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Title: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on June 22, 2017, 09:56:53 AM
I was a touch dubious about this when it was announced with no boxers on board, but it is now looking like it could be a good set up.  Dorticos has just signed up to the Cruiserweights along with Bredis, Wlodarczyk and Gassiev meaning that the WBC and IBF champions are on board (Dorticos has the WBA 'regular' belt).  There are rumours that Usyk will be signing up for it too.

Groves is the only name confirmed for the Super-Middle event at present and it looks as if this will be the weaker pool talent wise with Smith/Dirrell fighing in September and DeGale injured but could still produce some good fights depending who ultimately ends up signing. 

It seems the Sauerland's have learned from the shortcomings of the Super Six by making it a straight knock out tournament so that momentum and interest doesn't wain. 


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: tweetstreet on June 22, 2017, 10:43:51 AM
The cruiserweight competition is shaping up to be absolutely awesome get Durodola, kudryashov, and maybe Lebedev, Huck and Makubu in and you'd have a cracking line up.

Love the cruiserweights!

One thing for sure is that Bellew wouldn't go anywhere near the tournament


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on June 22, 2017, 10:44:44 AM


It seems the Sauerland's have learned from the shortcomings of the Super Six by making it a straight knock out tournament so that momentum and interest doesn't wain. 

What happens if it's a draw?

I cant see Sauerland signing Dirrell to any sort of commitment after the stunts he pulled against Abraham and then withdrew anyway. Unless it was for revenge.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on June 22, 2017, 11:07:01 AM
I imagine they'll be hoping that there aren't any as they want it to start in September this year and conclude in May 2018.  Although the fighter who won the most rounds across all cards could advance for the purposes of the tournament unless it was an absolute draw.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on July 01, 2017, 02:10:45 PM
Usyk now confirmed for the Cruisers so that really should produce some cracking fights.

Skogland and Cox in the Super Middles so hopefully a few decent names will get added before the draw. I welcome the chance to see Cox get planted though.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on July 01, 2017, 07:17:44 PM
Usyk now confirmed for the Cruisers so that really should produce some cracking fights.

Skogland and Cox in the Super Middles so hopefully a few decent names will get added before the draw. I welcome the chance to see Cox get planted though.

I guess Hearn pulled in a favour from his friends the Sauerlands to get Cox into this; not sure how he merits getting into something like this. Pity likes of Degale and Callum Smith aren't involved but sure Groves will relish chance to do well in this and wouldn't be against him going far.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: MR GLEN on July 02, 2017, 10:40:44 AM
Injuries will delay bouts so what looks like a good idea on paper will turn it all into a farce


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on July 06, 2017, 08:39:06 AM
Looks like Callum Smith has sacked off Dirrell to sign up to the tournament now.  Certainly adds more interest to the Super-Middle edition.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: tweetstreet on July 06, 2017, 03:50:29 PM
Perez the final name in the cruiserweight competition! Absolutely mouthwatering competition!


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Laney on July 06, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
Smith boxing for the WBC diamond strap - so thats how they managed the WBC situation!


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on July 07, 2017, 07:32:04 PM
Winner of Eubank Jr v Abraham going in too. 168 version now potentially very interesting domestically.

The Cruiser edition is probably the best thing in the sport at the moment but I fear that the lack of US fighters may mean it doesn't quite get the attention it should.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: AO88 on July 09, 2017, 06:51:06 PM
George Groves fighting Jamie Cox in the first fight. Never seen Cox but heard he's decent though somewhat unproven.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Goldenboy87 on July 10, 2017, 09:46:57 AM
Really looking forward to the fights, obviously always a great concept the tournaments if they are done well and also have a bit of luck. Unfortunately injuries always play a part, but alot of money on the line so can imagine guys wonít necessarily be looking to pull out with little niggles.

Just a bit of a waiting game now for the fights to happen. Not so up to speed on all the Cruiserweights but obviously on paper looks like a fantastic line up with all 4 of the title holders in the mix and some dangerous fighters filling the other 4 spaces including Mike Perez!

Super Middleweight obviously bigger interest on the UK side with Groves, Smith, Cox and hopefully Eubank Jr




Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on July 10, 2017, 09:51:00 AM
Full list of match-ups for the quarter finals:

Super-middleweight

George Groves v Jamie Cox

Callum Smith v Erik Skoglund

Chris Eubank Jr/Arthur Abraham v Avni Yildirim

Jurgen Brahmer v Rob Brant

Cruiserweight

Oleksandr Usyk v Marco Huck

Murat Gassiev v Krzysztof Wlodarczyk

Mairis Briedis v Mike Perez

Yunier Dorticos v Dmitry Kudryashov


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on July 10, 2017, 10:27:13 AM
George Groves fighting Jamie Cox in the first fight. Never seen Cox but heard he's decent though somewhat unproven.

He could iron out Groves in an upset.

If Groves boxes well, he should win - but Cox is a live opponent.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Kevan2 on July 10, 2017, 11:45:45 AM
looking forward to these fights.
Cox best not fight as he did in his last fight or he is going to sleep.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on July 24, 2017, 02:13:41 PM
Groves v Cox set for 14th October at Wembley Arena.  Hopefully the TV deal will be announced soon now there are some firm dates.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on July 25, 2017, 05:59:22 PM
Groves v Cox set for 14th October at Wembley Arena.  Hopefully the TV deal will be announced soon now there are some firm dates.

From what I gather Sky won't be covering these but I think we might see Groves-Cox on Sky since Cox is Matchroom fighter and Groves last few fights have been on there. Could possibly see BT getting involved with these if one broadcaster is going to have all the rights.

Eubank Sr will probably want Jr to be on ITV PPV  //


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jaff_no1 on July 25, 2017, 08:48:26 PM
I find it strange Callum Smith is at the echo on 16 September and 2 weeks later matchroom have a show there 2 weeks later. Judging by that sky and matchroom won't be involved


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jorg21 on July 26, 2017, 06:14:52 PM
The way Eddie said it on his latest interview with Kugan is that the organizers weren't allowing broadcasters to choose the fights so Sky couldn't just choose the Brits it was an all or nothing package.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on July 26, 2017, 08:37:44 PM
Be interested to see who picks this up cos barring the fights involving the British fighters there won't be a lot of interest from Joe Bloggs for the others.

BoxNation probably most likely since they can show fights on that channel if there are any clashes with W***** cards on BT.

Re: Callum Smith card in Liverpool, wonder how this will sell given Matchroom have show a fortnight later and most of Hearn's Liverpool based stable are on that. All the Smith brothers on undercard  ;D


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on July 27, 2017, 08:52:11 AM
I think it's good that it is being sold as a package (as long as it gets picked up over here) as otherwise it is likely that we'd have missed out on some of the great fights made in the Cruiser tournament.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on September 04, 2017, 08:17:15 PM
It's been announced that ITV have got the rights. Great news to have a consistent run of good fights on terrestrial tv.  Some will be PPV but all those without British fighters will be free I imagine.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: lurkyshaka on September 05, 2017, 08:45:44 AM
It's been announced that ITV have got the rights. Great news to have a consistent run of good fights on terrestrial tv.  Some will be PPV but all those without British fighters will be free I imagine.

I bet they won't....I reckon more likely they'll try and link the British angle and make fights featuring the Brits PPV.
Certainly Eubank will continue to be PPV.



Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 05, 2017, 08:50:22 AM
I bet they won't....I reckon more likely they'll try and link the British angle and make fights featuring the Brits PPV.
Certainly Eubank will continue to be PPV.



I seen the advert for the Callum fight on ITV yesterday and there was no mention of PPV


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on September 05, 2017, 08:58:17 AM
I bet they won't....I reckon more likely they'll try and link the British angle and make fights featuring the Brits PPV.
Certainly Eubank will continue to be PPV.

That's what I meant but may not have worded it very well.

The Smith fight is going to be free to air though which is a good start.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: ScottMillwall on September 05, 2017, 11:58:14 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if just Eubank's PPV.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on September 05, 2017, 07:27:38 PM
Callum Smith is on ITV4

Groves and Eubank fights are PPV - they're on consecutive weekends as well  //


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on September 16, 2017, 07:10:13 PM
Some shot by Parker there.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 16, 2017, 07:14:47 PM
Some shot by Parker there.

Not seen him before, was a peach of a shot right on the button


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: SCOTTY'S SOBER on September 16, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
This saurland eurotrash intro bullshit is cheesey as F*ck.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 16, 2017, 09:09:49 PM
Feels a bit 'pbc' ish the ring walk and stuff this


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: wbamitch on September 16, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
Hard to argue with the above, quick side note, did anybody find a way to access the Usyk/Huck fight on catch up at least with ITV due to show all the fights?


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Driscoll on September 16, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
Smith isn't looking very good here


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 16, 2017, 09:40:44 PM
Smith needs to move his head


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jaff_no1 on September 16, 2017, 09:45:02 PM
This competition is meant to be the best of the best at super middle. I wonder what a prime carl froch would do to most of it

On another note, whilst the commentary isn't great it's nice to hear unbiased commentary for a change instead of the usual sky cheerleading


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Driscoll on September 16, 2017, 10:05:00 PM
This competition is meant to be the best of the best at super middle. I wonder what a prime carl froch would do to most of it

On another note, whilst the commentary isn't great it's nice to hear unbiased commentary for a change instead of the usual sky cheerleading

I think the commentary was pretty biased toward Smith to be honest


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 16, 2017, 10:07:14 PM
Never heard of that swede but. I thought he gave a great accountant of himself.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jaff_no1 on September 16, 2017, 10:09:46 PM
I don't think Paul Smith will be making the super middle limit any time soon either


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on September 16, 2017, 10:11:18 PM
Lucky we had The Answer to tell us that the WSSB fights would be shit.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on September 16, 2017, 10:17:22 PM
I thought Smith looked distinctly average tonight he seemed to struggle with a full three minute round he dropped off in the last minute on occasion. He was easy to catch and when I think of him with Groves or Eubank Jnr I'd fancy both to win. I personally think Eubank Jnrs busy style and fast pace would be a nightmare for Smith. Groves heavier hands would see him likely stopping Smith.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 16, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
 I wasn't as convinced on smith during he fight as I was before.

Been a good nights boxing on itv.

Best show on terrestrial I've seen for as long as I can remember


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on September 16, 2017, 10:37:29 PM
I don't think Smith had a mediocre night, more like Skoglund was very decent and a worthy entrant into the tournament.

Enjoyable.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: lurkyshaka on September 17, 2017, 12:03:18 AM
I don't think Smith had a mediocre night, more like Skoglund was very decent and a worthy entrant into the tournament.

Enjoyable.

Yeah agreed, I think the swede proved to be a quality operator. They posed each other mirror image type problems. That fight could be crucial in Smith's overall development. And Skoglund can come again. He'd give any 68 pounder problems.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 17, 2017, 08:59:23 AM
Yeah agreed, I think the swede proved to be a quality operator. They posed each other mirror image type problems. That fight could be crucial in Smith's overall development. And Skoglund can come again. He'd give any 68 pounder problems.

Agree on this, like I've mentioned in far from Burt sugar but I'd not heard of the lad before it and thought it would be a walk in the park for smith.

He was a good offensive fighter and boxed well. Loads of respect in defeat also which was nice to see


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: lurkyshaka on September 17, 2017, 11:52:59 AM
Agree on this, like I've mentioned in far from Burt sugar but I'd not heard of the lad before it and thought it would be a walk in the park for smith.

He was a good offensive fighter and boxed well. Loads of respect in defeat also which was nice to see

Yeah he was a very classy guy, it was fought in a great spirit. Extremely competitive but so much respect throughout. Think it was the 12th when they both took turns belting each other and then shared a smile. Nice moment.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on September 17, 2017, 01:38:28 PM
Yeah he was a very classy guy, it was fought in a great spirit. Extremely competitive but so much respect throughout. Think it was the 12th when they both took turns belting each other and then shared a smile. Nice moment.

I like needle in a build up, it's a fight but it's also good to see him raise smiths hand at the end .

Nothin wrong with respect in defeat.
Nothing worse than seeing a fighter throw his dummy out and go stomping off out the ring makes them look a right plank pot  ;D


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on October 17, 2017, 03:18:48 PM
Final of the Cruiserweight edition has been confirmed for Saudi Arabia in May.  Seems a shame given where the remaining fighters are based. 


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Driscoll on October 17, 2017, 04:09:33 PM
Final of the Cruiserweight edition has been confirmed for Saudi Arabia in May.  Seems a shame given where the remaining fighters are based. 

Fighting in an empty arena then


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Faulks on October 17, 2017, 05:48:08 PM
No piss heads in crowd then


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: glenn_user on October 18, 2017, 08:30:27 PM
kalle sauerland is going to get executed isnt he


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: GOD on October 19, 2017, 09:44:31 PM
No piss heads in crowd then

Not unless they want to spend the rest of their lives in jail!


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on October 24, 2017, 12:48:36 PM
Brahmer v Brant is on ITV Box Office for free this Friday at 9.45pm.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on November 14, 2017, 06:24:32 PM
Groves v Eubank venue and date will be confirmed next week for February and will be in the UK.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on January 06, 2018, 04:26:09 PM
Still no word on date or venue for Callum Smith's semi-final.

Seems strange considering how organised the rest of the tournament is.

Anybody know anything? Guessing there's an injury on one side?


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on January 06, 2018, 10:02:40 PM
I heard a rumour Smith was due to fight his SF in Germany which he isnít happy about and may pull out the super six.

This might be a load of rubbish but who knows ?


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: lurkyshaka on January 09, 2018, 10:44:41 AM
I heard a rumour Smith was due to fight his SF in Germany which he isnít happy about and may pull out the super six.

This might be a load of rubbish but who knows ?

I could see there being some truth to it, but I don't think the organisation will allow it to go that far. I expect to see a neutral venue at worst.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on January 09, 2018, 11:23:45 AM
With the Sauerland's already having been part of the Super Six I'd imagine that the contracts would be sewn up to prevent guys pulling out because they don't like the venue.  Both Smith and Braehmer had their first fights of the tournament at a home venue so I can't see that there should be complaint from either of them if they have to travel for the next round.  From a purely commercial standpoint, I'd say that there is no way that this fight could justify a neutral venue.

I'd be disappointed if Smith is reluctant to travel to face an old Braehmer though given that he'll have had the easiest possible route to the final.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: lurkyshaka on January 09, 2018, 04:53:27 PM
With the Sauerland's already having been part of the Super Six I'd imagine that the contracts would be sewn up to prevent guys pulling out because they don't like the venue.  Both Smith and Braehmer had their first fights of the tournament at a home venue so I can't see that there should be complaint from either of them if they have to travel for the next round.  From a purely commercial standpoint, I'd say that there is no way that this fight could justify a neutral venue.

I'd be disappointed if Smith is reluctant to travel to face an old Braehmer though given that he'll have had the easiest possible route to the final.

From a commercial viewpoint holding the fight in the UK and Liverpool makes most sense. It'd be a big event over here. But then again why should Smith have things all his own way and Braehmer be expected to dance to Callum's tune. I understand Smith not being keen on going to Germany but surely he'd have known the potential route the tournament could have taken prior to entering......and like you say he should be quite capable of going to Germany and trampling all over Braehmer at this point!

Ultimately I can't see the location being any real stumbling block.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on January 11, 2018, 11:18:24 AM
I see Gallagher is saying it should be at a neutral venue but I don't see either fighter being a big enough draw outside of their homelands to make that viable.  Whilst he can moan about previous decisions in Germany, it's hardly like the UK is an enticing prospect for foreign fighters when a fight goes to the cards at present.

It's a disappointing stance from Smith for me.  Usyk will have had both of his fights in the tournament so far in his opponents back yard and Eubank didn't make a fuss about having to go to Germany.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on January 12, 2018, 12:11:17 PM
The fight has just been confirmed for Nuremberg on 24th February.  Nice to have the semi's on back to back weekends.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on January 26, 2018, 03:48:27 PM
Usyk v Bredis is on free to air on the ITV Box Office channel tomorrow.  Should be a quality fight followed by Gassiev v Dorticos next weekend on ITV4.

It's just been announced that Groves v Eubank will be £16.95 and Smith v Braehmer will be £9.95 on PPV.  I'm not sure that there is enough interest in Smith currently for people to part with him a tenner to watch him against Braehmer.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on January 26, 2018, 03:57:18 PM
Usyk v Bredis is on free to air on the ITV Box Office channel tomorrow.  Should be a quality fight followed by Gassiev v Dorticos next weekend on ITV4.

It's just been announced that Groves v Eubank will be £16.95 and Smith v Braehmer will be £9.95 on PPV.  I'm not sure that there is enough interest in Smith currently for people to part with him a tenner to watch him against Braehmer.

I hope people do support smith via PPV, but you may have a point.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on January 28, 2018, 01:24:55 PM
Brilliant fight between Usyk and Bredis last night, both a credit to the sport. Next weeks semi and the final will have made for a great series of fights. Hopefully they can get get some equally strong weight classes for the next edition.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Driscoll on January 28, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
I canít find this on demand anywhere


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: wbamitch on February 03, 2018, 04:33:56 PM
A reminder to check out the 2nd semi final in the cruiserweight division tonight, expect another shootout although I really donít see this going the distance. Iím favouring Gassiev who is a bit more methodical in his destructive approach these two both have, think his body work could force the Cuban out.

I do believe Gassiev brings the best final against Usyk but Iíd like to see Dorticos win the tournament.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 04, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
Another great fight at Cruiser in the tournament. There canít be many other fights of recent times that warrant getting excited for as much as Usyk v Gassiev. Just a shame itís in such an unappealing destination as Jeddah.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: wbamitch on February 04, 2018, 12:36:00 PM
Fantastic final, for a little bit it looked that Dorticos would just be to big in his stalking of Gassiev but the quality and variety of Gassiev took over, Dorticos had an unbelieve chin and I couldn't see him being stopped, perfect counter shot in the 12th which effectively closed the show.

After Usyk's semi last week I felt Gassiev could really cause big problems in the final, just slightly after last night I am fancying Usyk a little bit more. Usyk has looked hittable though and Gassiev definately has a bit of variety, I feel Usyk may not be able to take as much as Dorticos but he definately has a lot more to his game than Dorticos who was very one dimensional.

Usyk definately starts as the favourite but the outcome has a bit more doubt cast over it, think I will be looking at both their toughest fights (Lebedev and Breidis) again in anticipation in what really is a great final. The destination is baffling, I get its a worldwide tournament but come on!

Any announcements on the Super Middleweight final, that has to be in the UK surely?



Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 04, 2018, 01:23:58 PM
No announcement yet but itís hard to see it being anywhere else with what looks set to be an all British final.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 07, 2018, 02:59:35 PM
Good piece on Groves by Donald McRae:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/07/george-groves-chris-eubank-jr-boxing-interview#comments (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/07/george-groves-chris-eubank-jr-boxing-interview#comments)

Very funny comparing Eubank's Snr and Jr to David Brent and Gareth in The Office.

Skybet have Groves at 6/1 to win the fight on points which seems very good value to me.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 12, 2018, 06:44:28 PM
Odds for the Saturdayís card:
Groves 6/4 v Eubank Jr 8/13
Walsh 5/6 v Lowe 10/11
Langford 8/15 v Arnfield 7/5
Iqbal 1/2 v Vallily 7/5

Not often you see four fights that are between 50/50 and 60/40 on a British card nowadays.



Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Chris on February 13, 2018, 04:43:43 PM

Skybet have Groves at 6/1 to win the fight on points which seems very good value to me.


I've had a bet on that, only got 11/2 though.

Do you remember my Groves vs Degale bet? Groves to win on points was 33/1 with Sporting Bet, had a tenner on that!


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Gaz on February 13, 2018, 04:57:37 PM
Seen some of the footage of the workouts today.....Eubank as expected looks shredded and in fantastic shape, but tiny, like a welterweight almost. Obviously he will fill out after the weigh in so they won't look quite as different in size but Eubank is a medium to small middleweight and Groves is a big super middleweight naturally. I think this fight does come down to size, and Groves' superior fundamental skillset, starting with the jab. If that shot alone is on point then all the freestyling that Eubank does will be rendered irrelevant.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The_Answer on February 13, 2018, 07:25:44 PM
Seen some of the footage of the workouts today.....Eubank as expected looks shredded and in fantastic shape, but tiny, like a welterweight almost. Obviously he will fill out after the weigh in so they won't look quite as different in size but Eubank is a medium to small middleweight and Groves is a big super middleweight naturally. I think this fight does come down to size, and Groves' superior fundamental skillset, starting with the jab. If that shot alone is on point then all the freestyling that Eubank does will be rendered irrelevant.

You don't see Groves being incredibly easy to hit and Eubank Jr's speed being a factor at all.. personally I think that's more of a banker than size coming into it.

I think he will land combinations often and at will and the ref stops it for Eubank Jr TKO around the round 7/8 mark.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jimjack on February 13, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
You don't see Groves being incredibly easy to hit and Eubank Jr's speed being a factor at all.. personally I think that's more of a banker than size coming into it.

I think he will land combinations often and at will and the ref stops it for Eubank Jr TKO around the round 7/8 mark.

Big call that mate, canít see Eubank stopping groves. He doesnít hit hard for a mw let alone against a big smw.
If it goes to points then Eubank has a shout, personally see groves doing a number on him and smashing him up.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Gaz on February 13, 2018, 09:21:40 PM
You don't see Groves being incredibly easy to hit and Eubank Jr's speed being a factor at all.. personally I think that's more of a banker than size coming into it.

I think he will land combinations often and at will and the ref stops it for Eubank Jr TKO around the round 7/8 mark.

No I don't see that mate. I don't think Groves has to do anything special to win this fight like I said as long as his jab is sharp that will go a long way to keeping Eubank under control.

If Groves allows it to become a tear up then Eubank has a shot.Other than that I just think Groves will be too big, too natural at the weight and ultimately too skilled in the basics of the game. I see Eubank as a bit of a freestyler, great against a certain level of opponent but the last time he fought anyone with an ounce of class about them he got stood on his head for 6 rounds against BJS til BJS ran out of gas and even then this speed, intensity and punches in bunches approach didn't do enough for him. Eubank may well have improved since that fight but he hasn't fought anyone since then who has made him tap into what boxing brain he has, something which Groves will definitely make him do on Saturday.

He may well show another level but asking me right now, I don't see it. Groves has all the tools to make this a comfortable night unless bravado kicks in, that's the only danger to Groves as far as I can see.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Driscoll on February 14, 2018, 07:57:41 AM
If Groves starts landing heavy shots to the body then the fights over. Eubank might have a decent chin but GG is a big SMW and a fairly hard hitting one. Body shots are the difference when fighting the naturally smaller man.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 14, 2018, 08:54:02 AM
I've had a bet on that, only got 11/2 though.

Do you remember my Groves vs Degale bet? Groves to win on points was 33/1 with Sporting Bet, had a tenner on that!

Yeah, that was a cracker!  Groves points has come in to 5/1 generally now and 4/1 some places. 

I'm surprised that Eubank is favoured so much by the bookies in this fight.  I think a lot of fans would give Groves the edge given his size, power and experience.  Martin Murray said Groves hit harder than Golovkin and Eubank wanted no part of him so I can see Jr being on his bike for the first half of the fight as he was against BJS.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 15, 2018, 07:36:45 PM
I reckon this is Eubanks moment, speed kills and I don't think Groves likes a fast mobile fighter. If Eubank is lazy then Groves will nail him however Froch had the style to make George look fantastic. He won't last down the straight Groves and wouldn't be surprised if you see a late Eubank stoppage. All that said Snr might well pull out Jnr if he starts taking to many shots save the Eubank warrior code and all that.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on February 15, 2018, 07:56:08 PM
Eubank Jr has average 'middleweight' power.

Groves has very good 'super middleweight' power.

I know when Carl sparred him he didn't really put the foot down for two reasons, 1) his old man was there and Carl was respectful of bashing up his kid and 2) He felt bigger and would be taking a liberty.

Besides, Carl enjoyed the skills and workrate - it was a big plus for his Wembley prep and he would not blow it or take the piss by bashing Jr up.

It was a bit weird seeing Jr posting up videos of himself sparring Froch, knowing what I knew then from the horse's mouth as he drove to Sheffield.

Froch makes no apologies for rating Eubank Jr and likes him. But i don't know if he will beat Groves.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Scarface on February 16, 2018, 12:33:58 PM
Eubank will win by stoppage or points... due to Groves inability to defend against Eubanks numerous uppercuts... expect to see groves head being jolted back throughout the fight.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 16, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
Iím edging towards Eubank Jnr in this one purely on a gut feel I think it will go deep this fight and his fitness will tell but obviously Groves will come in better comdition than his last fight he has to.

Overall Iím hoping itís a belter I donít really care who wins and I want Callum Smith to win this it will be interesting to see how he fights next week he should win but you never know how he will perform being away from home.



Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 16, 2018, 01:31:37 PM
Eubank will win by stoppage or points... due to Groves inability to defend against Eubanks numerous uppercuts... expect to see groves head being jolted back throughout the fight.

If Groves boxes anywhere near his best, Eubank will have a tough time getting in range to land with an uppercut.  And if he does get close, it's a shot he's been used to landing without having much come back at him and he'll risk leaving himself open to being caught to the body if he doesn't throw it sparingly.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on February 16, 2018, 04:01:07 PM
Mayweather gym pick their winner:

Badou Jack, J'Leon Love etc



Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 16, 2018, 04:27:14 PM
Weights:

Groves - 167.1 lbs
Eubank Jr - 167.6 lbs


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: GOD on February 16, 2018, 05:17:06 PM
I'm really surprised people are picking Eubank to win...he looks great against fighters with no lateral movement but will always get shown up against any boxer with skills...he only has a chance if Groves gets dragged into a dog fight and I can't see that...Groves has never been beaten up, he's only been sparked that one time by Froch but all his losses were competitive fights...Eubank has gotten fitter and stronger since the loss to BJS but hasn't improved in terms of boxing skills...Groves will expose all those weaknesses once again on route to relatively comfortable points win


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: bigbibbs on February 17, 2018, 09:50:13 AM
Regardless of the outcome how are you watching the fight.
I don't have an action sky subscription so I purchased the TV player option.
Let me warn anyone thinking the same that do not purchase through them as they are totally shit.
They trick you into purchasing a subscription to their shit service and then don't send any proof of your order.
When I challenged them they cancelled it on me. There is no phone number to contact them just email.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 17, 2018, 11:48:37 AM
Other than ITV box office does anyone know what overseas channels are showing this fight ?


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: smoky on February 17, 2018, 05:41:58 PM
Please send a link in pm.  Tough fight to call. 


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Scarface on February 17, 2018, 07:10:50 PM
Please send a link in pm.  Tough fight to call. 

same here please... much appreciated... cant miss this one.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Scarface on February 17, 2018, 07:35:24 PM
Wow - tough one to find a link for.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 17, 2018, 07:42:18 PM
Wow - tough one to find a link for.

being trying myself not wanting to part with the cash but wanting to see the fight


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 17, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
Its amazing how people view things Groves is known as a power puncher and Eubank a volume puncher yet both fighters enter tonights contest with exactly the same number of TKOs 20. Neither has a big name on there record they have stopped.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: chipper on February 17, 2018, 07:54:16 PM
Any links please pm me :)


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 17, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
I would guess Groves punches harder from what ive seen and he has definately been in with better fighters.

He has beaten Degale but he maybe living abit off his Froch knockdown though he did box pretty well in both fights.

I just think Eubank is fresher and will edge this one.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 17, 2018, 08:20:10 PM
If anyone gets any links PM me too please


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: dmp on February 17, 2018, 09:04:09 PM
sports donkey 35 for 6 months
im watching in hd  perfect picture


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 17, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Here we go, can't wait.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: pogo on February 17, 2018, 10:12:18 PM
Difficult fight to weigh up. I'll go Groves stoppage I think.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 17, 2018, 10:47:48 PM
4-3 Groves, I looks as though groves will stop Eubank late to me


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 17, 2018, 11:06:46 PM
Groves won this too slick


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 17, 2018, 11:08:55 PM
Looks like Groves dislocated his shoulder in that last round.

Jr was awful though, canít believe so many people bought into the hype.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on February 17, 2018, 11:09:02 PM
be surprised if he didn't get the nod, however Eubank had Groves in bother at the end


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: stinka on February 17, 2018, 11:14:18 PM
Absolute shut out. Jr looked like an amateur. Same as the Saunders fight. The lad ainít no boxer


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 17, 2018, 11:15:51 PM
Absolute shut out. Jr looked like an amateur. Same as the Saunders fight. The lad ainít no boxer

Too busy concentrating on throwing shots to look good on instagram instead of working on things that are useful in actual fights.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 17, 2018, 11:18:54 PM
I thought Eubank fitness and Groves fight against Cox swung it my way of thinking .

Eubank Jnr has some chin but he was beaten tonight his boxing skills aren’t great though.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Gaz on February 17, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
Think I pretty much called it beforehand (quite proud, given my predictions are usually way off the mark)!

Always felt Eubank would have trouble dealing with the superior range and basic skills of Groves. He hasn't fought a decent boxer since BJS schooled him so obviously hasn't learned his lessons from that fight. He was shocking tonight, so wild and sloppy. Yes he had the engine to keep swinging for 12 rounds and beyond and had the chin to just about be able to soak up what Groves landed on him, but other than that he just looked awful. That's not a world class fighter we've seen tonight.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Chris on February 17, 2018, 11:29:39 PM
Nas losing his shit at the end with his views on both boxers  ;D


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 17, 2018, 11:36:43 PM
Nas is brilliant tonight haha

Eubank Jnr should retire how many Stella's has he had !!


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Chris on February 17, 2018, 11:36:58 PM
Nas demanding Eubank's retirement now  ;D


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Gaz on February 17, 2018, 11:37:30 PM
Naz making himself sound like a twat.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: bigbibbs on February 17, 2018, 11:38:38 PM
Best bit of the night naz in the limelight giving it both barrels lol.
I love it.
He thinks eubank should quit lol.
Naz is in form tonight he always had a needle for eubank and he's letting rip.
Seriously Eubank jnr was poor tonight and what a shame that was. He could have done much better against someone else but Groves was too good.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 17, 2018, 11:39:59 PM
Nas demanding Eubank's retirement now  ;D

Quick turnaround from saying heíd win the fight!


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Chris on February 17, 2018, 11:42:25 PM
Wish they'd get his name right though, both Nas and Duke calling him Eubanks.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Chris on February 17, 2018, 11:45:49 PM
Stadium is completely empty but Nas still slagging Eubank off  ;D


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: GOD on February 17, 2018, 11:53:10 PM
I'm really surprised people are picking Eubank to win...he looks great against fighters with no lateral movement but will always get shown up against any boxer with skills...he only has a chance if Groves gets dragged into a dog fight and I can't see that...Groves has never been beaten up, he's only been sparked that one time by Froch but all his losses were competitive fights...Eubank has gotten fitter and stronger since the loss to BJS but hasn't improved in terms of boxing skills...Groves will expose all those weaknesses once again on route to relatively comfortable points win

Went exactly as I thought it would, it was such an easy fight to predict...Eubank Jr looks a million dollars against flat-footed fighters who allow him to tee off, but he will always fall short against any decent boxer with ring craft


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: dmp on February 17, 2018, 11:53:54 PM
naz  is right jr is not world class
dinned out on sr rep,nigel ben called this fitgiht right


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 17, 2018, 11:54:36 PM
Nas is off his head mate he dont like Eubank Snr.

He was correct in terms of boxing skills but his comment of hand it to Groves now im not sure Smith is a big SM I expect him to perform better.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: dmp on February 17, 2018, 11:59:43 PM
naz was funny and is fat


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on February 18, 2018, 08:18:35 AM
Naz is entertaining, but he is a shithouse.

Never forget Barrera making him his wife.

Groves was ok and Jr wouldíve been better if not for the hole in his eyebrow leaking claret Absolutely everywhere!

Was it a classic ? God no !

But it was better than Ward vs Green and plenty of Andre Dirrel fights.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: bigbibbs on February 18, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
Who think Eubank can go back to school bow his head and learn how to box.
He says he shows no emotion in the ring but perhaps that loses him the fight.
In thinking single minded that he can blow anyone out he shuts down his own passion to switch the plan and method.
I think he shows too much emotion and ties himself up which in turn shuts down his capability.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: SteveR on February 18, 2018, 10:05:08 AM
Who think Eubank can go back to school bow his head and learn how to box.
He says he shows no emotion in the ring but perhaps that loses him the fight.
In thinking single minded that he can blow anyone out he shuts down his own passion to switch the plan and method.
I think he shows too much emotion and ties himself up which in turn shuts down his capability.

I was shocked to find out he's 28 - one year younger than Groves. It's too late for him. His (unearned) arrogance has ruined it for him IMO


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 18, 2018, 10:08:06 AM
I think the fact that Jr got Ďold mannedí by a guy a year older than him shows how far behind in training and in ring experience he actually is.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: SteveR on February 18, 2018, 10:10:44 AM
I think the fact that Jr got Ďold mannedí by a guy a year older than him shows how far behind in training and in ring experience he actually is.

Too busy giving it the big time Charlie.

Like him or loathe him, at least his dad was actually good administration earned the right to quote literally lord it up.

Which is the biggest father son gap, Chavez or Eubank?


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 18, 2018, 11:08:38 AM
Too busy giving it the big time Charlie.

Like him or loathe him, at least his dad was actually good administration earned the right to quote literally lord it up.

Which is the biggest father son gap, Chavez or Eubank?

Thatís a tough one as Chavez was just lazy and never lived the life. Eubank is clearly dedicated but has just refused to apply himself correctly due to his arrogance.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on February 19, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
I think the worst cut of his career happening during his biggest ever fight had a big part to play in Jr's performance.

I said earlier that I didn't know if he could beat Groves, but I think that hole in his temple which was bleeding solid for half an hour definitely affected his stamina / vision. Blood was everywhere and then adrenaline leaking into your eyes and mixing around didn't help either.

Many have taken that fat lard ass Naz's drunken scathing rant a bit too far myself and we have got a pigeon mentality developing.

Eubank aint that good, but he's not a completely useless either. He hasn't figured out how to put all his gifts together and smooth over the flaws. That is because of the arrogance surrounding them. They don't wish to pay a 'bucket holder' - but some trainers are worth their weight in gold at this level where small adjustments are the difference between winning & losing.



Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Gaz on February 19, 2018, 11:37:14 AM
He has looked lost against the 2 competently skilled boxers he has faced at a higher level. The cut won't have helped of course but he was doing nothing even before that happened. This idea of doing nothing early doors and hoping to come on strong later in the fight is such a flawed plan especially when you don't have the brain to set up your attacks properly against a guy that's not prepared to just meet you head on.

Eubank has got some gifts but his lack of IQ has been exposed badly twice now. This nonsense attitude that he can do it all himself will kill his career if he doesn't have a serious rethink soon.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 19, 2018, 01:33:20 PM
Is anyone going to bother with the Smith v Bršhmer PPV? I think theyíve done the right thing by setting it at a lower price but it still doesnít hold enough interest for me to spend another tenner on it after last weekend. As thereís a card on BN, Iíll probably just watch FWís prospects bash people up on that instead.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Scarface on February 19, 2018, 01:38:45 PM
Eubank... surprised me in that he was not his usual composed self. He fought desperately from the beginning of the fight. As though he was already behind on the score cards.

He also went into the fight with the mindset that he could only win by knock out. Usually he showboats to goad the opponent into opening up and then he counters... but this was completly the opposite. He just went in with Plan A - to blast groves out.

Then the cut happend and that just made him fight even more desperately. The corner man was shaking/trembling trying his best to stop the bleeding but he looked lost and a bag of nerves too.

Groves did very well. The only criticism I had of his performance was the holding - something khan gets slack for. Apart from that he did what he had to do and registered a knock down that went against him. Good performance and he still has a lot to offer.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 19, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
Is anyone going to bother with the Smith v Bršhmer PPV? I think theyíve done the right thing by setting it at a lower price but it still doesnít hold enough interest for me to spend another tenner on it after last weekend. As thereís a card on BN, Iíll probably just watch FWís prospects bash people up on that instead.

I'll probably try and find a link for Smith v Brahmer also watch a few BN fights too before.

The fight is abit more interesting with it being in Germany I expect Smith to win but you never know out of his comfort zone and if it goes to the cards anything could happen.

I hope Callum wins it and I think it would be better if it is Groves V Smith final.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: glenn_user on February 19, 2018, 03:34:07 PM
that was awful to watch. im suprised how bad eubank was, those windmills were something to behold. he doesnt seem well disciplined enough to box tidily when hes under presure he just opens up and flails away. a lot of people were expecting a lot more from him than that. groves did nothing wrong, won easily, punished him at times for being so sloppy. its a testament to eubanks conditioning and mentality that he was still in the fight at the end, because his boxing was not good.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: GOD on February 19, 2018, 07:00:51 PM
I think the worst cut of his career happening during his biggest ever fight had a big part to play in Jr's performance.

I said earlier that I didn't know if he could beat Groves, but I think that hole in his temple which was bleeding solid for half an hour definitely affected his stamina / vision. Blood was everywhere and then adrenaline leaking into your eyes and mixing around didn't help either.

Many have taken that fat lard ass Naz's drunken scathing rant a bit too far myself and we have got a pigeon mentality developing.

Eubank aint that good, but he's not a completely useless either. He hasn't figured out how to put all his gifts together and smooth over the flaws. That is because of the arrogance surrounding them. They don't wish to pay a 'bucket holder' - but some trainers are worth their weight in gold at this level where small adjustments are the difference between winning & losing.



Naz was definitely going too far with what he said...

I think Eubank Jr has a future in the fight game, but he needs to be matched right...he just needs to be kept away from quality boxers, as was the case with his Father staying clear of the likes of Jones, Toney and Hopkins...

Jr needs to drop back down to 160, and avoid the likes of Canelo, GGG, Saunders, and Charlo like the plague...

He MUST be matched against the likes of Martin Murray, David Lemieux et al...he will look a million dollars against guys like that


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 19, 2018, 07:46:45 PM
The Day After:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ZptrpfbkHBM

Good to see the WBSS keeping the 360 type content from the Super Six going for this.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jimjack on February 19, 2018, 10:09:06 PM
I think the worst cut of his career happening during his biggest ever fight had a big part to play in Jr's performance.

I said earlier that I didn't know if he could beat Groves, but I think that hole in his temple which was bleeding solid for half an hour definitely affected his stamina / vision. Blood was everywhere and then adrenaline leaking into your eyes and mixing around didn't help either.

Many have taken that fat lard ass Naz's drunken scathing rant a bit too far myself and we have got a pigeon mentality developing.

Eubank aint that good, but he's not a completely useless either. He hasn't figured out how to put all his gifts together and smooth over the flaws. That is because of the arrogance surrounding them. They don't wish to pay a 'bucket holder' - but some trainers are worth their weight in gold at this level where small adjustments are the difference between winning & losing.



Agree with this.
Just because Naz wrapped as soon as he got involved with someone who didnít fall for his circus flailing arms it doesnít mean every fighter has to.
Not a fan of Eubank, but he is a decent fighter and has some real attributes... he does need the right person to show him how to use them. He may never be elite, but losing to a world champion fighter and the number 1 ranked fighter in the competition doesnít make you shit.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 20, 2018, 08:56:56 AM
Gareth Davis is reporting that Braehmer is out of the fight on Saturday and that a replacement will be announced.

Smith to fight Nieky Holzken 13-0 now.  I imagine that ITV will have to pull this as a PPV now.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on February 20, 2018, 10:59:13 AM
Gareth Davis is reporting that Braehmer is out of the fight on Saturday and that a replacement will be announced.

Smith to fight Nieky Holzken 13-0 now.  I imagine that ITV will have to pull this as a PPV now.

I bought the "2 fights for £19.95" offer from ITV for this fight and last Saturday's...

I bet a raft of folk will want their money back (Im not bothered really) and that will possibly hit Callum in the pocket if PPV sales are a factor of his purse.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 20, 2018, 11:39:44 AM
I bought the "2 fights for £19.95" offer from ITV for this fight and last Saturday's...

I bet a raft of folk will want their money back (Im not bothered really) and that will possibly hit Callum in the pocket if PPV sales are a factor of his purse.

I bought mine thorough Sky and didn't see that as an option or I'd have done that as well.  It will be a tough sell to keep it a PPV as I imagine there are very few that have heard of the guy he is fighting now.

Hopefully Groves recovers to be fit for the final as it would be a shame for the 168 edition to end up falling over the line when the WBSS as a whole has been so good to date.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: GOD on February 20, 2018, 05:52:33 PM
Gareth Davis is reporting that Braehmer is out of the fight on Saturday and that a replacement will be announced.

Smith to fight Nieky Holzken 13-0 now.  I imagine that ITV will have to pull this as a PPV now.

This is WONDERFUL news...this other guy will be easy work for Callum, he poses no threat at all...we NEED a guaranteed all-British final in order for this tournament to survive given the shoulder injury to Groves...Eubank Jr can step in for Groves if his shoulder is fooked for the long-term...Eubank jr Vs Callum is actually a fun fight so a a great back-up option if Groves can't make it...the point is that, with Braehmer pulling out, it will put more pressure on the WBSS board to have an all-British final if Groves cannot make it, because they will need it for commercial sustainability...


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Red on February 20, 2018, 07:48:16 PM
Has the extent of Groves injury been confirmed yet?


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 21, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
Has the extent of Groves injury been confirmed yet?
I read somewhere it wasn't too serious (for a dislocation) and no surgery was needed. I still think June 2nd would be too soon after that injury though


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 21, 2018, 08:07:34 PM
The sensible thing to do is to push the final back a few months so we get to see the boxers ranked 1 and 2 in the final.

If a replacement is called up Iíd guess they would look at Braehmer or someone like Degale as a replacement maybe as Braehmer could say he wasnít beaten and Degale is well known in the UK.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 21, 2018, 09:36:34 PM
They wonít push it back. I imagine they will look tonstart the new Series in September so wonít want the final of this one overshadowing the build up to the next edition or overlapping with it.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Driscoll on February 22, 2018, 08:07:44 PM
They wonít push it back. I imagine they will look tonstart the new Series in September so wonít want the final of this one overshadowing the build up to the next edition or overlapping with it.

I think if they donít push back the final given the circumstances then the WBSS concept loses credibility and interest.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 22, 2018, 09:41:54 PM
I think if they donít push back the final given the circumstances then the WBSS concept loses credibility and interest.

As long as the Cruiser editition goes off without a hitch I donít think there will be much of an impact.  A Groves v Smith final would be great domestically but they canít let one fight compromise what looks  to be a longer term concept.  There would be huge demand for Groves v the winner anyway if he wasnít in the final.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jaff_no1 on February 23, 2018, 11:04:37 AM
When Smith wins this weekend I think Eubank v Smith will be the final. Smith has still fought absolutely nobody of any note so I think would make for an intriguing fight. The only problem is if Eubank wins nobody will want to see Groves v Eubank again

The only way that changes is if the get Degale to come in and fight Smith instead


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jimjack on February 23, 2018, 09:05:30 PM
When Smith wins this weekend I think Eubank v Smith will be the final. Smith has still fought absolutely nobody of any note so I think would make for an intriguing fight. The only problem is if Eubank wins nobody will want to see Groves v Eubank again

The only way that changes is if the get Degale to come in and fight Smith instead

Surely groves has to fight in the final? Literally no point otherwise imo.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: Driscoll on February 23, 2018, 09:28:54 PM
As long as the Cruiser editition goes off without a hitch I donít think there will be much of an impact.  A Groves v Smith final would be great domestically but they canít let one fight compromise what looks  to be a longer term concept.  There would be huge demand for Groves v the winner anyway if he wasnít in the final.

I disagree mate. Leading up to the final you can accept it but the way the competitions played out you canít. Groves at the moment is a world champion and is arguably the man to beat in the division. You replace him in the final with someone he beat against a man thatís not fought anyone of note in his whole career, got a semi buy to the final and no world title whoíd be interested in that?
 


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 24, 2018, 12:00:55 PM
Kalle said in Boxing News that the end of June would be as far as they would be willing to put it back. They are still charging a tenner for Smith v Holzken so it certainly doesnít look like they are letting withdrawals take them off plan.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: jorg21 on February 24, 2018, 09:19:47 PM
any streams going for tonight? A PM if so please lads.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 24, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
Abit of a shock Zelfa Barrett lost on points to Ronnie Clark


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: AO88 on February 25, 2018, 12:11:37 AM
This competition has sadly failed to change the rather dull tone of Callum Smiths career. Heís fought nobody even now yet gets a final spot. Nothing against the guy but heís just done very little and now gets a final spot and world title shot.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: lurkyshaka on February 25, 2018, 02:02:05 PM
This competition has sadly failed to change the rather dull tone of Callum Smiths career. Heís fought nobody even now yet gets a final spot. Nothing against the guy but heís just done very little and now gets a final spot and world title shot.

Its true that Smith's career hasn't caught fire like it was expected it would, its been painfully slow burning but there's still time. The Groves fight will be built into a big event. There will be a lot on the line and some big lucrative options after. Hopefully it will capture the imagination.

Its strange how Smith's power has seemed to be on the wane in recent fights. Not sure whether that's a case of him fighting genuinely tough fighters lately, whether he's not quite a massive hitter on the world stage, or whether he's drained at the weight and its depleting him. Perhaps a bit of everything.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on February 26, 2018, 10:58:33 AM
Groves has said heís having a minor operation on his shoulder this morning and should be ready to fight in July. Hopefully this can be accommodated as it should mean the final being done and dusted before any of the new series commence.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: legs on February 26, 2018, 07:42:38 PM
Makes sense to put it back for a month its the final fans want to see.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: bigbibbs on February 27, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
I agree that it hasn't quite set the world alight. But you have to ask yourself why?
The best fighting the best but still it doesn't ignite.
If this competition hadn't happened who would each of these guys have fought if not each other.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: AO88 on February 27, 2018, 08:53:26 PM
I agree that it hasn't quite set the world alight. But you have to ask yourself why?
The best fighting the best but still it doesn't ignite.
If this competition hadn't happened who would each of these guys have fought if not each other.

To be honest the only decent fighters in this are those from the UK.

I think Groves and maybe eubank would of faced each other or decent opponents. Smith may of fought another 3 or 4 number one contender fights while waiting for a world champion willing to set up a ring in Kirkby market.



Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on April 11, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
Groves has said heíll be ready to fight in the final if an extension is granted to push it back until 7th July.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on April 16, 2018, 06:36:43 PM
Usyk has suffered an elbow injury so the Cruiserweight final now needs to be postponed. Itís a real shame that both editions have run into injury problems just before the conclusion.  Although the Cruiser was starting to be touted for other destinations last week.


Title: Re: World Boxing Super Series
Post by: The Hurricane on May 09, 2018, 11:08:37 AM
The new weight classes are to be announced today.  I read that Rodriguez had stayed in the UK after his win over Butler so it will be interesting to see who else joins him in the mix.

Tete and Burnett a both in at Bantam which is a good start.