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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2012, 01:52:28 PM » |
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I agree, but hes not a 140lb fighter, took everything Maidana had for 12 rounds and made him look foolish for large parts of the fight, I never said Alexander would win, but if he boxes smartly and moves well, hes every chance of beating Maidana, who is a walk forward puncher with heavy hands, nothing more, even his shadow boxing looks shite! 
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 02:15:40 PM » |
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you dont rate his power at the top level?? he had ortiz crawling around the ring, he closed morales' eye shut after 6mins of action, he had khan all over the shop...the guy can bang mate.
does alexander really have this skill set ya talk of?? he clearly lost the kotelnik and mattysese fights and bitched out against bradley with a paper cut over his eye.....even if he did have the skills does he more importantly have the heart to deal with chino?
ortiz and khan are hardly known for their chins? ortiz gets dropped all the time and khan....well.. morales eye damage was from a head clash was it not? memory is sketchy
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 04:06:39 PM » |
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ortiz and khan are hardly known for their chins? ortiz gets dropped all the time and khan....well..
morales eye damage was from a head clash was it not? memory is sketchy
But were Khan and Ortiz still not considered to be top level, regardless of their chin strength?
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 04:45:29 PM » |
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Devon should have the skills and speed to make Maidana look ordinary. Morales exposed him I think. He's a puncher and little else
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 04:46:24 PM » |
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To which I'll add, IF Alexander has the heart to go the full 12. He has the ability to win this by a wide UD.
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 10:39:14 PM » |
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But were Khan and Ortiz still not considered to be top level, regardless of their chin strength?
i dont think ortiz is effective at 140 due to weight making issues, and he really struggled down there, he only looked dangerous after moving to 147 and beating berto. im not saying maidana has crap power, dont get me wrong but i think at the top lvls his 90+% ko ratio flatters it.
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 10:41:45 PM » |
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I'm interested to see how both look at 147 to be honest.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 11:18:37 PM » |
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Hello folks. Below is my interview/ feature with Marcos Maidana for HalcyonMag. If you haven't yet heard of us, we're a new monthly men's mag with daily online content, looking to feature the fight game heavily within our sports section. If you enjoy the Maidana piece please like our HalcyonMag facebook page or follow us on twitter @halcyonmag. This isn't spam, we're just a few lads having a go at putting a mag together and as the boxing writer I'd hugely appreciate your support if it seems your bag. Thanks, here's the link http://www.halcyonmag.com/2012/02/23/chin-music-maidana-vs-alexander/Hope you enjoy
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2012, 11:22:01 AM » |
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I think Maidana is going to have too much here. If he can absorb Devons power early on and get through then its going to be an early night.
I really have to wonder about the PED rumours regarding Devon. In fairness it wouldnt be Maidana's style to cry wolf. So obviously there is some indication to this. Devon has looked SH*T over the last two years so if we see a miracle renaissance and a complete change in power, stamina and strength. Questions will have to be asked. I dont think he was struggling with weight as much as he lets on. I think its an excuse to mask his levelling off in ability.
If you look at the form. All Alexander has really done is Lose unanimously to Bradley, Mattysse, Kotelnik. Beat Wittor and Urango. Its not a terrifying resume. Maidana faired fair better with Kotelnik than Alexander did, did very well against a Khan that was in top form, did enough in a poor performance against a come backing legend of the ring, knock out some mid level opponents. Including Victor Cayo who gave Lamont Peterson a decent fight.
I think Maidana should on form be the winner of that fight.
But lets wait and see what happens regarding the officials and/or Alexander being on a level playing field.
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2012, 11:58:58 AM » |
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I never can understand the love maidana gets on here. Jesus I think he is like frankenstien just plodding forward any 1 else that had khan In that position would of getting him out there but he just seemed to get in the way of himself. And for Alexander he is just quitter that all is wrong with the sport. knowing he was guaranteed another million plus fight after Bradley he took the easy way out. a sin that must never be forgotten regardless of what he achieves in the future.
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 02:04:47 PM » |
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I understand why people call Maidana a come forward slugger but isnt that edsactly what Bradley did to beat Alexander?
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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2012, 10:32:11 PM » |
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This fight is on skysports 1 at 3am if anyone missed it being advertised
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2012, 12:58:07 AM » |
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Very interesting fight and I think there's a few question marks for both guys. You could make the case that Alexander lost his last 3 fights (Kotelnik, Bradley, Matthysse). For Maidana, sandwiching the Khan loss were close calls with Corley (in Argentina) and Morales. I still think Maidana would have stopped Morales were he not forced to wear pillows, but also think he showed some of his limitations in that fight as well.
For me if Alexander can take Maidana's power, he wins a decision. If not, he gets KO'd. This being a new weight for both makes it trickier to pick. I'm gonna go with Maidana by stoppage in this one. We'll see.
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2012, 03:52:15 AM » |
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If Maidana won who would you go for if he rematched Ortiz at 147?
Pure boxing wise id go Ortiz, but Maidana beat him down mentally and made him quit in a bad way. Still go Ortiz though I reckon..
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2012, 04:31:06 AM » |
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Stinks of PED's... Secret Spartan training camp. No friends or family allowed near it, no reporters. Looks alot fitter, more resiliant, more powerful. Get the man a blood test NOW!!!
Apart from that, easy nights work for Devon. You cant come in with just a plan A at this level.
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