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« on: August 12, 2011, 03:21:00 PM » |
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The fight that never happened. I'm unsure if there's a thread in here already but couldn't see one.
How do you guys think a fight between them would have played out?
Personally, and because i'm such a big Lennox fan, i think Lewis would of stayed behind his jab and used the range to outpoint Bowe. Bowe's only loss was to Holyfield on the cards and i think if Holyfield is capable of outboxing Bowe, then Lennox certainly is.
Lennox UD for me!
Although there's no way i'd write Bowe off, he definitely had the power and ability to knock Lewis out, but technically, i don't think he was as good as Lewis nor would he be able to beat him on the cards.
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« on: August 12, 2011, 03:21:00 PM » |
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jimjack
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 03:25:30 PM » |
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It's a shame 'cos these two had the styles to beat each other and create a legacy of 2 or 3 great fights.
Out of the 2 I would back Lewis, but like you say Bowe had the power and speed to get to Lewis. 8 out of 10 times i'd back Lennox to win though.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 04:13:11 PM » |
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Personally I think Bowe and Lewis would have happened had Lennox not annihilated Razor Ruddock back in 92. Firstly, I think Bowe and his team thought Lennox couldn't whack until that fight, and secondly Lewis being handed the WBC belt meant he was no longer rated by the other organisations where Bowe was champ. Out of the two it was only really Lennox who wanted the fight.
Shame, it would have been a great match up in the mid 90's. With hindsight it's funny to imagine that Bowe would probably even have started as favourite, seeing as plenty of Lennox's career best wins came in the last 3 or 4 years of his career.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 04:58:55 PM » |
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Personally I think Bowe and Lewis would have happened had Lennox not annihilated Razor Ruddock back in 92. Firstly, I think Bowe and his team thought Lennox couldn't whack until that fight, and secondly Lewis being handed the WBC belt meant he was no longer rated by the other organisations where Bowe was champ. Out of the two it was only really Lennox who wanted the fight.
Shame, it would have been a great match up in the mid 90's. With hindsight it's funny to imagine that Bowe would probably even have started as favourite, seeing as plenty of Lennox's career best wins came in the last 3 or 4 years of his career.
Yeah, i also heard it had a lot to do with Rock Newman why the fight didn't happen, with his somewhat select match making just watched Bowe-Golota II and Golota virtually had him out of there! If Golota can do that to Bowe then Lennox had the ability to absolutely murder him |
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2011, 08:47:09 PM » |
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A Lewis win for me. Bowe throwing his belt away rather than taking the fight shows he knew it too.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 01:04:03 PM » |
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Bowe was decent when he was right but his dedication to turning up in shape left a lot to be desired. Quite alarming how quickly he went downhill. He wasn't even that old when he fought Golota.
I remember reading an article on him a couple of years ago and he's basically skint and selling autographs at flea markets after retiring with $15 million.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 08:55:31 PM » |
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I think Newman was more responsible for the fight not happening and Bowe was simply stupid enough to go along with him.Bowe had the talent and heart to match his size but was just an incredibly lazy person.
I think Bowe was the better fighter at that time it should have happened and would have beaten Lewis.The Lewis of the second half of the decade I would favour however.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 04:58:25 AM » |
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I think Newman was more responsible for the fight not happening and Bowe was simply stupid enough to go along with him.Bowe had the talent and heart to match his size but was just an incredibly lazy person.
I think Bowe was the better fighter at that time it should have happened and would have beaten Lewis.The Lewis of the second half of the decade I would favour however.
Bowe was vastly superior in every department than Lewis, The Lewis camp deliberately priced themselves out of the Bowe fight knowing the WBC would strip Bowe if the fight was not agreed within 90 days. Lewis lost the WBC title to McCall in 94 and was offered £10 million to face Bowe yet turned it down. Lewis never ever wanted any part of fighting Bowe in the pro ranks. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 09:17:00 AM » |
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Bowe was vastly superior in every department than Lewis, The Lewis camp deliberately priced themselves out of the Bowe fight knowing the WBC would strip Bowe if the fight was not agreed within 90 days. Lewis lost the WBC title to McCall in 94 and was offered £10 million to face Bowe yet turned it down. Lewis never ever wanted any part of fighting Bowe in the pro ranks.
In a hotdog eating contest, maybe, but not boxing. Newman reportedly offered a 90/10 split in Bowe's favour for the fight to take place so it was hardly as if Lennox was pricing himself out of the fight. Bowe knew that Lewis could beat him. Bowe could have let the fight go to purse bids and still received the majority of the purse but decided to make himself look like a tool by chucking the title in the bin instead. |
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RAZZ-MCFC
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 10:16:51 PM » |
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Bowe was vastly superior in every department than Lewis, The Lewis camp deliberately priced themselves out of the Bowe fight knowing the WBC would strip Bowe if the fight was not agreed within 90 days. Lewis lost the WBC title to McCall in 94 and was offered £10 million to face Bowe yet turned it down. Lewis never ever wanted any part of fighting Bowe in the pro ranks.
Quite frankly that's complete rubbish. Lennox never avoided anybody and if anything he wanted the Bowe fight more than Bowe wanted it. Hurricane got it bang on, they offered a ridiculous split knowing full well Lennox wouldn't accept. Then they relinquished the belt rather than face Lennox because Bowe was shit scared of Lewis. Lennox already beat Riddick in the amateurs, why would he be scared of facing him in the pros? Nonsense post. |
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jimjack
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011, 06:52:32 AM » |
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Bowe was vastly superior in every department than Lewis, The Lewis camp deliberately priced themselves out of the Bowe fight knowing the WBC would strip Bowe if the fight was not agreed within 90 days. Lewis lost the WBC title to McCall in 94 and was offered £10 million to face Bowe yet turned it down. Lewis never ever wanted any part of fighting Bowe in the pro ranks.
Lewis was faster, had better range of punches, hit as hard if not harder, better footwork, better defence. Bowe had a better chin. Not really every dept is it? |
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 07:53:26 PM » |
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The Bowe circa the first Holyfield fight was a tremendous fighter for a big man. I believe, at that time, he would have probably been too much for Lennox. That is around 92/93, before Manny Steward got hold of Lennox.
Lennox peaked in the late 90s. By that time, Bowe was pretty much finished. I believe Bowe at his best, would've definitely had the tools to beat Lennox. But not sure if he believed it himself. He was a bully, and I believe Lennox had his number mentally after the Olympics. Even though, in reality, the Olympics should not have really had any impact on the professional fight.
Lewis was mentally a very strong fighter. Bowe was mentally weak. Even though Bowe was physically impressive, that could've been the difference.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 10:01:11 AM » |
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Lewis mentally had Bowe beat, he frightened Riddick who was a skilled fighter but a bully boy type. Without a doubt Lewis would have flattened Bowe and relatively early cos when Lewis sensed weakness, fear, etc then he'd go after it ruthlessly.
Lewis had the size and jab to beat Bowe at Bowe's own game, but i don't think he'd have needed that to win this fight. I think he'd have had Bowe beaten before a punch was thrown and we'd have seen Bowe fall apart at the seams when the leather started to fly.
And despite all his talk, Riddick's actions at the time he should have been making a fight against Lennox, illustrate that he probably goes along with my line of thought. Lennox was the 'big daddy' in that fight and Bowe knew it better than anyone, hence why he ran like the wind rather than face the man who'd wrecked Ruddock in 'The fight for the right' to challenge the Bowe/Holyfield winner!
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Gadje
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 09:44:32 AM » |
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Not sure if it was an interview on telly or I read it but it surprised me so much that it stuck in my mind. Lennox suggested that when the fight with Bowe was first muted -around Ruddock? He said that Bowe was probably technically superior to him and might have beaten him then. However Bowe declined and he improved. Rather like his post Tyson quote about him being like great wine...improving with age.
Still it was all Newmans doing that they never fought. He did all he could to keep Bowe away from big punchers. Early Bowe was certainly more fluid and a better inside fighter than Lewis but I don't think he could take Lewis punches ( little Herbie seriously rocked him). Lewis had a better chin than the two shock knockdowns suggest.
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