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Title: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: bigbibbs on October 07, 2017, 03:35:40 PM
Was just looking at the crolla burns fight tonight and my mind went off on one.
I was thinking of Scott harrison the last good fighter out of Scotland and world champion.
His career was ready to really go places and then the trouble started.
Do got me thinking about all the nearly men who never quite reached their potential. The ones that floundered their careers away and just wastage.

Who stands out for you gus


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Faulks on October 07, 2017, 03:40:35 PM
Was just looking at the crolla burns fight tonight and my mind went off on one.
I was thinking of Scott harrison the last good fighter out of Scotland and world champion.
His career was ready to really go places and then the trouble started.
Do got me thinking about all the nearly men who never quite reached their potential. The ones that floundered their careers away and just wastage.

Who stands out for you gus

Kev Mitchel ?


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: stinka on October 07, 2017, 03:43:13 PM
Jr witter, Zab Judah


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Gaz on October 07, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
Edwin Valero


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Faulks on October 07, 2017, 03:45:32 PM
Edwin Valero

Good call. Was an animal


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: bigbibbs on October 07, 2017, 03:58:51 PM
One as kelly pavlik who although got to the top never sustained it and in the one big fight blew it.

There was also henry Wharton who for his own bad luck came about in the hey day of Benn, eubank, reid and collins to name a few.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: mattbaker1510 on October 07, 2017, 05:43:22 PM
Tyson - could have been even more if he'd stayed focussed - would not have needed the "in his prime" debates


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: The Hurricane on October 07, 2017, 05:45:48 PM
Ike Ibrabuchi and Tony Ayala Jr are two that come to mind for me as well as Kirkland Laing.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Driscoll on October 07, 2017, 06:21:03 PM
Ike Ibrabuchi and Tony Ayala Jr are two that come to mind for me as well as Kirkland Laing.

Ike Ibeabuchi is a great shout. The stories people tell of him and his mental state are insane.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: stinka on October 07, 2017, 06:44:27 PM
Edwin Valero

Absolutely, horrible fker tho


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Gaz on October 07, 2017, 06:53:10 PM
Absolutely, horrible fker tho

27-0 with 27 ko's, on the cusp of becoming a major name in the sport, stories of him beating the crap out of illustrious names in sparring..........then goes and murders his wife and commits suicide.

It doesn't get any more spectacular as a wasted talent as far as I'm concerned. Feral human being and knowing all the stuff about him in hindsight, it was inevitable that it would end ugly for him. But what a story he was generating for himself at the time. He could well have been horribly exposed at the very elite level..OR....we'll just never know.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: jimjack on October 07, 2017, 08:35:51 PM
Kirkland Laing ... amazing talent, absolute waste of time.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Tim2366 on October 08, 2017, 12:14:26 PM
Currently Iíd say Fury....just think how big a fight with AJ would be if he didnít go off the rails.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Red on October 10, 2017, 04:51:25 PM
Scotland's had a few decent fighters that came short, Kevin Anderson was doing well - and his fight with Young Mutley was one of the best scraps I recall.

But then he lost his way, was defeated by McIntrye and then disappeared.

Willie Limmond came close to a massive upset with Khan and was very unlucky that night. Fought Morales etc.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Red on October 10, 2017, 04:54:39 PM
Yuri Romanov is name that sticks out for me.

He took apart Jon Thaxton at York Hall and looked world class.. then vanished for about 4 years, had a couple of fights then packed it in.

I remember when he was here the previous time, against Graham Earl - and he was robbed utterly blind. It was awful.

Perhaps he thought eff it.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: jaff_no1 on October 10, 2017, 08:25:02 PM
From these shores I would say naz as there is always a feeling of how much he could have achieved. Still think Hatton could have done more if he hadn't constantly ballooned in weight as well


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Tuco on October 10, 2017, 11:11:56 PM
Dmitry Pirog


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: Tito on October 11, 2017, 03:30:35 PM
I have 2 that crop up Paul Spadafora and Harry Simon . Spadafora was a bit of a animal wouldn't think twice of pulling a knife and a gun out to settle a argument and spent long terms in and out of prison. Add to the fact he was a big drinker and liked a line he wasted many years of his career away when he obviously had the talent to achieve far more than he had actually done. His fights with Manfredy and Dorin were very good in top shape he could have given anyone a real fight. He supposedly knocked Mayweather pillar to post in a few spar sessions one of which was on youtube.
Simon was another that wasted years when he was approaching the top of his career to F*ck it up and do prison sentences. He was very underrated and after speaking to Wayne Alexander once he told me Simon was a very good fighter who should have been amongst the elites. You know the guy had talent when he once beat Winky Wright and he last fought in 2016 aged 43 and he is still undefeated in 30 fights but he will never be in a position now to kick and fulfill that early promise he showed nearly 20 years ago.


Title: Re: WASTED TALENTS, NEARLY MEN AND CAREER WASTAGE
Post by: bigbibbs on October 13, 2017, 08:06:05 PM
Good shout I recall that fight with anderson it was a belter.
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Scotland's had a few decent fighters that came short, Kevin Anderson was doing well - and his fight with Young Mutley was one of the best scraps I recall.

But then he lost his way, was defeated by McIntrye and then disappeared.

Willie Limmond came close to a massive upset with Khan and was very unlucky that night. Fought Morales etc.