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[RAZZ-MCFC]

This pisses me off!  Degale willl be lucky if he's ever half the fighter Marvin was!  He doesn't deserve to even be mentioning Marvin in the same breath as his own name when it comes to boxing.


Super-middleweight contender James DeGale has promised to be more like middleweight legend Marvin Hagler when he takes on European champion Piotr Wilczewski in his next outing.

DeGale lost a highly controversial split decision to bitter rival George Groves in May, and the Olympian revealed he’s been channeling the spirit of Marvin Hagler with trainer Jimmy McDonnell as part of his rebuilding program.

Talking about the loss, DeGale said, ‘I learnt a lot from it. One of the things I talked to Jimmy about is being more aggressive. I shouldn't have allowed the first eight rounds to turn into a sparring session.

‘A fighter that Jimmy and I have discussed is Marvin Hagler, and specifically his fight with Tommy Hearns. Hagler went to war against Hearns straight away, and if I had done that against Groves, I would have won the fight, easy.

‘I've been working on being more aggressive and cutting down the ring. You are not going to see a completely different fighter next time I box, but I will be an improved version of the one everybody saw in May.’

http://www.boxingfutures.com/news/0824-degale-i-ll-be-more-hagler

[presa]

if he learns from the defeat then great, he has all the tools to be a world champion, it was an early stage of his career. imo the loss will have been a blessing in disguise, piotr is not an easy opponent though so i hope hes worked hard.

looking forward to this and to see what improvements have been made.

[Mal]

Super-middleweight pretender
 

Fixed.

By the way, was it that Degale joker who wrote that article or someone from his team because I can't see an authors name?

"DeGale lost a highly controversial split decision" has to be more controversial then the decision itself. By most accounts, Groves won and it was debatable at best. That doesn't fall into the same bracket as "highly controversial" 

Whoever made that remark obviously has never followed the sport of boxing.

I get the feeling it was some easy going idiot begging for a story and was prepared to say anything just so long as they got it. Whoever it was must have been embarrassed about saying it because they forgot to state their name.

[RAZZ-MCFC]

Fixed.

By the way, was it that Degale joker who wrote that article or someone from his team because I can't see an authors name?

"DeGale lost a highly controversial split decision" has to be more controversial then the decision itself. By most accounts, Groves won and it was debatable at best. That doesn't fall into the same bracket as "highly controversial" 

Whoever made that remark obviously has never followed the sport of boxing.

I get the feeling it was some easy going idiot begging for a story and was prepared to say anything just so long as they got it. Whoever it was must have been embarrassed about saying it because they forgot to state their name.

Groves won the fight.  I've seen nobody apart from DeGale and his team complain about the decision.

[pogo]

groves didnt win that fight imo. i has Degale by 2 and there there was quite a few like me that thought the same.

Still find it hard to believe that they gave it to groves for running all night long.  Cant respect a performance like that, its supposed to be a fight and there was only 1 guy trying to make it a fight.

[The Hurricane]

groves didnt win that fight imo. i has Degale by 2 and there there was quite a few like me that thought the same.

Still find it hard to believe that they gave it to groves for running all night long.  Cant respect a performance like that, its supposed to be a fight and there was only 1 guy trying to make it a fight.

I had it to Groves by two rounds and that was giving DeGale a share of a round I'd have awarded to Groves if pushed.  DeGale lost because he followed Groves around the ring with no real plan and got countered with better shots when he did manage to pull the trigger. 

[Skav]

Fixed.

By the way, was it that Degale joker who wrote that article or someone from his team because I can't see an authors name?

"DeGale lost a highly controversial split decision" has to be more controversial then the decision itself. By most accounts, Groves won and it was debatable at best. That doesn't fall into the same bracket as "highly controversial" 

Whoever made that remark obviously has never followed the sport of boxing.

I get the feeling it was some easy going idiot begging for a story and was prepared to say anything just so long as they got it. Whoever it was must have been embarrassed about saying it because they forgot to state their name.

I believe I have also used that term to describe their decision in my articles, too. It was controversial among sports fans and it was one that had many divided opinions. I, myself, thought that DeGale won even though I was rooting for Groves.

[Mal]

Groves won the fight.  I've seen nobody apart from DeGale and his team complain about the decision.

Did you just make your way back from the moon did you Razz?  

It matters not to me what you seen mate, I know for a fact there was at least 4 people on here alone who openly spoke their mind arguing/debating that Degale won. I also have no doubt that there would have been others who thought he won but decided not to get into any arguements over it. It's pretty damn hard to argue a point when it's close and the very fight in question was just that.

Your ignorance is clearly showing Razz. A close fight like that was always gonna create debate and the very fact you try to deny, or pehaps try to convince yourself of your own bullsh!t leaves one to wonder just how fair dinkum you are.

I follow neither fighter but took the odd glance at different threads to see what all the hype was about, not just on here but a couple of other sites and it was the same, pretty much. Most agreeing Groves won but plenty of others debating the point. Totally the opposite to what you said.

[Forest]

What a turd. Hagler wasn't the most eloquent bloke in his interviews but he's ten times smarter and ten times the better fighter than this meathead. Does he just keep saying stupid things to keep his name in the press? Bit like Paris Hilton?

[pogo]

What a turd. Hagler wasn't the most eloquent bloke in his interviews but he's ten times smarter and ten times the better fighter than this meathead. Does he just keep saying stupid things to keep his name in the press? Bit like Paris Hilton?

to be fair degale wasnt comparing himself to the great one, rather talking about haglers aggressive approach and how trying to adopt a similar approach will benefit himself. dont really see how this would upset anyone.

If he does what he says he is gonna do then he  has learned from his defeat and all is good.

ps keep the Sc's coming lol. Pathetic gits just cos i dont happen to agree with their love of all things ginger.

[presa]

to be fair degale wasnt comparing himself to the great one, rather talking about haglers aggressive approach and how trying to adopt a similar approach will benefit himself. dont really see how this would upset anyone.

If he does what he says he is gonna do then he  has learned from his defeat and all is good.

ps keep the Sc's coming lol. Pathetic gits just cos i dont happen to agree with their love of all things ginger.

haha it would be a crap forum if everyone followed suit.

have a cc on me.

as for the hagler comment well i took it with a pinch of salt, hes hardly saying he is the next hagler.

this piotr is no walkover and for james to box nicely and beat him well is a very good achievement.

[Forest]

to be fair degale wasnt comparing himself to the great one, rather talking about haglers aggressive approach and how trying to adopt a similar approach will benefit himself. dont really see how this would upset anyone.

If he does what he says he is gonna do then he  has learned from his defeat and all is good.

ps keep the Sc's coming lol. Pathetic gits just cos i dont happen to agree with their love of all things ginger.

Aye, know what you mean but the pillock just gets on me tits! Although if I was to say "I'm going to box someone with speed, like Muhammad Ali did" people might look twice at a statement like that.

And ginger people smell of foxes Piss and digestive biscuits. 

(Sorry, I don't have a thing about not liking gingers, I just think that last bit is ruddy funny! In fact, ginger women are HOT. Some of them).

[RAZZ-MCFC]

groves didnt win that fight imo. i has Degale by 2 and there there was quite a few like me that thought the same.

Still find it hard to believe that they gave it to groves for running all night long.  Cant respect a performance like that, its supposed to be a fight and there was only 1 guy trying to make it a fight.

Why can't you respect a performance like that?  He boxed brilliantly, boxing is all about hitting and not being hit, that's why it's called the sweet science.  Not everybody has to be involved in a war to make it a respectable performance.  Floyd is the best boxer in the game, are you saying you can't respect any of his performances?

Did you just make your way back from the moon did you Razz? 

It matters not to me what you seen mate, I know for a fact there was at least 4 people on here alone who openly spoke their mind arguing/debating that Degale won. I also have no doubt that there would have been others who thought he won but decided not to get into any arguements over it. It's pretty damn hard to argue a point when it's close and the very fight in question was just that.

Your ignorance is clearly showing Razz. A close fight like that was always gonna create debate and the very fact you try to deny, or pehaps try to convince yourself of your own bullsh!t leaves one to wonder just how fair dinkum you are.

I follow neither fighter but took the odd glance at different threads to see what all the hype was about, not just on here but a couple of other sites and it was the same, pretty much. Most agreeing Groves won but plenty of others debating the point. Totally the opposite to what you said.

Over exaggeration of the year?

I never said there weren't people who debated the decision, the word i used was complained.  Everybody who i saw or spoke to said the result was fair enough.  Yes a fair few had DeGale winning the fight but nobody complained about it the way Team DeGale and Frank ****** did, or if they did i certainly didn't see it.  Even the most hardcore DeGale fans like HurricaneHig and GrizzlyAdams didn't complain about the decision.  There's a difference between the words debate and complain.

I never said there was anything wrong with people debating the fight and it's outcome, but to complain about it is something else completely.  No need to call it bullshit, it's an opinion!

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?

[HurricaneHig]

It was documented enough on here how much i was hoping Degale would win, rounds 10-11-12 my opinion changed as i taught Groves came in with a great gameplan, and i began to hope he would get the decision. saying that i still had Degale up by a couple of rounds and i felt over the 12 he had actually won.

I still believe if they met again, it would be Degale all day!!

My opinion of course 

[Brick Top]

To be honest I had de gale by a round, but was chuffed when groves won. What worried me more though in terms of a rematch for groves is  how much stronger de gale looked in the (brief) exchanges, groves was scoring points, but de gale seemed to be throwing alot more solidly (that a word). Still groves is a few years younger so may develop a bit more