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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 02:49:40 PM »

I don't think Vitali would avoid haye, but i honestly feel if haye grows the balls on fight night, he would beat this version of vitali. It'll be the right time to call it a night on his career now.

I agree.....

Haye struggled to get going against Wlad cos Wlad despite being chinny does control the range fairly well and is quick and decent on his feet for such a big man. Haye found him a more difficult target than he expected, and then accentuated this by not going for it as he should have done. I expected him to be cautious, but i think he thought sooner or later he'd land something major and then he'd go bombing looking for a finish. He never really found the target with the bombs he was after, so spent the fight circling and waiting for something that never came.

To be fair its not like Wlad ripped any trees up that night either. He never came close to halting Haye and i think of the two Haye's punches had the more noticeable effect on the few occasions he did land with anything. But after all the talk, the pressure was on Haye to deliver something brutal and sensational, and of course he failed.

BUT.....Vitali's movement is nowhere near as good as Wlad's, and his balance which was never great, is woeful now. He's also slower than Wlad of both hand and foot. Haye can certainly find the target much easier against Vitali, and Vitali will be more aggressive than Wlad, so Haye will get more opportunities to counter. Yeah Vitali has a much, much stronger chin than his little brother....but he won't just walk through flush punches. He backed away from Chisora when Delboy landed and Chisora isn't really a major league banger.

Stylewise....Vitali might in fact be the easier Klitschko to fight for Haye, especially at this point in time cos Vitali is fast fading. I think Vitali will still want to fight Haye, but i'm not sure Boente fancies it for his man. Better to just freeze Haye out, than risk a guy he hates getting Vitali at the right time and doing a number on him.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Vitali retire without ever fighting again. He looked a very weary old fella at the of 12 rounds with Chisora. Does he really need this anymore?
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 03:29:46 PM »

Do you really think that mate.......

Look what the supposedly weaker brother done to him, Vitali beats him during surgery if you ask me.

Haye is going to run like a bitch anyway, i don't rate him and he definitley doesn't deserve a shot at the title.

I really wish he would just Piss off to be honest.

i like haye being back involved with the heavyweights again.

at least he is bringing back a little bit of a stir, obviously the weekend gone isnt good but its caused the public to talk about boxing for 3 days.

as long as haye can honour a fight and be realistic in the build up then im cool with it.

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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2012, 03:55:27 PM »

Avoiding Haye........... Roll Eyes

You do realise Haye is shit??

Well why did they turn the fight down when Haye had accepted their offer? I'm not gonna argue about it as I don't have a clue who's telling the truth and who's lying.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 04:13:43 PM »

Well why did they turn the fight down when Haye had accepted their offer? I'm not gonna argue about it as I don't have a clue who's telling the truth and who's lying.
Don't mind the negotiations part mate.......

It was more the Haye beating Vitali part that had me confused, i thought it was quite clear after he ran from Wlad that he was well out of his dept and actually shit to be honest.

Any version of Vitali beats Haye.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2012, 01:41:17 AM »

Don't mind the negotiations part mate.......

It was more the Haye beating Vitali part that had me confused, i thought it was quite clear after he ran from Wlad that he was well out of his dept and actually shit to be honest.

Any version of Vitali beats Haye.

I've said this before - Haye has read a lot of comments about himself on the net, and I believe he wants to fight Vitali to try and knock him out and regain the respect he had at cruiser weight, and retire (again) on a high. He knows if he comes out of retirement he can't fight the same way he did against Wlad. If I am wrong then I will admit it after the event, but until then I hope the fight happens and if it does it will excite me and I'll support him the way I always have. I won't hold it against him and turn on him and join in with this 'he's an embarrassment to the sport' talk, just because he didn't perform against the best heavyweight in the world.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2012, 09:13:04 AM »

Haye is looking in the region of a 250k fine (min). The actual 'use' of a weapon is badly frowned upon - of which the tripod is considered one.  Leaving did not help his case.

They are cool with Chisora, he was very apologetic during interview.

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