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Title: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: The Hurricane on December 08, 2017, 11:21:22 AM
Another weekend with a lot going on and Loma v Rigo is obviously the big one.

Stephen Smith is fighting Vargas on the Salido v Roman undercard which seems to have largely gone under the radar but is being shown on Sky.  Also on that card is Tevin Farmer v Kenichi Ogawa.  Ogawa is 10/1 for the win and 33/1 to win on points.  It's a bit of a punt but those odds look way too long to me so I've had a few quid on both.

It's hard to get much excitement about the BN card in the evening but Yarde is fighting Sjekloca on it and that might give a better idea of where he is at compared to his previous fights.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Red on December 09, 2017, 03:02:15 PM
Looking forward to the big one.

Forecast a chess match though..


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on December 09, 2017, 08:31:26 PM
Yarde looking very good. Fast powerful fighter.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: The Hurricane on December 09, 2017, 08:36:41 PM
Even though Sjekloca isnít a natural 175 fighter it was still impressive of Yarde to stop him in four rounds given the guys heís gone the distance with in the past.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on December 09, 2017, 08:38:14 PM
His power and speed are very good so is his ability to find the leverage for the shots. He's got it all this lad could go right to the top. Might get to big for the weight.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: jaff_no1 on December 09, 2017, 09:10:56 PM
What does everyone think of Daniel Dubois so far?


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on December 09, 2017, 09:13:01 PM
What does everyone think of Daniel Dubois so far?

Has he been on if he has I missed him.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: The Hurricane on December 09, 2017, 09:17:06 PM
His power and speed are very good so is his ability to find the leverage for the shots. He's got it all this lad could go right to the top. Might get to big for the weight.

Thereís a lot to look like but I think heíll be lucky to get a world title. Heís in one of the most stacked divisions in the sport and everyone up there has serious power.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: The Hurricane on December 09, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
What does everyone think of Daniel Dubois so far?

Looks good for such a young guy but always hard to really tell until heís up against a stiffer test. Hopefully the Gorman fight gets made as that will be a better indicator.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on December 09, 2017, 09:29:06 PM
Thereís a lot to look like but I think heíll be lucky to get a world title. Heís in one of the most stacked divisions in the sport and everyone up there has serious power.

Its a stacked division no doubt probably the best in boxing right now. However I reckon this kid has it all. Yarde was a little easy to hit tonight but seemed unfazed. Once he fights more during 2018 he'll develop further.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Chatham Dan on December 09, 2017, 09:32:07 PM
Does anyone know what time we can expect loma rigo ring walk?


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: legs on December 09, 2017, 09:45:27 PM
Not sure iíll be up for Loma v Rigo anyone know the time itís on tomorrow morning on BN ?

Selby not looking too good tonight but he will win UD


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 09, 2017, 10:33:11 PM
DeGale looks awful


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: legs on December 09, 2017, 10:36:20 PM
Agreed Driscoll he took a beating in 5th round id say its level after 6


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 09, 2017, 10:42:50 PM
Heís still probably come out of this with the win but this is a terrible performance and could be signs that the Badou Jack fight took too much out of him and his best days are behind him.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: jaff_no1 on December 09, 2017, 10:43:42 PM
Degale looks terrible. Can certainly see him losing this. No jab at all.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: mooreman on December 09, 2017, 10:48:47 PM
Woodhall is giving him rounds for standing there. Shite biased commentary.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: legs on December 09, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
Agreed Degale could lose this one its very tight


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: legs on December 09, 2017, 10:53:46 PM
Dave Parrish a judge so that will be interesting haha


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 09, 2017, 10:54:20 PM
DeGale wonít lose this on the cards. No way.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: mooreman on December 09, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
Lads, there's only one winner here. I've degale at least three or four down. He's done nothing and has taken huge shots.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: mooreman on December 09, 2017, 11:04:12 PM
Right result. Parris is a disease, glad he's done now.

Woodhall made a show of himself down the stretch. Gave Degale a few rounds when he was getting hammered. Shameful commentary.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: legs on December 09, 2017, 11:04:35 PM
Parish not as bad as i thought but i think Degale did lose not fast or good enough


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 09, 2017, 11:04:46 PM
A little faith restored in boxing judging


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: thejudge on December 09, 2017, 11:14:41 PM
Right result. Parris is a disease, glad he's done now.

Woodhall made a show of himself down the stretch. Gave Degale a few rounds when he was getting hammered. Shameful commentary.

Woodhall hit new lows in commentary standards tonight. Praising DeGaleís work when he was swinging and missing and giving him rounds when he done next to nowt was truly awful.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: The Hurricane on December 09, 2017, 11:20:41 PM
DeGale looked awful even before he got caught in the fifth. Glad the result went the right way. DeGale was backing up on the ropes way too much like he was post the Groves loss. He was lucky he wasnít in the WBSS boxing like that.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on December 10, 2017, 04:08:15 AM
Decent enough opening hard to tell who's getting the edge pretty even stuff.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 10, 2017, 04:17:14 AM
Disappointing from Rigo so far. Already looking like a fighter whoís just trying to hang in there .


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: mooreman on December 10, 2017, 04:31:02 AM
Horrendous


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on December 10, 2017, 04:31:43 AM
What an utter awful fight what an awful result what a waste of time.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 10, 2017, 04:32:54 AM
**Spoiler**












Frustrated is an understatement. Rigo stank the place out from the start and then quit when it werenít going his way. Couldíve and shouldíve been such a great fight turned into one of the worst Iíve ever seen.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Chris on December 10, 2017, 04:33:40 AM
What a let down. Waited years to See Rigondeux in a fight like this.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: jorg21 on December 10, 2017, 04:40:32 AM
Awful fight, First round both were feeling each other out but as the rounds went on Rigo just buckled under the pressure from Loma.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Faulks on December 10, 2017, 05:10:20 AM
Wtf happened to smith? Looks like heís been in with mike t


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: The Hurricane on December 10, 2017, 09:44:15 AM
Anyone get on Ogawa?


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 10, 2017, 10:37:06 AM
George Groves teeet to Degale was superb  ;D


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Chris on December 10, 2017, 11:37:31 AM
George Groves teeet to Degale was superb  ;D

Bit snidey wasn't it.

Considering the Degale fight against Jack, it's a very disappointing result, as that was a great fight, and Jack is very good.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: lurkyshaka on December 10, 2017, 01:13:21 PM
Loma/Rigo


Very disappointing fight, Rigo made a decision to call time on the fight rather than suffer the indignity of losing embarrassingly widely on the cards. He wasn't getting hurt, he wasn't taking many punches himself, but he wasn't winning anything and he was struggling to land his big left hand which was imperative to him.

Sounds utterly ridiculous to question his heart after so many years of success in the ring, but he certainly didn't go do or die in there. His back wasn't up against the wall, he didn't allow the wall to get even close. But he was undersized and against someone as gifted as Loma it mattered. A tactical retreat really. But such a disappointment though there was always a possibility it'd fail to deliver.

Truax/Degale

Sad night in that Degale lost to a guy who'd not even have troubled him a few fights back. It appeared like he's got a bum shoulder, whether that was a mental block or whether physical only he knows. He said he felt no pain, but he wasn't throwing it so something wasn't right....but if he can't punch properly with the right hand then he's reached the end of the line.

It was close'ish because Truax is so unremarkable and Degale was able to flurry at times to keep it in the balance, but overall Truax was trying to win whilst Degale was trying not to lose so the right decision. He said afterwards that he wants the rematch but needs to address issues within his camp....not sure what that means but it might be too late anyway if he can't commit to his right hand anymore.

If and its a big 'IF' his shoulder is okay going forward, then he certainly has the beating of Truax and there are still plenty of attractive British options for him against Groves/Eubank/Smith. He's still in a good position to fight the Super series winner because they'll be looking for a big name opponent and all of them will see him as an easyish mark after watching him last night. But he'd be a fool to continue with his career if he would be doing so in essence handicapped, guess we'll find out soon what he intends to do. Thought Groves tweets were very c*ntish tbh. Retweeting Jack was fairly pathetic really.

Farmer/Ogawa

Farmer was robbed blind, nothing much else to say. The Japanese fighter was tough and could see he had the potential to be dangerous if allowed to get into his groove. But Farmer just outskilled and outslicked him and was ripped off by horrendous judging. The sport is being destroyed by these decisions.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: jimjack on December 10, 2017, 01:59:05 PM
Loma/Rigo


Very disappointing fight, Rigo made a decision to call time on the fight rather than suffer the indignity of losing embarrassingly widely on the cards. He wasn't getting hurt, he wasn't taking many punches himself, but he wasn't winning anything and he was struggling to land his big left hand which was imperative to him.

Sounds utterly ridiculous to question his heart after so many years of success in the ring, but he certainly didn't go do or die in there. His back wasn't up against the wall, he didn't allow the wall to get even close. But he was undersized and against someone as gifted as Loma it mattered. A tactical retreat really. But such a disappointment though there was always a possibility it'd fail to deliver.

Truax/Degale

Sad night in that Degale lost to a guy who'd not even have troubled him a few fights back. It appeared like he's got a bum shoulder, whether that was a mental block or whether physical only he knows. He said he felt no pain, but he wasn't throwing it so something wasn't right....but if he can't punch properly with the right hand then he's reached the end of the line.

It was close'ish because Truax is so unremarkable and Degale was able to flurry at times to keep it in the balance, but overall Truax was trying to win whilst Degale was trying not to lose so the right decision. He said afterwards that he wants the rematch but needs to address issues within his camp....not sure what that means but it might be too late anyway if he can't commit to his right hand anymore.

If and its a big 'IF' his shoulder is okay going forward, then he certainly has the beating of Truax and there are still plenty of attractive British options for him against Groves/Eubank/Smith. He's still in a good position to fight the Super series winner because they'll be looking for a big name opponent and all of them will see him as an easyish mark after watching him last night. But he'd be a fool to continue with his career if he would be doing so in essence handicapped, guess we'll find out soon what he intends to do. Thought Groves tweets were very c*ntish tbh. Retweeting Jack was fairly pathetic really.

Farmer/Ogawa

Farmer was robbed blind, nothing much else to say. The Japanese fighter was tough and could see he had the potential to be dangerous if allowed to get into his groove. But Farmer just outskilled and outslicked him and was ripped off by horrendous judging. The sport is being destroyed by these decisions.

Watched the farmer fight this morning and once the last bell went I didnít wait to listen to the cwrdscas it was such a formality... how on Earth they gave that to the Japanese kid is beyond me, he won a couple of rds at best. Horrible result.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: The Hurricane on December 13, 2017, 08:54:07 PM
Judges will probably score this 60-54 to Benn if it goes the distance.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 14, 2017, 08:49:39 PM
Judges will probably score this 60-54 to Benn if it goes the distance.

Just watched it, the commentating or should I say cheerleading is sickening.



Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: dmp on December 14, 2017, 10:06:31 PM
what cheerleading do you mean just curious
they had it a draw which was about right


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 15, 2017, 06:08:48 AM
what cheerleading do you mean just curious
they had it a draw which was about right

Through the fight, originally calling the second knockdown a trip, over emphasizing evenrything Benn did, constant references to his Dad. Reaching for any praise they could give so it didnít look as bad as it was.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: jimjack on December 15, 2017, 07:49:30 AM
Through the fight, originally calling the second knockdown a trip, over emphasizing evenrything Benn did, constant references to his Dad. Reaching for any praise they could give so it didnít look as bad as it was.

I thought Benn did well to be honest mate.
He didnít fight well obviously but showed massive heart to stay with it and force the decision.
Brilliant scrap.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Dexter_Morgan on December 15, 2017, 08:32:56 PM
Anyone watching the BJS fight this weekend?


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: lurkyshaka on December 15, 2017, 09:43:47 PM
I thought Benn did well to be honest mate.
He didnít fight well obviously but showed massive heart to stay with it and force the decision.
Brilliant scrap.

He certainly proved he's not just a silver spoon job who'd fold when the opposition started punching back. He might have been born into the wealth his dad earned, but he's got the same type of fighting heart. Had to will his way back into that fight when he looked booked for defeat. Fought like sh*t but showed a lot of bottle and desire.

I think a rematch is relevant in the New Year. Chance to do the job properly and certainly the other fella deserves another crack himself after his effort.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Driscoll on December 16, 2017, 09:32:42 AM
I thought Benn did well to be honest mate.
He didnít fight well obviously but showed massive heart to stay with it and force the decision.
Brilliant scrap.

The problems not really with Benn. He was under par but he grafted his way through it. I liked his honesty afterwards as well. It was the commentary through the fight I didnít like.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: wbamitch on December 16, 2017, 09:31:14 PM
Obviously haven't posted yet on last week, the fight unfortunately hugely underwhelmed and has put more of a bad look on Rigo than he got already, probably deserved this time round. He could still come back and probably beat the top names at super bantam and featherweight but I'm just not so sure he gets those opportunites after this showing. Loma was himself and by that I mean great, dazzled Rigo and puts himself at the top of p4p for me. This guy is unbelievable and as said beforehand I will always look forward to a fight involving him. I  was just expecting more of an effort from Rigo which in what was one of his first and probably last chances to really shine. Unfortunately I just can't help being dissapointed in what transpired which is why I haven't rushed to watch it back or comment on the fight, maybe I will be able to appreciate it more second time around, just one of those occasions in boxing where it falls below expectations, which were very high for this.

Degale was a huge let down, he chose and underestimated his opponent, set for a blowout really. Even before the absolute nightmare of a fifth round, he was really off. James has been making quick starts in a fair few of his fights and you thought he would do that Saturday and that would be enough to end the fight, usually he does fade late on but it was just horrible right the way through. I thought he might have done enough to scrape a draw but nothing more than that, if anyone was to win it was definately Truax. You would like this to be a wake up call as he can be so much better but like many I do doubt whether he will come back. Shock of the year maybe?? Certainly up there.






Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: jimjack on December 16, 2017, 11:38:03 PM
The problems not really with Benn. He was under par but he grafted his way through it. I liked his honesty afterwards as well. It was the commentary through the fight I didnít like.

Agree mate, commentary is always dire when eddies boys are involved.


Title: Re: Weekend's Boxing 09.12.17
Post by: Faulks on December 18, 2017, 09:09:06 AM
It was a masterful perfomance by Loma, If Rigo had been winning i'd bet money his injury wouldnt of stopped him.