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« on: October 17, 2010, 09:19:38 PM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-germany-multiculturalism-failures


Chancellor's remarks, which claimed multiculturalism had 'failed utterly', interpreted as a shift rightwards from previous views.


Chancellor Angela Merkel has declared the death of multiculturalism in Germany, saying that it had "failed utterly" , in what has been interpreted as a startling shift from her previous views. The German leader said it had been an illusion to think that Germans and foreign workers could "live happily side by side.

"We kidded ourselves for a while that they wouldn't stay, but that's not the reality," she said at a conference of the youth wing of her Christian Democratic Union party at the weekend, referring to the gastarbeiters, or guest workers, who arrived in Germany to fill a labour shortage during the economic boom of the 1960s.

"Of course the tendency had been to say, 'let's adopt the multicultural concept and live happily side by side, and be happy to be living with each other'. But this concept has failed, and failed utterly," she said, without elaborating on the nature and causes of this failure.

Merkel's verdict marks a shift in her previously liberal line on immigration which had always put her at odds with the more conservative wing of the party.

While she stressed in the same speech that immigrants were welcome in Germany and that Islam was a part of the nation's modern-day culture, her remarks positioned her closer to Klaus Seehofer, the Bavarian state premier of the Christian Social Union, who last week called for an end to immigration from Turkey and Arab countries.

They also align her with Thilo Sarrazin, the former Bundesbank member whose book on how the failure of many of Germany's 16 million immigrants to integrate was contributing to Germany's decline led to his dismissal.

Sharing the same podium as Merkel in Potsdam, Seehofer also said "multi-culturalism is dead" and that both the rightwing parties were committed to a "dominant German culture". If Germany did not revise its immigration policies, he said, it was in danger of becoming "the world's welfare office".

Seehofer insisted his statement was "an attempt to stop rightwing lunatics" but Jurgen Trittin, for the Greens, called the comments "shabby" and in danger of "lending social acceptability to views similar to those of rightwing extremists". There is a labour shortage in Germany. The chamber of industry and commerce has said that Germany is short of 400,000 skilled workers and that the gap is costing €25bn a year, equivalent to 1% of growth annually.

While industrialists have called on the government to remove obstacles stopping more skilled workers entering Germany, citing lengthy bureaucratic procedures as well as unrealistic thresholds, others say that long-term unemployed German workers should be given more of a chance first. Merkel insisted in her speech that immigrant workers should not be considered "until we have done all we can to help our own people to become qualified and give them a chance".

The issue has caused tension within Merkel's year-old coalition with the pro-business Free Democrats.

Labour minister Ursula von der Leyen, a member of Merkel's party, has said it was an illusion to believe people were queueing up to enter Germany.

"For several years more people have been leaving our country than entering it," she said in an interview. "Wherever it is possible, we must lower the entry hurdles for those who bring the country forward."

Merkel faces pressure to take a tougher line on immigration, particularly on so-called "integrationsverweigerer" or those immigrants who show a lack of willingness to adapt to the majority culture, by, for example, refusing to attend German language classes.

While trying to embrace both sides of the debate, including repeatedly calling on Germans to accept that foreigners are a part of their country, Merkel cannot have ignored the popular response with which Sarrazin's book was received, nor the repeated polls in which Germans have indicated a growing intolerance towards immigrants which observers say is linked to fears about economic stability, even though the economy is showing strong signs of recovery.

Last week a study by the Friedrich Ebert foundation found more than 30% of people questioned agreed that Germany was "overrun by foreigners", while a similar number said they believed that some immigrants had only come to German to take advantage of its social welfare, and "should be sent home when jobs are scarce".
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"At the start of the 60s we invited the guest-workers to Germany. We kidded ourselves for a while that they wouldn't stay, that one day they'd go home. That isn't what happened. And of course the tendency was to say: let's be 'multikulti' and live next to each other and enjoy being together, [but] this concept has failed, failed utterly."

Angela Merkel, German chancellor

"Germany should … get tougher on those who refuse to integrate before opening itself up to further immigration."

Horst Seehofer, Bavarian state premier

"Integration is the achievement of one who has integrated … I don't have to recognise anyone who lives from the state, rejects that state, refuses to ensure his children receive an education and continues to produce little headscarfed girls." Thilo Sarrazin, former Bundesbank board member

"A large number of the Arabs and Turks living in this city (Berlin) has no productive function other than selling fruit and vegetables".

"Turks are conquering Germany in the same way as Kosovars conquered Kosovo – with a high birth rate."
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 09:49:31 PM »

That is a huge statement from Germany there, that the Chancellor is saying that means there must be huge unrest. Good find Angel IQ
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 10:48:48 PM »

What she going to do, organise a 'Turkish Bath' at Belsen ?

It's a muslim thing she is talking about. With all the references to the Christian this and Christian that.

What sort of message is that sending to the people of Turkish decent that live there now?

Karo Murat and Otkay Urkal must be shitting it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 03:44:27 PM »

Good for the Germans ''Multiculturalism'' shouldn't be forced on anybody and now the UK is paying a terrible price for lax Immigration policies. The sooner we adopt a hard stance on it and start sending people back who are not prepared to live in a civilized Christian democracy paying taxes the better.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 06:22:20 PM »

This is too complicated, I deleted my post. My heart says people are free to live wherever they want, my head says this doesnt always work.

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 06:37:17 PM »

Good for the Germans ''Multiculturalism'' shouldn't be forced on anybody and now the UK is paying a terrible price for lax Immigration policies. The sooner we adopt a hard stance on it and start sending people back who are not prepared to live in a civilized Christian democracy paying taxes the better.

We live in a secular society, I'm sure Germany is the same.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 10:58:40 AM »


Apparently 13% of Germans surveyed favour a "fuhrer" type figure to take control, as they feel that the Country has been over run by foreigners

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/15102010/20/13-percent-germans-welcome-f-hrer.html

It would be interesting to see what the percentage would be if a similar survey was taken in the UK
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2010, 03:49:36 PM »

To many bad apples in the UK Enoch Powell had the right idea but of course he was deemed a racist. I know a lot of foreign people come here to work, pay taxes and give something back to society but there are huge numbers here just to rape the system.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 03:09:03 AM »

What she going to do, organise a 'Turkish Bath' at Belsen ?

It's a muslim thing she is talking about. With all the references to the Christian this and Christian that.

What sort of message is that sending to the people of Turkish decent that live there now?

Karo Murat and Otkay Urkal must be shitting it.

You know Karo Murat better than heself: He's unfamilar that he has a Türkish decent. Roll Eyes
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