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« on: July 10, 2009, 09:57:07 AM » |
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can anyone help me with my btec work for school be very much appreciated ive done all earlier history, just need to know of any major changes from 1900 onwards
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« on: July 10, 2009, 09:57:07 AM » |
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 10:48:33 AM » |
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What is the work specifically about? Just boxing in general or is it more specialised. From 1900 on there have been a huge amount of differnces both in the rules, weights, styles and organisation/culture/media of boxing.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 10:55:58 AM » |
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Off the top of my head, you have the change of maximum number of rounds from 15 to 12 following the death of Duk Koo Kim.
The introduction, and proliferation of, governing bodies. A boxer having to go to a neutral corner after knocking an opponent down and the introduction of the standing eight count.
Also in America, the law changed in some States (I think post 1900) meaning that decisions in boxing matches could be given leading to the end of the 'newspaper decision'.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 11:05:10 AM » |
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Off the top of my head, you have the change of maximum number of rounds from 15 to 12 following the death of Duk Koo Kim.
The introduction, and proliferation of, governing bodies. A boxer having to go to a neutral corner after knocking an opponent down and the introduction of the standing eight count.
Also in America, the law changed in some States (I think post 1900) meaning that decisions in boxing matches could be given leading to the end of the 'newspaper decision'.
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9028&cat=boxerMost of the title fights in the early 1900's seemed to be about 20 rounds. After a quick look I saw that Stanley Ketchel got a KO in the 32nd round of a 45 rounder in 1907. There are a massive number of changes in general and that's not to mention regional changes. It needs to be specific and you need headings for what you're looking for to narrow it down so it doesn't look all over the place.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 11:08:37 AM » |
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managed to finish it, i get another crack at it so ill have to add the 15 to 12 rounds only thingi forgot
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 11:13:12 AM » |
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http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9028&cat=boxerMost of the title fights in the early 1900's seemed to be about 20 rounds. After a quick look I saw that Stanley Ketchel got a KO in the 32nd round of a 45 rounder in 1907. There are a massive number of changes in general and that's not to mention regional changes. It needs to be specific and you need headings for what you're looking for to narrow it down so it doesn't look all over the place. I'm reading Sam Langford's biography at the moment and he fought Fireman Jim Flynn in what was a fight scheduled for 45 rounds. He also had plenty of fights scheduled for 20 rounds as late as the start of the First World War.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 11:23:17 AM » |
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I'm reading Sam Langford's biography at the moment and he fought Fireman Jim Flynn in what was a fight scheduled for 45 rounds. He also had plenty of fights scheduled for 20 rounds as late as the start of the First World War.
I'd like to see a 45 round fight. they must have been very ponderous. Lots of circling and jabbing once every 30s at times. thats not to say they weren't hard fights but you can't go at the pace of a Vazquez -v- Marquez for 45 rounds especially at higher weights.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 11:28:02 AM » |
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well here's one my grandfather,Peter Reilly,intoduced way back when-the use of a syptic pencil/stick to assist with couts,especially over they eyes.was also one of the first to employ the use of "secluded" training camps(Pocono mountains) to keep his fighters minds on the upcoming fight 
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god bless ya Larry Costa-running laps in that track in the sky&remember all the little dudes-they're what it's all about mateys
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 11:41:29 AM » |
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Wikipedia Boxing
Its all there...and if not, the links to where it is are.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 02:37:10 PM » |
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I'm reading Sam Langford's biography at the moment and he fought Fireman Jim Flynn in what was a fight scheduled for 45 rounds. He also had plenty of fights scheduled for 20 rounds as late as the start of the First World War.
Brilliant book, ive read it twice I like the story about a 15 year old Langford KO'ing the 40yr old bare knuckle boxing champion because he wouldnt pay for his beer 
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 02:41:44 PM » |
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Brilliant book, ive read it twice I like the story about a 15 year old Langford KO'ing the 40yr old bare knuckle boxing champion because he wouldnt pay for his beer  I love that story too. Such a shame that he never got the opportunity to win the World title.
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 02:48:01 PM » |
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I love that story too. Such a shame that he never got the opportunity to win the World title.
Incidently, he has just been inducted into the Australian Boxing Hall Of Fame due to his 3 month stay out there (Not sure if you are that far along in the book yet?!) He had an awsome sense of humour, the story about giving the massive key to Sam McVey makes me laugh every time i read it.
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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2009, 03:02:39 PM » |
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Incidently, he has just been inducted into the Australian Boxing Hall Of Fame due to his 3 month stay out there (Not sure if you are that far along in the book yet?!)
He had an awsome sense of humour, the story about giving the massive key to Sam McVey makes me laugh every time i read it.
I've just finished the chapter where he fought Iron Hague so I think I'm coming up to it soon. The ugly man key was class!
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