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Title: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on October 11, 2017, 10:09:31 AM
It looks like this fight is going to happen after Groves beats Cox ( most likely outcome ). Its clear to me a lot of what the Eubanks do and I'll include Snr in this is for show it's part of some sort of elaborate act. However its becoming clear Jnr is putting in the graft in the gym and has developed in to a really good boxer and his power looks to be developing.

This fight when it happens next year I think could end up being a classic I tend to think Jnr just has to much hand speed and at times great movement for George. What's everyones thoughts on the bout?


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Goldenboy87 on October 11, 2017, 10:20:42 AM
It looks like this fight is going to happen after Groves beats Cox ( most likely outcome ). Its clear to me a lot of what the Eubanks do and I'll include Snr in this is for show it's part of some sort of elaborate act. However its becoming clear Jnr is putting in the graft in the gym and has developed in to a really good boxer and his power looks to be developing.

This fight when it happens next year I think could end up being a classic I tend to think Jnr just has to much hand speed and at times great movement for George. What's everyones thoughts on the bout?

Eubank Jr has always been a very good fighter and inevitably in my mind will win a World Title no problem, just whether he can mix it with the elite fighters will be the big test for him.

Groves will be an excellent fight for him and the British Fight fans, so hoping Groves can come through the Cox fight personally.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: jaff_no1 on October 11, 2017, 10:24:41 AM
They are talking about Stamford Bridge in January, surely nobody thinks outside in January is a good idea.

I'm not convinced about Eubank Jnr's power. Saturday looked good but I'm not sure he was up against much. The Groves fight will tell us a lot more. Good fight that and then hopefully the winner v Callum Smith (who I think might be the weakest out the 3)


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Faulks on October 11, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
I think Groves loses to Eubank personally.

It wont be outdoors in Jan, not a chance in hell.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: legs on October 11, 2017, 12:10:25 PM
I agree Faulks this fight will take place at O2 Arena as both are from down that way  ;D

Not sure who wins this really Eubank is improving but that guy on Saturday was hopeless Groves will really test him and I look forward to it as it could be a classic


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 11, 2017, 02:34:29 PM
Good fight if Groves comes through Cox.  It will represent a big step up at 168 for Eubank Jr facing a live world level fighter who is natural at the weight and won't be stood there in front of him.

I'm sure this will do decent numbers for tickets but imagine that if they had done both Eubank and Groves quarter final fights free to air they'd have drawn in a lot more PPV buys for this.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Tuco on October 11, 2017, 10:47:39 PM
Great fight.....Eubank has too much speed too much chin and I'd bet a much better gas tank.

Eubank via decision. Cracking fight though


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 12, 2017, 07:41:26 AM
Great fight.....Eubank has too much speed too much chin and I'd bet a much better gas tank.

Eubank via decision. Cracking fight though

I wouldn't be so certain on the gas tank aspect.  Don't forget how he fought against BJS and since then he has only had to fight at his own pace against guys who were never going to be able to hit him as hard as Groves will.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Faulks on October 12, 2017, 08:18:51 AM
I wouldn't be so certain on the gas tank aspect.  Don't forget how he fought against BJS and since then he has only had to fight at his own pace against guys who were never going to be able to hit him as hard as Groves will.

Does Groves not tend to flag back end of fights? Or would you say it was just against Carl/ inexperience/gassed a little


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 12, 2017, 08:32:08 AM
Does Groves not tend to flag back end of fights? Or would you say it was just against Carl/ inexperience/gassed a little

I don't think that Groves has the best stamina going, I'm just not convinced that Eubank Jr's is any better given how much he held himself back against BJS.  Maybe the extra weight will help Eubank a little but he never seemed massive at 160.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Tim2366 on October 12, 2017, 10:55:20 AM
There’s been question marks over both guys has tanks....can only see this being a great fight though. Hopefully it comes off.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: bigbibbs on October 12, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
Is groves getting past cox? That's what I want to know.
Cox has excellent hand sped and power so it's not a done deal yet.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Driscoll on October 12, 2017, 05:35:02 PM
Is groves getting past cox? That's what I want to know.
Cox has excellent hand sped and power so it's not a done deal yet.

This is true


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 12, 2017, 05:36:49 PM
Is groves getting past cox? That's what I want to know.
Cox has excellent hand sped and power so it's not a done deal yet.

Who’s he shown this speed and power against though? Groves was having harder tests inside 5 fights than Cox has to date.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Goldenboy87 on October 13, 2017, 08:11:27 AM
Who’s he shown this speed and power against though? Groves was having harder tests inside 5 fights than Cox has to date.

Agreed, Jamie Cox has literally not fought anyone worth mentioning so far. Just literally skipped straight past British & European level to fight one of the best Super Middleweights in the World.

Just don't see anything other than a stoppage win for Groves myself.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Red on October 13, 2017, 08:51:42 AM
Groves is a favourite for sure, but Cox can dig and George has been close to getting dusted against many opponents.

If he takes Jamie lightly, and makes a mistake - it could become very interesting.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Tim2366 on October 13, 2017, 11:10:37 AM
Who’s he shown this speed and power against though? Groves was having harder tests inside 5 fights than Cox has to date.

Let’s be fair though, Groves resume wasnt great when he stepped in with Froch first time around but he lit him up for a good portion of that fight.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 13, 2017, 11:12:45 AM
Let’s be fair though, Groves resume wasnt great when he stepped in with Froch first time around but he lit him up for a good portion of that fight.

He'd already faced Adamu, Anderson DeGale, Smith and Johnson - basically Murderers Row compared to who Cox has faced.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: bigbibbs on October 13, 2017, 07:59:54 PM
I remember a cert average joe going in against eubank not having really fought anyone outstanding.
Look what happened when the Carrot was dangled for World honours.
If cox has fought nobody why is he in the mix


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: willlywalllly on October 14, 2017, 12:03:18 AM
we all love george groves  8)


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Tim2366 on October 14, 2017, 12:36:31 AM
He'd already faced Adamu, Anderson DeGale, Smith and Johnson - basically Murderers Row compared to who Cox has faced.

Not sure the likes of Degale and Smith were fighting any better opposition then Cox at the time Groves beat them.....Johnson was half dead when he got in with Groves.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
They were both current or former British champions when he fought them and DeGale is now proven world class and Smith a world title challenger. Johnson was only a couple of fights out of the Super Six and still giving guys a test.

Cox’s last two opponents have 36 losses between them.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Tim2366 on October 14, 2017, 09:09:54 AM
They were both current or former British champions when he fought them and DeGale is now proven world class and Smith a world title challenger. Johnson was only a couple of fights out of the Super Six and still giving guys a test.

Cox’s last two opponents have 36 losses between them.

British Champion is hardly a claim to fame. This is a big step up for Cox but Froch was a big step up for Groves. Cox could cause him some problems regardless of how poor his resume is.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 10:53:37 AM
Pretty sure British Champion is a decent claim to fame. It doesn’t make you a world beater but it’s a good level to have reached.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Driscoll on October 14, 2017, 11:53:05 AM
Degale has also won an Olympic gold and was quite a heavy favourite against Groves.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 07:27:00 PM
Lively card so far this. Filthy from Adolphe there. And good KO by Thomas in the fight before.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
Cox is 25/1 to be DQ’d as well which isn’t bad considering what form he has for fouling.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: wbamitch on October 14, 2017, 07:36:45 PM
Anticipated this potential semi final after the draw was made, very big fight that I've noted as one I would like to attend, hope Groves comes through tonight impressively.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 07:41:24 PM
Some cracking KO’s happening tonight.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 08:19:34 PM
I wasn’t over the moon at this being PPV but this has easily been worth a tenner. Another brilliant stoppage by Ryder there.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
It was levels all night long. Commentators seemed to be ignoring all of Groves clean punches. Eubanks face after the body shot was a picture.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: legs on October 14, 2017, 10:05:50 PM
It was a good fight as both came to fight I felt Groves would catch him with one as Cox just kept walking in.

Not sure how much Groves has in the tank though I think Eubank Jnr and Groves is going to be a cracker too.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 14, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
If ITV had put both Groves and Eubank on free to air for their quarters they’d have been raking it in for the fight between them in this series on PPV.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Goldenboy87 on October 14, 2017, 11:05:59 PM
As expected Groves just on a different level to Cox. Fighting nobody prior to this fight doesn’t help Cox, just not even challenged himself.

Groves was beating very good fighters in his 8th/9th fight and Cox has fought nobody at all.

Anyway excellent fight lined up between Groves and Eubank Jr


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on October 15, 2017, 06:02:38 AM
If ITV had put both Groves and Eubank on free to air for their quarters they’d have been raking it in for the fight between them in this series on PPV.

I can't argue with you however there is a thought they have already put on good shows that's costing fans a tenner now people are used to paying they will likely pay more for the bigger fight. I think its also great to see someone finally challenging Sky in regard to PPV.

The fight is on and I fully expect it to be a classic if its fought at pace I think it will suit Eubank Jnr more George always looks to slow things down and box at range.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: willlywalllly on October 15, 2017, 07:43:33 AM
can see it been a classic. the kind of fight where they will bring the best out of each other


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Faulks on October 15, 2017, 10:07:40 AM
Be half tempted to go to this when there's a date time announced.

Expensive trip down London for the weekend but this one will warrant it


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: jaff_no1 on October 15, 2017, 12:13:48 PM
I went to Wembley for this last night. Tickets were reasonably priced and got hotel near arena so no transport issues

John Ryder looked brilliant last night. Really good display. Why the ref didn't step in before the final 2 shots I don't know. He was out on his feet with his hands down

Groves looked a level above Cox which I think everyone knew going in but Cox gave it a real go. I thought the production was spot on from being bang on at 10pm to letting everyone know how long until it started

There was so many fights in the crowd. We got in just before the Ryder fight and counted 6 fights. We missed groves ko as we had to move out the way of the fight in the seats next to us and directly behind that must have involved 20 people. Security was very good in getting involved quickly

I hope they keep the Eubanks fight there and don't try for a stadium fight in January


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 15, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
Seems like a ridiculous weekend for fights in crowds. Apparently a guy was stabbed to death at a show in Walsall.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Tim2366 on October 15, 2017, 10:06:25 PM
Seems like a ridiculous weekend for fights in crowds. Apparently a guy was stabbed to death at a show in Walsall.

Just seen this, I use to work at the venue specifically for a couple of Frank W***** cards.

It’s not just the boxing crowds either, few mates were to cage warrior in Wales over weekend and they say that was just as bad.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Red on October 16, 2017, 07:04:39 AM
I went to Wembley for this last night. Tickets were reasonably priced and got hotel near arena so no transport issues

John Ryder looked brilliant last night. Really good display. Why the ref didn't step in before the final 2 shots I don't know. He was out on his feet with his hands down

Groves looked a level above Cox which I think everyone knew going in but Cox gave it a real go. I thought the production was spot on from being bang on at 10pm to letting everyone know how long until it started

There was so many fights in the crowd. We got in just before the Ryder fight and counted 6 fights. We missed groves ko as we had to move out the way of the fight in the seats next to us and directly behind that must have involved 20 people. Security was very good in getting involved quickly

I hope they keep the Eubanks fight there and don't try for a stadium fight in January

The fights at shows lately is bordering the ridiculous.

I saw plenty of videos of it on twitter etc, complete arseholes with a pack mentality whom wouldn’t do half of that if on their own.

The coke & side-parting posse in their Zara jackets.

Sheep.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: jaff_no1 on October 16, 2017, 07:59:13 AM
The fights at shows lately is bordering the ridiculous.

I saw plenty of videos of it on twitter etc, complete arseholes with a pack mentality whom wouldn’t do half of that if on their own.

The coke & side-parting posse in their Zara jackets.

Sheep.
That was exactly who started the major trouble on Saturday. Spilling beer on people and generally mouthing off. A couple of them did take a bit of pasting Saturday night. There was a bloke with his lad who was around 16 I would imagine who just managed to get out of the way. Women were also caught up in some of it as well


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Driscoll on October 16, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
It won’t be long before alcohol is banned at the bigger shows.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 16, 2017, 08:37:38 AM
It won’t be long before alcohol is banned at the bigger shows.

I remember for a long time that you couldn't take a beer into the actual arena.  I can see it either going back to that (which isn't great as people just stay on the concourse drinking until the main event) or just banned as you say.  It would be a shame that a handful of idiots are ruining the nights of the vast majority who can have a beer and still behave themselves.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: jaff_no1 on October 16, 2017, 08:49:58 AM
I remember for a long time that you couldn't take a beer into the actual arena.  I can see it either going back to that (which isn't great as people just stay on the concourse drinking until the main event) or just banned as you say.  It would be a shame that a handful of idiots are ruining the nights of the vast majority who can have a beer and still behave themselves.
Problem is it isn't just alcohol. Its amazing how many people were queing for the toilet cubicles Saturday night

They haven't even managed to control smoking in arena's 10 years after the smoking ban either


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on October 16, 2017, 09:14:26 AM
Problem is it isn't just alcohol. Its amazing how many people were queing for the toilet cubicles Saturday night

They haven't even managed to control smoking in arena's 10 years after the smoking ban either

Very true.  Every time you go to the gents at a big show you are at risk of lung cancer.

I remember them having sniffer dogs at Frampton v Quigg but at a lot of big shows searches are cursory at best.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: lurkyshaka on October 16, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
Basically dickheads who can't really give a shit about the sport are f*cking it up for the real fans.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: jaff_no1 on October 16, 2017, 09:35:48 AM
Very true.  Every time you go to the gents at a big show you are at risk of lung cancer.

I remember them having sniffer dogs at Frampton v Quigg but at a lot of big shows searches are cursory at best.
At a Froch fight at Nottingham once there was a big cloud of smoke coming from the gents toilets. Security ignored it all night. When I was having a beer on the concourse, 4 security guards marched into the ladies toilet and kicked one woman out for smoking in the ladies. I am surprised the arena's haven't clamped down on this due to the fines they could face

Brook v GGG they had sniffer dogs on and I did see them stop a few but when we see someone live on Sky taking coke at ringside the week before last it is clearly a big problem


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Faulks on October 16, 2017, 11:03:16 AM
Very true.  Every time you go to the gents at a big show you are at risk of lung cancer.

I remember them having sniffer dogs at Frampton v Quigg but at a lot of big shows searches are cursory at best.

Sniffer dogs are for show, unless your carring a bag of weed in your pocket then they are crap.

Ive been to may a festival and witnessed very few people stopped by these dogs. They're meary there to show 'effort' on the premises part.

Obviously dogs play a huge part in the combat against Drugs but... There a huge difference between 20 kg in  container and half a g in someones pocket.

Its got to the point now where i dont want to take the missis to shows for fear of kicking off, i can look after myself if need be. can always walk away but if someone hurts your missis in anyway then its a different story.

Its a UK thing, ive been to shows in the States, small and huge and you dont get this shit. Puts you off going 


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Tim2366 on October 16, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
Problem is it isn't just alcohol. Its amazing how many people were queing for the toilet cubicles Saturday night

They haven't even managed to control smoking in arena's 10 years after the smoking ban either

All about the dollars mate, maximum alcohol consumption with minimal spend on security and police. Good for business bad for everything else.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on November 21, 2017, 03:36:24 PM
Looks like it will be 17th February 2018 at Manchester Arena.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: bigbibbs on November 21, 2017, 08:26:34 PM
I shit myself just reading through some posts thought for a moment I was reading groves v eubank fight wow.
Then I thought no way this could be on so soon.
Can't wait to see the fight though.
I agree with earlier comments they should have built this super series up a lot more. I am completely underwhelmed at the promotion of the whole event. I've had a lot going on recently but not seen much at all on it


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on November 22, 2017, 09:45:39 PM
Both fighters from London, put the fight on in MCR. Baffling.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on November 22, 2017, 10:25:26 PM
Both fighters from London, put the fight on in MCR. Baffling.

Eubank is from Brighton. It’s a decent enough fight to sell there regardless much like Froch v Groves did.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: The Hurricane on November 23, 2017, 01:29:21 PM
Tickets go on sale at 9am Tuesday via Eventim.


Title: Re: Chris Eubank Jnr Vs George Groves
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on November 23, 2017, 05:55:50 PM
This is a great fight to start 2018 with. I can't wait.