Skillz_that_killz
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« on: August 23, 2010, 04:56:39 PM » |
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i heard ray leonard refused to fight pryor on a couple of occasions and my dad reckons he even moved up a division to avoid him... was leonard really that intimidated by aaron pryor? i find it hard to believe that a guy that got in the ring with hagler, hearns and duran would be intimidated by anybody? does anyone know more on this??
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« on: August 23, 2010, 04:56:39 PM » |
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dallykint
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 05:33:53 PM » |
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No,he wasn't.This myth was created from a clip of Aaron Pryor interrupting a Leonard press conference in the 'Legendary nights:Arguello vs Pryor' episode
Ray Leonard was a welterweight,the biggest star in the sport,and Pryor a Junior welterweight,not ranked in Leonard's weight class and still unknown to the masses.Despite this,an offer was made to Pryor,and a career high purse at that.Pryor turned it down as he thought it wasn't enough.
The legendary night series was a good watch,but take such claims made with a pinch of salt.They have to sell the product,even if it means using the odd hyperbole,half truth and sometimes blatant lie.The entire series is packed full of them.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 05:43:44 PM » |
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Leonard never avoided anyone in his prime.
Silly speculation really. It's like Leonard saying I'll fight Thomas Hearns and Roberto Duran but not Aaron Pryor. If Leonard was chicken why fight people like Hearns and Duran?
I think as Dally said, there was a small window of time to make the fight happen but it didn't come off.
Would of been a fantastic fight but it certainly wasn't Leonard avoiding Pryor.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 07:18:06 PM » |
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It was just one of them fights that was never going to happen.
I wouldn't say Leonard was scared of Pryor either, but it was more circumstantial why this didnt happen.
Pryor was a brilliant fighter, and was avoided by a lot of fighters but Leonard wasn't one of them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 07:46:16 PM » |
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Pryor's prime was cut short due to his penchant for shoving white powder up his hooter. Combined with Leonard's stop/start career during the mid-80's there was always a bigger money fight around for Leonard.
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2010, 09:03:41 AM » |
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Not at all.
The man fought Hagler at middleweight - that should suggest he feared no fighter.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 07:53:54 AM » |
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absolute nonsense
Ray would of destroyed Pryor
Pryor was good but apart from Arguello and Cervantes he was relatively untested
when you compare that to Sugar Ray who fought the likes of Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Shields, i find the original point of this thread ridiculous
Sugar Ray stops Pryor, the only thing Pryor had going for him against a fighter like Ray would of been the one punch power, but it would of been pretty useless against Ray's slick style
Sugar Ray by mid round stoppage
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Tomatron
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2010, 10:25:29 AM » |
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absolute nonsense
Ray would of destroyed Pryor
Pryor was good but apart from Arguello and Cervantes he was relatively untested
when you compare that to Sugar Ray who fought the likes of Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Benitez, Shields, i find the original point of this thread ridiculous
Sugar Ray stops Pryor, the only thing Pryor had going for him against a fighter like Ray would of been the one punch power, but it would of been pretty useless against Ray's slick style
Sugar Ray by mid round stoppage
Not sure myself personally. You are right i don't believe Leonard was scared of Pryor. But you also said Pryor was reasonably untested and i think would have given Leonard, Hearns all they could handle. I certainly don't see Leonard in a completely different league to Pryor. I think Pryor is a hard match for any fighter, and i think Ray would agree that it would not be an easy fight. Pryor was his own worst enemy with his weird training regime, his drug problems, and his strange personality. But Pryor was definately a handful for any opponent, i think Ray would have won, but i personally do not see mid fight stoppage. Also depends which Leonard we are talking about, the one which fights Hearns and Duran had a chance of stoppage, but the one who fought Hagler has absolutely no chance of stopping Pryor. But Pryor did have a good chin, and a good heart so i think points would be the accurate assessment of the fight. It could have been a classic fight, but Pryor and Leonard never showed any desire for the fight. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 02:05:23 AM » |
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Not sure myself personally.
You are right i don't believe Leonard was scared of Pryor.
But you also said Pryor was reasonably untested and i think would have given Leonard, Hearns all they could handle. I certainly don't see Leonard in a completely different league to Pryor. I think Pryor is a hard match for any fighter, and i think Ray would agree that it would not be an easy fight.
Pryor was his own worst enemy with his weird training regime, his drug problems, and his strange personality. But Pryor was definately a handful for any opponent, i think Ray would have won, but i personally do not see mid fight stoppage. Also depends which Leonard we are talking about, the one which fights Hearns and Duran had a chance of stoppage, but the one who fought Hagler has absolutely no chance of stopping Pryor. But Pryor did have a good chin, and a good heart so i think points would be the accurate assessment of the fight.
It could have been a classic fight, but Pryor and Leonard never showed any desire for the fight.
nice post mate, pretty much my thinking and yes, i was talking about a prime Leonard, i believe he would have stopped a prime Aaron Pryor would of been a nice name to have on the resume as well |
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 11:16:20 AM » |
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leonard couldnt have held up under pryors non-stop pressure :
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 01:31:22 PM » |
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leonard couldnt have held up under pryors non-stop pressure :
Leonard was as fit as they came, faster and more accurate than Pryor. Look at what Ray did to Benitez. He was a prime, two weight world champion that couldn't touch the younger, greener Leonard. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 06:53:18 PM » |
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Leonard was not scared of anyone... the man fought Duran, Hearns, Hagler... all guys who could have knocked him clean out... do you really think he was scared of Pryor? Taking nothing away from Pryor... an ATG, but to suggest Leonard was scared of Pryor... no way.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2011, 08:23:32 AM » |
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Of course he wasn't scared of Aaron Pryor he fought some of the biggest punchers of that era. Pryor was a top drawer fighter but his career was short lived at the top. I think after Kostya Tszyu he probably is one of the best LWW of all time and a fighter who Floyd Mayweather Jr says was his idol growing up.
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