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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2011, 11:29:25 PM » |
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Cotto's due a fight, what other 154'er could he have fought?
# nobody, yes your completely right, mayorga was the only option cotto had please accept my sincerist apologies. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2011, 06:25:16 PM » |
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After a long lay off it's a tune-up before a potential Margarito rematch. What's the problem? Also Cotto's had surgery on his shoulder so its a decent fight to test that out. I don't see anybody billing this as a megafight so what's the big deal?
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2011, 07:01:21 PM » |
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i actually agree with that, cotto seems to get a free pass off nearly everyone on here whatever he does and whoever he decides to fight.... just see the difference from when manny's fight with mosley was announced and when cotto's even bigger mismatch against mayorga was announced, apparently the second fight is fine because cotto's had a few hard fights... i dont agree with that at all he had a long (and deserved) lay off after the manny fight, then had a relatively easy world title win against foreman he's now taken a backward step in fighting mayorga, yes you could say the same about manny fighting mosley but they deserve to be treated the same, regardless of p4p rankings or anything else.
manny is at the very top of the tree at this stage, in his absolute prime....cotto on the other hand is on an irreversible slide had been for quite some time and is a couple of fights away from retiring. when cotto was in his prime and undestructable like manny is now he was fighting everybody and anybody. thats the difference. |
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2011, 07:07:17 PM » |
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manny is at the very top of the tree at this stage, in his absolute prime....cotto on the other hand is on an irreversible slide had been for quite some time and is a couple of fights away from retiring. when cotto was in his prime and undestructable like manny is now he was fighting everybody and anybody. thats the difference.
IQ Though i do feel/hope Cotto could have more to offer than people think. |
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2011, 07:16:36 PM » |
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Though i do feel/hope Cotto could have more to offer than people think.
i dont think so aaron... he doesnt look great at 154lb to me and the wars are starting to take its toll on him. still, hes had an outstanding career and history will be kind to him. if only this sport had a few more of his kind these days  |
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2011, 07:39:03 PM » |
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i dont think cotto is as shot as people try to make out he's only lost twice, and only once when you can say he was up against a guy who is simply a better fighter than him, as we all know the question marks surrounding the marg loss.. could it not be argued that pacs career is now starting to wind down now as well with all the other committments he has and the fact he was seemingly training a lot less than he had been for previous fights.
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2011, 07:45:13 PM » |
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i dont think cotto is as shot as people try to make out he's only lost twice, and only once when you can say he was up against a guy who is simply a better fighter than him, as we all know the question marks surrounding the marg loss.. could it not be argued that pacs career is now starting to wind down now as well with all the other committments he has and the fact he was seemingly training a lot less than he had been for previous fights.
pac says hes fighting until 2013. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2011, 07:50:00 PM » |
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boxers say a lot of things.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2011, 07:51:56 PM » |
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boxers say a lot of things.
sure why would he stop any time soon hes better now then he ever was. anyway he il be fighting until hes 50, hes just one of them. duran II |
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2011, 07:52:15 PM » |
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I think Cotto should atleast be given a chance now that he is under a highly rated world class trainer, maybe its too late but Steward seems to bo confident that he can get Miguel back in the hunt for the worlds elite.
I hope he does because atleast then we have a guy who is willing to face them all.
Its hard to say how much Mayorga will test Cotto, but if Cotto can beat Margarito after what happened in there first fight then it could just give him the boost for one more charge.
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2011, 10:10:06 PM » |
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After a long lay off it's a tune-up before a potential Margarito rematch. What's the problem? Also Cotto's had surgery on his shoulder so its a decent fight to test that out. I don't see anybody billing this as a megafight so what's the big deal?
Agree 100% ... its a tune up after surgery .... And the shoulder seems to be 100% from what I hear... he still has something to give to the sport |
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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2011, 10:49:01 PM » |
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manny is at the very top of the tree at this stage, in his absolute prime....cotto on the other hand is on an irreversible slide had been for quite some time and is a couple of fights away from retiring. when cotto was in his prime and undestructable like manny is now he was fighting everybody and anybody. thats the difference.
Nah, Cotto was never considered indestructable. His chin ensured that. He was rocked far too many times throughout his career even in the early years. He didn't look great against guys like Corley and Tores. I fancied Cotto to beat Pacquaio. I wasn't really overestimating Cotto at the time, more so underestimating Manny as a Welterweight. Cottos a class act and I'm a big fan. Alot of people think he can do no wrong though in my opinion. |
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« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2011, 11:21:05 PM » |
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Nah, Cotto was never considered indestructable. His chin ensured that. He was rocked far too many times throughout his career even in the early years. He didn't look great against guys like Corley and Tores.
I fancied Cotto to beat Pacquaio. I wasn't really overestimating Cotto at the time, more so underestimating Manny as a Welterweight.
Cottos a class act and I'm a big fan. Alot of people think he can do no wrong though in my opinion.
when he still had his "0" there was a sense of aura about cotto, everyone taught that no matter how big the war or how much of a trench he was in he would come out of it with his arm raised...much like hatton. nobody is indestructable maybe i worded it wrong but you get where im coming from. |
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2011, 01:49:42 AM » |
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Cotto doesn't really do anything for me anymore. He used to turn me on, in a no homo way.
But now, he's just topping up his pension fund. He's every right to cash in for what he has given the sport over the years. But his fighting style means he is already an old shopworn fighter. And I don't really care for fights like this.
At first I was really wondering why the hell Steward and Cotto would take this fight... then I realized that if he's going to fight Margarito, then a pressure fighter that Cotto can look good against and that he can get some ring time in with is perhaps a good way to start. |
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2011, 12:02:01 PM » |
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I think its a good choice of fight for Cotto. Mayorga will sell tickets. And Cottos controlled agression should get Mayorga out of there in the mid to late rounds. But you always have to give Mayorga a shot, if one of his wild swings connects. He's way past his best now though.
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