pay the £17.95 for it? Yes (or will watch it via illegal means). For crying out loud, I'm sure that everyone on here watched the fight against Carlos bloody Baldomir back in the day.

Whatever you think of the credentials of this fight there is absolutely no doubting that it sells, if even as a freak show.  Anybody who wants to run it down needs to take a step back and have a look at the business that is staring them in the face.

Regarding McGregor's attendance at the Conlan fight, that was all show. I'm glad that Conlan had invited McGregor to take part in the whole event because if he hadn't of then McGregor somewhat stealing the limelight on Conlan's debut would have been inexcusable. I do that in the context of the situation McGregor should have reigned it in a little, took the back seat a little more and allowed Conlan to have his little bit of time in the sun.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: G-man on March 19, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
I see a lot of people getting on McGregor's case over this potential fight and I can't for the life of me understand why.
 
Because he's not actually very good at boxing.

I'm not arsed how much 'business sense' it makes - it's ridiculous.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 19, 2017, 07:24:39 PM
Regarding McGregor's attendance at the Conlan fight, that was all show. I'm glad that Conlan had invited McGregor to take part in the whole event because if he hadn't of then McGregor somewhat stealing the limelight on Conlan's debut would have been inexcusable. I do that in the context of the situation McGregor should have reigned it in a little, took the back seat a little more and allowed Conlan to have his little bit of time in the sun.

On the flip side, the publicity generated for Conlan because he had one of the worlds biggest superstars by his side would have been huge in raising his profile. Yeah connor used the situ for his own benefit but so did Conlan. Win/win.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on March 19, 2017, 11:25:16 PM
I can't believe this fight is going to happen.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: TC on March 20, 2017, 08:56:10 AM
Will every single f**ker on this site pay the £17.95 for it? Yes (or will watch it via illegal means).

Don't be ridiculous.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jonjoe on March 20, 2017, 09:39:47 AM
Don't be ridiculous.

What's ridiculous? The thought of people streaming or the comment as a whole?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 24, 2017, 01:29:37 PM
Bob Arum claiming the UFC want 50% of Mcgregors purse to fight Mayweather. Looks like the UFC are the only hurdle left for this fight to happen.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/3/23/15042738/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-ufc-50-percent-purse-boxing-mma-news (http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/3/23/15042738/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-ufc-50-percent-purse-boxing-mma-news)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: TC on March 24, 2017, 04:40:37 PM
What's ridiculous? The thought of people streaming or the comment as a whole?

The bit that I pulled out before commenting. It's insulting to many people on this forum to suggest they are arsed about watching a pisstake boxing exhibition. I'd rather watch Rocky v Thunderlips II.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on March 24, 2017, 04:44:53 PM
Bob Arum claiming the UFC want 50% of Mcgregors purse to fight Mayweather. Looks like the UFC are the only hurdle left for this fight to happen.

[url]http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/3/23/15042738/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-ufc-50-percent-purse-boxing-mma-news[/url] ([url]http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/3/23/15042738/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-ufc-50-percent-purse-boxing-mma-news[/url])


It's a ridiculous ask but logically it's still a massive pay day for Conor. Much more worth while then anything MMA can offer him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Forest on March 24, 2017, 07:11:48 PM
The bit that I pulled out before commenting. It's insulting to many people on this forum to suggest they are arsed about watching a pisstake boxing exhibition. I'd rather watch Rocky v Thunderlips II.

I'd watch that!


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 25, 2017, 12:29:43 AM
It's a ridiculous ask but logically it's still a massive pay day for Conor. Much more worth while then anything MMA can offer him.

The UFC are shiting themselves right now. It's a lose lose situation for them. The UFC don't want mcgregor earning 50 times what he normally gets with this boxing match. Can you imagine the demands Connor would make and the power he would have if they did?  Thats why they're asking for half. If Mayweather wants to give Mcgregor 20mil and the UFC want half that then it's not that much more than what he's already on.

If Mcgregor manages to negotiate 60 mil with 20% of that to the UFC then the UFC are F***ed. they'll have zero control over connor after that and have one big pain in their arse with Mcgregor demands. Theres no guarantee Mcgregor would return after a mega payday like that either. He's achieved his dream of 2 weight classes, he doesn't fancy Khabib. Whats left??

I think Mcgregor wants to cash in and cash out and sail off into the sun set. He's been saying it since he got into the UFC.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on March 25, 2017, 09:47:32 AM
The UFC are shiting themselves right now. It's a lose lose situation for them. The UFC don't want mcgregor earning 50 times what he normally gets with this boxing match. Can you imagine the demands Connor would make and the power he would have if they did?  Thats why they're asking for half. If Mayweather wants to give Mcgregor 20mil and the UFC want half that then it's not that much more than what he's already on.

If Mcgregor manages to negotiate 60 mil with 20% of that to the UFC then the UFC are F***ed. they'll have zero control over connor after that and have one big pain in their arse with Mcgregor demands. Theres no guarantee Mcgregor would return after a mega payday like that either. He's achieved his dream of 2 weight classes, he doesn't fancy Khabib. Whats left??

I think Mcgregor wants to cash in and cash out and sail off into the sun set. He's been saying it since he got into the UFC.

He doesn't fancy Khabib.  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on March 25, 2017, 09:55:14 AM
He doesn't fancy Khabib.  ;D
I was going to mention that bit as well..

If he doesn't fancy him it's because Khabib needs to actually turn up to a fight once every few years the sick note.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 25, 2017, 05:53:06 PM
He doesn't fancy Khabib.  ;D
;D

I was going to mention that bit as well..

If he doesn't fancy him it's because Khabib needs to actually turn up to a fight once every few years the sick note.

Khabib would maul Connor if he got his hands on him. Thats probably the most dangerous fight for him at Lightweight. And yes Khabib is not a guaranteed to show if the fight was signed, but he knew that going into thet Aldo fight and Aldo pulled. If you have a mandatory you have to face him. I don't think Connor wants fergusson either.

If he doesn't want to defend his belt then where does he go? Diaz? It's highly likely that he doesn't return if he gets the money he wants in a bout with Mayweather. Or he does face diaz then calls it quits. I couldn't care less about Nate, he's not even top 5 at lightweight. Defend your belt agaist someone who has earned that shot.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on March 25, 2017, 11:50:32 PM
;D

Khabib would maul Connor if he got his hands on him. Thats probably the most dangerous fight for him at Lightweight. And yes Khabib is not a guaranteed to show if the fight was signed, but he knew that going into thet Aldo fight and Aldo pulled. If you have a mandatory you have to face him. I don't think Connor wants fergusson either.

If he doesn't want to defend his belt then where does he go? Diaz? It's highly likely that he doesn't return if he gets the money he wants in a bout with Mayweather. Or he does face diaz then calls it quits. I couldn't care less about Nate, he's not even top 5 at lightweight. Defend your belt agaist someone who has earned that shot.

Haven't you learnt anything from your Alvarez ramblings pre UFC 205? Apparently he was going to chew Conor up and spit him out according to you as well. If Michael Johnson can hurt Khabib then Conor will send him into next week.

His next fight after this Mayweather shenanigans is over I would say is likely some sort of catchweight with a Woodley or a GSP. Do I agree with that? No but McGregor writes his own ticket now and deservedly so.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on March 26, 2017, 03:52:54 AM
Haven't you learnt anything from your Alvarez ramblings pre UFC 205? Apparently he was going to chew Conor up and spit him out according to you as well. If Michael Johnson can hurt Khabib then Conor will send him into next week.

His next fight after this Mayweather shenanigans is over I would say is likely some sort of catchweight with a Woodley or a GSP. Do I agree with that? No but McGregor writes his own ticket now and deservedly so.

(https://media.tenor.co/images/984e0b799e0c6d84fbf6a5aaadf26184/raw)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on April 05, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
Well like it or not this fight is actually going to happen. The weight is being negotiated and Mayweather doesn't want to budge from 147. As if he hasn't a tone of advantages as it is. He's fighting a complete novice.  //
http://mmajunkie.com/2017/04/conor-mcgregor-already-training-for-floyd-mayweather-says-coach-john-kavanagh (http://mmajunkie.com/2017/04/conor-mcgregor-already-training-for-floyd-mayweather-says-coach-john-kavanagh)

The more I look at this fight the more of a farce it is.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on April 06, 2017, 08:38:13 AM
Well like it or not this fight is actually going to happen. The weight is being negotiated and Mayweather doesn't want to budge from 147. As if he hasn't a tone of advantages as it is. He's fighting a complete novice.  //
[url]http://mmajunkie.com/2017/04/conor-mcgregor-already-training-for-floyd-mayweather-says-coach-john-kavanagh[/url] ([url]http://mmajunkie.com/2017/04/conor-mcgregor-already-training-for-floyd-mayweather-says-coach-john-kavanagh[/url])

The more I look at this fight the more of a farce it is.




It'll happen....because it makes sense to them both though you're bang on about it being a farce.

For McGregor its the chance to make more money in one fight than he would in a probably 4 careers with the UFC. He can take this fight, get filthy rich and the loss he can always discount by pointing out it wasn't his sport. He has nothing to lose really and everything to gain.

For Mayweather.....its the chance to make stupid money for easy work, and the chance to be in the sporting worlds spotlight once more which of course he craves being the ultimate attention whore. He has more to lose cus a loss would be horrendous for his legacy, but the chances of that are basically nil so its worth the teeny, tiny risk.

For the sporting world, TV, etc its a huge event which will capture the imagination of boxing fans, UFC fans and casual sports fans. This will be blown up to ridiculous proportions and a lot of money will be made for lots of people off the back of it.

As a boxing fan....I hope that Mayweather absolutely batters McGregor. I prefer McGregon as a person, but this is about boxings credibility.  And if McGregor did someone manages to find a 'miracle' then it would be terrible for the sport of boxing. But that is a teeny, tiny, minor worry and I think this will be so easy for Mayweather he'll have to carry McGregor to provide any value to the fans.

But I actually think he'll be spiteful in this fight, have a little look and see what McGregor has got power wise for a minute of two and then he'll look to dismantle and bust him up. It should be over and done with inside 6 rounds of completely one-sided action. I don't discount McGregor doing something daft and getting himself DQ'd once he realises he's booked for a vicious beating and stands no chance....but I would imagine clauses will be put in the contract stating that if McGregor does anything crazy then he'll not get paid.

It'll be hyped to hell but it'll be the biggest PPV mismatch in history. As a sporting contest it is an absolute joke. But I think the UFC fans will lap this sh*t up and many will actually think McGregor will win....I've already seen it happening with youtube comments etc. I have a slight interest in what the odds will be like, if UFC fans are daft enough to back Connor then there could be some money to be made on Floyd.

All in all its a joke....but with so much money to be made for all concerned, how can it not happen?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: TC on April 06, 2017, 11:59:59 AM
Spot on.

Just had a look, you can get evens on Mayweather to win by stoppage.

I know Mcgregor can take a punch but that is crazy.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on April 06, 2017, 01:28:30 PM
Bit like Johnny Wilkinson V Alan Shearer at penalties.

Wilkinson might of scored a couple though i'd expect shearer to score a whole lot more


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on April 06, 2017, 02:06:04 PM
Spot on.

Just had a look, you can get evens on Mayweather to win by stoppage.

I know Mcgregor can take a punch but that is crazy.

Indeed....especially considering that McGregor isn't used to fighting anywhere near 12 rounds, hasn't the boxing experience to go into survival mode when he starts geting beat up, and isn't British domestic level never mind elite world level to begin with.

Those are very tempting odds. And I think it'll get better closer too when all the UFC fans start foolishly lumping on McGregor!


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on April 06, 2017, 03:12:21 PM
Not sure if UFC fans give McGregor much chance tbh....mainly the casuals who will be backing him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on April 06, 2017, 07:59:50 PM
It'll happen....because it makes sense to them both though you're bang on about it being a farce.

But I actually think he'll be spiteful in this fight, have a little look and see what McGregor has got power wise for a minute of two and then he'll look to dismantle and bust him up. It should be over and done with inside 6 rounds of completely one-sided action. I don't discount McGregor doing something daft and getting himself DQ'd once he realises he's booked for a vicious beating and stands no chance....but I would imagine clauses will be put in the contract stating that if McGregor does anything crazy then he'll not get paid.

It'll be hyped to hell but it'll be the biggest PPV mismatch in history. As a sporting contest it is an absolute joke. But I think the UFC fans will lap this sh*t up and many will actually think McGregor will win....I've already seen it happening with youtube comments etc. I have a slight interest in what the odds will be like, if UFC fans are daft enough to back Connor then there could be some money to be made on Floyd.

All in all its a joke....but with so much money to be made for all concerned, how can it not happen?

I pretty much agree with everything you said. It will probably be a typical Mayweather fight until he sees Connor getting tired. (floyd is never one to take risks now is he). Mcgregor has a left hand.....thats it. He has nothing else as a boxer. Floyd will go in for the kill once he sees Mcgregor starting to gas. Mcgregor was fighting in slow motion against Nate in both fights after the first round. Can you imagine what Mayweather will do to him if conor fights like that?  :o

This fight is all about the $$$$$$$. It's a joke. It's a spectacle an unmissable spectacle. It's the most spectacular freakshow in sporting history. And to think Joe Rogan actually gives Connor a great chance of winning.  ;D

Even dana White, despite all his objections has changed his tune.
"I am [working on the deal]. listen, does it make a bunch of sense for my business? No.''
"But Conor has been a guy who has stepped up in times of need here, in big fights when an opponent fell out, so I want to do this for Conor. I want him to be able to make this kind of money.''
He's changed his tune.

I don't know whether you've seen this but its an interview with andre Burto describing what it's like fighting floyd. It's the most revealing break down i've ever heard from a fighter. If Berto couldn't lay a glove on floyd, how the hell is Conor? It's the easiest 100 mil Floyd has ever made and this interview puts it into perspective.

ANDRE BERTO DESCRIBES WHAT FIGHTING FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS LIKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw)

BERTO GIVES CONOR MCGREGOR BEST ADVICE FOR MAYWEATHER CLASH; BREAKS DOWN FIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on April 07, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
Jeffry Mayweathet, the only sane one of the lot, has said that UFC is asking for 80% of Conor's earnings. By my estimation, Conor is looking to make about 8% of the actual proceeds. After taxes, he will be lucky to walk away with 20 million. Not nearly the record setting pay day that he imagined it to be. It is why Ihave been saying that this fight will not happen.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jaff_no1 on April 07, 2017, 01:46:22 PM
Jeffry Mayweathet, the only sane one of the lot, has said that UFC is asking for 80% of Conor's earnings. By my estimation, Conor is looking to make about 8% of the actual proceeds. After taxes, he will be lucky to walk away with 20 million. Not nearly the record setting pay day that he imagined it to be. It is why Ihave been saying that this fight will not happen.
If he does make 20 million for this how many fights would he have to fight in UFC to make that amount though?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on April 07, 2017, 01:51:51 PM
I pretty much agree with everything you said. It will probably be a typical Mayweather fight until he sees Connor getting tired. (floyd is never one to take risks now is he). Mcgregor has a left hand.....thats it. He has nothing else as a boxer. Floyd will go in for the kill once he sees Mcgregor starting to gas. Mcgregor was fighting in slow motion against Nate in both fights after the first round. Can you imagine what Mayweather will do to him if conor fights like that?  :o

This fight is all about the $$$$$$$. It's a joke. It's a spectacle an unmissable spectacle. It's the most spectacular freakshow in sporting history. And to think Joe Rogan actually gives Connor a great chance of winning.  ;D

Even dana White, despite all his objections has changed his tune.
"I am [working on the deal]. listen, does it make a bunch of sense for my business? No.''
"But Conor has been a guy who has stepped up in times of need here, in big fights when an opponent fell out, so I want to do this for Conor. I want him to be able to make this kind of money.''
He's changed his tune.

I don't know whether you've seen this but its an interview with andre Burto describing what it's like fighting floyd. It's the most revealing break down i've ever heard from a fighter. If Berto couldn't lay a glove on floyd, how the hell is Conor? It's the easiest 100 mil Floyd has ever made and this interview puts it into perspective.

ANDRE BERTO DESCRIBES WHAT FIGHTING FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS LIKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw)

BERTO GIVES CONOR MCGREGOR BEST ADVICE FOR MAYWEATHER CLASH; BREAKS DOWN FIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJczoxTiQjY)

Yeah seen them the other day....very honest appraisal by Berto. Didn't seem bitter just matter of fact. Mayweather basically pickpocketed most of his opposition in his later fights, by winning but avoiding an actual fight breaking out. Can't take it away from him how clever/shrewd Mayweather was in all aspects of a fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on April 07, 2017, 05:26:46 PM
If he does make 20 million for this how many fights would he have to fight in UFC to make that amount though?

I think it would be two or three fights. As Mayweather said, it is more money than than he has ever earned before, but it is a bitter pill to swallow because he created the event and he is fighting.

I was saying 20 million (after taxes), based on the fight making 400 million. I think that is even an optimistic estimate. Others have said this will be the highest grossing fight of all times, but it won't even come close. The purists from both sports won't bite on the same scale that they do for genuine main events. People also aren't taking into account the amount of crossover buys.

A good portion of MMA fans are also boxing fans. They aren't completely separate populations, yet they appreciate each sport separately. This is like saying to them, "Hey, you like boxing? You like MMA? Great, here is none of that!"

I think I have been pretty accurate on how the money would break down. I have said that it would not make sense for Conor to go through with this fight, because he is essentially making two other entities all of the money and being given a earnings that arent too dissimilar to his MMA cash. The only way I could see him going through with this is if they lie to him on the potential buys.

If he does go through with it, I don't see it selling well and he'll make less than he thinks. Still don't see it happening.





Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on April 08, 2017, 12:03:52 AM
If Mcgregors next fight isn't against mayweather after all this talk.  It will be such an anticlimax for him irregardless of his next ufc opponent. The UFC pay will be so poor after flirting with the prospect of a once in a lifetime deal. He may well lose all motivation if this falls through because of other peoples greed getting paid off his work. What will the UFC actually do to earn their keep in a boxing event. Ziltch.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on April 08, 2017, 02:37:28 AM
If Mcgregors next fight isn't against mayweather after all this talk.  It will be such an anticlimax for him irregardless of his next ufc opponent. The UFC pay will be so poor after flirting with the prospect of a once in a lifetime deal. He may well lose all motivation if this falls through because of other peoples greed getting paid off his work. What will the UFC actually do to earn their keep in a boxing event. Ziltch.

Exactly. He has put himself in between a rock and a hard place. He has chased down a massive payday that he will not be able to cash in on. He either takes and admits that Dana is his boss and he will be paid as such, walks away and makes much less money and admits Dana is his boss, or fights it legally. I think his pride will prevent him from selecting the first two. Legally, it will take forever. As I have said, this could be the end of his career, regardless of the option he chooses.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on April 08, 2017, 09:31:20 AM
I don't really understand the White is his boss thing. Maybe its overly simplistic, but can't McGregor just announce he'll never fight UFC again and is retired. But surely he's entitled to compete in a different sport, take the fight against Mayweather. Get his arse kicked but earn a fortune and then live a life.

Or has McGregor signed a contract that states he'll not compete in any other sport without White's permission?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on April 08, 2017, 12:21:53 PM
I don't really understand the White is his boss thing. Maybe its overly simplistic, but can't McGregor just announce he'll never fight UFC again and is retired. But surely he's entitled to compete in a different sport, take the fight against Mayweather. Get his arse kicked but earn a fortune and then live a life.

Or has McGregor signed a contract that states he'll not compete in any other sport without White's permission?

I think the grips of the contract are apparent by the way the UFC has been able to implant itself on the negotiations. The question is very warranted though, because I do not think there is a clear answer to any of that.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on April 08, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
I think the grips of the contract are apparent by the way the UFC has been able to implant itself on the negotiations. The question is very warranted though, because I do not think there is a clear answer to any of that.

Dana usually says that fighters contracts state the last part of what you think. Given Conor's value I doubt he can breath unless Dana says so.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on April 08, 2017, 01:36:38 PM
Exactly. He has put himself in between a rock and a hard place. He has chased down a massive payday that he will not be able to cash in on. He either takes and admits that Dana is his boss and he will be paid as such, walks away and makes much less money and admits Dana is his boss, or fights it legally. I think his pride will prevent him from selecting the first two. Legally, it will take forever. As I have said, this could be the end of his career, regardless of the option he chooses.

I guess the only way he can look at this situation is that he is cashing in relative to his next big fight in the UFC. Can you imagine if he has 1% of success against mayweather and loses. They will be lining him up to fight manny or canelo next. Its all relative to what his usuall UFC purse is. If he compares it to self employed mayweather then he is on a slippery slope.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on April 10, 2017, 03:11:42 PM
I guess the only way he can look at this situation is that he is cashing in relative to his next big fight in the UFC. Can you imagine if he has 1% of success against mayweather and loses. They will be lining him up to fight manny or canelo next. Its all relative to what his usuall UFC purse is. If he compares it to self employed mayweather then he is on a slippery slope.

Good point...

One other aspect of this potential match-up that I've started to think about more and more is the fact that Conor's MMA background probably won't do him any harm when he's on the inside...I'm specifically thinking about in terms of grabbing, holding, tying Floyd up etc...

Deep down, he must know he has no chance of winning when it comes to boxing, he must know that he really only has a (lucky) puncher's chance, so perhaps he will just try to spoil, spoil, spoil, and would rather go out losing on a DQ (think of Henry Akinwande against Lennox Lewis) than getting outboxed etc...if he were to spoil, grab, hold etc and lose on  a DQ, I think that the UFC would be quite pleased with that because it would be far better for their brand than Conor being on the receiving end of a boxing clinic...he could just continue to grab, hold, spoil etc until he gets thrown out, and I'm thinking that his MMA background would help him to look after himself on the inside in that respect...especially given Floyd's age (40), he's probably not going to doing a lot of moving, he'll probably fight more in the pocket, which could suit Conor in terms of getting close to Floyd and basically spoiling...the other fight that comes to mind is Bonecrusher Smith's performance against Mike Tyson (he basically held and cuddled Tyson for the entire fight)...

And IF he can land that (lucky) punch, then all good...


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on April 10, 2017, 04:05:22 PM
Dana White claiming this is all bullsh*t. Conor probably isn't legally allowed to talk about the contract and he hates that other parties are able to weigh in. Told Bob Arum to f*ck off after he suggested that even a 50-50 split would be robbery.

Thought he could kill this at the negotiating table, but quickly finding out why he was a sh*t as a boxing promoter until he inherited the monopoly that is the UFC. Not as easy to bend people when you are not the only shark in the pond. Guy is a crook.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on April 10, 2017, 04:33:26 PM
Jeff Mayweathers response to Dana White calling him a piece of shit.

Never thought i'd say this about a Mayweather but... he seems like a classy guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRlr7Dfz9Ic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRlr7Dfz9Ic)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on April 10, 2017, 10:21:53 PM
I think he seems pretty credible.

Essentially said, he doesn't like it because I let people know the way he runs his business. Floyd's money is his (60%) and the 80/20 is of the remaining 40. In fairness though, I think Dana called Arum a piece of sh*t. He just said that him and Jeff go way back and asked if he speaks for team Mayweather.

He is Floyd's uncle and he and Dana both admit they go way back together and have a history, so I think it is more than possible that this is true. Dana getting so mad also suggests that there is some truth to it. If it was so outrageous he would have laughed it off, like he does everything else when the chips are in his corner. Him with that sh*t eating grin as he said Conor would set himself up for an "epic fall" if he tried to fight this legally. Scumbag has made a career out of underpaying people.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on April 11, 2017, 07:44:23 AM
Good point...

One other aspect of this potential match-up that I've started to think about more and more is the fact that Conor's MMA background probably won't do him any harm when he's on the inside...I'm specifically thinking about in terms of grabbing, holding, tying Floyd up etc...

Deep down, he must know he has no chance of winning when it comes to boxing, he must know that he really only has a (lucky) puncher's chance, so perhaps he will just try to spoil, spoil, spoil, and would rather go out losing on a DQ (think of Henry Akinwande against Lennox Lewis) than getting outboxed etc...if he were to spoil, grab, hold etc and lose on  a DQ, I think that the UFC would be quite pleased with that because it would be far better for their brand than Conor being on the receiving end of a boxing clinic...he could just continue to grab, hold, spoil etc until he gets thrown out, and I'm thinking that his MMA background would help him to look after himself on the inside in that respect...especially given Floyd's age (40), he's probably not going to doing a lot of moving, he'll probably fight more in the pocket, which could suit Conor in terms of getting close to Floyd and basically spoiling...the other fight that comes to mind is Bonecrusher Smith's performance against Mike Tyson (he basically held and cuddled Tyson for the entire fight)...

And IF he can land that (lucky) punch, then all good...

I'd say losing on a deliberate DQ would be far worse all round than taking a beating.  In a fight that could be of the magnitude (however ridiculous it is) of this, it would be one of the biggest quit jobs of all time to go out like that.

 


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: G-man on April 11, 2017, 08:18:54 AM
I'd say losing on a deliberate DQ would be far worse all round than taking a beating.  In a fight that could be of the magnitude (however ridiculous it is) of this, it would be one of the biggest quit jobs of all time to go out like that.

 
His fans who hang off his every word like he's the only person to ever swear would probably find it hilarious although i think it more likely he'd throw a kick to get DQ'd or something once he realises he's in over his head hands only.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on April 11, 2017, 09:42:01 AM
His fans who hang off his every word like he's the only person to ever swear would probably find it hilarious although i think it more likely he'd throw a kick to get DQ'd or something once he realises he's in over his head hands only.

I really do see that as a realistic possibility, he'll resort to some UFC shit if/when he starts getting tanked and can do sweet fa about it. I think the UFC fans would lap that up and see it as some kind of moral victory. The only way I see that kind of thing being completely ruled out is if its written into the contract that if McGregor pulls a stunt like that he won't get paid.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on April 11, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
I'd say losing on a deliberate DQ would be far worse all round than taking a beating.  In a fight that could be of the magnitude (however ridiculous it is) of this, it would be one of the biggest quit jobs of all time to go out like that.

 

The thing is though about this fight is that it's a complete circus act as it is, so a circus ending would not surprise me in the slightest, and no-one can really complain if it does, because how the hell is a man allowed to make his pro boxing debut against arguably the best fighter of the last quarter of a century? The man McGregor is going to "fight" like the boxing version of the 1980's Wimbledon football team (i.e. the crazy gang). Spoil, spoil, spoil, bend the rules as far in his favour as he can (i.e. grabbing, holding etc) and if he gets DQ'd he'll just turn around and say "boxing is for pussies" etc


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on April 12, 2017, 10:24:22 AM
The thing is though about this fight is that it's a complete circus act as it is, so a circus ending would not surprise me in the slightest, and no-one can really complain if it does, because how the hell is a man allowed to make his pro boxing debut against arguably the best fighter of the last quarter of a century? The man McGregor is going to "fight" like the boxing version of the 1980's Wimbledon football team (i.e. the crazy gang). Spoil, spoil, spoil, bend the rules as far in his favour as he can (i.e. grabbing, holding etc) and if he gets DQ'd he'll just turn around and say "boxing is for pussies" etc

The thing is that Mayweather is holding all the cards for this fight so he will probably get Joe Cortez out of retirement to referee it so that McGregor won't even be able to look at him in a way that he doesn't like, let alone get in close and rough him up.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on April 12, 2017, 11:55:43 AM
The headlines are:

1. McGregor wants to get paid
2. McGregor will get pasted
3. Thus McGregor wants more of his slice than Dana is allowing

The end.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on April 12, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
I have a feeling that Mayweather will really get under McGregors skin during the build up and throughout the fight... encouraging him to do something illegal so that the DQ will result in mayweather walking away with 100% of the purse... making easy money a damn sight even easier.

The ref (who ever it is) will be focused on McGregor and not Mayweather... and will be overly strict to the novice... he is going to look embarrassingly amateurish in there. Could be Cringey to watch as mayweather dances around him.     


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on May 18, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
So overnight it seems Dana White has come out and said McGregor's side of the deal is sorted so this whole thing is now 50% of the way there.

Interesting..


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on May 18, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
Mayweather is a shrewd business man as well as precise puncher.

People who only know MMA will be shocked how easy it is for a boxer to outbox any of their fighters.

It has been done before and unless each can perform their own art there is only one result


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 18, 2017, 01:12:39 PM
Mayweather is a shrewd business man as well as precise puncher.

People who only know MMA will be shocked how easy it is for a boxer to outbox any of their fighters.

It has been done before and unless each can perform their own art there is only one result

Even the biggest MMA fans regardless of their knowledge of boxing know how this fight will play out.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on May 19, 2017, 02:02:04 AM
 The Canelo vs GGG fight took the wind out of everyone's sails and brought McGregor down to earth. Think McGregor got a dressing down and was made to fall in line when White made public threats about walking away from the deal. September date was taken and it was all slipping away. Would be willing to bet that McGregor took a pittance in the grand scheme of things. Still, it will be more money than he could ever earn in the UFC.

Now it all comes down to Dana and Floyd -- the two people actually making the money -- to negotiate something to Floyd's liking. I will watch the fight if someone else buys it but there is no way in hell that I will justify this freak show by paying money for it. Bad for both sports, but I use the word sport loosely with UFC at this point. This fight is sort of the summation of what the UFC has become. Anything for entertainment's sake -- regardless of merit or legitimacy.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on May 19, 2017, 02:43:11 AM
Think this article breaks the numbers down really well. Even under the best conditions, the fight is not going to be nearly as lucrative for Conor as people are making it seem. Also, interesting to hear White talk about walking away from it again...

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-nowhere-close-happening-193457357.html


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: motoriser on May 22, 2017, 08:06:10 AM
Its my First Post on this Subject.This Fight,oh sorry I meant this Circus will not return as much Revenue as what Connor is expecting.For him to get anywhere near 75 million cut,it means PPV buys need to exceed 3 million,which they won't.Given how many fans are saying they will stream it for Free,or watch it on replay,or mooch from a UFC fan who has bought it.So already the Numbers will fall way short of the needed Buys to Generate the Revenue needed.Secondly Floyd will Grab Lions share and his side of the Contract will have so many Clauses enough to put off Connor.So after all has been said and done,this Fight won't Top 1.5 million buys and after Floyd Grabs his Lions share,the UFC get their Cut,Connor will be short changed badly.He will be crying about it for the next 10 years.So to cut a long story short,this Event is an Insult to Boxing.It deserves all the scorn its getting from die hard Boxing fans.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: motoriser on May 22, 2017, 08:11:32 AM
Think this article breaks the numbers down really well. Even under the best conditions, the fight is not going to be nearly as lucrative for Conor as people are making it seem. Also, interesting to hear White talk about walking away from it again...

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-nowhere-close-happening-193457357.html
+1.
With backlash from diehard Boxing fans and streaming available.The Fight will fall Significantly short of what the Crazy estimates they assume.Bottom line is Boxing fans are not stupid.They can smell a Rat from Miles away. 


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: motoriser on May 22, 2017, 08:14:26 AM
The headlines are:

1. McGregor wants to get paid
2. McGregor will get pasted
3. Thus McGregor wants more of his slice than Dana is allowing

The end.
Connor-artist will get Paid,but much less than he had estimated.
Connor-artist will come up with a trillion excuses after the fight as to why he did not deliver his promise to stop Floyd.
Connor-artist will try and challenge another High profile Boxer in the future,claiming to have learned a lot from the Floyd schooling.
Only his most Gullible fans will believe him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Boeing787 on May 22, 2017, 12:04:19 PM
I'd personally say this fight will do 2 million plus PPV regardless of whether there is any merit to the fight.
They're both big stars and can do 1-1.5mil each in they're own respective sports.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 22, 2017, 12:31:26 PM
Connor-artist will get Paid,but much less than he had estimated.
Connor-artist will come up with a trillion excuses after the fight as to why he did not deliver his promise to stop Floyd.
Connor-artist will try and challenge another High profile Boxer in the future,claiming to have learned a lot from the Floyd schooling.
Only his most Gullible fans will believe him.

Who exactly is he conning? He's been offered a shed load of money to lose a boxing match to one of the greatest boxers to ever live.

Even if he gets slapped around for 12 rounds it's nothing that Mayweather hasn't done to genuine world class boxers.

He'd be an idiot to not accept.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on May 22, 2017, 06:08:20 PM
If i was gonna get 30mil plus to fight Floyd i'd do it. It's a miss match. Mcgregor might flatter for the 1st three rounds but after that its a onesided beat down. When he gasses, it's all over. Think he'll get stopped in 9/10 rounds.

If this was a contest of real fighting then Floyd wouldn't last 50 seconds with Mcgregor. Conor is doing well doing 10 rounds with one of the greats in a boxing ring.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 22, 2017, 06:33:17 PM
Only way McGregor sees the forth round is if Floyd carries him. Sam Eggington or Bradly Skeete would batter McGregor in a boxing ring.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on May 22, 2017, 07:20:04 PM
There's a write-up in this months boxing monthly about Mayweather promotions and how they've embraced social media in their business and that's Floyd has x amount of millions of followers across all social platforms and that this is the modern method of promotion and getting his young fighters noticed.

I've said from the start that this fight is all about both fighters keeping their name relevant and getting publicity. The more this is reported the more traffic they get, I imagine Facebook/google advertising works in much the same way.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 22, 2017, 11:40:45 PM
Only way McGregor sees the forth round is if Floyd carries him. Sam Eggington or Bradly Skeete would batter McGregor in a boxing ring.

Regardless of boxing ability McGregor has more then proven he can detonate that left hand with accuracy. I think a boxer such as Egginton or Skeete would be daft to forget that, Mayweather doesn't need to care though.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 23, 2017, 07:56:59 AM
Regardless of boxing ability McGregor has more then proven he can detonate that left hand with accuracy. I think a boxer such as Egginton or Skeete would be daft to forget that, Mayweather doesn't need to care though.

He has got a punch wearing 4oz gloves when the guy stands square in front of him waiting to be hit without the ability to ride or slip a punch.  McGregor v Skeete would be as one sided as the fight with Mayweather would be.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on May 23, 2017, 06:58:08 PM
He has got a punch wearing 4oz gloves when the guy stands square in front of him waiting to be hit without the ability to ride or slip a punch.  McGregor v Skeete would be as one sided as the fight with Mayweather would be.

The guys an Elite Martial Artist.. he's not some bum off the street that's managed to con his way into millions. He doesn't need someone to stand in front of him and do nothing to be able to hurt somebody. The guys taken on the most dangerous lighter weight fighters in the world and made them look silly.

Is he a boxer? No. Will he beat Floyd in a boxing contest? No. In a real fight however Mayweather would be rendered useless just the same.

You might not like MMA or just not McGregor but you're far more intelligent than your last post.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 23, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
I'm not sure what you take umbrage with in my post. You accept that he's not a boxer and say that he's made people that aren't boxers look stupid in a sport that is not boxing.

Look at the videos of McGregor dropping guys in the octagon and then consider if even most guys fighting at area level would leave themselves in a position to be caught with the shot. Also, if he did connect with a shot it's just not going to have the same effect when it's delivered with gloves twice the size on.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on May 23, 2017, 10:21:27 PM
I'm not sure what you take umbrage with in my post. You accept that he's not a boxer and say that he's made people that aren't boxers look stupid in a sport that is not boxing.

Look at the videos of McGregor dropping guys in the octagon and then consider if even most guys fighting at area level would leave themselves in a position to be caught with the shot. Also, if he did connect with a shot it's just not going to have the same effect when it's delivered with gloves twice the size on.

You suggested that McGregor needs to face a static punch bag of a fighter in order to hurt somebody. Decades of dedicated training to make it to the elite level of professional hand to hand combat and nobody ever learned how to slip a punch.. they really dropped the ball there didn't they? I'm sure all these different disciplines of martial arts some stretching back centuries and nobody ever learned how to avoid a standard punch? Just too much of a head scratcher that was.

I'm sure you could take a boxing lesson or two and then go and take out one of these imbeciles of the octagon since they won't have a clue what to do with a hook or a jab..


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 24, 2017, 06:17:10 AM
He has got a punch wearing 4oz gloves when the guy stands square in front of him waiting to be hit without the ability to ride or slip a punch.  McGregor v Skeete would be as one sided as the fight with Mayweather would be.

Plenty of guys have stood in front of Skeete....not sure his opponents have been any more elusive then McGregors.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 24, 2017, 07:52:02 AM
You suggested that McGregor needs to face a static punch bag of a fighter in order to hurt somebody. Decades of dedicated training to make it to the elite level of professional hand to hand combat and nobody ever learned how to slip a punch.. they really dropped the ball there didn't they? I'm sure all these different disciplines of martial arts some stretching back centuries and nobody ever learned how to avoid a standard punch? Just too much of a head scratcher that was.

I'm sure you could take a boxing lesson or two and then go and take out one of these imbeciles of the octagon since they won't have a clue what to do with a hook or a jab..

Most grown men could hurt another if they catch someone else with a decent shot.  My comment was in response to Tim's comment about him 'detonating' the left hand with accuracy.  As I said in my last post, look at how McGregor throws the shot and how guys get caught with it, then consider if most good level pro boxers are going to get caught with that shot like guys in the Octagon have. 

You seem to think I'm anti-MMA but I've been watching it for in the region of 15 years.  Given that yo seem to watch both sports, surely you are aware that there is a difference between striking in MMA and boxing even down to stance and footwork.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on May 24, 2017, 08:32:16 AM
UFC 'Hit' people.

Boxers box.

Big big difference.

The UFC man is about the face arguably the best defensive boxer of all time, certainly in my generation.

If JMM couldnt lay a glove on him then how does some stiff from UFC?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on May 24, 2017, 11:34:42 AM
Most grown men could hurt another if they catch someone else with a decent shot.  My comment was in response to Tim's comment about him 'detonating' the left hand with accuracy.  As I said in my last post, look at how McGregor throws the shot and how guys get caught with it, then consider if most good level pro boxers are going to get caught with that shot like guys in the Octagon have.  

You seem to think I'm anti-MMA but I've been watching it for in the region of 15 years.  Given that yo seem to watch both sports, surely you are aware that there is a difference between striking in MMA and boxing even down to stance and footwork.

Manny Pacquiao one of the greatest boxers of a generation walked onto an accurate straight right against Marquez.. Jose Aldo one of the greatest MMA fighters of a generation walked on to an accurate straight left against McGregor. It isn't as cut and dry as your statement suggests.. Boxers aren't immune to the hands of a highly skilled Martial Artist. Just to be clear in no way am I suggesting McGregor beats Mayweather but could he catch hurt good Pro boxers with his hands? Absolutely.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on May 24, 2017, 11:37:31 AM
UFC 'Hit' people.

Boxers box.

Big big difference.

The UFC man is about the face arguably the best defensive boxer of all time, certainly in my generation.

If JMM couldnt lay a glove on him then how does some stiff from UFC?

You're last line is flawed as Maidana one of the most crude pro's around, who isn't a patch on Marquez, did lay alot of gloves on Mayweather.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on May 24, 2017, 11:46:18 AM
McGregor has what canelo had... a punchers chance. Apart from that he has little else to offer in the boxing ring. This is a mismatch far greater than mayweather v canelo.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 24, 2017, 12:38:03 PM
Manny Pacquiao one of the greatest boxers of a generation walked onto an accurate straight right against Marquez.. Jose Aldo one of the greatest MMA fighters of a generation walked on to an accurate straight left against McGregor. It isn't as cut and dry as your statement suggests.. Boxers aren't immune to the hands of a highly skilled Martial Artist. Just to be clear in no way am I suggesting McGregor beats Mayweather but could he catch hurt good Pro boxers with his hands? Absolutely.

Pacquiao got caught by one of the best counter-punchers of his generation, Aldo got caught by a good punch. 

Anyone engaging in a combat sport can get caught by their opponent.  I could get in the Octagon and nail Conor with the crane kick from Karate Kid.  It could happen but is pretty damn unlikely.  As with most things, it is just down to levels.  Sprinters and marathon runners are both runners but neither would be able to succeed at the others discipline just because they both use their legs.  Their training is concentrated in entirely different fundamentals.

I'd liken McGregor to Cello Renda - could have a chance in a Prizefighter but would struggle to win an Area title.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 25, 2017, 11:23:11 AM
McGregor has what canelo had... a punchers chance. Apart from that he has little else to offer in the boxing ring. This is a mismatch far greater than mayweather v canelo.

I agree with this. If McGregor can land he can win....however he's likely going to be missing all night long.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on May 25, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
I agree with this. If McGregor can land he can win....however he's likely going to be missing all night long.

Having said that Tim... if it were Canelo v McGregor. I think people would be genuinely worried about McGregors health. It would end in a career changing brutal knockout.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on May 25, 2017, 05:22:24 PM
Having said that Tim... if it were Canelo v McGregor. I think people would be genuinely worried about McGregors health. It would end in a career changing brutal knockout.

So will this . He'll Hatton him


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on May 25, 2017, 06:35:04 PM
I love it how people are forgetting that he essentially lost a boxing match to Nate Diaz. He only got choked out because he didn't have the fortitude to keep swinging and go out on his shield. Mayweather could absolutely knock him out within a few rounds, but he will put in as little effort as possible to coast. Probably a ref or corner stoppage before Conor is ever in any real danger, but is being embarrassed.

Before, I said that I would watch it, but wouldn't pay for it. The more that I think about it, I don't even want to watch it.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on May 26, 2017, 07:54:57 AM

This will be more one-sided than the first half of Rocky vs Thunderlips.

"Blast off, meatball !"


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: TC on May 26, 2017, 08:36:07 AM
Can't believe you can still get evens for Mayweather to win by stoppage. Mental.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 26, 2017, 09:21:33 AM
Can't believe you can still get evens for Mayweather to win by stoppage. Mental.

Crazy that the odds are shorter on a points victory.  A Floyd KO is basically buying money if this fight gets confirmed.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on May 26, 2017, 12:10:17 PM
Crazy that the odds are shorter on a points victory.  A Floyd KO is basically buying money if this fight gets confirmed.

Just on the basis that McGregor will struggle to get to round 12... without any significant punches landing on him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 30, 2017, 10:21:41 AM
Crazy that the odds are shorter on a points victory.  A Floyd KO is basically buying money if this fight gets confirmed.

You say that but earlier pointed out the small gloves in UFC. Surely the fact that Conor can take the shots from those gloves will be in his favour once the boxing gloves come out?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 30, 2017, 10:23:37 AM
Having said that Tim... if it were Canelo v McGregor. I think people would be genuinely worried about McGregors health. It would end in a career changing brutal knockout.

That's true. Be interesting to see if McGregor comes to box or stick to his martial arts and attempt a new tactic in the boxing ring.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 30, 2017, 10:27:23 AM
You say that but earlier pointed out the small gloves in UFC. Surely the fact that Conor can take the shots from those gloves will be in his favour once the boxing gloves come out?

I don't think that will make much of a difference as Floyd hasn't really been much of a puncher since his 130/135 days.  It will be the timing that will do for McGregor and the fact that he will be being caught by shots he won't even see coming.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 30, 2017, 11:06:15 AM
I don't think that will make much of a difference as Floyd hasn't really been much of a puncher since his 130/135 days.  It will be the timing that will do for McGregor and the fact that he will be being caught by shots he won't even see coming.

Not that I'm giving McGregor any chance but he's roundly praised for his speed and timing...I think he can hurt Mayweather in a similar fashion to how Mayweather can hurt him.

At this moment I'd go with a Mayweather points shut out.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on May 30, 2017, 12:07:13 PM
How many 12-round boxing matches has Connor fought exactly ?

None.

He gets halted in this.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 30, 2017, 12:33:18 PM
How many 12-round boxing matches has Connor fought exactly ?

None.

He gets halted in this.

How many 5 minute rounds has Mayweather done? Means nothing....these are pro athletes at the height of their game.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on May 30, 2017, 01:06:56 PM
I'd say look at the stats in terms of strikes. Mayweather landed on average 20 punches a round v Alvarez.

Diaz in the 2nd fight in what is the closest McGregor has had to a boxing match landed 166 strikes out of 343 discounting strikes with the leg that's still around about a 50% connect rate and around about the same amount of punches landed in a 3 minute period as Mayweather landed against one of the best boxers in the world.

All this points towards Mayweather landing a lot and I can't see mcgregor taking that sort of punishment for 10-12 rounds.

In fairness mcgregor did land a lot against Diaz too but Diaz isn't the defensive master that Mayweather is and is just a major tough cookie


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on May 30, 2017, 01:09:30 PM
How many 5 minute rounds has Mayweather done? Means nothing....these are pro athletes at the height of their game.
Floyd spars 10 minute rounds in camp. Plus he's used to doing 12 rounds in offical fights. He knows how much he can push his body each round. You can't say the same for Mcgregor, he's clueless. He barely reaches 5 in MMA. He goes in there to knock people out. He's a sprinter. It's not just a case of Mayweather having far supieror cardio, he is used to using his mind for 12 rounds as well. Floyd is like a chess Grand Master in the ring. He will figure Mcgregor out and hit him at will. Floyd ends this fight any time he wants after 5 rounds.

Mcgregor does not see the final bell.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on May 30, 2017, 01:47:01 PM
Floyd spars 10 minute rounds in camp. Plus he's used to doing 12 rounds in offical fights. He knows how much he can push his body each round. You can't say the same for Mcgregor, he's clueless. He barely reaches 5 in MMA. He goes in there to knock people out. He's a sprinter. It's not just a case of Mayweather having far supieror cardio, he is used to using his mind for 12 rounds as well. Floyd is like a chess Grand Master in the ring. He will figure Mcgregor out and hit him at will. Floyd ends this fight any time he wants after 5 rounds.

Mcgregor does not see the final bell.

Not quite the same though is it..

Grapple or roll with someone your size just for a few minutes and you'll want to vomit your guts up. If a boxer wants a rest he grabs hold of his opponent.. do that in MMA you pay the price. Mixing grappling and striking together is gruelling which is the whole point to the UFC adding the round system. Before that both fighters were a mess after 10 minutes.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 30, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
Not quite the same though is it..

Grapple or roll with someone your size just for a few minutes and you'll want to vomit your guts up. If a boxer wants a rest he grabs hold of his opponent.. do that in MMA you pay the price. Mixing grappling and striking together is gruelling which is the whole point to the UFC adding the round system. Before that both fighters were a mess after 10 minutes.

That's it, I wouldn't put a penny on McGregor winning but I recon he sees out the fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on May 30, 2017, 02:13:16 PM
It doesn't matter a jot if McGregor has better cardio than Eliud Kipchoge.  He will be loading up on shots but hitting nothing but fresh air with them whilst being hit repeatedly with clean counters.  McGregor is either stopped or DQ'd before the halfway point if the fights is a 12 rounder.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on May 30, 2017, 02:52:39 PM
Not quite the same though is it..

Grapple or roll with someone your size just for a few minutes and you'll want to vomit your guts up. If a boxer wants a rest he grabs hold of his opponent.. do that in MMA you pay the price. Mixing grappling and striking together is gruelling which is the whole point to the UFC adding the round system. Before that both fighters were a mess after 10 minutes.

As I remember, Mcgregors first fight with Diaz was pretty much a boxing match with the odd spinning wheel kick thrown in. He gassed in two, ran out of ideas and panicked then made a desperate lunge to get Diaz to the floor. Diaz was teeing off on Mcgregor. Connor was throwing in slow motion in that second.

Just sayin....


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on May 30, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
I cant see how anyone can say mcgregor can go 12.

I cant see it, even if fitness isn't an issue then frustration will surely take over and he will elbow/kick or something.

Obviously we dont know until and if this fight happens but personally i just can not see it


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on May 30, 2017, 03:26:18 PM
I cant see how anyone can say mcgregor can go 12.

I cant see it, even if fitness isn't an issue then frustration will surely take over and he will elbow/kick or something.

Obviously we dont know until and if this fight happens but personally i just can not see it

I can just see it being so one sided that McGregor just plays out the rounds and Mayweather will likely take that as he normally does. He's not going to go in for the stoppage if he's winning rounds with ease imo.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on May 30, 2017, 03:36:47 PM
Does anyone here think Mcgregor is on the same level a boxer than Corrales, Gatti, Hatton?? All of who were world class and world champions. AND got absolutley out boxed out thought and in the demolished. Puts it into perspective. He embarrased Marquez at times.....What do you think he's going to do with Mcgregor?

If Conor gets underneith Floyds skin in the build up to the fight then Floyd is going to do what ever he likes in there. He'll carry Mcgregor for 4 then Embarrass, humiliate and in the end put a brutal beat down on him before Connor quits (again) or gets stopped.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: wheaty on May 30, 2017, 04:26:59 PM
Does anyone here think Mcgregor is on the same level a boxer than Corrales, Gatti, Hatton?? All of who were world class and world champions. AND got absolutley out boxed out thought and in the demolished. Puts it into perspective. He embarrased Marquez at times.....What do you think he's going to do with Mcgregor?

If Conor gets underneith Floyds skin in the build up to the fight then Floyd is going to do what ever he likes in there. He'll carry Mcgregor for 4 then Embarrass, humiliate and in the end put a brutal beat down on him before Connor quits (again) or gets stopped.

Another perspective is the most recent bout from the fighters you've highlighted happened 10 years ago. That version of mayweather toys with most and I absolutely agree smokes Mcgregor. I'm just not so sure a 40 year+ Mayweather makes it as easy for himself.

Don't get me wrong I still think Mayweather wins, but the Maidana fights I think showed a different version of Mayweather as he ages. I can certainly see Mcgregor having success in the fight with youth, range and power on his side.

I'm not making the case Mcgregor will win, but I don't see the one sided mauling happening.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on May 30, 2017, 05:21:37 PM
Another perspective is the most recent bout from the fighters you've highlighted happened 10 years ago. That version of mayweather toys with most and I absolutely agree smokes Mcgregor. I'm just not so sure a 40 year+ Mayweather makes it as easy for himself.

Don't get me wrong I still think Mayweather wins, but the Maidana fights I think showed a different version of Mayweather as he ages. I can certainly see Mcgregor having success in the fight with youth, range and power on his side.

I'm not making the case Mcgregor will win, but I don't see the one sided mauling happening.

You know what, I'd love to see Conor give a good account of himself in there. I'd love to see him land something big and hurt Floyd, I just don't see it. Maidana is a much better fighter than hes given credit for and if i remember rightly Castillo gave a young Mayweather all kinds of problems. Floyd arguably lost that fight.
 
Your right to point out Mayweathers age. It catches up with you eventually. Floyds still fast, still unbelieveably skilled and can still hit Conor from anywhere. With roids modern science playing a big part in Exercise and Nutrition, fighters today are staying fresher for longer. I don't see Conor getting anywhere near Floyd. The only fighters that did were Maidana & Castillo, they had a similar style and fought at a pace mcgregor could never get near. Can you imagine what Floyd does to Conor if he gasses? What are the chance of Mcgregor gassing before Floyd?

Floyd knows his body is slowing down, but he also knows how to manage his energy in the rounds. With Conor its uncharted territor. He's going to be clueless in there. It's a mismatch in every sense of the word. Mayweather won't be doing conor any favours in there either. He'll carry him for 3/4 rounds for his own benefit to make the fight seem credible for casuals.

Connor has no defence, he's easy to hit, even by MMA fighters. He can't fight off the back foot nor can he fight on the inside. He doesn't even have a jab. He counter punches well against clueless MMA fighters. He won't be doing much of that with Floyd. Mayweather will read Conor like the bible. Mcgregors a one trick pony in a boxing ring, Floyd isn't falling for that. Hopefully i'm wrong and Mcgregor gives a good account of himself. I just can't see this being anything other than a oneside beatdown after 3/4 rounds.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on May 30, 2017, 05:38:16 PM
Serious question...would Conor McGregor even beat any of the following 147-154 boxers:

 - Bradley Skeete
 - Sam Eggington
 - Liam Smith
 - Liam Williams
 - Frankie Gavin


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on May 30, 2017, 05:59:52 PM
As I remember, Mcgregors first fight with Diaz was pretty much a boxing match with the odd spinning wheel kick thrown in. He gassed in two, ran out of ideas and panicked then made a desperate lunge to get Diaz to the floor. Diaz was teeing off on Mcgregor. Connor was throwing in slow motion in that second.

Just sayin....

And as I remember neither fighter was fully prepared for the first fight. McGregor went in thinking it was an easy nights work and ended up In with a tri-athlete with impeccable punch resistance.. McGregor found success early and put everything into getting rid of him. It didn't work and his arse fell out.

The second fight or war alone with both fully prepared is enough to let anyone know that both are elite athletes who wouldn't have an issue going 12 3 minute rounds in a boxing exhibition.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on May 30, 2017, 06:33:28 PM
Are folk really making out Connor has a chance?

 :D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on May 30, 2017, 07:03:40 PM
Are folk really making out Connor has a chance?

 :D

Not me.

But going 12 rounds 3 minute rounds in a exhibition isn't some holy grail of peak physical fitness. If Paul Smith can do it then rest assured a unified UFC champion can do it just fine.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on May 31, 2017, 09:15:30 AM
Serious question...would Conor McGregor even beat any of the following 147-154 boxers:

 - Bradley Skeete
 - Sam Eggington
 - Liam Smith
 - Liam Williams
 - Frankie Gavin

He'd beat frankie gavin by default as he'd miss whatever weight the match was made at


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 02, 2017, 10:35:27 AM
The fascinating evolution of Floyd Mayweather (1996-2017).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kPb1uYcc44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kPb1uYcc44)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 12, 2017, 09:08:34 PM
It appears we have a date and venue booked.

This fight is actually going to happen...... fuckaduck

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2715232-floyd-mayweathers-promotion-reserves-arena-in-august-amid-conor-mcgregor-rumors (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2715232-floyd-mayweathers-promotion-reserves-arena-in-august-amid-conor-mcgregor-rumors)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 12, 2017, 11:08:59 PM
August is way too soon to pull it together


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 13, 2017, 10:39:02 AM
August is way too soon to pull it together

The date suits Mayweather than it does Mcgregor. The thinking behind it is to get the date infront of GGG v canelo. Two massive, expensive PPV cards in the same month will have a negative impact on the other. Dela hoya got the date Team Mayweather wanted. Undermining De la hoya by putting the date infront of the GGG fight makes sense when you think about it. Mayweather wants the biggest bang for his buck. I don't see why they don't go for October.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on June 13, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
The date suits Mayweather than it does Mcgregor. The thinking behind it is to get the date infront of GGG v canelo. Two massive, expensive PPV cards in the same month will have a negative impact on the other. Dela hoya got the date Team Mayweather wanted. Undermining De la hoya by putting the date infront of the GGG fight makes sense when you think about it. Mayweather wants the biggest bang for his buck. I don't see why they don't go for October.

Because people will of shelled out the month before for GGG?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: unknown on June 13, 2017, 09:01:58 PM



Watching conor fight Mayweather is going to answer a lot of questions more about conor.

He is truly great, but we are going to get to see him in with the best boxer of all time.

Its going to be interesting from a nerd MMA / boxing fan perspective.

Interesting man, money would be on Mayweather obviously but Mayweather is going to get hurt... its going to happen, Conor is going to lay hands on Mayweather and he has poke.

Could be there is some thing unusual happens in the fight..  and Mayweather is knocked the f out......

Conor is a truly fit MMA guy, that moves different and is a master of feinting, some timing issue and the next thing Mayweather is getting hit harder than he ever has been.


I would not ship the farm on Mayweather, its not a lock.

Truly a great fight match up, its for the fans.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 13, 2017, 09:23:06 PM


Watching conor fight Mayweather is going to answer a lot of questions more about conor.

He is truly great, but we are going to get to see him in with the best boxer of all time.

Its going to be interesting from a nerd MMA / boxing fan perspective.

Interesting man, money would be on Mayweather obviously but Mayweather is going to get hurt... its going to happen, Conor is going to lay hands on Mayweather and he has poke.

Could be there is some thing unusual happens in the fight..  and Mayweather is knocked the f out......

Conor is a truly fit MMA guy, that moves different and is a master of feinting, some timing issue and the next thing Mayweather is getting hit harder than he ever has been.


I would not ship the farm on Mayweather, its not a lock.

Truly a great fight match up, its for the fans.

Different being a master vs MMA guys. This fight is an exhibition that Floyd won't break sweat in and will make a fortune.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 14, 2017, 06:01:50 AM


Watching conor fight Mayweather is going to answer a lot of questions more about conor.

He is truly great, but we are going to get to see him in with the best boxer of all time.

Its going to be interesting from a nerd MMA / boxing fan perspective.

Interesting man, money would be on Mayweather obviously but Mayweather is going to get hurt... its going to happen, Conor is going to lay hands on Mayweather and he has poke.

Could be there is some thing unusual happens in the fight..  and Mayweather is knocked the f out......

Conor is a truly fit MMA guy, that moves different and is a master of feinting, some timing issue and the next thing Mayweather is getting hit harder than he ever has been.


I would not ship the farm on Mayweather, its not a lock.

Truly a great fight match up, its for the fans.

This is the type of overly imaginative, illogical thinkinhg that got this fight off of the ground.

It will be a complete blowout and it is a disservice to both sports.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 14, 2017, 07:58:19 AM
Herol 'Bomber' Graham boxed an exhibition on a show my brother boxed on a year or two ago.  Herol is 57 and the guy couldn't hit him with a handful of rice.  This fight will be exactly the same aside from all the hype and people subsequently claiming Conor would've won if he'd been allowed to wear MMA gloves.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Kevan2 on June 14, 2017, 10:27:52 AM
I would have an interest in this farce, if there was a return clause of 5 rounds MMA

Sam eggington would walk through connor. Only an opinion, not a fact.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 14, 2017, 03:23:22 PM
Mcgregor couldn't win intermediate provincials in Ireland as a boxer.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ScottMillwall on June 14, 2017, 06:02:41 PM
Apparently Chris Van Heerden absolutely schooled him in sparring.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 14, 2017, 07:59:15 PM
It would be an embarrassment and I really hope it does not happen.

If it did I wouldn't trust it... An agreement would be reached on how the fight would go....


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: unknown on June 14, 2017, 08:08:38 PM
This is the type of overly imaginative, illogical thinkinhg that got this fight off of the ground.

It will be a complete blowout and it is a disservice to both sports.

I hear what your saying and I actually thought the same way, but there is some thing interesting about seeing conor move into the boxing ring, Obviously Mayweather in an MMA cage would be eaten alive inside of 30 seconds but the other way around we get to see Conor against a truly great boxer and he will be shown to be limited.

its going to be good to see, but I'm tell you conor has a decent left, and fit.

I want to see this fight happen, its good for the fans and for combat history.


Floyd will make it to 50 and the historical tittle over rocky.m no loss 49 right?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Laney on June 14, 2017, 09:46:58 PM
Now official


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 14, 2017, 11:43:45 PM
Yep its all confirmed by Dana White. 154 with 10 0z gloves. Basically a pillow fight.

http://mmajunkie.com/2017/06/ufc-dana-white-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-fight-details (http://mmajunkie.com/2017/06/ufc-dana-white-floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-fight-details)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 14, 2017, 11:57:46 PM
I'd pay just to be at the press conference...sod the fight  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 15, 2017, 01:55:15 AM
Feel for the Americans on here, $100 being thrown about as the price just to watch this on your TV. If it was Floyd vs Ray Leonard I'd struggle to justify that.

The 41 year old, 2 year lay off returning past his best boxer of his generation is going to slap about a cage fighter unknown to most 3/4 years ago and that's what it will cost you.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Boeing787 on June 15, 2017, 04:56:47 AM
If this is on showtime only, is it possible to watch their PPV in the uk?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 15, 2017, 05:15:24 AM
If this is on showtime only, is it possible to watch their PPV in the uk?

Sky or boxnation will pick it up, I think the showtime stuff is just in relation to who shows it in the states. Nelson, Froch and Smith don't need much in the way of an excuse for a boys trip away achieving nothing, they'll not pass this up. Nelson is probably on a flight as we speak.

Get your 25 pound or so ready.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 15, 2017, 06:37:22 AM
Anyone that thinks this farce isn't pre-determined by script writers need to watch another sport... I can recommend WWE.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 15, 2017, 08:03:35 AM
Potentially the most annoying part of this fight will be all the 50-0 nonsense, as if no one has ever got to that mark before.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: cloughie on June 15, 2017, 09:29:18 AM
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE f***ing FEED OF SHITE THIS FIGHT IS.

ANYBODY WHO BUYS THIS PPV, OR WHO'S EVEN REMOTELY INTERESTED IN THIS 'FIGHT', CAN F~UCKING DISAPPEAR.

ADD-EE-F#KIN-OS TO THIS THREAD, SHUT IT DOWN PLEASE RED.

RGDS/CLOUGHIE


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on June 15, 2017, 10:11:24 AM

The fights a joke in boxing terms but its great entertainment.

I'll be watching I make no bones about that


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 15, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
At least the bookies are still offering evens on a Mayweather KO/TKO/DQ at present.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 15, 2017, 10:30:19 AM
It's a fun one off spectacle. Pure entertainment, it's a fantasy fight made real. As it's a one off, I've no problem with this fight being made. Can u take the actual fight seriously? No but who cares....I'm actually looking forward to this no. Connor has done well to get this far, good on him....


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: cloughie on June 15, 2017, 10:49:58 AM
OK THEN I'LL WATCH IT  . . . ..  // // //


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 15, 2017, 10:54:19 AM
OK THEN I'LL WATCH IT  . . . ..  // // //
Someones been triggered  ;D   

Keep taking the Prozac


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 15, 2017, 10:56:38 AM
Apparently this was an easy fight to make, mayweather agreed to everything. Including a 50/50/ split.

Dana White and Leonard Ellerbe - Mayweather vs. McGregor Media Scrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waXnE1KnRlQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waXnE1KnRlQ)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on June 15, 2017, 11:07:22 AM
How pissed off is Del a hoya going to be : Having stolen the September date from mayweather with the Canelo v GGG fight... this fight only goes and over shadows it.

The hype around this fight is going to be huge... massive personalities. Canelo v GGG albeit a proper fight wont stand a chance in the marketing dept.

What a blinder. Would love to see DLH's face.   ;D ;D ;D

Only 3 weeks between the two fights. Hilarious.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ScottMillwall on June 15, 2017, 12:00:00 PM
Haha, yeah, it's hilarious that the biggest fight to be made in boxing is going to be overshadowed by a total farce. Side splitting stuff.   //


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: unknown on June 15, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
imagine if you could evens on Mayweather, that would awesome.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Laney on June 15, 2017, 01:12:15 PM
Is it confirmed as a 12 rounder?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 15, 2017, 01:12:56 PM
Is it confirmed as a 12 rounder?

Yeah, hence the odds on Mayweather KO/TKO/DQ looking great.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 15, 2017, 02:11:53 PM
People really feeling a Floyd KO?

Conor has a decent chin but he won't have been hit like Floyd will hit him, the speed, accuracy and timing. I just hope Floyd is aggressive for one last time, he should make this Gatti like.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 15, 2017, 02:19:19 PM
People really feeling a Floyd KO?

Conor has a decent chin but he won't have been hit like Floyd will hit him, the speed, accuracy and timing. I just hope Floyd is aggressive for one last time, he should make this Gatti like.

I can't really see any other outcome, especially in a 12 round fight.  McGregor is going to be continually hit with shots he doesn't see and will just be broken up.  He'll do well to even get past half way for me.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 15, 2017, 03:40:44 PM
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE f***ing FEED OF SHITE THIS FIGHT IS.

ANYBODY WHO BUYS THIS PPV, OR WHO'S EVEN REMOTELY INTERESTED IN THIS 'FIGHT', CAN F~UCKING DISAPPEAR.

ADD-EE-F#KIN-OS TO THIS THREAD, SHUT IT DOWN PLEASE RED.

RGDS/CLOUGHIE

Think it is the first time that I can say that I completely agree with this clown.

Regards,

Chicagofightfan


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 15, 2017, 03:54:29 PM
I don't want to single out a particular poster, because several have expressed the same thing. So, to all who are looking at this as "good entertainment", stop trying to justify this whole thing as such. I can only imagine you are the same type that chuckles over some pleb yelling "world star" behind grainy phone camera footage of the idiotic violence that has become common place. Here's more of it for the mouth breathers.

Former sportsman, who is a fan of sport. This whole thing sickens me.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Bonters on June 15, 2017, 04:11:23 PM
I honestly don't see that this does a great deal of harm?  It's not any kind of serious boxing match and is for sheer indulgence only.  I know nothing about MMA or this McGregor character but it seems he's in for a hiding.  However, he will walk away a very wealthy man, Vegas will have had a bumper weekend yet again and nobody on earth is gonna take any of it seriously.  If it was being sold as some sort of serious boxing match, maybe so.  But it cannot be when one of the participants is not even a bloody boxer.  I doubt I'll even watch it, certainly not in the early hours.  But given the money that's gonna be generated, the event itself doesn't surprise me in the least.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 15, 2017, 05:07:38 PM
I can't really see any other outcome, especially in a 12 round fight.  McGregor is going to be continually hit with shots he doesn't see and will just be broken up.  He'll do well to even get past half way for me.

Not mentioning a ref that will double on Mcgregor as and extra opponanent. A familiar theme among the world class brawlers Mayweather has fought before.

I agree, Mayweather does what ever he wants with Mcgregor. Theres one glimmer of hope I see for Mcgregor. Half a glimmer.
Mayweather fought maidana twice, struggled with him on both occassions and arguably lost the first fight and got badly rocked in their second. How is it that a man who is far less skilled than Dela hoya, Marquez, Cotto, Manny, Canelo, can run Mayweather so close while the other fighters on that list got nowhere near Floyd? Conor doesn't need the skillset that a Marquez has or Cannelo, he just needs the right game plan. We know Connor has superb accuracy, with a decent gas tank am I clutching at straws by looking at the Maidana fight?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 15, 2017, 05:23:42 PM
Not mentioning a ref that will double on Mcgregor as and extra opponanent. A familiar theme among the world class brawlers Mayweather has fought before.

I agree, Mayweather does what ever he wants with Mcgregor. Theres one glimmer of hope I see for Mcgregor. Half a glimmer.
Mayweather fought maidana twice, struggled with him on both occassions and arguably lost the first fight and got badly rocked in their second. How is it that a man who is far less skilled than Dela hoya, Marquez, Cotto, Manny, Canelo, can run Mayweather so close while the other fighters on that list got nowhere near Floyd? Conor doesn't need the skillset that a Marquez has or Cannelo, he just needs the right game plan. We know Connor has superb accuracy, with a decent gas tank am I clutching at straws by looking at the Maidana fight?

Because maidana was a prime fit and crazy boxer with everything to prove.

Everything Mcgregor is not.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 15, 2017, 05:34:41 PM
Because maidana was a prime fit and crazy boxer with everything to prove.

Everything Mcgregor is not.

Well there goes my 'half glimmer'  ;D



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 15, 2017, 05:36:34 PM
Floyd Notoriously hard to hit (excuse the pun)

Not against Maidana he wasn't! I'm going to cling onto my glimmer of hope which has now been reduced to a quarter.


Mayweather vs Maidana 1 highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CqV65LYbL4&t=310s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CqV65LYbL4&t=310s)

Maidana almost drops Floyd, gets saved by the bell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MaY09p-qWI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MaY09p-qWI)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 15, 2017, 05:54:08 PM
Because maidana was a prime fit and crazy boxer with everything to prove.

Everything Mcgregor is not.

Who got completely shut out by Devon Alexander.

He's a Neanderthal good at one thing and it certainly isn't boxing.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: IrishPaddy on June 15, 2017, 06:55:54 PM
No doubt in my mind that the outcome is predetermined and they will be very secret on the specifics of the contract.

I suspect Floyd will carry him for a few rounds and finish with a body shot


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 15, 2017, 07:13:05 PM
^ I don't know how you've come to that conclusion. For the good of Boxing, Mayweather needs to and IS going to do everything he can to knock Connor out. Mayweather is callus individual, he'll stop Mcgregor by fair means or by foul.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: IrishPaddy on June 15, 2017, 07:29:38 PM
^ I don't know how you've come to that conclusion. For the good of Boxing, Mayweather needs to and IS going to do everything he can to knock Connor out. Mayweather is callus individual, he'll stop Mcgregor by fair means or by foul.

It's rigged. The UFC don't want their main man ko'd in 20 seconds. Part of negotiations. Mayweather couldn't give a crap about a KO. He just wants money.

Anyway, it's a load of shite and I'll say no more.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 15, 2017, 07:50:43 PM
I honestly don't see that this does a great deal of harm?  It's not any kind of serious boxing match and is for sheer indulgence only.  I know nothing about MMA or this McGregor character but it seems he's in for a hiding.  However, he will walk away a very wealthy man, Vegas will have had a bumper weekend yet again and nobody on earth is gonna take any of it seriously.  If it was being sold as some sort of serious boxing match, maybe so.  But it cannot be when one of the participants is not even a bloody boxer.  I doubt I'll even watch it, certainly not in the early hours.  But given the money that's gonna be generated, the event itself doesn't surprise me in the least.

You've outlined how much of a joke this is, but have essentially said it will do no harm. Things like this take away from the actual sport that I enjoy following and cheapen it. It takes away the sport aspect and makes it more about money and storylines. As said, idiots who enjoy soap operas and street fights on YouTube will have a field day, but actual fans of boxing are witnessing the sport being bastardized and disrespected.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 15, 2017, 08:31:39 PM
You've outlined how much of a joke this is, but have essentially said it will do no harm. Things like this take away from the actual sport that I enjoy following and cheapen it. It takes away the sport aspect and makes it more about money and storylines. As said, idiots who enjoy soap operas and street fights on YouTube will have a field day, but actual fans of boxing are witnessing the sport being bastardized and disrespected.

Yeah because this will taint the pure waters that is boxing. Pre determined scorecards, stay at home fighters avoiding any and all challenges, cherry picking, trainers cheap shotting fighters, alphabet titles were already respecting the sport so much..

Compared against all of the above poison that bastardises boxing more and more every week this will be a ray of shining light generating massive interest in the sport.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 15, 2017, 09:08:17 PM
Yeah because this will taint the pure waters that is boxing. Pre determined scorecards, stay at home fighters avoiding any and all challenges, cherry picking, trainers cheap shotting fighters, alphabet titles were already respecting the sport so much..

Compared against all of the above poison that bastardises boxing more and more every week this will be a ray of shining light generating massive interest in the sport.



Was expecting this type of sophomoric retort. Yes, the sport of boxing has red tape and dirty politics, but this isn't boxing. This is a freak show with boxing gloves taped to it. If you don't see the difference ... well you are probably their target demographic. Enjoy the fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on June 15, 2017, 09:12:15 PM
I really think those who have got the hump about this event need to lighten up and either have no part of it, or just appreciate it for what it is. It's got feck all to do with boxing aside from the rules, it has no bearing on rankings, titles or anything like that. Likewise with UFC because if McGregor retires from UFC after this fight then the company will move on to the next star as is always the case in sports. Mayweather is retired anyway so who cares about his career that's already over. It's a simple case of having a good laugh at the press conferences when McG will give Mayweather an absolute torrid time, and then the fight itself will be what it will be, but I honestly don't understand the hate towards it as if it cheapens either sport in any way. It's a separate event in the name of entertainment and showbiz. F*ck all to do with 'hardcore boxing' unless you allow it to be. Same as most things, taking offence to something is a matter of choice. I don't go down that road at all, I will enjoy this event every step of the way and then move on to the normality of boxing once it is over with.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 15, 2017, 09:42:49 PM
No doubt in my mind that the outcome is predetermined and they will be very secret on the specifics of the contract.

I suspect Floyd will carry him for a few rounds and finish with a body shot

Has to be mate. Anyone that thinks different just isn't thinking right. This is 'sports entertainment' not boxing. Just wish they were honest about it.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 15, 2017, 09:46:19 PM
^ I don't know how you've come to that conclusion. For the good of Boxing, Mayweather needs to and IS going to do everything he can to knock Connor out. Mayweather is callus individual, he'll stop Mcgregor by fair means or by foul.

If this fight was in any way real it wouldn't last 1 minute if the first Rd.
This is the equivilant of a pro pool player taking on Stephen Henry at snooker, he would pot a few but ultimately lose every frame unless carried.
Don't be fooled by this.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on June 15, 2017, 10:52:24 PM
Haha, yeah, it's hilarious that the biggest fight to be made in boxing is going to be overshadowed by a total farce. Side splitting stuff.   //

It serves Canelo and DLH right.  Screwing the public around giving up your middleweight title to face guys above and below GGG's weight class. which farce are you talking about. Serving up canelo v chavez jnr. DLH Wanting canelo to face McGregor.... the guy is a fake. The only person more jealous of mayweather than DLH is Larry Merchant.

I have absolutely no sympathy for Canelo or DLH... they tried to cherry pick the timing of a fight demanded by the public for some time now... and even GGG could have taken stiffer challenges at SMW if he wanted to. Its all backfired.

Don't be sad for them. The fans will still see the fight they wanted. The promoters just may not get the PPV figures they were originally hoping for.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 15, 2017, 11:24:05 PM
Was expecting this type of sophomoric retort. Yes, the sport of boxing has red tape and dirty politics, but this isn't boxing. This is a freak show with boxing gloves taped to it. If you don't see the difference ... well you are probably their target demographic. Enjoy the fight.

You linked it to boxing not me.. you said it cheapens and bastardises the sport. If this isn't boxing then how exactly does it do that? Moving the goalposts slightly aren't you?

I've said from the start it's an exhibition which will peak the interest of millions. I myself am intrigued to watch McGregor handicap himself and give every advantage to a man he would destroy in real combat and still see if he can compete in any fashion.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: unknown on June 16, 2017, 12:31:21 AM


you guys know your boxing here, properly,.

thoughts on this#?

https://youtu.be/BtFiLXh6oKQ


Floyd inside the distance is like evens ffs...

free money here right?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: cowboy55 on June 16, 2017, 12:13:38 PM
a total fuckin farce to me.two has beens ruining the name of their respective sports


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 16, 2017, 01:11:07 PM

you guys know your boxing here, properly,.

thoughts on this#?

https://youtu.be/BtFiLXh6oKQ


Floyd inside the distance is like evens ffs...

free money here right?
This puts things into proper perspective.

Mcgregor is going to get Tko'd regardless. I still believe with the right game plan Conor can have a bit of success early against an aging Mayweather and give a good account of himself. I hope he gives it a real go and roughs Mayweather up like Maidana did, before the predictable eventuality manifests itself.

I agree with Dwyer, Mayweather will be the puncher in this fight. If Diaz can buzz Conor on his feet you can rest assured Floyd can too. It's a fun, intriguing, unique spectacle, one i'm looking forward to.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 17, 2017, 06:05:43 AM
You linked it to boxing not me.. you said it cheapens and bastardises the sport. If this isn't boxing then how exactly does it do that? Moving the goalposts slightly aren't you?

I've said from the start it's an exhibition which will peak the interest of millions. I myself am intrigued to watch McGregor handicap himself and give every advantage to a man he would destroy in real combat and still see if he can compete in any fashion.

Point made simple:

Best boxer of our time

Vs

Fighter who has been knocked out by a Mexican-American Jiujitsu Artist.

What great entertainment. Plebs.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 17, 2017, 07:17:22 AM
Point made simple:

Best boxer of our time

Vs

Fighter who has been knocked out by a Mexican-American Jiujitsu Artist.

What great entertainment. Plebs.


Point made incorrectly.. he was submitted by a Mexican American Jiujitsu Artist not knocked out. As far as I'm aware Floyd hasn't been working on his rear naked's or Omo Plata's for this one. So.. way to try and make the people interested in this fight sound uneducated while you're making up fight results..

And the thing about your point is it's subjective and could easily read..

Boxer who got pushed all the way against extremely limited brut Marcos Maidana

Vs

Fighter who is the only ever Martial Artist to hold titles in two different weight divisions at the same time in Cage Warriors and UFC.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 17, 2017, 07:02:38 PM
Point made incorrectly.. he was submitted by a Mexican American Jiujitsu Artist not knocked out. As far as I'm aware Floyd hasn't been working on his rear naked's or Omo Plata's for this one. So.. way to try and make the people interested in this fight sound uneducated while you're making up fight results..

And the thing about your point is it's subjective and could easily read..

Boxer who got pushed all the way against extremely limited brut Marcos Maidana

Vs

Fighter who is the only ever Martial Artist to hold titles in two different weight divisions at the same time in Cage Warriors and UFC.

Only reason he was submitted was because he quit and didn't want to get hit again. He got his head knocked off.

Maidana would slaughter Mcgregor in a twelve round fight.

This whole thing is ludicrous


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 17, 2017, 08:06:24 PM
Point made incorrectly.. he was submitted by a Mexican American Jiujitsu Artist not knocked out. As far as I'm aware Floyd hasn't been working on his rear naked's or Omo Plata's for this one. So.. way to try and make the people interested in this fight sound uneducated while you're making up fight results..

And the thing about your point is it's subjective and could easily read..

Boxer who got pushed all the way against extremely limited brut Marcos Maidana

Vs

Fighter who is the only ever Martial Artist to hold titles in two different weight divisions at the same time in Cage Warriors and UFC.

Mooreman  already said it perfectly. He WAS knocked silly and did the MMA version of taking a knee by shooting in on someone he had no business grappling with. Ridiculous that you get into the technicalities of it.

As far as me pointing out the obvious with mouth breathers building this fight up, I will say whatever I like about this farce. I don't go on WWE forums and attack people for being uninformed and impressionable. However, I will point this out when the same fans start to impact an art form that I respect.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 17, 2017, 10:58:31 PM
Only reason he was submitted was because he quit and didn't want to get hit again. He got his head knocked off.

Maidana would slaughter Mcgregor in a twelve round fight.

This whole thing is ludicrous

In boxing when the shit hits the fan like that you grab a hold of your opponent.. unfortunately in MMA it isn't a luxury they have. The first fight with Diaz is a result of what happens when you are willing to fight anyone at any amount of notice.. he got in with a tri-athlete cardio machine on a couple of weeks notice and his arse fell out. Boxing levels had nothing to do with it as McGregor made it abundantly clear putting Diaz down umpteen times across 2 fights.

As for Maidana stick 4oz gloves on him and McGregor inside any ring or cage and he wouldn't see the second minute let alone 12 rounds.

The only thing ludicrous is you and Chicago getting precious about an exhibition between a retired boxer and a Martial Artist. Jon Jones and Dan Henderson fought each other months ago non UFC grappling only, no striking in an exhibition and my God was I insulted.. what a slap in the face to the sport of mixed martial arts that these two imbeciles had the audacity to try something different!!


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 17, 2017, 11:11:46 PM
In boxing when the shit hits the fan like that you grab a hold of your opponent.. unfortunately in MMA it isn't a luxury they have. The first fight with Diaz is a result of what happens when you are willing to fight anyone at any amount of notice.. he got in with a tri-athlete cardio machine on a couple of weeks notice and his arse fell out. Boxing levels had nothing to do with it as McGregor made it abundantly clear putting Diaz down umpteen times across 2 fights.

As for Maidana stick 4oz gloves on him and McGregor inside any ring or cage and he wouldn't see the second minute let alone 12 rounds.

The only thing ludicrous is you and Chicago getting precious about an exhibition between a retired boxer and a Martial Artist. Jon Jones and Dan Henderson fought each other months ago non UFC grappling only, no striking in an exhibition and my God was I insulted.. what a slap in the face to the sport of mixed martial arts that these two imbeciles had the audacity to try something different!!

Diaz was the one at a disadvantage of short notice... The triathalon stuff doesn't float. McGregor fought a fat lightweight at 170.. It wasn't a case that 170 suited Diaz... Also, the second fight was another enormous struggle...

I don't particularly care that it's happening.  I'm just not going to justify it. It's a greedy exercise between two greedy fighters who don't love their sports and have thousands of idiots that pay them to take the piss... Each to their own.

Shite fight, shite event, shite competitors.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 17, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
In boxing when the shit hits the fan like that you grab a hold of your opponent.. unfortunately in MMA it isn't a luxury they have. The first fight with Diaz is a result of what happens when you are willing to fight anyone at any amount of notice.. he got in with a tri-athlete cardio machine on a couple of weeks notice and his arse fell out. Boxing levels had nothing to do with it as McGregor made it abundantly clear putting Diaz down umpteen times across 2 fights.

As for Maidana stick 4oz gloves on him and McGregor inside any ring or cage and he wouldn't see the second minute let alone 12 rounds.

The only thing ludicrous is you and Chicago getting precious about an exhibition between a retired boxer and a Martial Artist. Jon Jones and Dan Henderson fought each other months ago non UFC grappling only, no striking in an exhibition and my God was I insulted.. what a slap in the face to the sport of mixed martial arts that these two imbeciles had the audacity to try something different!!

I think people are pissed off with this for the exact reason you pointed out... it's an exhibition. Only it's not, it's a licensed boxing match.
It's a complete farce. Mayweather will be instructed to carry him to make it look acceptable.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 17, 2017, 11:12:50 PM
Mooreman  already said it perfectly. He WAS knocked silly and did the MMA version of taking a knee by shooting in on someone he had no business grappling with. Ridiculous that you get into the technicalities of it.

As far as me pointing out the obvious with mouth breathers building this fight up, I will say whatever I like about this farce. I don't go on WWE forums and attack people for being uninformed and impressionable. However, I will point this out when the same fans start to impact an art form that I respect.



You said he got knocked out? You didn't say he did the equivalent of taking a knee? You said this exhibition is bastardising boxing and then you said this contest isn't boxing? If you're going to try and stereo type people who are intrigued by this exhibition as dim witted then you might want to sound like you have an idea of what you're talking about yourself.. or you can latch on to Mooreman to help.

Like I've said to you before if you want to point the finger at something impacting the art form you love then look away from this harmless exhibition between two non-ranked, non active boxers and look towards the pre-determined scorecards, in ring assault by coaching staff, stay at home fighters unwilling to travel or compete with capable opponents, interim, regular and super abc titles across multiple organisations all working against each other just to name a few. The thing about WWE is that it's actually harder to predict a winner in their matches despite the pre determined outcome then it is the vast majority of boxings world title fights.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 17, 2017, 11:23:07 PM
Diaz was the one at a disadvantage of short notice... The triathalon stuff doesn't float. McGregor fought a fat lightweight at 170.. It wasn't a case that 170 suited Diaz... Also, the second fight was another enormous struggle...

I don't particularly care that it's happening.  I'm just not going to justify it. It's a greedy exercise between two greedy fighters who don't love their sports and have thousands of idiots that pay them to take the piss... Each to their own.

Shite fight, shite event, shite competitors.

The triathlon stuff doesn't float? Why because it doesn't support your point? Cardio cost McGregor the first fight it's an plain as day. Let's face facts from the second fight where both had equal opportunities to prepare correctly McGregor dominated the stand up hitting Diaz and putting him down at will where as Diaz scoring came from the grappling and inside fighting that is illegal in boxing which makes the whole Diaz comparison a moot point.

If you don't like the contest because you don't like the people involved then fair enough.. no one can force you to like somebody. I'm not in this discussion to persuade you to like either person.. I got involved in this discussion when the elitist ignorant attitude of some suggesting McGregor can't do 12 or anyone who supports this contest has to be a fan of YouTube street fights.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 17, 2017, 11:29:11 PM
I think people are pissed off with this for the exact reason you pointed out... it's an exhibition. Only it's not, it's a licensed boxing match.
It's a complete farce. Mayweather will be instructed to carry him to make it look acceptable.

Worst case scenario your exactly right and he does carry McGregor only he carried Andre Berto in his last fight for 12 rounds and I don't recall many as upset there. Which is exactly the boxing elite attitude that made me post on this thread in the first place.. Mayweather made a career out of conning people to watch his pretend grudge matches and WWE villain personality but as long as the opponent involved has his own boxrec page then it's OK.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: wbamitch on June 18, 2017, 05:24:45 PM
Disappointed its confirmed and even if there was a fortunate postponement I think the money and attraction for this is too big for it not to happen eventually.

I don't watch UFC, of course I am aware of Mcgregor and have come across a few clips in and out of the cage, it will certainly be an entertaining build up and I think Mcgregor will take it over this version of Floyd in terms of the talk, maybe that would have been even a few years ago. As for the fight you would like to think even this version of Floyd absolutely dominates Mcgregor and I do hope that happens for the sake of boxing.

 I am a big Floyd fan but was not really keen for him to come back, boxing was on a bit of an upward spiral and unfortunately this "circus" (which I think is a fair assessment of this) has overshadowed some high quality match ups in probably the best year of boxing for some time. I do wonder whether it's just a one shot big money maker and of course 50-0 fight for Floyd or whether he will actually go on to fight some legit contenders, as mentioned earlier I'd be happy for it to be the former and for the sport to see what it can offer without him.

It will meet the entertainment value certainly before the fight which will get people watching, I will watch it and hope to see what many expect to happen but I'm not happy about it, let's get it over and done with.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 18, 2017, 06:36:07 PM
Worst case scenario your exactly right and he does carry McGregor only he carried Andre Berto in his last fight for 12 rounds and I don't recall many as upset there. Which is exactly the boxing elite attitude that made me post on this thread in the first place.. Mayweather made a career out of conning people to watch his pretend grudge matches and WWE villain personality but as long as the opponent involved has his own boxrec page then it's OK.


Difference is that berto is a boxer, and while there may have been a dozen fighters more deserving of the fight... he was in the mix.
Mcgreggor would be beaten by at least 100 middle weight boxers who are active today, he's no place in a boxing ring with the greatest fighter of a generation.
Do you honestly think that mayweather would have any trouble stopping him in 2 minutes should he want to?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 18, 2017, 09:38:14 PM
Difference is that berto is a boxer, and while there may have been a dozen fighters more deserving of the fight... he was in the mix.
Mcgreggor would be beaten by at least 100 middle weight boxers who are active today, he's no place in a boxing ring with the greatest fighter of a generation.
Do you honestly think that mayweather would have any trouble stopping him in 2 minutes should he want to?

Make no bones about it with the entire deck stacked against Mcgregor and Floyd given every advantage I don't expect it to be competitive in the slightest.. but I'm both intrigued and fascinated by the gall of a man who has taken over an entire sport in quick fashion, who has made pound 4 pound elite Martial artists look like static dummies and who has repeatedly done exactly whatever he said he was going to do. If he makes this fight even remotely competitive at any stage then his stock rises even further, if that is even possible.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 19, 2017, 07:56:09 AM
I love this shite people are coming out with, "Conor is a great business man". I'd fly to Vegas and fight Floyd now for less than half of what Conor will get. Not only that but I get the feeling for all his talk, he's being told what he's earning, not doing the telling.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 19, 2017, 11:22:45 AM
I love this shite people are coming out with, "Conor is a great business man". I'd fly to Vegas and fight Floyd now for less than half of what Conor will get. Not only that but I get the feeling for all his talk, he's being told what he's earning, not doing the telling.

Sorry mate but that's a load of bollox.

He's the self made king of an entire sport and aside from Mayweather he is set to become the highest paid boxer of 2017 even though he isn't a boxer.. if that isn't great business then I'd like to hear your opinion on what exactly is?

Conor initiated this whole fight, he made this happen nobody proposed it to him or gave him anything. I'd also fight Floyd for a 50th of what Conor will make except like yourself nobody would want to see it happen, so there'd be no money in the first place.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 19, 2017, 06:14:47 PM
Sorry mate but that's a load of bollox.

He's the self made king of an entire sport and aside from Mayweather he is set to become the highest paid boxer of 2017 even though he isn't a boxer.. if that isn't great business then I'd like to hear your opinion on what exactly is?

Conor initiated this whole fight, he made this happen nobody proposed it to him or gave him anything. I'd also fight Floyd for a 50th of what Conor will make except like yourself nobody would want to see it happen, so there'd be no money in the first place.

He has done well in MMA I'm not knocking that, what I'm saying is ive read people saying how he is so smart for taking this fight when in reality any fighter on earth would fight Floyd. Ultimately this is the easiest 100 million Floyd will make and he knows it, for me that's all there is to it.

I'm curious to know what Conor will take home once the UFC etc has eaten into his purse.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 19, 2017, 06:30:07 PM
He has done well in MMA I'm not knocking that, what I'm saying is ive read people saying how he is so smart for taking this fight when in reality any fighter on earth would fight Floyd. Ultimately this is the easiest 100 million Floyd will make and he knows it, for me that's all there is to it.

I'm curious to know what Conor will take home once the UFC etc has eaten into his purse.

That's fair enough.. but he didn't take the fight, he made the fight on his own initiative. Not only that but he's actually convinced bookmakers that he stands more of chance than most of Mayweathers previous opposition. The man is a phenomenon, how can what he's done for himself not be admired I don't know.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 19, 2017, 06:52:46 PM
That's fair enough.. but he didn't take the fight, he made the fight on his own initiative. Not only that but he's actually convinced bookmakers that he stands more of chance than most of Mayweathers previous opposition. The man is a phenomenon, how can what he's done for himself not be admired I don't know.

The cynic in me always tends to think that often guys like him have some great minds behind the scenes pulling many business strings. That has to be the case with Floyd despite him being as good as he is, as he seems far from bright. 

I'm not clued up all that well on odds mate but last I seen Conor was 9/1 and Floyd like 1/6. With my limited knowledge that says the bookies are pretty confident on who will win.

I wish Conor well. If Floyd dismantles him as bad as many think I look forward to see how the UFC re-build him or if they act like nothing's happened.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on June 19, 2017, 07:29:09 PM
The cynic in me always tends to think that often guys like him have some great minds behind the scenes pulling many business strings. That has to be the case with Floyd despite him being as good as he is, as he seems far from bright. 

I'm not clued up all that well on odds mate but last I seen Conor was 9/1 and Floyd like 1/6. With my limited knowledge that says the bookies are pretty confident on who will win.

I wish Conor well. If Floyd dismantles him as bad as many think I look forward to see how the UFC re-build him or if they act like nothing's happened.


Ali (Clay) was 7/1 underdog to beat Liston, McCall 5/1 to beat Lewis, I think recently Joe Smith Jr was about 10/1 to beat Fonfara so that's comparable. Bookies think McGregor has the same chance of beating one of the best boxers of a generation in his first pro fight..... Similar Odds for Indongo v Troyanovsky too


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 19, 2017, 10:20:12 PM

Ali (Clay) was 7/1 underdog to beat Liston, McCall 5/1 to beat Lewis, I think recently Joe Smith Jr was about 10/1 to beat Fonfara so that's comparable. Bookies think McGregor has the same chance of beating one of the best boxers of a generation in his first pro fight..... Similar Odds for Indongo v Troyanovsky too

How on earth did you get the odds of Ali vs Liston?  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 20, 2017, 07:29:58 AM
Make no bones about it with the entire deck stacked against Mcgregor and Floyd given every advantage I don't expect it to be competitive in the slightest.. but I'm both intrigued and fascinated by the gall of a man who has taken over an entire sport in quick fashion, who has made pound 4 pound elite Martial artists look like static dummies and who has repeatedly done exactly whatever he said he was going to do. If he makes this fight even remotely competitive at any stage then his stock rises even further, if that is even possible.


His stock won't rise though mate (except amongst people who believe this isn't scripted).


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: deck on June 20, 2017, 01:21:39 PM
Like all fighters throughout history, McGregor has a punchers chance of catching Mayweather, if he's slowed considerably or doesn't take it seriously. That's about it really.

What are the odds that when he starts to gas down the line or when Floyd starts to showboat that he'll try a roundhouse kick to Mayweather's head either on purpose or by instinct?  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on June 20, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
How on earth did you get the odds of Ali vs Liston?  ;D

Haha! That's probably the only one I knew off the top of my head as it's always mentioned in the docos that he was a 6/1 - 7/1 underdog.

Just checking skybet and people must be lumping on mcgregor as he's down to 5/1 now. He's the same odds as Horn is to beat PAC Man!?

Am I missing something here? Are the bookies afraid of something or what?

What odds would the guys on here put him at?  Id be thinking 50/1 at very least.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 20, 2017, 01:37:10 PM
I seem to recall that Holyfield was something like 25/1 to beat Tyson at one point. 

The bookies will reduce the odds any time money gets lumped on something and there will be plenty out there that think McGregor has a chance and will have got excited by the big price on offer.

I'd say realistic odds would be more like 100/1.  It's essentially the same proposition as the odds on the New England Patriots beating the All Blacks in a game of rugby.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Chris on June 21, 2017, 03:42:25 PM
Bookies are just greedy cowards at best. For every odds on contender the opponent odds are rarely extreme, just so they cover their backs. The only exceptions really being 100/1 shot horses and golfers.

At 50/1 I'd stick a tenner on, but 5/1 is really saying he's in with a chance.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 22, 2017, 02:21:22 PM
Just read from Paddy that 92% of all bets placed with them have been on McGregor so that'll explain why the odds on him have come in so much.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on June 22, 2017, 04:00:06 PM
Let the MMA groupies keep lumping on chasing the odds and living in cloud cuckoo land......narrow the odds a then we can all at least get decent odds and some free money on what we all know is an utterly ridiculous mismatch.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 22, 2017, 09:09:23 PM
Just read from Paddy that 92% of all bets placed with them have been on McGregor so that'll explain why the odds on him have come in so much.

That's a lot of people losing money.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 23, 2017, 06:33:13 AM
That's a lot of people losing money.

Can you bet on wrestling?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on June 23, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
Can you bet on wrestling?

You genuinely can.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on June 23, 2017, 12:38:03 PM
You genuinely can.

Crazy really, like betting on how a film will end.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on June 23, 2017, 01:27:40 PM
I've got a room at the mansion for this Aaron  ;)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on June 23, 2017, 02:09:27 PM
Crazy really, like betting on how a film will end.

Technically it's no different to any other bet. In fact it's even less predictable then many boxing matches.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jaff_no1 on June 23, 2017, 02:24:35 PM
Technically it's no different to any other bet. In fact it's even less predictable then many boxing matches.
Some people bet on things that will happen in soaps - "who shot so and so".


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on June 23, 2017, 03:49:21 PM
Some people bet on things that will happen in soaps - "who shot so and so".

That's it, bookies are game for most bets these days.

This one is ace. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/16/harry-wilson-grandfather-makes-125k-on-bet (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/16/harry-wilson-grandfather-makes-125k-on-bet)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 23, 2017, 06:23:38 PM
You genuinely can.

My monies going on big daddy on the grudge match v giant haystacks.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 24, 2017, 03:50:57 AM
You said he got knocked out? You didn't say he did the equivalent of taking a knee? You said this exhibition is bastardising boxing and then you said this contest isn't boxing? If you're going to try and stereo type people who are intrigued by this exhibition as dim witted then you might want to sound like you have an idea of what you're talking about yourself.. or you can latch on to Mooreman to help.

Like I've said to you before if you want to point the finger at something impacting the art form you love then look away from this harmless exhibition between two non-ranked, non active boxers and look towards the pre-determined scorecards, in ring assault by coaching staff, stay at home fighters unwilling to travel or compete with capable opponents, interim, regular and super abc titles across multiple organisations all working against each other just to name a few. The thing about WWE is that it's actually harder to predict a winner in their matches despite the pre determined outcome then it is the vast majority of boxings world title fights.

You are the exact type of person who is not worth debating with. When you have no point, you hang on to minuet details.

I said he got knocked out. How dare I? I should have said that he lost in a boxing exchange and because of that, flopped to the floor at a leg and was choked out. Would that have changed your argument? Would you be saying that Conor had a great ground game and Nate just got the best of him? No, he lost in a boxing match at a pretty amateurish level and essentially lept at a top level Jiu jtsiu artist in desperation. The fact that you want me to fill in all the blanks to make a point just highlights just how desperate your argument is.

For the record, you can look back at any of my posts and see that I have been one of the first to say that the UFC has unfairly made fighters go away from the ground game. It's cheap to say I don't understand it, or that I didn't watch that fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 24, 2017, 07:45:56 AM
You are the exact type of person who is not worth debating with. When you have no point, you hang on to minuet details.

I said he got knocked out. How dare I? I should have said that he lost in a boxing exchange and because of that, flopped to the floor at a leg and was choked out. Would that have changed your argument? Would you be saying that Conor had a great ground game and Nate just got the best of him? No, he lost in a boxing match at a pretty amateurish level and essentially lept at a top level Jiu jtsiu artist in desperation. The fact that you want me to fill in all the blanks to make a point just highlights just how desperate your argument is.

For the record, you can look back at any of my posts and see that I have been one of the first to say that the UFC has unfairly made fighters go away from the ground game. It's cheap to say I don't understand it, or that I didn't watch that fight.

You're slightly missing the point.. I had a good idea of what you probably meant however like I've said if you want to essentially refer to people who are intrigued by this fight as stupid then best not make up fight results and make it sound like you actually don't know what you're talking about.

My opinion on that fight he took it on two weeks notice on his opponents terms and paid the price for being so carefree on who or when or what weight he fights at. It had nothing to do with boxing skill but everything to do with getting tired. The second fight alone is enough to show that when both fighters were fully prepared that Conor's boxing is worlds above Nate's.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on June 24, 2017, 03:49:26 PM
I wish Conor well. If Floyd dismantles him as bad as many think I look forward to see how the UFC re-build him or if they act like nothing's happened.

I dont follow UFC religiously or anything but I did see something mentioned that they'll already lined him up for their card on December 30.

It will be interesting to see to see what reaction is if he does get made to look stupid but guess they'll just say "well it was boxing not MMA".


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 24, 2017, 04:12:44 PM
I dont follow UFC religiously or anything but I did see something mentioned that they'll already lined him up for their card on December 30.

It will be interesting to see to see what reaction is if he does get made to look stupid but guess they'll just say "well it was boxing not MMA".

Mcgregor hasn't fought in a while. I don't think he's ever been out so long baring that knee injury. He's going to be missing MMA. He's an insane competitor. I believe he'll be back before the end of the year. The only thing that stops him coming back is Dana. If mcgregor is asking for too much, that could be a big problem.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 24, 2017, 08:04:01 PM
You're slightly missing the point.. I had a good idea of what you probably meant however like I've said if you want to essentially refer to people who are intrigued by this fight as stupid then best not make up fight results


You have derailed. I don't mind banter or disagreements, but I have more intelligent conversations with my three year old. Enjoy the fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on June 24, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
You have derailed. I don't mind banter or disagreements, but I have more intelligent conversations with my three year old. Enjoy the fight.

That's it result to insults again for getting your BS called out. I'm off to watch Andre Ward defeat Kovalev by triangle choke from last weekend.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on June 26, 2017, 09:35:19 AM
What happens if Mcgregor flips out and puts Floyd in a choke hold in the centre of the ring?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: cloughie on June 26, 2017, 09:52:19 AM
what type of guy's name is 'DANA' anyway? f#cks sake


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 26, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
What happens if Mcgregor flips out and puts Floyd in a choke hold in the centre of the ring?

Mayweather probably has a better ground game too.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 26, 2017, 11:33:58 AM
So many upset cry babies in this thread  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: dmp on June 27, 2017, 08:26:25 PM
What happens if Mcgregor flips out and puts Floyd in a choke hold in the centre of the ring?


id piss myself


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on June 28, 2017, 03:46:03 AM
What happens if Mcgregor flips out and puts Floyd in a choke hold in the centre of the ring?

Mayweather will get 100% of the purse... so expect mayweather to encourage and dare mcgregror to do just that. Also floyds entourage will be ready to rush the ring and stomp the living daylights out of conor.

It will probably be the most expensive choke hold ever.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 28, 2017, 06:03:17 PM
I've heard there will be no press conference until right before the fight, no media tour either. Wtf??  Thats would have been the best bit.  ???


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 28, 2017, 08:12:33 PM
Mayweather will get 100% of the purse... so expect mayweather to encourage and dare mcgregror to do just that. Also floyds entourage will be ready to rush the ring and stomp the living daylights out of conor.

It will probably be the most expensive choke hold ever.

Unless it's written in to the absolutely ball bouncingly obviously scripted fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Driscoll on June 29, 2017, 10:32:20 AM
Mayweather will get 100% of the purse... so expect mayweather to encourage and dare mcgregror to do just that. Also floyds entourage will be ready to rush the ring and stomp the living daylights out of conor.

It will probably be the most expensive choke hold ever.

At thais point the rock will come in and drop the people's elbow on Leonard Ellerbe and then rock bottom Mayweather


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on June 29, 2017, 12:02:09 PM
No press?  I've a feeling this won't do as well as anticipated


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on June 29, 2017, 12:18:13 PM
The no press thing is madness.

Not like Floyd not to coin it in as much as possible so i cant see the reason for this


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Boeing787 on June 29, 2017, 08:22:41 PM
Where'd you guys hear no press?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: SCOTTY'S SOBER on June 29, 2017, 10:12:48 PM
There's going to be a world tour so the no press is a load of shite.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on June 30, 2017, 09:30:11 AM
I imagine this will be a travelling freakshow for many weeks prior to the fight, to part as many fools from their money as possible.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on June 30, 2017, 10:30:47 AM
I couldn't see it having no build up.

It'll be more entertaining than the fight.

Floyd will be aiming tot ae as many PPV off Oscar as possible so the more build up the better


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on June 30, 2017, 04:09:17 PM
PAULIE MALIGNAGGI to be brought in as Conors sparring partner. lol This gets more interesting by the day  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0u8kbIsgvU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0u8kbIsgvU)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on June 30, 2017, 05:39:17 PM
I like the way that myself and others believe McGregor couldn't beat Eggington and he brings in Paulie for sparring.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on June 30, 2017, 10:48:51 PM
PAULIE MALIGNAGGI to be brought in as Conors sparring partner. lol This gets more interesting by the day  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0u8kbIsgvU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0u8kbIsgvU)

I would hope that Paulie will tell it like it is after the sparring. Feel like he has enough integrity to call a spade a spade. Hope he doesn't do the fake, "He surprised me with his power BS." He had previously said that he would smoke Conor and felt that he had no place in the ring with Floyd.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on June 30, 2017, 11:34:16 PM
I would hope that Paulie will tell it like it is after the sparring. Feel like he has enough integrity to call a spade a spade. Hope he doesn't do the fake, "He surprised me with his power BS." He had previously said that he would smoke Conor and felt that he had no place in the ring with Floyd.

If paulie really spars with him at 80% then Connor pulls out of the  fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on July 01, 2017, 06:20:35 AM
I would hope that Paulie will tell it like it is after the sparring. Feel like he has enough integrity to call a spade a spade. Hope he doesn't do the fake, "He surprised me with his power BS." He had previously said that he would smoke Conor and felt that he had no place in the ring with Floyd.

He's said he'll sign a comfidemtially agreement if asked so we probably won't hear anything about it.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 01, 2017, 11:20:28 AM
I would hope that Paulie will tell it like it is after the sparring. Feel like he has enough integrity to call a spade a spade. Hope he doesn't do the fake, "He surprised me with his power BS." He had previously said that he would smoke Conor and felt that he had no place in the ring with Floyd.

Paulie has a big mouth, he's the type to call a spade a spade. After saying that, he's a good professional also, he probably will come out with the ''he was way better than I thought, surprised me with his power'' spiel.

Paulie has a very high boxing IQ, he's being recruited for his knowledge as much as his ability to be a handful for conor in sparing.  Potentially a smart move from team Mcgregor.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 04, 2017, 11:58:59 AM
Now THAT is what i'm talking about

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/3942568/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-london-press-conference-wembley-stadium/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/3942568/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-london-press-conference-wembley-stadium/)

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/ufc/626096/Conor-McGregor-Floyd-Mayweather-World-Tour-Dana-White (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/ufc/626096/Conor-McGregor-Floyd-Mayweather-World-Tour-Dana-White)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 05, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
Mcgregors sparing partners have been nothing short of a joke so far. The guys he's brought in......thats no preparation to fight the best fighter on the planet.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/who-conor-mcgregor-sparring-he-prepares-floyd-mayweather-clash-1629075 (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/who-conor-mcgregor-sparring-he-prepares-floyd-mayweather-clash-1629075)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 10, 2017, 06:10:01 PM
Just revealed that Mayweather still hasn't paid his 2015 taxes. Idiot could owe as much as $100 million. After paying taxes for this next fight, he'll be lucky to break even. If his request to delay payment is denied, the IRS can start selling off his cars and property. Insane how horrible he is with money.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 10, 2017, 08:14:57 PM
^ Absolute idiot. Great businessman my arse. More like s kid with Millions who thinks he can throw money at everything not thinking it will one day run out. I'd be surprised if Mcgregor didn't take that bit of info and run with it at the Press conference......which is tommorow btw  :D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on July 10, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
^ Absolute idiot. Great businessman my arse. More like s kid with Millions who thinks he can throw money at everything not thinking it will one day run out. I'd be surprised if Mcgregor didn't take that bit of info and run with it at the Press conference......which is tommorow btw  :D

Presser's tomorrow? Which City mate?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 10, 2017, 09:44:54 PM
^ The first one is in Los Angeles tomorow night....
I don't think it will be like a typical UFC press conference but more like a boxing presser where 100 people go up to speak then the fighters. I hope it's not the latter.

$100 to get this fight on PPV HD   :-X


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on July 11, 2017, 05:47:08 AM
People say 'idiot' but....

If your not tought how to invest and save then it's highly likely you'll blow it.

I can't see his dad sitting down and showing him somehow :-)

Hardly the first boxer is he, certainly won't be the last


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 11, 2017, 09:31:22 AM
People say 'idiot' but....

If your not tought how to invest and save then it's highly likely you'll blow it.

I can't see his dad sitting down and showing him somehow :-)

Hardly the first boxer is he, certainly won't be the last
I disagree with that mate. He's surrounds himself with top business people at his promotional company, you'd think he would have learned something from them by now. Theres no excuse for that level of stupidity.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on July 11, 2017, 10:50:55 AM
I disagree with that mate. He's surrounds himself with top business people at his promotional company, you'd think he would have learned something from them by now. Theres no excuse for that level of stupidity.

Who exactly are these 'top business people' though?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on July 11, 2017, 11:00:43 AM
I disagree with that mate. He's surrounds himself with top business people at his promotional company, you'd think he would have learned something from them by now. Theres no excuse for that level of stupidity.

Do these top business people really care about Mayweather and his future? Wouldn't surprise me if the guy has been taken for a ride and ends up well out of pocket.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: DANIELK104 on July 11, 2017, 11:40:37 AM
Think its alot of crap to be honest by the sounds of things, just something to drum up more interest in this circus show, he probably also thought it was best to get this rectified ASAP in the media by the attached picture because you know McGregor would have been all over that at the Press Conference in LA tonight.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-i-gave-irs-26-million-2015-my-empire-rock-solid--118388 (http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-i-gave-irs-26-million-2015-my-empire-rock-solid--118388)

One of the bigger boxing stories in the last few days, was the fact that former five division world champion Floyd Mayweather filed an appeal with the IRS regarding overdue taxes.

Mayweather filed a tax court petition on July 5, asking the IRS to grant him a reprieve and allow him to pay his taxes after he is paid for next month's bout vs. mixed martial arts star Conor McGregor.

The 40-year-old Mayweather is coming out of retirement to face McGregor on Aug. 26 in a fight that could net the boxer a nine-figure payday.
floyd-mayweather (1)_4

The IRS wants Mayweather (49-0) to pay his taxes for 2015. Mayweather has earned an estimated $700 million in his career, Forbes magazine reported, including a staggering $220 million from his much-hyped fight against Manny Pacquiao in May 2015.

"Although the taxpayer has substantial assets, those assets are restricted and primarily illiquid," the petition by Mayweather said in a filing posting on Law360.com. "The taxpayer has a significant liquidity event scheduled in about 60 days from which he intends to pay the balance of the 2015 tax liability due and outstanding."
Mayweather, who retired from boxing after defeating Andre Berto in September 2015, took to social media to react to the circulating reports regarding his finances.

"Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear, especially when it comes to media in this country. While everyone is counting my money and assuming the worst, these are the facts... Uncle Sam, received $26,000,000.00 from me in 2015! What else could they possibly want? I'm sure I would have been notified much sooner if there were any real discrepancies right?," Mayweather stated.

"Bottom line, everybody just wants to be a part of the 'Money May' show, including the IRS! That's fine, you can crunch numbers all day but in the end, my empire is rock solid and intact! Now Calculate That!"


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: cloughie on July 11, 2017, 11:42:38 AM
Big Tim me 'owd, ahh's it guing youth?!

you seen RIngside abaht? he okay?

season starts soon . . . . . first one for me will be Brentford away aug 16th. you ar emore than welcome Big Tim to join, will have a ticket for you.

rgds/Cloughie


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on July 11, 2017, 11:44:32 AM
Who exactly are these 'top business people' though?

Al Haymon?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on July 11, 2017, 11:58:14 AM
Al Haymon?

Is he part of Mayweather Promotions?  Even if he was, it would probably be a good idea to get rid given the state of PBC at present.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 11, 2017, 12:19:09 PM


"Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear, especially when it comes to media in this country. While everyone is counting my money and assuming the worst, these are the facts... Uncle Sam, received $26,000,000.00 from me in 2015! What else could they possibly want? I'm sure I would have been notified much sooner if there were any real discrepancies right?," Mayweather stated.

"Bottom line, everybody just wants to be a part of the 'Money May' show, including the IRS! That's fine, you can crunch numbers all day but in the end, my empire is rock solid and intact! Now Calculate That!"

When the IRS is involved, you can rule out something being done for publicity.

Considering he was said to have made more than $250,000,000 in 2015, $26,000,000 wouldn't be anywhere close to what he owes. That's barely 10% of his earnings. No way his tax bracket is that low.

Think it's funny that he thinks he can strong arm the IRS. "Listen, you've had enough money for this year. That's all you are getting." A few months back Michael Bisping said that Floyd was rumored to have been swindled out of tens of millions of dollars. Would certainly make sense now with his current liquidity problem.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on July 11, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
Don king is a top businessman...

Didnt do mike any favours


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 11, 2017, 02:37:38 PM
Do these top business people really care about Mayweather and his future? Wouldn't surprise me if the guy has been taken for a ride and ends up well out of pocket.
Probably not, who knows. In the end I think Mayweather will be out of pocket because of his lavish spending than anything else. It's clear he needed this fight.

After Mcgregor, Mayweathers career earnings will be over the Billion $ mark. You don't get that far, especially if your a boxer if your not surrounded by clever people in the board room.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on July 11, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
I'm not sure that someone finally realising that he could nick some of Mike Trainers ideas necessarily means he's surrounded by smart people. 


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 11, 2017, 04:15:38 PM
I'm not sure that someone finally realising that he could nick some of Mike Trainers ideas necessarily means he's surrounded by smart people. 
It's not an assumption i'm prepared to go to great lengths to try and back up because i'm just assuming. Assuming that, if you make a billion dollars plus over a 15 year period as a boxer where the majority of boxers earn peanuts, baring in mind Floyd's earning this kinda cash in the lower weigh classes which is unheard of, then yeah, he has to be doing more than just winning fights. I don't think you do that surrounded by morons and allowing them to do deals for you and act as advisers. It's the consistency of his financial success which makes me think he's surrounded by intelligent people at Mayweather promotions. Despite his lavish spending.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on July 11, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
It's not an assumption i'm prepared to go to great lengths to try and back up because i'm just assuming. Assuming that, if you make a billion dollars plus over a 15 year period as a boxer where the majority of boxers earn peanuts, baring in mind Floyd's earning this kinda cash in the lower weigh classes which is unheard of, then yeah, he has to be doing more than just winning fights. I don't think you do that surrounded by morons and allowing them to do deals for you and act as advisers. It's the consistency of his financial success which makes me think he's surrounded by intelligent people at Mayweather promotions. Despite his lavish spending.



More money you got more fake friends you have.

He was the latinised villain and the A side .

Doubt his friends were advising him not to get a Bugatti Veron



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on July 11, 2017, 09:30:08 PM
This first presser is already absurd and it hasn't even started yet. You got a showtime panel including Brendan Shaub and Paulie Malignaggi debating the fight and Aloe Blacc has just performed on stage. The arena has a few thousand in attendance. For a bloody press conference.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Vincent Vega on July 11, 2017, 10:24:30 PM
F*ck me, Pauli has put on some timber.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 11, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
This first presser is already absurd and it hasn't even started yet. You got a showtime panel including Brendan Shaub and Paulie Malignaggi debating the fight and Aloe Blacc has just performed on stage. The arena has a few thousand in attendance. For a bloody press conference.

I thought the whole thing was amusing.......I don't like this boxing format though. Too much bullshit. Mayweather just came across as WWE, wearing 5 layers of clothes to make himself look bigger. Didn't really get to see any back and forth between the too because they cut Conors mic off. Disappointing.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 11, 2017, 11:58:19 PM
Absolutely brilliant exchange between Conor and Floyd sr at the media presser. This is what we missed at the press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvNVjc9x0dc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$1#errorNo longer available)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 12, 2017, 03:29:03 AM
Now claiming he owes $22,000,000 in taxes. Thought the press conference was pathetic. It's sad if he doesn't have that much liquidity after all the money he has made. Honestly, just a sad event. Two morally bankrupt individuals. At least Mayweather has actually earned his spot at the top. McGregor is a gimmick.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 12, 2017, 07:54:16 AM
Looks like the only reason Malignaggi was being brought into spar was to teach him a lesson. Mcgregor said as much. You can knock Paulie being brought in as a sparring partner on the head, theres no way he will come into Mcgregors training camp now.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on July 12, 2017, 07:56:13 AM
Looks like the only reason Malignaggi was being brought into spar was to teach him a lesson. Mcgregor said as much. You can knock Paulie being brought in as a sparring partner on the head, theres no way he will come into Mcgregors training camp now.


I can see him going down to prove a point actually.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on July 12, 2017, 05:12:34 PM
Absolutely brilliant exchange between Conor and Floyd sr at the media presser. This is what we missed at the press conference.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvNVjc9x0dc[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[/url]$1#errorNo longer available)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

All parties are on FULL BLAST on this one in terms of playing it up  ;D ;D ;D

Irrespective of the fact that this is a complete mismatch, the PPV figures and overall revenue that this event is gonna do is gonna be ASTRONOMICAL; I think the figures will even shock all involved in terms of projections...this is boxing, MMA and the pantomime of WWE all rolled into one event (a "fight" between these two would have actually been more befitting of a staged WWE event in all honesty)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 12, 2017, 08:47:15 PM
I can see him going down to prove a point actually.

Theres nothing friendly about this particular invitation. Paulie is still up for it. I doubt hes seen the interview. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKAq5Jo1BHc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKAq5Jo1BHc)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 12, 2017, 08:59:33 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

All parties are on FULL BLAST on this one in terms of playing it up  ;D ;D ;D

Irrespective of the fact that this is a complete mismatch, the PPV figures and overall revenue that this event is gonna do is gonna be ASTRONOMICAL; I think the figures will even shock all involved in terms of projections...this is boxing, MMA and the pantomime of WWE all rolled into one event (a "fight" between these two would have actually been more befitting of a staged WWE event in all honesty)

There were 200.000 watching the live youtube stream I was viewing. Just one of many live streams that were showing. Absolutely crazy.

Does anyone know if the fighters are doing the Max kellerman Faceoff interview? I haven't heard anything. It might be the only chance Mcgregor gets to reply to Floyds drivel.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 12, 2017, 11:07:26 PM
There were 200.000 watching the live youtube stream I was viewing. Just one of many live streams that were showing. Absolutely crazy.

Does anyone know if the fighters are doing the Max kellerman Faceoff interview? I haven't heard anything. It might be the only chance Mcgregor gets to reply to Floyds drivel.

E S P N recently did a poll on its boxing page and only 34% said they would buy it. Sizeable amount of the 150,000 that took the poll said they weren't interested, or it is too expensive. It will make a lot, but I do not think it will come anywhere near what manny and Floyd did. Think Floyd's IRS problems are only highlighting what a desperate money grab this is. Timing couldn't have been worse.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 12, 2017, 11:39:57 PM
Wow Mcgregor just absolutely DESTOYED and humiliated Mayweather and his whole team. That was brutal.  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 13, 2017, 03:45:33 AM
No disrespect to anyone who enjoys it, but I can't get behind press conferences for this. It's all just posturing for what is destined to be a horrible fight. I have a few friends on Facebook going nuts. I've only ever cared about this type of soap opera-ish drama before a fight when the tension is genuinely high because of the dangerousness of the matchup.

I know some people like it, but it is so boring to me. Drama and ugliness for the sake of selling the audience something that they are all destined to regret buying. Hope the poll numbers are accurate and this thing flops.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on July 13, 2017, 06:30:50 AM
Wow Mcgregor just absolutely DESTOYED and humiliated Mayweather and his whole team. That was brutal.  ;D

Are you sure ? I thought Mayweather edged it by shouting Hard Work! For the 80th time.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: legs on July 13, 2017, 10:20:06 AM
Shouting and insults mean nothing hardly seen any of the "exchanges" between the pair, both are being very well paid for this event BUT when the bell rings Floyd is going to run rings around him and make him look stupid.

I don't really like Floyd as a person or his dad the way he left Hatton on the canvas after Pacman KO'd him out tells you all you need to know about him, like most i'm more interested in Canelo v GGG still this is a huge event and its going to be comical to watch.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on July 13, 2017, 05:37:15 PM
I'll be honest....I'm sorta enjoying this little world tour.

I know its all bullsh*t and nonsense, but I like seeing Mayweather given sh*t and McGregor gave him plenty in Toronto in an entertaining and humorous way. Can't help but like McGregor as a person and character. I was hoping he'd chuck Mayweather's little ruck sack into the crowd with the cash in it.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: stinka on July 13, 2017, 08:53:07 PM
Agreed 100%

Connor has his number in the banter stakes


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 14, 2017, 02:03:59 AM
Newyork. That was the worst press conference i''ve ever seen.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 14, 2017, 06:38:29 AM
Agreed 100%

Connor has his number in the banter stakes

Let's be honest, anyone could be this way with Floyd. A boxing IQ of a genius, but the type of verbal reasoning skills that are just under what might send alarm bells off for assisted care professionals.

McGregor is doing nothing more than pointing at the slowest kid in class. He's not exactly clever himself. Dopey guy, with a half-washed accent - spewing WWE tag lines. This only stands out or matters because this is all being done in the absence of an actual fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on July 14, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
Newyork. That was the worst press conference i''ve ever seen.

Yeah that was pretty sh*t....after Toronto I had high hopes, but that was disappointing. Very muted. I think the 3rd one was always going to be the weakest. I expect better from London.

I hate Mayweather flunkies, Those stedheads getting involved mouths flapping. I still remember the clowns in Manchester when Mayweather came out holding his dick nearly caused a riot....and they all ran off crapping themselves.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on July 14, 2017, 08:31:13 AM
Are you sure ? I thought Mayweather edged it by shouting Hard Work! For the 80th time.



 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: SCOTTY'S SOBER on July 14, 2017, 09:19:40 AM
Remember when Floyd was actually known as a trash talker.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on July 14, 2017, 10:06:13 AM
I cant understand why people cant enjoy this for what it is..

Its not boxing its entertainment, pure entertainment  ;D

If i had the poke id go over to watch it just for the laugh. Get a WWE big Finger and all that   


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 14, 2017, 10:23:53 AM
Mayweather already throwing the race card around. Accuses Mcgregor of calling black people monkeys and disrespecting black women.  He really is taking it to the gutter.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on July 14, 2017, 10:32:00 AM
ITV Box Office are showing the London gig this evening for free.

They should get Stone Cold Steve Austin from WWE to be the special guest referee then he could Stone Cold Stunner them both at the end of the first round when they both throw punches after the bell followed by him popping open a few beers.   


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on July 14, 2017, 10:49:29 AM
Mayweather already throwing the race card around. Accuses Mcgregor of calling black people monkeys and disrespecting black women.  He really is taking it to the gutter.

Didn't Floyd smash the face in of a black woman and did jail ?

Mmm.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 14, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
They shared a private jet to the last press conference. Man, can cut this tension with a knife.

Edit- Apparently that is not true. Self admitted hater on this. Should probably just let people have their fun.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 16, 2017, 07:36:08 PM
Barrera's thoughts on Mayweather Mcgregor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNj1P7z8ggc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNj1P7z8ggc)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: cloughie on July 17, 2017, 07:26:19 AM
£89.99 for this PPV? really?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: legs on July 17, 2017, 09:43:43 AM
£89.99 for this PPV? really?

I believe in America it is $89.99 but an extra $10 for HD.

Not sure on UK prices but some of the press saying £60 (Good luck with that one especially for a fight at 5am UK time)



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on July 17, 2017, 11:42:08 AM
We as boxing fans know this is a joke fight. It won't be like the big show fight play as it'll be a real fight.
However if mcgregor sticks to the rules then he loses. Even if he catches floyd flush it will not result in a ko.
And if mcgregor doesn't stick to the rules he could win but and it's a big but.. He won't get paid.
It's only for money so he will stick to the rules and probably quit around round nine with horrendous facial injuries. Coz that boy is going to get whipped


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Driscoll on July 17, 2017, 04:52:36 PM
No way I'd pay more than 25 quid for this. If the unexpected was to happen and McGreggor won it could only be from a single shot KO in which case the video clip would be on social media 2 seconds after it happened.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on July 17, 2017, 07:53:02 PM
Rumours that McGregor has been KO'd in sparring against Brandon Rios.
Strange one given that Rios fights nothing like Floyd so would be crap prep, but this is a fairly strong rumour.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on July 17, 2017, 09:44:05 PM
Read a report from Rios himself saying it's nonsense (or 'bulls**t in his language) and he's never even been in the gym with McGregor.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 17, 2017, 09:54:18 PM
It's a fake rumour. Rio's stated he'd never even meet Mcgregor.

Malignaggi has finally confirmed that he's being brought into camp. He flys out to Vegas on wednesday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC85htMBOzc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC85htMBOzc)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on July 18, 2017, 03:11:19 AM
Jesse Vargas said it to Rios during an interview. Saw the video today. Rios wasn't the one who said it, but it was said to him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 22, 2017, 07:43:20 PM
Paulie sporting a black eye in an interview the day after he sparred Mcgregor. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when they went at it.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Kevan2 on July 29, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
Mayweather vs. McGregor - ALL ACCESS: Episode 1
http://youtu.be/eccLPmw3c20?t=61 (http://youtu.be/eccLPmw3c20?t=61)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on July 29, 2017, 04:02:03 PM
Watched this episode earlier today. The only noteworthy coming together between them was at the airport on the way to London when McG walked through the lounge with Mayweather sat there. A quick 'alright' between the pair and that was it. Hard to dislike a guy that's making you multi millions I suppose but when you see the stuff that's happened between DC and Cormier in the UFC's big fight build up this week, you realise just how much of a business arrangement this really is between Floyd and Conor (for those who weren't already full aware).

Must admit the casual in me is looking forward to the fight week. Should be good fun.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on July 29, 2017, 08:54:52 PM
Whilst the prices for this are daft, it does seem telling that it's not sold out and ticket master are letting people buy 6 at a time for this.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on July 31, 2017, 03:22:41 PM
Sky Sports have got the rights to this.  Not particularly surprising given that BN are already showing the Cotto fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on July 31, 2017, 06:38:36 PM
Mayweather vs. McGregor - ALL ACCESS: Episode 1
[url]http://youtu.be/eccLPmw3c20?t=61[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/eccLPmw3c20?t=61[/url])


That was poor. Extremely biased towards Floyd. So biased it made me wonder did Floyd edit this. In the verbal warfair Mcgregor tore Mayweather up, it showed non of that. It was a dishonest view of events. Surely showtime realize that the people watching this have already seen the footage they left out on youtube. Theyre not doing themselves any favours. It's Mcgregor who sells this fight not Mayweather.

''Form VOLTRON......... YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH''   ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Alvy on August 01, 2017, 08:49:11 AM
That was poor. Extremely biased towards Floyd. So biased it made me wonder did Floyd edit this.

I noticed at the end credits, Mayweather was listed as the shows producer so that would explain a lot!


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on August 01, 2017, 05:46:09 PM
Re-sale market is flopping on tickets. They massively overcooked this whole thing. Won't come anywhere near the ppv record. Don't know a single person (near my neck of the woods) willing to buy it at 100 USD. Especially, just before the genuine ppv between Canelo and GGG.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 02, 2017, 04:27:10 AM
Re-sale market is flopping on tickets. They massively overcooked this whole thing. Won't come anywhere near the ppv record. Don't know a single person (near my neck of the woods) willing to buy it at 100 USD. Especially, just before the genuine ppv between Canelo and GGG.

I think you could be right...I did at one time believe that this would smash ALL records but I'm starting to re-evaluate that position. For me personally, I think the pressers saturated a lot of the hype and kind of exposed the whole thing for the farce that it really is...it's not looking good in terms of the secondary ticket market and 100 dollars is a lot of money to watch on TV...it will probably do well outside the US with lower costs to purchase i.e. only 20 quid to watch in UK etc but will be interesting to see how it all and out stateside


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on August 02, 2017, 07:23:59 AM
I'm abroad on family holiday, but I don't think I'd have got up to watch it live tbh anyway, unless I placed a bet on Floid.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 02, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
It doesn't seem to particularly have a big fight feel about it and it's only three weeks to the 'fight' on Saturday.  There again, now Sky have the rights I'm sure they will start bombarding viewers with BS non-stop until the 26th.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 02, 2017, 08:58:28 AM
To be fair I don't recall too much about the build up to May-Pacquiao until the week of the fight either but it did pretty well by all accounts. I'm not sure that press tour did much to win over people who are sceptical about the merits of the event so I'd say it's best if the press is kept to a minimum until the week of the fight when we'll have all the usual pre-fight build up, and you'll have both guys fight-ready in mentality and physicality. That's where the hype I think will kick into gear and people will become more enthused about the show and more likely to buy the PPV. Besides 3 weeks out either of the could get injured anyway so why buy something now when you can easily wait til the last minute to click a simple order button?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 02, 2017, 12:23:49 PM
Re-sale market is flopping on tickets. They massively overcooked this whole thing. Won't come anywhere near the ppv record. Don't know a single person (near my neck of the woods) willing to buy it at 100 USD. Especially, just before the genuine ppv between Canelo and GGG.

I disagree the turnout to the 4 pre-fight conferences had a ridiculous amount of people attending. Although it was all WWE esk... doesn't mean people will not pay for it.
If I wasn't interested in watching it - I would never take the time to attend such an event... even if it is was free.

Plus by the sounds of the huge crowds - it seems they gave them what they all wanted... I bet 90% of those fans were not boxing fans anyway.

Though to most of us, it was just pure cringe.

I still can't believe the prices people were paying for the May v Pac CCTV... add to that an insane group of Irish contingency for any excuse for a night out.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Kevan2 on August 02, 2017, 12:46:52 PM
Dana White’s Video Blog | MAY/MAC WORLD TOUR | Ep. 6
http://youtu.be/GwD65N0F_ik?t=45 (http://youtu.be/GwD65N0F_ik?t=45)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Driscoll on August 02, 2017, 12:55:32 PM
There'll be a "Floyd carrying an injury" rumour in fight week to get a last minute boost in the sales. Now that's it's confirmed 20 quid I'll almost definitely order it, anything north of 30 quid I probably wouldn't have bothered.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Driscoll on August 04, 2017, 06:37:03 AM
I see Paulie's upset about the pictures being released of sparring from the McGreggor camp. Threatened to release the full unedited 12 round sparring. Also said "he beat his ass" in another tweet which has now been deleted.

If that video does get released the whole PPV will collapse. Paulie could earn a nice few $$$ in hush money.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 04, 2017, 09:43:28 AM
I see Paulie's upset about the pictures being released of sparring from the McGreggor camp. Threatened to release the full unedited 12 round sparring. Also said "he beat his ass" in another tweet which has now been deleted.

If that video does get released the whole PPV will collapse. Paulie could earn a nice few $$$ in hush money.

Malignaggi has now left the McGregor camp


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 04, 2017, 02:04:00 PM
I hope they have some sort of helpline set up for all the gullible fools that have been conned into thinking McGregor is going to KO Floyd.

Has he even got a boxing trainer in camp to try and correct his awful stance and the way he drops his guard when he throws a punch?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 04, 2017, 02:42:20 PM
Malignaggi has now left the McGregor camp

This is not good. Really poor from Mcgregor and his team. It appeared the only reason Conor wanted Paulie in there was to beat up on him for comments that were made a year ago. Very unprofessional and a missed opportunity. Paulie has one of the brightest minds in boxing. Why would use not use that to your advantage? According to paulie they never asked him for advice.

Conor appears to be nothing more than a bully and I think he is going to get a taste of his own medicine come fight night. Posting pics of that 12 round sparring session of Paulie getting smacked in the face was unnecessary. Malignaggi was a top professional and has an ego, show the guy some respect, he was there to help.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 04, 2017, 05:34:42 PM
I think Malignaggi was massively naive to think he was going to be listened to by that camp tbh. They have always had their own way of doing things and make a massive point of being different and very much in their own mindset. Seemed obvious to me from the start that Paulie was only being brought in for Conor to try and make a point after everything Paulie had previously said about the fight being a non event.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 04, 2017, 06:38:32 PM
Conors camps is a shambles. Paulie would have been giving Conor good sparring from now until the fight. Mayweather has been sparring with Gervonta Davis, Adrien Broner and he's now flown in Eubank jr. Who's conor sparring with? A bunch of nobodies and Artem Lobov.  //


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 05, 2017, 06:46:18 AM
For anyone to infer that any ounce of success against malignaggi will be a great step to defeating mayweather is simply deluding themselves. It doesn't bear any relevance to what will transpire on the night... apart from attracting a few more gullible PPV buys.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Kevan2 on August 05, 2017, 07:45:50 AM
Mayweather vs McGregor - All Access: Episode 2
http://youtu.be/U29iDF-uMdg?t=73 (http://youtu.be/U29iDF-uMdg?t=73)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 09, 2017, 08:15:35 PM
Carl Froch: Conor McGregor can shock Floyd Mayweather
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40875368 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40875368)

Good to see he managed to mention filling Wembley as well


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on August 09, 2017, 10:47:19 PM
Carl Froch: Conor McGregor can shock Floyd Mayweather
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40875368[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40875368[/url])

Good to see he managed to mention filling Wembley as well
Carl Froch: Conor McGregor can shock Floyd Mayweather
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40875368[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40875368[/url])

Good to see he managed to mention filling Wembley as well


Where's Tim??


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on August 10, 2017, 12:18:45 AM
Tbh it's my only concern about Floyd. He looked pretty average against Berto & Maidana. And that was a couple of years ago. Especially when you look how terrible Haye looked after his absence.

Still, should have miles too much for CM.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 10, 2017, 06:23:04 AM
Tbh it's my only concern about Floyd. He looked pretty average against Berto & Maidana. And that was a couple of years ago. Especially when you look how terrible Haye looked after his absence.

Still, should have miles too much for CM.

There's a new video with Floyd by Fighthype where he seems to say something about his knees, checks himself then stops talking about it on camera...I am starting to wonder whether his body could betray him in his fight, especially after two years out...no doubt, skill set vs skill set, Floyd has way too much for McGregor, but as they say, age is the great equaliser...


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on August 10, 2017, 07:05:57 AM
There's a new video with Floyd by Fighthype where he seems to say something about his knees, checks himself then stops talking about it on camera...I am starting to wonder whether his body could betray him in his fight, especially after two years out...no doubt, skill set vs skill set, Floyd has way too much for McGregor, but as they say, age is the great equaliser...

You're seriously buying this manufactured storyline?

There is absolutely no storyline to make this fight seem genuinely competitive, so they are resorting to saying that Floyd is now washed up and injured. Never before has a major event been sold by focusing on how bad one competitor is. This thing sinks lower by the day...


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Jake Barnes on August 10, 2017, 08:01:11 AM
There's a new video with Floyd by Fighthype where he seems to say something about his knees, checks himself then stops talking about it on camera...I am starting to wonder whether his body could betray him in his fight, especially after two years out...no doubt, skill set vs skill set, Floyd has way too much for McGregor, but as they say, age is the great equaliser...

I have some snake oil I can sell you.

Please PM to meet! :)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 10, 2017, 08:13:07 AM
You're seriously buying this manufactured storyline?

There is absolutely no storyline to make this fight seem genuinely competitive, so they are resorting to saying that Floyd is now washed up and injured. Never before has a major event been sold by focusing on how bad one competitor is. This thing sinks lower by the day...

Yes agree, i disagree with your views on this fight and not buying it, your choice of course but i'd argue im certainly as big a fan as you and i want to watch the fight. I dont view it as 'boxing' and im gutted floyd takes rocky record but i have no issue with it. But anybody who is getting duped into believing this is slightly competative needs to give their head a wobble.

Making floyd look vulnerable makes it look like connor has a chance = more buys.. Simple


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on August 10, 2017, 09:45:29 AM
Floyd has officially submitted a request for 8oz gloves to be worn? What do we reckon will the commission sanction it?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 10, 2017, 09:55:06 AM
Floyd has officially submitted a request for 8oz gloves to be worn? What do we reckon will the commission sanction it?

They sanctioned a guy who is 49-0 to fight a guy that is 0-0 so I imagine they'd agree a request for both fighters to wear clown shoes in the ring if it was proposed.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 10, 2017, 12:23:19 PM
Where's Tim??

I'm just loving how the Nottingham duo of Froch and Hardy will be commentating on this fight.

Other then that there's nothing much to talk about.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on August 10, 2017, 06:13:18 PM
Yes agree, i disagree with your views on this fight and not buying it, your choice of course but i'd argue im certainly as big a fan as you and i want to watch the fight. I dont view it as 'boxing' and im gutted floyd takes rocky record but i have no issue with it. But anybody who is getting duped into believing this is slightly competative needs to give their head a wobble.

Making floyd look vulnerable makes it look like connor has a chance = more buys.. Simple

I'm trying to catch myself and not attack others for wanting to watch it, but I find it hard to not comment on the obsurdity of it all.

Floyd's sparring partners will probably get a stern talking to this week. All came out and said he is still unbeatable in boxing. They claim he hasn't lost a step. Doesn't really go with the "I'm washed up" storyline.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 10, 2017, 08:41:28 PM
I have some snake oil I can sell you.

Please PM to meet! :)

No comment


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 10, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
You're seriously buying this manufactured storyline?

There is absolutely no storyline to make this fight seem genuinely competitive, so they are resorting to saying that Floyd is now washed up and injured. Never before has a major event been sold by focusing on how bad one competitor is. This thing sinks lower by the day...

If you read my post properly, you will see that I made it very clear that there is no comparison in terms of boxing skill sets, but the bottom line is that he's a 40 year old man who's been out of the ring for two years, and as such it's valid to wonder whether that could be a factor in the fight. You can't buck the laws of Physics.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 10, 2017, 08:55:06 PM
I'm trying to catch myself and not attack others for wanting to watch it, but I find it hard to not comment on the obsurdity of it all.

Floyd's sparring partners will probably get a stern talking to this week. All came out and said he is still unbeatable in boxing. They claim he hasn't lost a step. Doesn't really go with the "I'm washed up" storyline.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything mate, but if you have no interest in the fight then you really shouldn't comment on the fight at all, or read anything to do about it, and just let the event pass. To be honest, part of me feels that way, part of me just wants to get the whole thing out of the way and focus on GGG-Canelo, but a big part of me is genuinely intrigued by the match-up, how Mayweather's age and lay-off could affect him, but more than likely, how much of a boxing clinic Conor will have to endure and how he will react to that


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on August 10, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
They sanctioned a guy who is 49-0 to fight a guy that is 0-0 so I imagine they'd agree a request for both fighters to wear clown shoes in the ring if it was proposed.

Genuinely lol' at that! Cheers mate  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on August 11, 2017, 02:38:03 AM
I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything mate, but if you have no interest in the fight then you really shouldn't comment on the fight at all, or read anything to do about it, and just let the event pass. To be honest, part of me feels that way, part of me just wants to get the whole thing out of the way and focus on GGG-Canelo, but a big part of me is genuinely intrigued by the match-up, how Mayweather's age and lay-off could affect him, but more than likely, how much of a boxing clinic Conor will have to endure and how he will react to that

Avoiding it altogether would be avoiding boxing as a sport entirely, which stokes my frustration. I think it also boils over from the media cramming this fight down the public's throat as the fight of the century. I would have much less of a problem with it it was treated as a boxing exhibition of sorts and as a WWE type thing. However, it has engulfed sports media and some of the more noteworthy boxing events of the year are being overlooked as a result. Case in point: Canelo vs GGG hardly getting a mention because of this. It's hard not to comment on something that literally interrupts what you do like talking about, but I get your point.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 11, 2017, 08:01:16 AM
Avoiding it altogether would be avoiding boxing as a sport entirely, which stokes my frustration. I think it also boils over from the media cramming this fight down the public's throat as the fight of the century. I would have much less of a problem with it it was treated as a boxing exhibition of sorts and as a WWE type thing. However, it has engulfed sports media and some of the more noteworthy boxing events of the year are being overlooked as a result. Case in point: Canelo vs GGG hardly getting a mention because of this. It's hard not to comment on something that literally interrupts what you do like talking about, but I get your point.

Fair enough mate...I think the fight is a WWE event all but in name to be honest. I think the fight will be a farce, not just because Conor doesn't have the right skilset to be jumping onto a boxing ring, but also because I do expect Floyd to have slipped due to his age and lay off etc...Floyd will probably put on a clinic, but it won't be to the standard we expect from him...Floyd was already showing signs of slipping in his past few fights, so it will be to a greater extent now
 I expect a poor quality fight


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on August 11, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
I'm not watching it.

I'll catch the highlights.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 11, 2017, 10:54:07 AM
How many PPV buys do people think this will do? Initially, I thought this would break all records but I now doubt that stance


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 11, 2017, 10:01:20 PM
Not watching it, no interest in it as it's a pre-determined farce.
If this is legit then floyd wins in the first 2 minutes, anything else is scripted.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 12, 2017, 06:24:32 AM
Mcgregor lands a crunching left hand against Malignaggi.

If he manages to land anything like that on mayweather it would be deemed a glowing success regardless of the eventual outcome imo.

https://youtu.be/WcHVsZGyZOw


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 12, 2017, 09:58:24 AM
wasn't Malignaggi clamining he could beat Conor with one hand tied behind his back.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: stinka on August 12, 2017, 10:31:42 AM
Paulie is fat and washed up, where as Connor is in the shape of his life. Roughing up a tired paulie in the 12th round of sparring means nothing. Floyd will toy with him


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 12, 2017, 10:35:00 AM
Paulie is fat and washed up, where as Connor is in the shape of his life. Roughing up a tired paulie in the 12th round of sparring means nothing. Floyd will toy with him

This is true, plenty of people out there giving Conor far to much credit but I'd also say there's plenty of people out there not giving him enough...I think he could be a half decent boxer but he has zero chance of beating Mayweather in his first ever pro boxing match.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jorg21 on August 12, 2017, 11:56:02 AM
Wonder what Paulie will say now that the footage has been released and shows it wasn't a push.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 12, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
If that's the best they could find of McGregor from a 36 minute spar then he doesn't even have a 1% chance.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jorg21 on August 12, 2017, 12:28:18 PM
If that's the best they could find of McGregor from a 36 minute spar then he doesn't even have a 1% chance.

We all knew that anyway it's a money making exercise nothing more.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 12, 2017, 01:08:12 PM
If that's the best they could find of McGregor from a 36 minute spar then he doesn't even have a 1% chance.
A sloppy knock down plus Paulie getting worked over. .....that's pretty decent work. They were never going to release more than that before the fight


Having said that I am a little skeptical. The different accounts of that last spar from both guys couldn't be more further apart. Mcgregor is doing an incredible job selling this fight to the casuals.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 12, 2017, 08:07:29 PM
A sloppy knock down plus Paulie getting worked over. .....that's pretty decent work. They were never going to release more than that before the fight


Having said that I am a little skeptical. The different accounts of that last spar from both guys couldn't be more further apart. Mcgregor is doing an incredible job selling this fight to the casuals.

He's sold it to you mate, I don't know anyone else who thinks this is anything but bollox.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mattbaker1510 on August 13, 2017, 10:49:03 AM
90% of me thinks this will be a walk over for Mayweather.  He can/should be able to dance rings around Mcgregor all night long and not have a glove laid on him.  I do have two questions:

1. Floyd has been out of the ring, is old and is coming back for money.  Never in the history of boxing has this been a successful combination.  For one fight maybe it will be OK though, given the opposition.

2. The Maidana fight.  Maidana was big, crude and didn't give a shit about being hit.  Perhaps there is a blueprint for a big guy with a good chin to walk Floyd down and land a few good ones to the head.  McGregor is bigger than I thought, if he can take a few to land and he has worked on his stamina he has a video to watch and follow thanks to Maidana.

I think all this is grasping at straws in some way.  I think McGregor will come out strong for a round or two, get tagged and stunned a few times and then go into his shell and follow FMJ around the ring like every other slugger ends up doing.

Personally, I hope he comes out all guns blazing, roughs the hell out of FMJ and goes for broke and retires out on his shield.  If Hatton and Maidana can do it there is no excuse for him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 13, 2017, 12:48:42 PM
He's sold it to you mate, I don't know anyone else who thinks this is anything but bollox.

Haha he hasn'the sold to me....I'm just speculating that's all.  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on August 13, 2017, 07:40:30 PM
I remember reading similar posts in the week before Audley Harrison fought Haye.

Connor has no chance against Floyd. None. Zero.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 13, 2017, 09:28:06 PM
I remember reading similar posts in the week before Audley Harrison fought Haye.

Connor has no chance against Floyd. None. Zero.

I do need to know Conor's position on Stonebridge Playground before I can make an informed decision.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 13, 2017, 10:22:03 PM
I remember reading similar posts in the week before Audley Harrison fought Haye.

Connor has no chance against Floyd. None. Zero.
True but........the fantasist in me would like to think that he does. (even though he doesn't.)

I can't see it going past 6. MMA fighters don't get hit to the body anywhere near as they do in boxing. Floyd goes to the body alot over 12 rounds. I'd be suprised if Mcgregor can take a consistent body attack over 6/7 rounds.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 13, 2017, 10:28:31 PM
Only issue I have it being an 'official' bout.

It's not it's entertainment that's all. Some boxer that learned to manipulate media (love him or hate him)  Oh and was destined to be about the best of my gen that's selling out v some C**t from UFC that isn't a boxer ...

It's as bad as hearing a scot bigging up burns.

As much as I'd hate the UFC backlash I kinda hope pbf gets laid out


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 14, 2017, 08:57:30 AM
I've just seen far too many sporting events over the years and witnessed too many shock results to be able to completely rule out something weird happening in this fight. 28 pages on this thread also shows the level of interest whether people are prepared to acknowledge their intrigue in the event or not, so one way or another it has captured the imagination.

That being said, I don't believe McGregor has a chance. it should just be a lot of fun while it lasts. I'm a solid boxing fan but I'm more than happy to be a casual follower of this, no money will leave my pockets in order to watch it, it will end, and then both boxing and MMA worlds will move on.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 14, 2017, 10:36:31 AM
To be fair mcgregor'straight left is fast and caught paulie flush a few times.
He is so much bigger than paulie though, combined with a the power that paulie has he can take liberties.

Plus let's not forget he is totally out of fight shape, retired and long in the tooth after a tough career.

But mcgregor moves fast and is strong, this could spell trouble for mayweather.
I'm going to stick my neck on the line here and say mayweather suffers a knock down early on but prevails.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 14, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
In his last fight Paulie took a pasting from Sam Eggington and was KO'd when he was in shape.   

No one would give Eggington a chance against Floyd but somehow find a reason to give McGregor a shot of pulling off the victory. 


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mattbaker1510 on August 14, 2017, 01:14:46 PM
I remember reading similar posts in the week before Audley Harrison fought Haye.

Connor has no chance against Floyd. None. Zero.

Always a punchers chance I think but nothing more.

Audley Harrison comparison is a bit harsh :)  One thing I think we can agree on is McGregor comes to fight, he probably won't get the chance but he'll try.  Audley was a bully who panicked when confronted with a fighter.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 14, 2017, 07:17:57 PM
90% of me thinks this will be a walk over for Mayweather.  He can/should be able to dance rings around Mcgregor all night long and not have a glove laid on him.  I do have two questions:

1. Floyd has been out of the ring, is old and is coming back for money.  Never in the history of boxing has this been a successful combination.  For one fight maybe it will be OK though, given the opposition.

2. The Maidana fight.  Maidana was big, crude and didn't give a shit about being hit.  Perhaps there is a blueprint for a big guy with a good chin to walk Floyd down and land a few good ones to the head.  McGregor is bigger than I thought, if he can take a few to land and he has worked on his stamina he has a video to watch and follow thanks to Maidana.

I think all this is grasping at straws in some way.  I think McGregor will come out strong for a round or two, get tagged and stunned a few times and then go into his shell and follow FMJ around the ring like every other slugger ends up doing.

Personally, I hope he comes out all guns blazing, roughs the hell out of FMJ and goes for broke and retires out on his shield.  If Hatton and Maidana can do it there is no excuse for him.

Great analysis...

The other factor is the fight being at 154...he's only fought at that weight twice, Vs De La Hoya and Cotto (I don't include Canelo as that was at a catchweight) and Floyd wasn't at his best in either of those fights...I still think he will win comfortably but I do expect his age (40), layoff (2 years), motivation (purely for money) and weight division (154) to play some kind of factor into his overall performance...this fight is ALL about what Floyd has left


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 15, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
Tbh if McGregor goes the distance he'll be in no worse a position then the likes of Canelo and Pacquiao.

I can see Conor making even more money out of boxing after this fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 15, 2017, 05:48:02 PM
Tbh if McGregor goes the distance he'll be in no worse a position then the likes of Canelo and Pacquiao.

I can see Conor making even more money out of boxing after this fight.

I was just thinking the other day I can see him v Malignaggi in NY after this.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 15, 2017, 06:30:24 PM
I was just thinking the other day I can see him v Malignaggi in NY after this.

Almost a cert. the guys driven by money and boxing is where the money is at.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 16, 2017, 06:27:45 AM
I was just thinking the other day I can see him v Malignaggi in NY after this.

Definitely...I would actually prefer to see that fight than the Mayweather one in all honesty


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Driscoll on August 16, 2017, 08:19:11 AM
Whts he point in that? Malignaggi wasn't exactly a big draw in his prime. Why would it be any different now he's retired and well over the hill? Surely there's no money in it.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 16, 2017, 08:46:34 AM
Why anybody would want to watch malignaggi take yet another beating in the ring is beyond me.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jaff_no1 on August 16, 2017, 09:32:07 AM
Why anybody would want to watch malignaggi take yet another beating in the ring is beyond me.
Mallignaggi has said the fight can happen if McGregor doesn't look s**t against Floyd. A bit rich from a bloke who just got out classed by Sam eggington


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 16, 2017, 09:33:20 AM
Whts he point in that? Malignaggi wasn't exactly a big draw in his prime. Why would it be any different now he's retired and well over the hill? Surely there's no money in it.

McGregor sells fights....fact.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 16, 2017, 12:17:18 PM
Whts he point in that? Malignaggi wasn't exactly a big draw in his prime. Why would it be any different now he's retired and well over the hill? Surely there's no money in it.

McGregor could make money fighting a blow up doll.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on August 16, 2017, 01:08:36 PM
McGregor could make money fighting a blow up doll.

And it would turn you on


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 16, 2017, 03:01:21 PM
And it would turn you on

And you'd post on the build up thread for it several times despite declaring it doesn't interest you in the slightest.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Boeing787 on August 16, 2017, 05:52:24 PM
8oz gloves ageeed for the fight


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 16, 2017, 06:56:31 PM
Easier for Floyd to stop Conor then.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on August 16, 2017, 07:49:34 PM
Easier for Floyd to stop Conor then.

You reckon??

I hope you're right... I don't see the logic myself.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 16, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
You reckon??

I hope you're right... I don't see the logic myself.

There will just be that little bit of extra pop in each shot that Conor get hit with that he doesn't see coming. It was Floyd that suggested it so it can only see it being a benefit to himself or it'd have been left at 10 as per the actual proper rules.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Driscoll on August 16, 2017, 08:14:32 PM
Mayweather should want to humiliate him. All the stick McGreggors been giving him in the build up i would've thought he'd like nothing more than to embarass him and take away any potential future paydays.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AndyE on August 16, 2017, 10:12:35 PM
8oz gloves confirmed...


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 17, 2017, 05:02:08 AM
Mayweather wants to end his illustrious career with a knockout, Ridiculous pay cheque, and a 50-0 perfect record.... and many people will pay in the hope to see that he doesn't manage it.

With the outcome of so many recent high profile fights determined by freak injuries... you just never know... and some will not want to see that spectacle second hand.  


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Laney on August 18, 2017, 08:33:41 AM
This is going to sell like hot cakes.

So many of my "casual" mates asking where am I watching "the fight" next weekend!

They cant quite interpret my response when I say I'm not watching it...


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 18, 2017, 11:35:42 AM
 I Don't think it would matter if Mcgregor wore UFC gloves he has to hit to hurt and that will be his biggest problem.

Like trying to catch smoke


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 18, 2017, 07:55:09 PM
8oz gloves confirmed...

This has sealed mcgregors fate. Not that his fate wasn't  sealed already but with 8oz gloves mayweather will kill him inside 3/4 rounds. Conor hasn't a clue what awaits him.
8oz give mcgregor a chance of hurting mayweather but he has to actually land first


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 19, 2017, 07:06:20 AM
I just hope for the Nevada State Commissions sake, nothing bad happens to Conor...

As good an MMA fighter he is, the fact is that he is an 0-0-0 boxer making his debut against the best fighter of his generation, and now in a glove weight deemed by Physicians to be potentially dangerous for the 154 weight class.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: unknown on August 19, 2017, 12:20:51 PM
who pushed for the 8oz, conor?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on August 19, 2017, 12:24:34 PM
who pushed for the 8oz, conor?

Floyd did in one of the press conferences, seemed like lip service but Conor did say do it then and he has so fair play.

Floyd must be confident his hands will hold together, does give Floyd an advantage but probably also helps Conor's chances too though.

He'd have to land a punch like the one Mosley did though.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 19, 2017, 05:06:14 PM
I will be amazed if Mcgregor with zero pro fights manages to solve the shoulder roll defence avoid getting countered and land a haymaker that turns mayweathers lights out. Is that actually possible ? It cannot be.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: stinka on August 19, 2017, 05:31:09 PM
Connor has a few advantages. He's a southpaw, younger, bigger, unknown quantity, powerful. Floyd has age against him and inactivity. I'm excited about this freak fight, but still realistic about the gulf in class. I'd love Connor to knock him out tho and that is why I'll watch it.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 19, 2017, 07:07:07 PM
I will be amazed if Mcgregor with zero pro fights manages to solve the shoulder roll defence avoid getting countered and land a haymaker that turns mayweathers lights out. Is that actually possible ? It cannot be.

Maybe after decades of unsuccessful Othordox approaches to his defence it may actually be something unorthodox that is effective. Maidana arguably the least Orthodox of all his opponents found a good amount of success. Very slim chances but I'm looking forward to finding out..


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 19, 2017, 11:14:36 PM
When did Floyd last take a fight he didn't know he could win? Maybe ODLH around a decade ago.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Alba on August 20, 2017, 07:14:13 AM
who pushed for the 8oz, conor?

The Jews? ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 20, 2017, 09:54:02 AM
Connor has a few advantages. He's a southpaw, younger, bigger, unknown quantity, powerful. Floyd has age against him and inactivity. I'm excited about this freak fight, but still realistic about the gulf in class. I'd love Connor to knock him out tho and that is why I'll watch it.

Mcgregors power is questionable in a boxing ring. Boxers are trained to take a punch, theyre used to it and know how to ride shots, MMA guys don't. I don't think Mcgregor has the power advantage.

Great breakdown by Van Heerden and his trainer weighing up Conors power with other boxers and makes the truth a depressing reality. As a Conor fan boy it's not want you want to hear. Conor has got nothing to offer Floyd and with 8oz gloves on, Conors  F***ed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHgFefqF80 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHgFefqF80)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on August 20, 2017, 12:53:06 PM
Yeah boxers are trained to ride, block or catch a punch along with head movement, MMA strikers have to rely more on movement because the gloves don't offer the surface area to block and cover up.

What Mcgregor can do in terms of movement so can Mayweather


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 21, 2017, 11:45:08 AM
Floyd has an injured hand (apparently)

http://www.scrapdigest.com/bombshell-floyd-mayweather-injured-hand-conor-mcgregor-fight/22888/ (http://www.scrapdigest.com/bombshell-floyd-mayweather-injured-hand-conor-mcgregor-fight/22888/)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 21, 2017, 12:11:16 PM
Floyd has an injured hand (apparently)

[url]http://www.scrapdigest.com/bombshell-floyd-mayweather-injured-hand-conor-mcgregor-fight/22888/[/url] ([url]http://www.scrapdigest.com/bombshell-floyd-mayweather-injured-hand-conor-mcgregor-fight/22888/[/url])

 
Thus giving Coning a chance :-) F*ck off floyd


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Laney on August 21, 2017, 02:09:20 PM
Those odds are gonna keep coming in on Floyd!


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: SCOTTY'S SOBER on August 21, 2017, 09:36:56 PM
Mayweather has amassed 700 million from boxing but still goes on about institutionalised racism  :-\


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 22, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
Despite logic what are the odds on Connor by KO?

Might be worth even a fiver on it?  I would rather throw a fiver at it for that than fork out for the PPV.

But I do actually feel that this might not turn out as easy a night for Mayweather as we all predict.  Remember like others have said it is that unorthodox approach and wildness that might cause issues.

But then I breathe and think yes he may go totally nuts from the first bell....But then once he misses and gets tagged clean a few times, then hits fresh air he will think twice.

And then again Pride seeps in...Does Mcgregor lose it and simply round house Mayweather and just laugh.  He is a maman and what are the fines / lack of purse if he does foul?



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 22, 2017, 03:04:59 PM
Mayweather has amassed 700 million from boxing but still goes on about institutionalised racism  :-\

Would have been 701 million if he were white. #boxerprivilidge


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 22, 2017, 03:07:26 PM
Despite logic what are the odds on Connor by KO?

Might be worth even a fiver on it?  I would rather throw a fiver at it for that than fork out for the PPV.

But I do actually feel that this might not turn out as easy a night for Mayweather as we all predict.  Remember like others have said it is that unorthodox approach and wildness that might cause issues.

But then I breathe and think yes he may go totally nuts from the first bell....But then once he misses and gets tagged clean a few times, then hits fresh air he will think twice.

And then again Pride seeps in...Does Mcgregor lose it and simply round house Mayweather and just laugh.  He is a maman and what are the fines / lack of purse if he does foul?



Gotta have that fiver on Conor by stoppage in first 6....nothing to do with him being good enough to pull that off but because of the fact that the best result financially for Mayweather would be a loss.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 22, 2017, 08:49:43 PM
29 pages of a shite fight, not for boxing experts, complete mismatch etc etc ..

Cotto fights same night just so you purist know  :-*


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 22, 2017, 09:09:13 PM
29 pages of a shite fight, not for boxing experts, complete mismatch etc etc ..

Cotto fights same night just so you purist know  :-*

Cotto fights a genuine boxer in just as big a mismatch as Mayweather v McGregor.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 23, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
Cotto fights a genuine boxer in just as big a mismatch as Mayweather v McGregor.

I'd say he has slightly more of a chance than Connor :-) I don't really know much about him tbh. I don't think he will hit hard enough at the weight from the limited info I do know


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 23, 2017, 11:59:52 AM
I'd say he has slightly more of a chance than Connor :-) I don't really know much about him tbh. I don't think he will hit hard enough at the weight from the limited info I do know

They're both 3/1 with the bookies...although Conor's odd have been advanced as so many idiots have bet on him. Still I think Floyd has a harder night then Cotto.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: DANIELK104 on August 23, 2017, 12:15:33 PM
Mayweather now 4/5 with bet365 to win by KO/ TKO & DQ...If that hits EVS I will be all over that, no way I see this fight lasting 12 rounds.

Not that McGregor will take him 12 but the fact Mayweather is going to connect cleanly on him that many times his face is going to cut up that his corner will throw the towel in or the fight is stopped. Its a loss for boxing if this goes the full 12.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Motion on August 23, 2017, 02:58:36 PM
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Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mac-rebel021 on August 23, 2017, 06:51:40 PM
Mayweather now 4/5 with bet365 to win by KO/ TKO & DQ...If that hits EVS I will be all over that, no way I see this fight lasting 12 rounds.

Not that McGregor will take him 12 but the fact Mayweather is going to connect cleanly on him that many times his face is going to cut up that his corner will throw the towel in or the fight is stopped. Its a loss for boxing if this goes the full 12.

No way does the corner throw the towel in. Some of the injuries I have seem mma fighter's have and there isnt even a muttering of stopping the fight


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 23, 2017, 08:37:47 PM
No way does the corner throw the towel in. Some of the injuries I have seem mma fighter's have and there isnt even a muttering of stopping the fight

That doesn't mean they won't stop the fight. Plenty of boxers have had awful injuries be the broken jaws, dislocated shoulders, horrendous cuts and the towel has been nowhere close.

But once a fighter is being continually caught with clean headshots that he isn't seeing coming, that can be a very different story.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 23, 2017, 08:54:46 PM
Paddy power have paid out on any single beta on mayweather  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 23, 2017, 09:14:34 PM
What do you really want to see as a result in this fight?

Mayweather blown away and the connected ruin of boxing?

Or do you want to see Mcgregor smashed to pieces and bleeding and having no choice but to quit?

He could get seriously hurt.  But ask an MMA fan and they are like no way he will get hurt after UFC.  You can't explain to them that he possibly gets hit harder and more often than in every fight combined.

I think i want to see Mayweather rip him to shreds before finishing him off helpless hurt and unable to ever step foot in a ring again.

That might sound quite ruthless but I have had enough of idiots thinking he is God.

Mayweather needs to step on him early, hit him really hard.  Then play with him like cat and mouse hurting him enough to carry him into the next round.

But unless I some hoe win £20 somewhere I aint paying for it.  I will watch highlights on youtube the next day


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Boeing787 on August 23, 2017, 09:51:31 PM
Just a good scrap really.

I'm a big fan of both sports and I like the build up and hype behind fights so I'm intrigued to see the outcome.

Don't wish for either fighter get seriously hurt as per the above poster particularly after seeing some of things over the past couple of years like Nicky Blackwell and Joao Carvalho in MMA.

I'm interested to see if and it's big if Conor brings anything to the table with the size and youth advantage and also the different style, but my head says maywesther with his vast boxing experience and ring IQ.

Off to a casino in Manchester to watch it. Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: essemk on August 24, 2017, 09:33:11 AM
Can't possibly see Mayweather being beaten.
betfair odds are 1.81 Mayweather to win by KO TKO or DQ and 4.1 by Dec / Tech Dec

So £ 70 at 1.81 and £30 at 4.1 gives a profit of  £ 25.


Loads of liquidity so punt as much as you like if you think Mayweather can't lose.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on August 24, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
Can't possibly see Mayweather being beaten.
betfair odds are 1.81 Mayweather to win by KO TKO or DQ and 4.1 by Dec / Tech Dec

So £ 70 at 1.81 and £30 at 4.1 gives a profit of  £ 25.


Loads of liquidity so punt as much as you like if you think Mayweather can't lose.


Or.... Just back him to win at 1/4... No need for the convoluted approach.

I can see this going 12.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 24, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
Just been speaking to a mate I'm going to put £100 floyd and Connor both to touch the canvas floyd ud 33/1



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 24, 2017, 03:55:28 PM
Seen a Clev win is 7/2 on Sky Bet. I know Clev is far from the best in the division but I can't really think of when Jack put in a really impressive performance and this will be his first outing at 175.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 24, 2017, 06:02:20 PM
Mayweather is thorough in his prep he will have prepared for a fighter rush at him and showing wildly. Mcgregor wins and the damage to boxing won't be repairable stateside. I would expect Mayweather to stop him within four rounds.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 24, 2017, 06:22:05 PM
Can't see this going 12, no way. It's going to be an entertaining fight though.

Mcgregor is going to have that same worried look on his face as he did against Diaz at some point in the fight. As soon as Floyd sees it, hes going in for the kill. I'm guessing that'll be 5/6 rounds in.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 24, 2017, 07:07:54 PM
Mayweather is thorough in his prep he will have prepared for a fighter rush at him and showing wildly. Mcgregor wins and the damage to boxing won't be repairable stateside. I would expect Mayweather to stop him within four rounds.

6/1 on Sky Bet. I'm getting tempted.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: stinka on August 24, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
I can't believe that some of you guys are buying into the hype and thinking Connor can get a knockdown or even a ko from rushing him early on

I'm starting to question the logical outcome myself too, now  :P


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 24, 2017, 08:53:44 PM
At the end of the day, no matter how unthinkable the unthinkable may be, you just never know  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on August 25, 2017, 08:23:29 AM
I'm more concerned about a fix than Connor being able to beat Mayweather.

He's gonna get the shock of his life after Floyd finishes looking at him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 25, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
Paulie has been filmed at Mayweathers gym with Floyd bragging about putting him in conors camp as a spy.

He should be sacked by HBO. Taken off air for this fight at the very least.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 25, 2017, 11:16:01 AM
This could be a best bet.  A No Contest result.

With Mayweather receiving a foul of some kind retaliating etc etc.  The fight reaching such a state that it cannot be fought to the rules.

I think this could be a really possible result.  If this was to happen it would be obvious that this was a con trick from the start.

Still not paying for PPV but looking like wavering - Just being honest _ won't do it though


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 25, 2017, 01:21:04 PM
Paulie has been filmed at Mayweathers gym with Floyd bragging about putting him in conors camp as a spy.

He should be sacked by HBO. Taken off air for this fight at the very least.

Got a link. Paulie has looked like a complete mug through this fight build up. Hope he does take on McGregor next.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 25, 2017, 04:11:08 PM
Got a link. Paulie has looked like a complete mug through this fight build up. Hope he does take on McGregor next.

https://youtu.be/6i2k5d2coiU


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 25, 2017, 04:57:18 PM
Paulie has been filmed at Mayweathers gym with Floyd bragging about putting him in conors camp as a spy.

He should be sacked by HBO. Taken off air for this fight at the very least.

As if the deck wasn't stacked enough in Mayweather's favour that he also needs a 'spy' in McGregor's camp.

Hope McGregor does us all a favour and pulls off the unthinkable.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 25, 2017, 08:41:55 PM
Paulie has been filmed at Mayweathers gym with Floyd bragging about putting him in conors camp as a spy.

He should be sacked by HBO. Taken off air for this fight at the very least.

It's all bollox mate. He's fought the best boxers of the generation , yet feels the need to put a spy in camp for an amateur?
My take is this...
Mayweather has been asked to carry him all the way through 12,
Connor has been told of the plan and has been asked to upset it,
This turns in to an ingle fighter on his knees while Kidd take free swings.

If anyone really thinks this is real and Conor has any chance with the best of the last 40 years then boxing is a farce.
Can you imagine what canelo does to this kid?
Can you imagine what happens to canelo's hands in 2oz gloves, they would be shattered after 2 fight. Yet Conor host that hard he's never broke his hand in them cycling gloves??
It's a fix, anyone one that buys it has wasted cash.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mattbaker1510 on August 25, 2017, 09:29:25 PM
To be fair - boxers spend their life training to overcome the protection the gloves
Offer to their opponent.  Ufc fighter don't need to hit that hard to do damage.  You're right Canello would take someone's head off in UFC and then end up next to his opponent in hospital with two broken hands!


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 25, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
It's all bollox mate. He's fought the best boxers of the generation , yet feels the need to put a spy in camp for an amateur?
My take is this...
Mayweather has been asked to carry him all the way through 12,
Connor has been told of the plan and has been asked to upset it,
This turns in to an ingle fighter on his knees while Kidd take free swings.

If anyone really thinks this is real and Conor has any chance with the best of the last 40 years then boxing is a farce.
Can you imagine what canelo does to this kid?
Can you imagine what happens to canelo's hands in 2oz gloves, they would be shattered after 2 fight. Yet Conor host that hard he's never broke his hand in them cycling gloves??
It's a fix, anyone one that buys it has wasted cash.

Why would you need to fix such a one-sided fight... unless your suggesting that McGregor is going to win tomorrow - in which case people would want to pay to see that.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 25, 2017, 10:12:08 PM
Well that was cringe. Pretty sure they use spies to do recon and leak vital information....Paulie seems to think spying consists of being slapped around a ring all day and then crying about it for weeks after.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 25, 2017, 10:14:33 PM
It's all bollox mate. He's fought the best boxers of the generation , yet feels the need to put a spy in camp for an amateur?
My take is this...
Mayweather has been asked to carry him all the way through 12,
Connor has been told of the plan and has been asked to upset it,
This turns in to an ingle fighter on his knees while Kidd take free swings.

If anyone really thinks this is real and Conor has any chance with the best of the last 40 years then boxing is a farce.
Can you imagine what canelo does to this kid?
Can you imagine what happens to canelo's hands in 2oz gloves, they would be shattered after 2 fight. Yet Conor host that hard he's never broke his hand in them cycling gloves??
It's a fix, anyone one that buys it has wasted cash.
I've heard a few people shouting fix. I can't see it. Floyds Massive ego wants to end his career with a bang. Mcgregor looks awkward enough in a ring as it is. Any hint of this fight being fake while theyre in there will be obvious. I thought Floyds last press conference he showed genuine emotion. It's his last hurrah.

There has been alot of wwe pre fight but make no mistake it's a real fight and its going to be a war.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 25, 2017, 10:20:19 PM
mcgregor 153 Mayweather 149

Mcgregor showing way too much emotion. Looked on edge big time. Mayweather looked bloated to me.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 25, 2017, 10:32:18 PM
Why would you need to fix such a one-sided fight... unless your suggesting that McGregor is going to win tomorrow - in which case people would want to pay to see that.

The only way this is comoetitivve is by fix.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 25, 2017, 10:34:16 PM
mcgregor 153 Mayweather 149

Mcgregor showing way too much emotion. Looked on edge big time. Mayweather looked bloated to me.

Imagine the physique you must have had in the past - when people say you look bloated whilst sporting a six pack.

I cannot relate.  :)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 25, 2017, 10:38:50 PM
The only way this is comoetitivve is by fix.

Oh I see - if its a close fight then your saying it was rigged to be close and competitive.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 25, 2017, 11:01:21 PM
Imagine the physique you must have had in the past - when people say you look bloated whilst sporting a six pack.

I cannot relate.  :)
You never seen a bloated body builder with a 6 pack?



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 25, 2017, 11:04:01 PM
You never seen a bloated body builder with a 6 pack?



Those guys are bloated as a result of organ growth....you dont get that without being on dangerous amount of peds.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 25, 2017, 11:16:51 PM
Oh I see - if its a close fight then your saying it was rigged to be close and competitive.

Absolutely. To think otherwise you're a moron. A cretin, a fucktard, any amount of insults you can list.
Let me know if you need more, I have done really un-PC ones.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 25, 2017, 11:33:38 PM
Absolutely. To think otherwise you're a moron. A cretin, a fucktard, any amount of insults you can list.
Let me know if you need more, I have done really un-PC ones.

Pretty much like Mayweather v Canelo? A one sided fight but one judge with a pre determined scorecard no matter what happened. If there is any fixes in place for this one Jim then it's just like most other big weekends of boxing and people still watch those.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on August 25, 2017, 11:46:49 PM
mcgregor 153 Mayweather 149

Mcgregor showing way too much emotion. Looked on edge big time. Mayweather looked bloated to me.

You're just repeating what Conor said


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 26, 2017, 12:08:02 AM
As if the deck wasn't stacked enough in Mayweather's favour that he also needs a 'spy' in McGregor's camp.

Hope McGregor does us all a favour and pulls off the unthinkable.

I think it's just opportunistic mind games on the brink of the fight from Floyd if I'm honest...it didn't work out for Paulie in camp with Conor, so Floyd took advtange of the opportunity to make out like it was all now a planned out thing...I doubt they sat down and talked strategy together either


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 26, 2017, 07:26:00 AM
Absolutely. To think otherwise you're a moron. A cretin, a fucktard, any amount of insults you can list.
Let me know if you need more, I have done really un-PC ones.

But if mayweather gets KTFO... is it rigged then ?

Because that is the scenario that the majority of people tuning into this fight are paying to witness. That's what's bringing in all the money. In contrast I suspect a very small % are paying too see McGregor get knocked out as that is already expected.

I predict a shortish fight - stoppage win for Mayweather. Round 4.

Any predictions from you all ?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 26, 2017, 07:27:44 AM
Mayweather round 4 or round 6


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Boeing787 on August 26, 2017, 08:07:51 AM
I don't buy the 'fixed' idea. Yes this fight is all about money but at the end of the day this is a fight and both fighters want this, you could see the intensity of mcgregor at the weigh in.

Now that mayweathers finished bringing in the money to vegas if this is his last fight maybe the torch will be handed to mcgregor with a scripted victory...maybe that's the fix? Haha


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 26, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
But if mayweather gets KTFO... is it rigged then ?

Because that is the scenario that the majority of people tuning into this fight are paying to witness. That's what's bringing in all the money. In contrast I suspect a very small % are paying too see McGregor get knocked out as that is already expected.

I predict a shortish fight - stoppage win for Mayweather. Round 4.

Any predictions from you all ?

If it's competitive then mayweather carries him.
Under normal conditions a fighter of Conor's limited experience and ability would get stoped very quickly and made to look out of place. I don't believe the people behind this fight want that, they need to justify this event.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 26, 2017, 12:34:23 PM
Stop with the fixed shite already!!
These are probably the same people who were claiming Manny had an enlarged head because he was on PED's?  ;D //


Thats the most intense i've seen Conor at a weigh in. Floyd was all mouth until they came face to face. Didn't say a word.
Mcgregor looking a tad gaunt. He must have been carrying at least 5 pounds in his underwear alone....wtf was that? lol

Mayweather via brutal beat down. Paulie alluded in several interviews that conor struggles on the inside and reverts to holding. If Mcgregors going to survive then he's going to be doing alot more grappling than people are expecting him to.

Floyd gets Conor out of there in 7. I hope not but I can't see any other outcome.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: wbamitch on August 26, 2017, 01:35:53 PM
Damn, Mcgregor might be more annoying than Mayweather. The build up has certainly done its job both to the event fans and boxing fans as there has clearly been a lot of thought put into it with 32 pages on here. Mayweather did pretty well to deal with that performance in front of him at the weigh in, little surprised he came in so low. There have been a few along the way with both the decision to take the fight at light middle and the 8oz gloves. He looks pretty confident to me and I do actually believe that he is going to take the fight to Mcgregor.

I'm no expert on weight but the bloated call I don't get, Mcgregor looked horrible in the face, not the worst I have seen him but I hate seeing boxers looking skeletal up there. I'm sure he will look better tonight and there will be a considerable size difference still.

As I mentioned for a fight that got a lot of hate from fans it's certainly hogged the attention and put a few doubts in people's minds looking at just what possible advantages Mcgregor will have in there. The guy is clearly unorthodox but I don't see the Maidana blueprint as him, of course Maidana is unorthodox but very different. Both have the size on Floyd and throw a lot but Maidana got right on the chest, throwing over the top, looking to land anything. I've watched a bit of Mcgregor and he very much seems like someone who likes to pick his punches, an awkward rangy guy who might just get an effective distance on Floyd for a couple of rounds and cause him issues. He's a puncher but I'm just not so sure he is a ruthless puncher that Floyd hasn't faced before. I'm not ruling out him hurting Floyd, he's very much an unknown quantity and I do think Floyd won't adjust straight away.  After that..

The two year gap is not ideal but Floyd will have to have really lost it for him to not take this, surely, he'll be hitting Mcregor relatively early and I think following it up approaching the middle rounds, I gave up on Floyd stopping people a few fights back but I think he will get confidence in this fight which will see him bash Mcgregor up, stoppage in 6.

It would be a travesty for Boxing if Floyd loses this, it's really hard to see how, I don't get how a boxing fan wants Mcgregor to come in and win, he's not exactly a likeable guy but people have been tuning in to see Floyd lose for years.  I hope this is the last one and he can go out and dominate as he should, one last hurrah - I don't know if this will be the right expression after this, as I originally posted about this fight let's just get it over with.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 26, 2017, 05:01:55 PM
Just as a small side note to the whole event that hasn't been mentioned yet (as far as I'm aware anyway) Gervonta Davis lost his title on the scales after coming in 2lbs heavy. Not as though Davis has been training away from home so his surroundings are familiar, therefore totally unprofessional to miss the weight. Perhaps a sign that that camp as a whole has not taken the most meticulous approach to training for the fights on this card?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 26, 2017, 05:15:58 PM
Stop with the fixed shite already!!
These are probably the same people who were claiming Manny had an enlarged head because he was on PED's?  ;D //


Thats the most intense i've seen Conor at a weigh in. Floyd was all mouth until they came face to face. Didn't say a word.
Mcgregor looking a tad gaunt. He must have been carrying at least 5 pounds in his underwear alone....wtf was that? lol

Mayweather via brutal beat down. Paulie alluded in several interviews that conor struggles on the inside and reverts to holding. If Mcgregors going to survive then he's going to be doing alot more grappling than people are expecting him to.

Floyd gets Conor out of there in 7. I hope not but I can't see any other outcome.

You know what mate you're correct.
The same people that believe in this farce are the same ones who believed manny was clean.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 26, 2017, 06:23:21 PM
Just as a small side note to the whole event that hasn't been mentioned yet (as far as I'm aware anyway) Gervonta Davis lost his title on the scales after coming in 2lbs heavy. Not as though Davis has been training away from home so his surroundings are familiar, therefore totally unprofessional to miss the weight. Perhaps a sign that that camp as a whole has not taken the most meticulous approach to training for the fights on this card?

I doubt Mayweather really gives a toss about what Davis is up to really. He's just another Broner.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: chipper on August 26, 2017, 06:38:29 PM
Any one got a stream for please pm me thanks


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 26, 2017, 07:40:25 PM
You know what mate you're correct.
The same people that believe in this farce are the same ones who believed manny was clean.
But about that head size though??  ;D

Farce yes. Fix no. The only fight I can remember thinking 'fix' was when B-hop fought Oscar. Carried Oscar for 9 rounds and threw a nothing body shot. Neither had a mark on them at the end of the fight.


Looking back at the weigh-in, I think Conor clicked just how much out of his depth he really is.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: ChicagoFightFan on August 26, 2017, 09:54:33 PM
A few actually believed the Paulie spy thing was real? Complete wind up for the plebes. With hands against a boxer like Floyd, McGregor can't break a grape in a fruit fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: stinka on August 27, 2017, 03:41:41 AM
Fonseca ???! Wtf was that looool. Worst dive ive seen


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: stinka on August 27, 2017, 04:55:46 AM
Nuf respect man, no shame in that performance from Connor

Floyd looked a shadow of his former


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 27, 2017, 04:56:56 AM
Mayweather looked old tonight... a shadow of his former self.

Remain Retired now.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on August 27, 2017, 05:15:52 AM
Mayweather did nothing for about 4 rounds, his attitude was wrong but he was right in so much as McGregor did wear down. But he certainly didn't fight well, he was lacklustre and his tactics were a gamble. I had him 2-4 down after 6 rounds. Ultimately it was effective but not pretty. A mixture of age, attitude and McGregor fighting well. McGregor did a good job of having a very fluid gameplan and changing tacts and angles very well. He comes out of this with credit, Mayweather with the win. Both with plenty of money.

Now back to the real fights.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 27, 2017, 05:23:34 AM
Thought Conor did really well until he got fatigued but that had more to do with Floyd looking over the hill.

Neither disgraced themselves in there...... It was a fun exhibition match. Conor offered plenty. When he caught Floyd with that massive upper cut early on....

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Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 27, 2017, 05:24:49 AM
Mayweather did nothing for about 4 rounds, his attitude was wrong but he was right in so much as McGregor did wear down. But he certainly didn't fight well, he was lacklustre and his tactics were a gamble. I had him 2-4 down after 6 rounds. Ultimately it was effective but not pretty. A mixture of age, attitude and McGregor fighting well. McGregor did a good job of having a very fluid gameplan and changing tacts and angles very well. He comes out of this with credit, Mayweather with the win. Both with plenty of money.

Now back to the real fights.

Agree with this completely. People calling it a schooling are way off. It was purely a guy conditioned to go the distance against a guy that wasn't. Worst part for McGregor is Mayweather gambled on that being the case.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 27, 2017, 05:41:19 AM
Thought Conor did really well until he got fatigued but that had more to do with Floyd looking over the hill.

Neither disgraced themselves in there...... It was a fun exhibition match. Conor offered plenty. When he caught Floyd with that massive upper cut early on....

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Agreed...it was a fun fight...never should be seen in the boxing ring again, but Floyd can retire 50-0 and Conor can return to the Octagon


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 27, 2017, 06:45:45 AM
Carl frock is terrible

Cringeworthy in his assessment


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 27, 2017, 07:47:45 AM
I disagree with idea that Mayweather looked old.  He had no respect for mcgregor and just went about it totaly different.  He fought like a mexican fighter at 40.

He may have made it tight on the points because of the way he fought.  And I think he could have done it earlier but he dragged it out to make it worth they hype.

I am just sorry that mcgregor wasn't hurt a lot more, cut, bruised battered and totally ko'd.

This was not that shellacking that I wanted for the so called best mma fighter.  Maybe he will get it in his next fight lets see what it takes out of his confidence and physical ability.  That is should he need to ever fight again after that payout.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 27, 2017, 08:55:54 AM
Agreed...it was a fun fight...never should be seen in the boxing ring again, but Floyd can retire 50-0 and Conor can return to the Octagon
I doubt it will happen again unless Conor feels he can mix it at a lower level......Paulie *rubs hands in an evil fashion*
As far as MMA guys doing boxing? Let the boxers box and the MMA guys grapple and kick. 

I think it was more curiocity and the huge star that Conor is that secured this fight. It had to happen.
It's a once in a life time bout. Conor proved what we all thought....He's a great striker but not a great boxer but he did well.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on August 27, 2017, 09:52:34 AM
Thought the fight was garbage to be honest. People are going off on one about Conor lasting, lasting is all he managed against a guy that walked into him all night and used very little of the skills that make him the best to win.

Going off last night like many said, a lot less than Floyd would have dusted him and more aggressive guys a lot earlier.

A one sided domination, and in the end demolition.

It's done now anyway, on to next month and the real fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 27, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
I doubt it will happen again unless Conor feels he can mix it at a lower level......Paulie *rubs hands in an evil fashion*
As far as MMA guys doing boxing? Let the boxers box and the MMA guys grapple and kick. 

I think it was more curiocity and the huge star that Conor is that secured this fight. It had to happen.
It's a once in a life time bout. Conor proved what we all thought....He's a great striker but not a great boxer but he did well.

I'd bet Diaz would beat McGregor in the boxing ring. The guy just hasn't got the rounds in him.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on August 27, 2017, 11:15:21 AM
I'd bet Diaz would beat McGregor in the boxing ring. The guy just hasn't got the rounds in him.

I was amazed how tired Connor was so early last night, I'm sure by the average guys standards he's mega fit but only two rounds and he was done.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 27, 2017, 11:28:55 AM
I'd bet Diaz would beat McGregor in the boxing ring. The guy just hasn't got the rounds in him.

Agreed, anyone with a chin and decent cardio would give Conor problems based on the fact Conor is a gass-out artist. He was breathing heavy after just 6 rounds. I was impressed with some of Conors work but it counts for nothing if you can't last the distance. Especially at such a high level.

TBF both guys  go out winners in a way but You worry for Conor if he fights Diaz or anyone tough enough to take his shots and go the distance..


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 27, 2017, 11:36:59 AM
Anyone on here still crying fix?

Did Floyd carry the fight? or did he just take his time knowing Conor would gas in the middle rounds?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 27, 2017, 11:37:17 AM
Agreed, anyone with a chin and decent cardio would give Conor problems based on the fact Conor is a gass-out artist. He was breathing heavy after just 6 rounds. I was impressed with some of Conors work but it counts for nothing if you can't last the distance. Especially at such a high level.

TBF both guys  go out winners in a way but You worry for Conor if he fights Diaz or anyone tough enough to take his shots and go the distance..


I think that's the issue for many cage fighters....martial arts seem to be about ending a fight as quickly as possible and therefore most are not suited for long drawn out contests. I too thought Conor looked decent early on and his game plan would have made for a great fight had he the conditioning.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: tweetstreet on August 27, 2017, 12:53:21 PM
I was amazed how tired Connor was so early last night, I'm sure by the average guys standards he's mega fit but only two rounds and he was done.

Yeah his fitness is poor, I put it down to lack of roadwork. It should the bread and butter of any fighter really. Mcgregor says he doesn't do it because of knee issues but cycling just doesn't replicate the peaks and troughs of fighting imo.

Mayweather still does it and runs 5 and a half minute miles which is rapid, from triathlon training I have seen people say you can't get run fit from cycling so think it's the same in regards to fighting.

And Faulks i agree Froch is absolutely awful! He is literally on a job for the boys as he offers nothing inciteful to the action and he has no outside knowledge of the sport. At least someone like Paulie has an interest in the history of the sport and other fighters.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 27, 2017, 02:02:38 PM
I have watched more competitive fights in the gym. I thought Mayweather just turned up walked through McGregor and treated him with very little respect the only observation from the night was how much bigger McGregor was next to Floyd. I guess if you can make 300 million from 30 mins work you do the fight was over after the fourth round.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 27, 2017, 02:52:13 PM
Slightly different topic but Nathan Cleverly announced his retirement.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 27, 2017, 02:57:21 PM
Slightly different topic but Nathan Cleverly announced his retirement.

Good, shit fighter. Was painful watching him last night


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Bonters on August 28, 2017, 05:50:05 AM
Had no real interest in the fight as such, apart from the sheer spectacle aspect.  It might have served Floyd right if he got caught with a lucky shot early on and stopped but at the end of the day I'm relieved that Boxing won, rather than that other gay boy pseudo tough guy heap of shite.  There is so little to get really excited about in boxing these days that I guess this circus did no real harm.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on August 28, 2017, 11:07:22 AM
Mactards are even worse than Pactards.

Connor's goal was life-changing bread, fair play to him. But some followers still reckon he's the hardest guy on earth who'd win a rematch? I don't think they get Connor's goal here.

He did alright then was stopped by a non-puncher. It is what it is.

He was bad with the hammers on the back of Floyd's head though, lucky there.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 28, 2017, 11:35:07 AM
Anyone on here still crying fix?

Did Floyd carry the fight? or did he just take his time knowing Conor would gas in the middle rounds?

Of course he carried him mate, you must see that??
Do you think it took him 10 rds to work him out? Good grief.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 28, 2017, 12:23:17 PM
Anyone on here still crying fix?

Did Floyd carry the fight? or did he just take his time knowing Conor would gas in the middle rounds?

Also you must see now why it could only have been a fix for Conor to win?
He was so far out of his depth it was funny. No way in the world could he have won legitimately. He even showed the difference in power punching in both sports. Even 8oz gloves felt like pillows for him, no puncher wears 2oz gloves and doesn't mangle hands.
It was a spectacle and an event, it was never a series boxing match up and it was certainly never competitive in the slightest.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 28, 2017, 12:30:28 PM
Of course he carried him mate, you must see that??
Do you think it took him 10 rds to work him out? Good grief.

He didn't exactly work him out he just waited till he gassed. I don't think Floyd carried him but more then likely did what he always does and that's wait for the opportunity rather then risk getting caught trying to force a stoppage.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jaff_no1 on August 28, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
He didn't exactly work him out he just waited till he gassed. I don't think Floyd carried him but more then likely did what he always does and that's wait for the opportunity rather then risk getting caught trying to force a stoppage.
That's my assessment of it as well. I think Connor did ok first few rounds in all honesty and at least had a bit of a go. In my opinion I think he would beat Paulie if that fight happens (I know that isn't saying much)


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 28, 2017, 01:07:52 PM
That's my assessment of it as well. I think Connor did ok first few rounds in all honesty and at least had a bit of a go. In my opinion I think he would beat Paulie if that fight happens (I know that isn't saying much)

To me McGregor will struggle against anyone he can't stop on the first 2/3 rounds...Wether it be in a ring or cage.

Have to say he boxed pretty well when he was fresh....would give Paulie a right going over if he didn't gas. I'd bet any return to the ring would most certainly be in a 10 round fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 28, 2017, 01:23:42 PM
Alternatively Boxing fans could of tuned into Boxnation and witnessed an even bigger mismatch and one sided beat down that Cotto gave Kamegai.. a lot of boxing fans getting precious and defensive over something that happens every weekend in boxing. They could learn a lot from the MMA business model in terms of where the word mismatch really applies because when it comes down to it I see far worse mismatches week in week out in boxing including the past decade of the heavyweight division.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 28, 2017, 01:50:14 PM
Alternatively Boxing fans could of tuned into Boxnation and witnessed an even bigger mismatch and one sided beat down that Cotto gave Kamegai.. a lot of boxing fans getting precious and defensive over something that happens every weekend in boxing. They could learn a lot from the MMA business model in terms of where the word mismatch really applies because when it comes down to it I see far worse mismatches week in week out in boxing including the past decade of the heavyweight division.

Agree, I looked at the bookies odds for all the fights that night and McGregor wasn't even close to being the biggest underdog.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 28, 2017, 01:55:28 PM
That Cotto fight was a joke. Kamegai just ran head first into clean, full blooded shots for the full 12 rounds. It was almost unbelievable to watch a guy willingly take that much abuse to the face.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 28, 2017, 02:00:51 PM
Agree, I looked at the bookies odds for all the fights that night and McGregor wasn't even close to being the biggest underdog.

To be fair, McGregor should've been 100/1 but the bookies and people who know nothing about boxing bought into the hype.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 28, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
To be fair, McGregor should've been 100/1 but the bookies and people who know nothing about boxing bought into the hype.

He definitely should have been at better odds then 3/1 but let's be fair he clearly put up more of a fight then some of the pro boxers that night.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 28, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
To be fair, McGregor should've been 100/1 but the bookies and people who know nothing about boxing bought into the hype.

Fair play to them then as these people that know nothing about boxing got it right Kamegai was a bigger underdog than McGregor.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 28, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
Fair play to them then as these people that know nothing about boxing got it right Kamegai was a bigger underdog than McGregor.

I'm not sure about that. The odds were distorted because of all the mugs duped into betting on McGregor. Reality was that McGregor was always going to be stopped whereas Kamagai was always likely to be in there at the final bell.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 28, 2017, 03:35:06 PM
I'm not sure about that. The odds were distorted because of all the mugs duped into betting on McGregor. Reality was that McGregor was always going to be stopped whereas Kamagai was always likely to be in there at the final bell.

And who gave the better account of themselves? McGregor in his first ever boxing contest against a much better opponent or Kamegai a walking punch bag being hit at will by a has been in his 33rd?


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 28, 2017, 03:51:23 PM
I'm not sure about that. The odds were distorted because of all the mugs duped into betting on McGregor. Reality was that McGregor was always going to be stopped whereas Kamagai was always likely to be in there at the final bell.

McGregor didn't have the conditioning of Kamagai that's for sure. However he actually won some rounds unlike Kamagai. I'd say considering opposition McGregor put on just as good a fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 28, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
Both were poor spectacles. I'm not sure what Kamagai's game plan was as not really throwing punches and just eating shots was never going to get him far.  McGregor was pretty awful though.  So what that he lasted ten rounds with the worst FMJ to ever set foot in a pro ring? Kamagai was never going to quit, whereas McGregor seemed to decide he didn't want it anymore.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 28, 2017, 04:14:07 PM
Just seen a video on FB claiming that McGregor was pulling punches in the fight. That's how deluded some people are about what happened on Saturday.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 28, 2017, 05:25:00 PM
Just seen a video on FB claiming that McGregor was pulling punches in the fight. That's how deluded some people are about what happened on Saturday.

Plenty of delusion on both sides to be fair..

On one side you have the Neanderthals that thought all McGregor had to do was land a left hand and on the other side you have the boxing elitists acting like this kind of mismatch has no place in their sport, ignoring the fact that McGregor gave a better account of himself than the large majority of poor saps getting brutally turned over in so called 'world title fights' each weekend. Joseph Parker has just beaten up a taxi driver wow he looks great.. Golovkin has just decapitated an American novice wow he's unstoppable.. McGregor comes in with no previous professional boxing experience and wins 3 rounds off of one of the best to ever do it and it's a 'circus' and he's a clown. My word the hypocrisy and delusion is overflowing.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on August 28, 2017, 06:20:03 PM
The one really bug bear for me is ....

Floyd should not go in the octagon ..

Why??

He didn't ask for the fight it's a different sport .
If Connor had had a swim off v phelps or a 100mtr against bolt should they now get in the octagon.


Who gives a F*ck if floyd beat him, he doesn't need to go to the UFC to even the scores
.

Fans who bring this up need shooting


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 28, 2017, 07:14:38 PM
I watched the fight again earlier. Funny how a second look can affect your opinion.
I need to be fair to mcgregor he kept mayweather honest. Kept him on his toes and working pretty hard.
However it was more of a glorified exhibition than anything else.  If mcgregor had hit him with his best shot it would not have put mayweather down.
Also if I'm honest mayweather did go at it a little too keen. This made him look a little sloppy.
Overall though it certainly didn't live up to the hype. It was not a hard fight at Al.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 28, 2017, 07:16:36 PM
Alternatively Boxing fans could of tuned into Boxnation and witnessed an even bigger mismatch and one sided beat down that Cotto gave Kamegai.. a lot of boxing fans getting precious and defensive over something that happens every weekend in boxing. They could learn a lot from the MMA business model in terms of where the word mismatch really applies because when it comes down to it I see far worse mismatches week in week out in boxing including the past decade of the heavyweight division.

You see debut fighters going against one of the best of all time every week?
Nope you don't.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 28, 2017, 07:23:23 PM
I thought McGregors fight against Mayweather was far more exciting than Mayweather v Berto or Guerrero. So for that he should be applauded. He actually tried to win in that ring... where as some of mayweathers past opponents fought like they had zero pro fights too and was there to collect the cheque. Victor Ortiz was in awe of mayweather.

Its not Mcgregors fault that Mayweather is no longer the same guy that fought Gatti. Had he of been it would have ended brutally early on.

I think it was the perfect marketed big money pension fight that any boxer in their last pro fight could dream of. It was never going to be a Hagler v Leonard type retirement fight as Mayweather had met his star opposition in Manny.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 28, 2017, 08:16:04 PM
You see debut fighters going against one of the best of all time every week?
Nope you don't.

Hence the spectacle and the big money.

All that aside for elitist criticism it got it was better entertainment and more competitive than 3 quarters of the world title fight mismatches boxing fans are used to.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: bigbibbs on August 28, 2017, 08:59:13 PM
Now let's put this behind us and move on with the years real big fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 28, 2017, 11:29:05 PM
Now let's put this behind us and move on with the years real big fight.

Absolutely. Lord help us if GGG v Canelo ends up being a snooze fest.  ;D


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 29, 2017, 06:14:46 AM
Hence the spectacle and the big money.

All that aside for elitist criticism it got it was better entertainment and more competitive than 3 quarters of the world title fight mismatches boxing fans are used to.

It was never competitive mate. Not for 10 seconds... it was as competitive as hulk hogan v an un branded wrestler. The new kid might get a clothes line in andvdrop hogan, but the result is never in doubt. There was no competition.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 29, 2017, 09:03:15 AM
It was never competitive mate. Not for 10 seconds... it was as competitive as hulk hogan v an un branded wrestler. The new kid might get a clothes line in andvdrop hogan, but the result is never in doubt. There was no competition.

You've just described a good majority of boxings current world title fights. Yet you've chosen this fight to speak out against it? Despite it being more competitive than the Jack v Clev 'world title fight' before it and the Cotto v Kamegai 'world title fight' on the other channel.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 29, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
There is a big difference though.  On paper, Clev v Jack was a competitive fight, Mayweather v McGregor wasn't.  There are some mismatched World title fights but to say the majority are is off the mark.

You may as well say the same for the UFC because of McGregor v Aldo.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 29, 2017, 09:56:38 AM
There is a big difference though.  On paper, Clev v Jack was a competitive fight, Mayweather v McGregor wasn't.  There are some mismatched World title fights but to say the majority are is off the mark.

You may as well say the same for the UFC because of McGregor v Aldo.

No I'd say I'm pretty on the mark. Just as many lopsided odds world title fights in boxing or pre determined ones as there are competitive ones.

Certainly more than enough for the elite boxing fans to be talking out of their arse when they complain about the competitiveness of Saturdays big fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 29, 2017, 10:23:39 AM
With Canelo v GGG, the Super-Fly card and both World Series of Boxing tournaments starting I'd say there are plenty of competitive match-ups in the very near future.

The odd bad or uncompetitive world title fight doesn't validate Mayweather v McGregor or improve McGregor's competitiveness in the fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 29, 2017, 11:16:10 AM
With Canelo v GGG, the Super-Fly card and both World Series of Boxing tournaments starting I'd say there are plenty of competitive match-ups in the very near future.

The odd bad or uncompetitive world title fight doesn't validate Mayweather v McGregor or improve McGregor's competitiveness in the fight.

Canelo v GGG which took years of mismatches and catchweights to finally put together and the World Series of boxing tournament which I can now predict all 8 semi finalists already.. great examples 👍


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 29, 2017, 11:59:20 AM
So because of what went before GGG v Canelo isn't a competitive fight?  And you can make a prediction which may or may not be accurate so the WSSB match-ups aren't either.  At least you didn't bother trying to twist the Super-Fly card to suit your narrative.

Maybe if McGregor had fought Khabib on Saturday night we'd have seen him in a competitive fight but he didn't so we didn't.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 29, 2017, 12:27:46 PM
So because of what went before GGG v Canelo isn't a competitive fight?  And you can make a prediction which may or may not be accurate so the WSSB match-ups aren't either.  At least you didn't bother trying to twist the Super-Fly card to suit your narrative.

Maybe if McGregor had fought Khabib on Saturday night we'd have seen him in a competitive fight but he didn't so we didn't.

GGG v Canelo is a competitive fight but the years of BS it took to make it happen is far more of a circus than what we witnessed on Saturday.

I can accurately predict all 8 semi finalists now barring injuries, that doesn't scream competitiveness to me..

Your losing sight of what my argument is. McGregor and saturdays event are being criticised by boxing snobs yet it was more competitive and entertaining than a good portion of the sports actual world title competition if you can call it that..


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on August 29, 2017, 12:47:06 PM
GGG v Canelo did take too long to get made but now since it has been signed it has been down to business and it is certainly no circus.

Even if you did predict the outcomes correctly, it doesn't necessitate that they are uncompetitive bouts.  In the Cruiser edition has the majority of top fighters in the division in it and is going to produce a unified champion at its conclusion.  Every single match-up is decent on paper and they will get better as the tournament progresses.

I haven't lost sight of your argument but Saturday's fight wasn't competitive nor particularly entertaining.  People want to believe it was to make them feel better about thinking McGregor could win and spending £20 for the privilege to find out he couldn't.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 29, 2017, 01:15:03 PM
GGG v Canelo did take too long to get made but now since it has been signed it has been down to business and it is certainly no circus.

Even if you did predict the outcomes correctly, it doesn't necessitate that they are uncompetitive bouts.  In the Cruiser edition has the majority of top fighters in the division in it and is going to produce a unified champion at its conclusion.  Every single match-up is decent on paper and they will get better as the tournament progresses.

I haven't lost sight of your argument but Saturday's fight wasn't competitive nor particularly entertaining.  People want to believe it was to make them feel better about thinking McGregor could win and spending £20 for the privilege to find out he couldn't.

I didn't think Conor could win nor did I have to pay for the event as I watched at a friends house, so what exactly do I need to feel better about?

I've seen a lot of boxing apologists and elitists criticise the fight and their criticisms for the fight describes a good portion of Boxings so called top level, world championship competition. McGregor did well early in the fight a lot better than most knowledgable fans thought he could. So you can deny it wasn't competitive in slightest and you can argue that boxing actually does have a competitive world title fight every couple of months and that's fine but what you can't argue against is the hypocrisy involved in my above observations.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 29, 2017, 03:28:18 PM
With Canelo v GGG, the Super-Fly card and both World Series of Boxing tournaments starting I'd say there are plenty of competitive match-ups in the very near future.

The odd bad or uncompetitive world title fight doesn't validate Mayweather v McGregor or improve McGregor's competitiveness in the fight.

Not to sure about that. https://m.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/#!sport?sportId=9&tab=competition

Look at the odds on some of these fights. Huck 8/1, Campbell 3/1, Skoglund 7/1, Monroe jr 9/4, Yildirim 7/2, Cox 4/1, Pulev 9/1

Pretty grim reading tbh.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 29, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Not to sure about that. https://m.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/#!sport?sportId=9&tab=competition

Look at the odds on some of these fights. Huck 8/1, Campbell 3/1, Skoglund 7/1, Monroe jr 9/4, Yildirim 7/2, Cox 4/1, Pulev 9/1

Pretty grim reading tbh.

Yet how dare some bigshot from MMA try to kill the sport of boxing by coming in and performing better than half of the above names will in his first try.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on August 29, 2017, 04:21:31 PM
You've just described a good majority of boxings current world title fights. Yet you've chosen this fight to speak out against it? Despite it being more competitive than the Jack v Clev 'world title fight' before it and the Cotto v Kamegai 'world title fight' on the other channel.

4 pro boxers in those fights though mate, hence makes it more competitive.
The fact they ended up one sided is neither here nor there, they were competed by pro boxers.
The mayweather fight was just an exhibition that lasted as long as food wanted it to, the other fights were not decided in such a cynical fashion.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on August 29, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
4 pro boxers in those fights though mate, hence makes it more competitive.
The fact they ended up one sided is neither here nor there, they were competed by pro boxers.
The mayweather fight was just an exhibition that lasted as long as food wanted it to, the other fights were not decided in such a cynical fashion.


3 fights Saturday night, 3 fighters, all at 3/1 to win Clev, McGregor and Kamegai which leads to a few pertinent questions.. who won the most rounds out of all 3? Conor. Who had the best opponent out of all 3? Conor. Who landed the most punches out of all 3? Conor. Whose never done this before out of all 3? If I had no prior knowledge of any of them or their backgrounds and watched all 3 fights I'd have gone for Clev.

if there's anything in boxing from Saturday to be embarrassed about Conor's first time effort against the best isn't it.



Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 29, 2017, 05:35:13 PM
VETERAN PRO BOXER Allan Green (comments on the May-Mac fight)

Ok, about the fight. For people who dont understand boxing. What you saw was a 29 year old fighter who outweighed a 40 year old who hadnt fought in 2 years by about 20 pounds get walked through. What Floyd did was simple, he walked him down with a high guard, barley through any punches the first 3 rounds. He played chess with the young man. Connor didnt know any better and just kept throwing punches at Floyds guard which cast the illusion that he was doing well. Granted he landed some but guess what? He was never in the fight, the way Floyd did him was the way most pros spar with amateurs. We play with them, let them do their thing, smile at them (which Floyd did) and keep walking them down because we already know where its going. Connor just kept throwing punches and Floyd kept coming forward. Around the 5th round it turned into Connor throwing punches to keep Floyd off of him as opposed to initiating offense. As any boxer knows, when you start doing that its the beginning of the end. Connor didnt run out of gas, thats not how it works. Floyd ran him out of gas, Floyd drained him. By walking him down, touching his body and blocking his punches. He wanted to show Connor that he didnt have power by boxing standards. He got drained, he couldnt hurt Floyd, and eventually got walked through like wet paper. But people say Floyd was supposed to be the runner. Connor was the only one trying to stay away from Floyd. The pressure was too much for him. Thats why everytime Floyd got close he would grab Floyd hold on for dear life like a kid hugging his father. He had moments because Floyd allowed him to but ultimately ended up getting mauled. Battered helplessly on the ropes. Again, he didnt run out of gas. Floyd drained him. We're all grown here, so lets not start the retarded "Floyd should come to the Octagon now" stop. Floyd is 40, was retired, Connor talked himself into an ass whoopin and he got it. No one was saying Toney should fight Couture in a boxing match. Hell, Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia in the Octagon and Ray Mercer has loss in the Octagon. Its combat sports, it happens. So if you thought Connor had a chance of winning, slap yourself right now and you arent allowed to talk about fighting for at least a month. This is chess not checkers.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 29, 2017, 06:15:53 PM
No one is disputing that Conor was ever going to beat Mayweather but what kind of idiot gave Celeverly a chance v Jack or Kamagai a chance v Cotto. All fights were foregone conclusions and the only one with any question marks was the McGrgeor fight as he was an u known quantity. Mayweather lost the early rounds for two reasons...one he gambled on McGregor gassing and two he had no idea what McGregor had to offer. Mayweather doesn't take chances and that's why he's so successful.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: unknown on August 29, 2017, 07:35:52 PM
VETERAN PRO BOXER Allan Green (comments on the May-Mac fight)

Ok, about the fight. For people who dont understand boxing. What you saw was a 29 year old fighter who outweighed a 40 year old who hadnt fought in 2 years by about 20 pounds get walked through. What Floyd did was simple, he walked him down with a high guard, barley through any punches the first 3 rounds. He played chess with the young man. Connor didnt know any better and just kept throwing punches at Floyds guard which cast the illusion that he was doing well. Granted he landed some but guess what? He was never in the fight, the way Floyd did him was the way most pros spar with amateurs. We play with them, let them do their thing, smile at them (which Floyd did) and keep walking them down because we already know where its going. Connor just kept throwing punches and Floyd kept coming forward. Around the 5th round it turned into Connor throwing punches to keep Floyd off of him as opposed to initiating offense. As any boxer knows, when you start doing that its the beginning of the end. Connor didnt run out of gas, thats not how it works. Floyd ran him out of gas, Floyd drained him. By walking him down, touching his body and blocking his punches. He wanted to show Connor that he didnt have power by boxing standards. He got drained, he couldnt hurt Floyd, and eventually got walked through like wet paper. But people say Floyd was supposed to be the runner. Connor was the only one trying to stay away from Floyd. The pressure was too much for him. Thats why everytime Floyd got close he would grab Floyd hold on for dear life like a kid hugging his father. He had moments because Floyd allowed him to but ultimately ended up getting mauled. Battered helplessly on the ropes. Again, he didnt run out of gas. Floyd drained him. We're all grown here, so lets not start the retarded "Floyd should come to the Octagon now" stop. Floyd is 40, was retired, Connor talked himself into an ass whoopin and he got it. No one was saying Toney should fight Couture in a boxing match. Hell, Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia in the Octagon and Ray Mercer has loss in the Octagon. Its combat sports, it happens. So if you thought Connor had a chance of winning, slap yourself right now and you arent allowed to talk about fighting for at least a month. This is chess not checkers.



He is all but correct but on one important, very important point.


Connor ended Mayweather in the 9th with a vicious right to the body, and it took a fixed ref to save Money from getting completely KTFO in the corner.


It is what it is, it was a body shot and Mayweather had to cheat his way out of it with a fix ref no?


To me that raises a tidy little question mark over the result, not huge but it is what it is, Connor folded Mayweather in half with a legal shot and the fight was interrupted, incorrectly.


Fight is just a touch void imo.




 




Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on August 29, 2017, 08:57:00 PM

He is all but correct but on one important, very important point.


Connor ended Mayweather in the 9th with a vicious right to the body, and it took a fixed ref to save Money from getting completely KTFO in the corner.


It is what it is, it was a body shot and Mayweather had to cheat his way out of it with a fix ref no?


To me that raises a tidy little question mark over the result, not huge but it is what it is, Connor folded Mayweather in half with a legal shot and the fight was interrupted, incorrectly.


Fight is just a touch void imo.



Watch it again....the shot was clearly low, and with or without the referee's intervention Mayweather was never in any danger of getting KTFO. McGregor won some rounds but he was never a danger to win the actual fight. Mayweather toyed with Connor when all is said and done....as of course he should have done.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on August 29, 2017, 10:56:34 PM
I had McGregor up 4 or 5 rounds going into round 6.

It was unlike Mayweather to give away rounds usually its the total opposite.

Yet despite that being his tactic to have McGregor punch himself out...  The corruption came from the Judges scoring these very rounds to mayweather - without actually throwing any punches. Pretty disgusting.

Boxing officials cannot be seen to give boxing rounds to an MMA guy. Very biased... very petty.

The ref telling Mcgregor the rules in the ring - when he had plenty of time to do it before was totally over-the-top and cringe worthy too.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 30, 2017, 05:50:44 AM
Watch it again....the shot was clearly low, and with or without the referee's intervention Mayweather was never in any danger of getting KTFO. McGregor won some rounds but he was never a danger to win the actual fight. Mayweather toyed with Connor when all is said and done....as of course he should have done.

At first, I thought the shot was clearly low...however, when I watched the fight back, it looks to me that the shot hit Floyd at the belt line, and if you see the ref's instructions before the fight, he said that shots on the belt were GOOD...I dunno, maybe Floyd's belt dropped during the fight (i.e. the effect of sweat etc), but I think it's at least open to debate as to whether the shot was good or not...I'm not saying Conor would have stopped Floyd because i think Floyd would have found a way to recover even without the ref saying it was low, but it clearly did effect him...


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 30, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
At first, I thought the shot was clearly low...however, when I watched the fight back, it looks to me that the shot hit Floyd at the belt line, and if you see the ref's instructions before the fight, he said that shots on the belt were GOOD...I dunno, maybe Floyd's belt dropped during the fight (i.e. the effect of sweat etc), but I think it's at least open to debate as to whether the shot was good or not...I'm not saying Conor would have stopped Floyd because i think Floyd would have found a way to recover even without the ref saying it was low, but it clearly did effect him...

Agree with this, don't think Floyd was in that much trouble mind as he seemed fine once the action continued.

Can't see why so many people are going on like McGrgeor was played with etc. He just didn't have the conditioning to compete over the distance. He did no better or worse then several top guys that have faced Mayweather.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 30, 2017, 12:48:29 PM
Watch it again....the shot was clearly low, and with or without the referee's intervention Mayweather was never in any danger of getting KTFO. McGregor won some rounds but he was never a danger to win the actual fight. Mayweather toyed with Connor when all is said and done....as of course he should have done.
He caught Floyd on the belt. Nothing low about it if you listen to the refs instructions before the fight. Was Floyd genuinely hurt by it? Or was he playing to the ref? Who knows.

In the end it was mcgregor's lack of cardio, inexperience, in inability to fight off the back foot and lack of power (technique)that lost him the fight.
If Mcgregor had a proper boxing trainer he could have corrected most of those things. Hit the f***ing road jack, study the technique of great inside fighters, and get a decent trainer to show him how to leverage his punches and throw them correctly. Alot of those punches, especially on the inside were arm punches. Floyd didn't respect Conors power and waited for him to gas out.

Having watched the fight again I still think Mcgregor did really well. He surprised alot of people. But with those corrections in place he could have done so much better. He was trained by complete novices for christ sake. Novices that Paulie called cheerleaders.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: cowboy55 on August 30, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
Gee a body shot to Mayweather?seems to me that's not the first time a ref has "stepped" in and ended close in/body shots.Just ask Ricky.He hit numbnutz with a vicious left in the second that could have been the start of something if "I'm fair but I'm square"Cortez hadn't meddled


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on August 30, 2017, 01:07:47 PM
He caught Floyd on the belt. Nothing low about it if you listen to the refs instructions before the fight. Was Floyd genuinely hurt by it? Or was he playing to the ref? Who knows.

In the end it was mcgregor's lack of cardio, inexperience, in inability to fight off the back foot and lack of power (technique)that lost him the fight.
If Mcgregor had a proper boxing trainer he could have corrected most of those things. Hit the f***ing road jack, study the technique of great inside fighters, and get a decent trainer to show him how to leverage his punches and throw them correctly. Alot of those punches, especially on the inside were arm punches. Floyd didn't respect Conors power and waited for him to gas out.

Having watched the fight again I still think Mcgregor did really well. He surprised alot of people. But with those corrections in place he could have done so much better. He was trained by complete novices for christ sake. Novices that Paulie called cheerleaders.

I'm of the opinion that McGregor would have put up a relatively close fight had he the conditioning. I gave him 4 rounds out of the 10.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: mooreman on August 30, 2017, 07:30:31 PM
Mcgregor wasn't fit enough. End of.. Didn't compete because he didn't deserve to. He looked great in the first because he wasn't thinking like a boxer. He never stood a chance and quite likely didn't give a shite either.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on August 30, 2017, 07:38:56 PM
I'm of the opinion that McGregor would have put up a relatively close fight had he the conditioning. I gave him 4 rounds out of the 10.
Exactly, and theres nothing scientific about it either. He doesn't need science telling him whats what. Back in the day when they were all doing 15 rounders, even the heavyweights. It didn't cost them nothing extra either. A pair of trainers and a very long road will take care of his cardio. Id say stay the hell away from Diaz until he hits the road and gets his cardio right. He'll get out lasted by Nate otherwise. Diaz isn't worthy of being a belt holder. He's a borderline journey man.

On another note..... PPV figures were smashed. 6.5 million buys.  :o


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: wbamitch on August 30, 2017, 08:19:45 PM
It wasn't that bad, I enjoyed seen Mcgregor getting stopped. Mcgregor had me a bit taken aback the first couple of rounds, of course the size difference was glaring but I thought he had Mayweather's number for a little while, this version of Mayweather anyway. He looked slow and certainly not the same fighter of even a few years back, I expected Mcgregor to be awkward and give him a few problems but this was more than I expected. Mayweather finally got some work off and then Mcgregor's conditioning, wow, that really sealed the deal. I heard it was questionable but my god I have never seen anything like it, Mayweather's not exactly an active high pace guy and he had barely passed the doing nothing stage.

McGregor was visibly breathing heavy after 4 and you knew he was in big trouble after that, Mayweather landed some nice body shots, how much affect they had on an already draining Mcgregor I don't know. It wasn't a smooth performance by Floyd but he did what he had to do and basically walked Mcgregor down, he was still accurate enough although again nowhere near vintage, although how many times do we so Floyd go for a victory in that method. Mcgregor summed it up well post fight in that Floyd was very composed, he knew he had his man and in the end the levels showed. You certainly do worry for Mcgregor if he continues to go past the first couple of rounds in fights.

Hopefully Mayweather sticks to retirement now, he needs to. I would have liked to seen him put Mcgregor to the floor which I think was very close but I did also say at the time it's getting dangerous so maybe I had a bit of compassion for him. Clearly not vintage Floyd but I enjoyed seeing the old man still put a beating on Mcgregor.

Now moving on to serious boxing..


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: GOD on August 30, 2017, 08:39:56 PM
It wasn't that bad, I enjoyed seen Mcgregor getting stopped. Mcgregor had me a bit taken aback the first couple of rounds, of course the size difference was glaring but I thought he had Mayweather's number for a little while, this version of Mayweather anyway. He looked slow and certainly not the same fighter of even a few years back, I expected Mcgregor to be awkward and give him a few problems but this was more than I expected. Mayweather finally got some work off and then Mcgregor's conditioning, wow, that really sealed the deal. I heard it was questionable but my god I have never seen anything like it, Mayweather's not exactly an active high pace guy and he had barely passed the doing nothing stage.

McGregor was visibly breathing heavy after 4 and you knew he was in big trouble after that, Mayweather landed some nice body shots, how much affect they had on an already draining Mcgregor I don't know. It wasn't a smooth performance by Floyd but he did what he had to do and basically walked Mcgregor down, he was still accurate enough although again nowhere near vintage, although how many times do we so Floyd go for a victory in that method. Mcgregor summed it up well post fight in that Floyd was very composed, he knew he had his man and in the end the levels showed. You certainly do worry for Mcgregor if he continues to go past the first couple of rounds in fights.

Hopefully Mayweather sticks to retirement now, he needs to. I would have liked to seen him put Mcgregor to the floor which I think was very close but I did also say at the time it's getting dangerous so maybe I had a bit of compassion for him. Clearly not vintage Floyd but I enjoyed seeing the old man still put a beating on Mcgregor.

Now moving on to serious boxing..

Mayweather said he stopped sparring a month before the fight due to hand problems, which would have affected his timing in the fight...even having said that, I do agree that he looked old in there...fight was a win/win in the end though...It was a fun fight, Floyd kept his unbeaten record, boxing got the win, MMA raised it's profile, and McGregor got kudos for going rounds with Floyd


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Red on August 31, 2017, 09:13:59 AM
I read a report that the ringside physician was concerned at the fact that his balance had gone and his legs were jelly.

Tiredness doesn't do that to balance, but ataxia from temp. brain trauma.

Boxers are dying on a regular basis due to it. Whereas UFC might see more blood, the shaking of the brain inside the skull from headshots is less evident.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on August 31, 2017, 09:56:13 AM
I could understand that if he'd taken sustained clean punishment to the head but I didn't see anywhere near enough of that from Mayweather throughout the fight to cause such dramatic decline in conditioning from McGregor. I know Flyd got to McGregor by the 7th round onwards but he has dished out far worse beatings in the past and not had the same caution shown to his opponent by ringside docs.

Maybe my judgement is slightly clouded by having only minutes before that fight watched Kamegai run headfirst in Cotto's punches for 12 rounds without losing his equilibrium at all. Didn't seem to be much concern shown for his welfare either.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on September 07, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
I watched it again last night and it doesn't get any better.  I think McGregor's team should be ashamed of themselves.  He had no cardio, feet like he was on a Playstation dance mat and zero technique in his punches.  After a couple of rounds his shots were making Malignaggi look like Julian Jackson.  Relying on punch stats to say he did well is embarrassing, he was swatting flies in between running and looking to hold.

Seeing Theophane in the dressing room when asked if Floyd had taken the fight seriously said it all.  He knew all he had to do was not trip over on his ring walk and the fight was in the bag.   


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on September 07, 2017, 07:00:24 PM
I watched it again last night and it doesn't get any better.  I think McGregor's team should be ashamed of themselves.  He had no cardio, feet like he was on a Playstation dance mat and zero technique in his punches.  After a couple of rounds his shots were making Malignaggi look like Julian Jackson.  Relying on punch stats to say he did well is embarrassing, he was swatting flies in between running and looking to hold.

Seeing Theophane in the dressing room when asked if Floyd had taken the fight seriously said it all.  He knew all he had to do was not trip over on his ring walk and the fight was in the bag.  

Lands more punches on Mayweather than Pacquiao in his first ever boxing contest yet he should be "ashamed".

Enjoy your super series tournament opener this weekend.. first fight up Usyk 1/100 to beat Huck. Thank goodness the circus is out the way with and we can get back to the "real" contests.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on September 07, 2017, 08:09:43 PM
McGregor did not employ the best people to get him in condition to compete for 12 rounds.
Call it arrogance/stupidy/misguided loyalty.....take your pick.

He should have hired a proper proven boxing coach, who'd also come with his preferred strength and conditioning coach. At least he'd have been fit for 12 rounds as opposed to blowing out of his arse after just a few relatively slow paced rounds. Anyone with a brain knew he was obviously totally outgunned and unprepared boxing ability wise. But that's no excuse for his conditioning which was f'kin w*nk in all fairness, and it was humiliating for him. Those yes men receiving money to get him fight fit should feel ashamed!


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The Hurricane on September 07, 2017, 09:17:11 PM
Lands more punches on Mayweather than Pacquiao in his first ever boxing contest yet he should be "ashamed".

Enjoy your super series tournament opener this weekend.. first fight up Usyk 1/100 to beat Huck. Thank goodness the circus is out the way with and we can get back to the "real" contests.

Where did I say McGregor should be ashamed?

Punch stats mean nothing, its people pressing buttons because Americans can't do sports without 'stats' even if they are meaningless. Most of them couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding and Floyd was stood there because he knew Conor couldn't hurt him whereas Manny could have.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on September 07, 2017, 09:41:15 PM
How are people still talking about this? Baffling.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on September 07, 2017, 10:15:43 PM
I watched it again last night and it doesn't get any better.  I think McGregor's team should be ashamed of themselves.  He had no cardio, feet like he was on a Playstation dance mat and zero technique in his punches.  After a couple of rounds his shots were making Malignaggi look like Julian Jackson.  Relying on punch stats to say he did well is embarrassing, he was swatting flies in between running and looking to hold.

Seeing Theophane in the dressing room when asked if Floyd had taken the fight seriously said it all.  He knew all he had to do was not trip over on his ring walk and the fight was in the bag.   

You watched it more than once? You must have been very bored, it was extremely dull and uneventful.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on September 08, 2017, 09:53:37 AM
McGregor did not employ the best people to get him in condition to compete for 12 rounds.
Call it arrogance/stupidy/misguided loyalty.....take your pick.

He should have hired a proper proven boxing coach, who'd also come with his preferred strength and conditioning coach. At least he'd have been fit for 12 rounds as opposed to blowing out of his arse after just a few relatively slow paced rounds. Anyone with a brain knew he was obviously totally outgunned and unprepared boxing ability wise. But that's no excuse for his conditioning which was f'kin w*nk in all fairness, and it was humiliating for him. Those yes men receiving money to get him fight fit should feel ashamed!

Good post, completely agree. Mcgregor was essentially trained by a bunch of boxing novices. It's embarrassing when u think about it. Oh and he was using Artem as one of the main sparring partners. // .
Think it was a combination of arrogance, loyalty & a massive ego. I don't think conor wanted to face adversity in sparring or to be told he was wrong by an authority figure he doesn't know. That would have been too much for his massive ego to take. They went about that train camp the wrong way. Bunch of amateurs.
Conor had the ability to make that fight way more interesting than it was had he done the right things in training and brought in the right people. 

Where does his career go from here? A guy that's not willing to look at himself in the mirror and face reality, who thinks he's above most things and is trained by amateur yes men. It can only go one way.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Faulks on September 08, 2017, 10:18:40 AM
You watched it more than once? You must have been very bored, it was extremely dull and uneventful.

I didn't mind it, As a boxing spectacle is was boring but it proved beyond doubt which the majority of us know that boxing/mma are different sports. (rugby/football different)

The conditioning was appalling, but that was to be expected with the way MMA fighters are. 'IF' he'd been fighting an Alvarez he would of been flattened within 3. I got duped into thinking Floyd would finish it before he could but in true floyd style he waited until he could barley stand then went for the kill. When I say Floyd style I mean he was never going to take too many risks.

Kudas to the Irish MMA fighter for making the cash he has. Lets crack on with supporting our chosen sports, I dont follow both but good luck to those who do.

I'll get back to boxing now but 'if' this fight hadnt of been happening then we wouldn't of had a right lot to read/comment on lately  ;D So look at the positive 

   


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Scarface on September 08, 2017, 11:35:27 AM
As a fantasy fight I think the fight more than delivered.

1) A 170lb MMA fighter facing a 142lb Boxer in 8oz Gloves.

2) Mayweather - coming out in a Balaclava indicating that he was about to commit a bank robbery.

3) McGregor despite landing numerous illegal hammer fists on Mayweather and Mayweathers composed reaction.

4) McGregor landing a couple of meaningful Uppercuts and Overhand Rights flush on the Granite Chin of a 40 year old Mayweather.

5) The spectacle of Mayweather literally walking down a fighter known for his Standup MMA reputation.

Pound for pound it was a lamb to the slaughter... Much like Mayweather v Canelo. Lighter, Smaller and Older yet still batters both fighters. I enjoyed it and it was free. No Complaints.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: AO88 on September 08, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
I didn't mind it, As a boxing spectacle is was boring but it proved beyond doubt which the majority of us know that boxing/mma are different sports. (rugby/football different)

The conditioning was appalling, but that was to be expected with the way MMA fighters are. 'IF' he'd been fighting an Alvarez he would of been flattened within 3. I got duped into thinking Floyd would finish it before he could but in true floyd style he waited until he could barley stand then went for the kill. When I say Floyd style I mean he was never going to take too many risks.

Kudas to the Irish MMA fighter for making the cash he has. Lets crack on with supporting our chosen sports, I dont follow both but good luck to those who do.

I'll get back to boxing now but 'if' this fight hadnt of been happening then we wouldn't of had a right lot to read/comment on lately  ;D So look at the positive 

   

I fell for that too, I'd backed Floyd over a number of rounds and won sod all.

On the bright side, Alvarez vs Golovkin is only a week away.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on September 08, 2017, 04:15:59 PM


3) McGregor despite landing numerous illegal hammer fists on Mayweather and Mayweathers composed reaction.
 

One thing more annoying than Mcgregors cardio is the bias view that it was all Mcgregor doing the the illegal stuff. How many forarms and elbows did Mayweather thrust into Mcgregors face and neck in the clinch?? They caused way more damage than Conors pitta patt pillow fists.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tuco on September 08, 2017, 04:23:15 PM
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Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on September 08, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
Lands more punches on Mayweather than Pacquiao in his first ever boxing contest yet he should be "ashamed".

Enjoy your super series tournament opener this weekend.. first fight up Usyk 1/100 to beat Huck. Thank goodness the circus is out the way with and we can get back to the "real" contests.

That says it all though mate.
The fact that mayweather let him hit him shows the massive gulf between them.
If you think for a second those shots that he threw would have landed if floyd didn't know he had zero power and zero chance of hurting him, then you're mad.
The whole thing was awful.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: The_Answer on September 08, 2017, 08:40:53 PM
That says it all though mate.
The fact that mayweather let him hit him shows the massive gulf between them.
If you think for a second those shots that he threw would have landed if floyd didn't know he had zero power and zero chance of hurting him, then you're mad.
The whole thing was awful.

Massive gulf between one of the greatest boxers of all time and a first timer? Yes I would hope so.

I realise now on this thread I'm always going to fall on deaf ears when to predominantly boxing fans McGregor was seen as some kind of alien invader. Every punch he slipped was because he was allowed to slip it, every punch he landed he was allowed to land it, everything he did was awful, he has no power, zero technique and apparently he even trod on some baby birds on the way to the arena..

The impartial unbiased review of course is that in his first professional boxing contest against the best this generation has to offer he did much better than any knowledgeable fan thought he was capable of, certainly much better than two other so called world title contenders that night.







Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on September 08, 2017, 10:24:38 PM
Massive gulf between one of the greatest boxers of all time and a first timer? Yes I would hope so.

I realise now on this thread I'm always going to fall on deaf ears when to predominantly boxing fans McGregor was seen as some kind of alien invader. Every punch he slipped was because he was allowed to slip it, every punch he landed he was allowed to land it, everything he did was awful, he has no power, zero technique and apparently he even trod on some baby birds on the way to the arena..

The impartial unbiased review of course is that in his first professional boxing contest against the best this generation has to offer he did much better than any knowledgeable fan thought he was capable of, certainly much better than two other so called world title contenders that night.


I personally give McGregor credit for what he did do and for giving it a whirl.....but there was a reason why Mayweather did a Joe Frazier impression for the first time ever. Put simply he knew he could. He didn't do a tap for 3-4 rounds whilst McGregor had a go and blew himself out, and then he just walked straight ahead happy to absorb a few arm punches content in the knowledge that Connor would soon be fighting on fumes.

It was like a sparring session where an experienced fighter takes liberties against an inexperienced one just because they can.....which is exactly the crux of what we saw really.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on September 09, 2017, 11:09:21 AM
The idea that Mayweather would let McGregor hit him is pretty special. Why would he ever consider taking shots from this unknown quantity when his entire legacy was on the line. Ridiclious verging on retarded opinion.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Gaz on September 09, 2017, 11:13:05 AM
The idea that Mayweather would let McGregor hit him is pretty special. Why would he ever consider taking shots from this unknown quantity when his entire legacy was on the line. Ridiclious verging on retarded opinion.

We're not talking about him allowing clean shots to the head. He didn't turn into margarito all of a sudden. His defence was solid enough still just a lot more basic because he knew he didn't have to do anything out of the ordinary to allow McGregor to blow himself out while sustaining little damage himself.

Not that retarded really...


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on September 09, 2017, 11:59:01 AM
We're not talking about him allowing clean shots to the head. He didn't turn into margarito all of a sudden. His defence was solid enough still just a lot more basic because he knew he didn't have to do anything out of the ordinary to allow McGregor to blow himself out while sustaining little damage himself.

Not that retarded really...

Or he just got caught a few times as he'd been out of the ring for two years and wasn't as sharp as in his pre retirement fights.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on September 09, 2017, 02:33:40 PM
The idea that Mayweather would let McGregor hit him is pretty special. Why would he ever consider taking shots from this unknown quantity when his entire legacy was on the line. Ridiclious verging on retarded opinion.

Not let him hit him, but not give his defense anywhere near as much regard as if Alvarez was pitching at him. So rather than making a punch miss completely, he was happy to take the sting out of shots, nullify and deflect. He didn't sit in front of Alvarez, but he was more than happy to walk right up to McGregor. You don't allow a banger to knock you about cus even half hits can hurt and start adding up, but against a guy whose power you feel you can handle you'll allow him to land some scuffing shots on arms and gloves if you feel its taking more out of him than you.....as was clearly the case with Mayweather/McGregor.


He had an idea what McGregor was or more to the point wasn't bringing to the table going in....confirmed it in the first couple of rounds and then used subtle pressure tactics to wear him down as it progressed. McGregor did well against the version of Mayweather that turned up to fight him, but that's not saying much. Mayweather didn't need nor did he bother getting out of second gear.

End of the day Floyd is one of most decorated boxers of all time, and he was up against a novice.
Saying this isn't a slight on McGregor....its just the plain straight forward truth.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: jimjack on September 09, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
Please stop now.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: Tim2366 on September 09, 2017, 09:51:41 PM
 ;D ;D ;D hilarious stuff.


Title: Re: Mayweather v McGregor
Post by: lurkyshaka on September 10, 2017, 10:05:50 AM
;D ;D ;D hilarious stuff.

What?