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Title: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: lurkyshaka on July 27, 2017, 09:05:00 AM
It's a great fight but I can't see Cotto fancying the fight at the stage of his career he's at. Brook has shown he's a very dangerous fighter even in recent defeats, and at 154 he'll figure to quite possibly be an improved fighter. This won't be lost on Cotto....but if Brook can get a high ranking with the WBO(whose belt Cotto is fighting for next up) and Hearn comes up with a lucrative offer....who knows!

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10963009/kell-brook-would-like-to-face-miguel-cotto-once-he-makes-his-return-to-the-ring (http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10963009/kell-brook-would-like-to-face-miguel-cotto-once-he-makes-his-return-to-the-ring)


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: The Hurricane on July 27, 2017, 09:14:27 AM
A very winnable fight for Brook at this stage and a great reason for Hearn to stage another PPV if he can get Cotto over here.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Gaz on July 27, 2017, 04:22:50 PM
If this happens in the UK I'll do everything I can to be there for it. Probably the only chance I'll get to see a modern boing hero of mine in the flesh (talking about Cotto here, just to be clear!)


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Kevan2 on July 28, 2017, 11:24:42 AM
I hav'nt been to a fight now for a few years......but if this fight can happen or if any fight can happen where Cotto comes to the uk i will 100% go to it. Subject to being able to buy a ticket coz i'm sure loads will feel the same way.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Faulks on July 28, 2017, 12:53:57 PM
Nice cash out fight for Miguel.

Dont bet against it happening.

He's been done for a while and this will pay big bucks.

Glad i seen him several times in his hayday but i'd still go and see him now


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: cloughie on July 28, 2017, 02:40:03 PM
ah.....Cotto. what an advert for the sport this fighter has been.

privileged to have been at MSG for Cotto-Paulie at 140

they should have made Hatton-Cotto @ 140 after that - what a fight that would have been

saw Cotto-Jennings @ MSG

with living in U.S for those years i saw all his fights on HBO. the Torres fight as nuts.

he was my fighter. i loved his stalking style, center of the ring, banging away, what KO power this guy had.

Faulkner and me enjoyed an interesting night at MSG for the Jennings fight. the way he dismantled Jennings was almost polite. that liver body shot and to see Jennings legs wobble about 2 seconds later - brave lad was Jennings.

that being said, being at the MGM in Nov 2009 to see the Roid-Head destroy him broke my heart.

you could see the hurt in him, given all the Ricans in attendance - you know he was utterly ashamed to have lost, but in reality he had nothing to be ashamed of at all.

whatever happens from this point on, if its a pay day then this guy has deserved it more than many others.

rgds/Cloughie 
 


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Red on July 28, 2017, 05:32:24 PM
I remember the Sky special on him (about 2 minutes long) prior to a Hatton fight, saying they'd probably meet down the line.

Watched all his fights, loved his early welter run against Quintana, Judah, Mosely - all dangerous for him but he won.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Boeing787 on July 28, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
ah.....Cotto. what an advert for the sport this fighter has been.

privileged to have been at MSG for Cotto-Paulie at 140

they should have made Hatton-Cotto @ 140 after that - what a fight that would have been

saw Cotto-Jennings @ MSG

with living in U.S for those years i saw all his fights on HBO. the Torres fight as nuts.

he was my fighter. i loved his stalking style, center of the ring, banging away, what KO power this guy had.

Faulkner and me enjoyed an interesting night at MSG for the Jennings fight. the way he dismantled Jennings was almost polite. that liver body shot and to see Jennings legs wobble about 2 seconds later - brave lad was Jennings.

that being said, being at the MGM in Nov 2009 to see the Roid-Head destroy him broke my heart.

you could see the hurt in him, given all the Ricans in attendance - you know he was utterly ashamed to have lost, but in reality he had nothing to be ashamed of at all.

whatever happens from this point on, if its a pay day then this guy has deserved it more than many others.

rgds/Cloughie 
 

"Roid head" ..... someone's bitter

Got beat up by the better fighter


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Faulks on July 28, 2017, 06:57:03 PM
"Roid head" ..... someone's bitter

Got beat up by the better fighter

Disagree here I'm afraid I'm firmly in the PAC was juicing camp


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Gaz on July 28, 2017, 07:13:34 PM
That Pacquiao beating was horrible to watch but the Margarito one was just as bad if not worse. Glad he got his revenge for that one even if Margarito was compromised with the eye.

Think the Torres fight was the first Cotto fight I ever saw, unbelievable fight. I remember staying up for Cotto-Paulie, wasn't Hopkins-Tarver on the same night?

Hard to give him too much credit for the wins against the likes of Sergio Martinez and Daniel Geale with the stages they were at in their careers. Cotto up to his last fight still looks very capable though at world level and I think a Brook fight could be pretty special to watch if it happens.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on July 29, 2017, 12:10:21 PM
I am not so sure Cotto wouldn't still have enough to beat Brook. I don't rate Brook that highly and his last fight showed he's struggling. This could actually be a Brook cash out fight rather than anything else.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: ScottMillwall on July 31, 2017, 12:02:51 PM
Cotto gets paid fantastically well fighting the likes of Kamegai. Why would he bother fighting someone like Brook? Makes no sense.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Faulks on July 31, 2017, 12:09:30 PM
Cotto gets paid fantastically well fighting the likes of Kamegai. Why would he bother fighting someone like Brook? Makes no sense.

Has his deal ran out? Is Jay Z still promoting?


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: ScottMillwall on July 31, 2017, 05:57:49 PM
Has his deal ran out? Is Jay Z still promoting?

Oh, if that's the case then my point is a load of bollocks! Not for the first time, ha.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: TC on August 01, 2017, 08:53:50 AM
For some reason I've never warmed to Cotto. I can't explain it cos he's a decent guy, exciting to watch, didn't really duck anyone and was in some great fights. Just never liked him really.

Great little pension fight for them both if this comes off. Just don't do it at Bramall Lane FFS.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: AO88 on August 01, 2017, 11:26:23 AM
The more he loses the bigger names Kell calls out it seems.

Cotto is very much on the decline now days. He's more a reminder of the previous generation of great light welter and welterweight fighters.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: The Hurricane on August 01, 2017, 12:12:44 PM
The more he loses the bigger names Kell calls out it seems.

Cotto is very much on the decline now days. He's more a reminder of the previous generation of great light welter and welterweight fighters.

It seems strange now to think back to a time when he and Hatton were contemporaries and could have met and made for a huge fight.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Driscoll on August 01, 2017, 12:42:47 PM
Brook has fallen so far in such a short space of time. Probably made a decent few quid but it cost him his career/legacy. He could've fought a Bradley, Garcia, a current PAC made just as much money and still been undefeated still with huge earning potential.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: AO88 on August 01, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
It seems strange now to think back to a time when he and Hatton were contemporaries and could have met and made for a huge fight.

Those for where the days for boxing. Sadly as like always some great fights never got made.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 01, 2017, 04:48:29 PM
Brook has fallen so far in such a short space of time. Probably made a decent few quid but it cost him his career/legacy. He could've fought a Bradley, Garcia, a current PAC made just as much money and still been undefeated still with huge earning potential.

I don't think he would have made as much fighting Bradley could have potentially lost which would have cost him as mentioned. I just get the impression his heart isn't in the sport anymore if it was he'd be rebuilding and looking to get back in contention rather than this sort of fight.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on August 04, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Cotto announced today his next fight is his last and he retires from boxing.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: wbamitch on August 04, 2017, 04:01:56 PM
I think it's a more winnable fight than the Spence fight but still a very risky one coming back off the 2 defeats. Cotto's fight with Canelo showed me he still has enough to offer to challenge most, I still rate Brook highly and probably just behind Spence in welterweights but he has to rebuild in my opinion, as mentioned previously in hindsight a fight against the recent version of Pac, Garcia, Bradley probably would have fared better for him, although he has a bit of work to do I am glad we got to see what I perceive as the 2 current best.

I'd like to see Cotto end on a big fight but I'm not sure about a Brook fight for both.


Title: Re: Brook wants Cotto fight
Post by: Faulks on August 04, 2017, 06:08:14 PM
Both looking to cash out let's be honest here