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[Keegan Jacobs]

Happy Birthday to the best boxer in the world.

[HurricaneHig]

Happy Birthday you big big racist!!  

[jimjack]

I wanted to start this thread but was late for work.
Hope Floyd enjoyed his 35th birthday.
If his life outside of the Ring was balanced,then he would be one fight away from retiring with a clean Boxing Legacy than is unmatched in the Sport.
Sadly its not the case coz Floyd Gambles so much away,he has too many hangers on who are draining his money and I can see him fighting on for another 3 years and getting Beat up by inferior opposition.

Bu still for him to reach age of 35 with his 0,given numerous Champions he has defeated,is testament to his Ring Ability.
Did you get that Skav,Mal and Pete?


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I think pbf is the best in the business, however I find your posts on him bordering on creepy.

[jim1973]

F*ck him

[Skav]

I wanted to start this thread but was late for work.
Hope Floyd enjoyed his 35th birthday.
If his life outside of the Ring was balanced,then he would be one fight away from retiring with a clean Boxing Legacy than is unmatched in the Sport.
Sadly its not the case coz Floyd Gambles so much away,he has too many hangers on who are draining his money and I can see him fighting on for another 3 years and getting Beat up by inferior opposition.

Bu still for him to reach age of 35 with his 0,given numerous Champions he has defeated,is testament to his Ring Ability.
Did you get that Skav,Mal and Pete?

I haven't questioned his ring ability. He's a genius. Just f***ing boring.

[motoriser]

Yeah I got it Motorman, sadly for you though Floyds career wont be judged on that post of yours or anything you think of the ducker. You can try to convince yourself and others all you like of what Floyd may have become if he wasn't so insecure and his obsession with remaining undefeated for which some strange reason, the fan boys lap it up as if it offers him some place in the all time top 10 or something. Lmao!

History will judge him rather harshly I should imagine and guys like you will have a hell of a hard time trying to convince the majority otherwise Motorman.

By the way, I seen this thread and decided against posting in it at first, it was only after seeing you mention my name that it got a reaction out of me. I had actually been nice about dear little Floyd latetly and was quite complementry towards him for a change.

I will out of respect to the others on here take it easy on him for now and leave it at that. Don't bait me again Motorman, I will tear strips off him next time and have you reaching for the tissues mate haha.

You had started off well but drifted away.
Anyways,as they say Numbers don't lie.
After all has been said and done,its the numbers(I'm not talking PPV numbers here ) that will speak for themselves, and not fan boys or the fighter himself.
Thanks.

[Tuco]

Yeah I got it Motorman, sadly for you though Floyds career wont be judged on that post of yours or anything you think of the ducker. You can try to convince yourself and others all you like of what Floyd may have become if he wasn't so insecure and his obsession with remaining undefeated for which some strange reason, the fan boys lap it up as if it offers him some place in the all time top 10 or something. Lmao!

History will judge him rather harshly I should imagine and guys like you will have a hell of a hard time trying to convince the majority otherwise Motorman.

I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head their Mal.

Floyd will be remembered as a huge talent in the ring but a man with no balls. No balls and a bigoted parasite out of the ring.

Though I actually do enjoy watching him fight, he possesses a very unique and diverse skillset, the best skillset in boxing imo. I'm looking forward to him fighting a badly faded Cotto. Then again is their a big name he has fought who wasn't badly faded since he coined himself ''Money Mayweather''??

[jorg21]

Happy belated birthday to Pussy boy Floyd.

[Mal]

History will judge Floyd pretty well. You may not like it but I can honestly say after many years of watching boxing he's up there as one of the best I've seen. If he were to beat Cotto and Manny and I reckon there is a very strong case for being the best there has been.

You may not like it Dexter but that whole post of yours is based on opinion, not fact. I've also watched boxing for many years and can honestly say I don't see him coming close to becoming the best there has been. That to me is out-farken-rageous. Beating both Cotto & Manny from here onwards would enhance his legacy no doubt, but it would not be enough to hail him as the GOAT ffs. Cotto is on the slide and has already been beaten a couple of times and went life and death in two others. He's a HOF for sure, not an ATG. Beating Manny would be enough to hail him as the best fighter of his generation, but wouldn't be enough to hail him as the best of all time. For starters, Manny's bubble has been burst, a few times. Morales and Marquez who arguebly twice have already done it. Then there is the Bradley fight coming up, if he matches Pac for 12 rounds and makes his life hell when most are already tipping Manny to win, it wont do Floyd any favours by coming along to clean up the scraps and leftovers. People will jump on the Manny was faded wagon and they might well be right. Alot will depend on what happens in this fight. If Manny blows him out of the water and looks a million bucks in doing so, he'd be doing Floyd a bloody big favour if Floyd finds his balls to face him later in the year and so happens to beat him.

I'm not knocking Floyds ring class, he's brilliant at what he does and would have faired well in any era imo, but his resume is paper thin with a handful of past their use by date HOF's and opponents who stood no chance. I think it's unfair on the greats of yesterday year who had the balls to fight anyone anywhere and for a fraction of the money Mayweather scams out of people. He should not be given a free pass to the very top based on what he's done and I would suggest you watch some tapes of the greats from years gone by and show them a little appreciation. Alot of them would have butchered Floyd in my view.

[motoriser]

^^^^I guess you prefer the Resume of a guy who has won vacant titles and catch weights against guys coming off losses.Or should I say I guy getting beaten by an opponent who is only 4 months removed from a loss.
The guy has been stopped twice,dropped with a jab thrown by a novice like Skinny Hussein and was on the verge of getting knocked out.
Dare I say,still reluctant to do some Random Test to clear the Air once and for all that he's all natural instead of being medicaly/Ariza enhanced.....................etc.

Ha,fantastic staff Mal.

[Mal]

^^^^I guess you prefer the Resume of a guy who has won vacant titles and catch weights against guys coming off losses.Or should I say I guy getting beaten by an opponent who is only 4 months removed from a loss.
The guy has been stopped twice,dropped with a jab thrown by a novice like Skinny Hussein and was on the verge of getting knocked out.
Dare I say,still reluctant to do some Random Test to clear the Air once and for all that he's all natural instead of being medicaly/Ariza enhanced.....................etc.

Ha,fantastic staff Mal.

I guess you could say I prefer a guy with wins over atleast 2 ATG's then that of a guy who hasn't even faced one as yet and is fast running out of time with the only one left. I guess you could say I prefer a pit bull terrier that is all heart (Pacquaio) then that of a yapping chihuhua (Mayweather) who is more bark then bite, yes I guess you could say that Motorman.

As for the rest of your dribble, it has been dealt and done with. You have been given answers to them in the past, surely your not as forgetfull as Floyd?

Who cares about all that anyway? Only you and a handfull of fanatics cling to that. Actually it's comical that you even revert to those losses and knockdown, because all's it does is make Floyd look a bigger pussy then what he already is. I mean seriously, you'se are trying to convince me of Floyds greatness and even after 3 shit kickers from way back done what they done, it's still not enough to bait or lure Floyd in.

For the record Motoriser, even if Pacman was to beat Floyd, it still wouldn't be enough for me to hail him at the best there has been. I just don't hold Floyd in that high regard to do so. That's not to suggest he's a bad fighter, he's a great fighter, one of the best of about a 100, I just don't see him as even top 30 materiel. 

[Dexter_Morgan]

I guess you could say I prefer a guy with wins over atleast 2 ATG's then that of a guy who hasn't even faced one as yet and is fast running out of time with the only one left. I guess you could say I prefer a pit bull terrier that is all heart (Pacquaio) then that of a yapping chihuhua (Mayweather) who is more bark then bite, yes I guess you could say that Motorman.

As for the rest of your dribble, it has been dealt and done with. You have been given answers to them in the past, surely your not as forgetfull as Floyd?

Who cares about all that anyway? Only you and a handfull of fanatics cling to that. Actually it's comical that you even revert to those losses and knockdown, because all's it does is make Floyd look a bigger pussy then what he already is. I mean seriously, you'se are trying to convince me of Floyds greatness and even after 3 shit kickers from way back done what they done, it's still not enough to bait or lure Floyd in.

For the record Motoriser, even if Pacman was to beat Floyd, it still wouldn't be enough for me to hail him at the best there has been. I just don't hold Floyd in that high regard to do so. That's not to suggest he's a bad fighter, he's a great fighter, one of the best of about a 100, I just don't see him as even top 30 materiel. 

But Mal by your own post Pacman beat every fighter on the slide in fact you could argue he picked fighters at the right time far better than any other fighter and I'll include MAB and EM in that.

Tell me another fighter like Floyd who has faced almost everyone his generation has had to offer and never official touched canvas ?  I've been watching boxing for close to thirty years and sat up to often to count into the wee small hours and I can't ever recall any other fighter who has actually never been in trouble in a fight.

Sure its my opinion and I'm entitled to it and yes the guy is a bit of a dick but fook me take the dislike out of it and people clutch at straws Ortiz might have got him on the ropes 'that' time if only Mosley could have landed another. Many on here said Floyd wouldn't ever step in the ring with Mosley or Cotto. Yet here we are talking about the fights.

Now sure you reckon Cotto is on the slide again fair enough one of his loses is at a catchweight and the other is against a guy 'who' could have cheated. Personally I see Cotto at 154 as a bigger test than Pacman again my opinion.

I won't convince you but when you lose two special fighters like Floyd and Manny then when there gone you start to notice what your missing.

[jorg21]

But Mal by your own post Pacman beat every fighter on the slide in fact you could argue he picked fighters at the right time far better than any other fighter and I'll include MAB and EM in that.

Tell me another fighter like Floyd who has faced almost everyone his generation has had to offer and never official touched canvas ?  I've been watching boxing for close to thirty years and sat up to often to count into the wee small hours and I can't ever recall any other fighter who has actually never been in trouble in a fight.

Sure its my opinion and I'm entitled to it and yes the guy is a bit of a dick but fook me take the dislike out of it and people clutch at straws Ortiz might have got him on the ropes 'that' time if only Mosley could have landed another. Many on here said Floyd wouldn't ever step in the ring with Mosley or Cotto. Yet here we are talking about the fights.

Now sure you reckon Cotto is on the slide again fair enough one of his loses is at a catchweight and the other is against a guy 'who' could have cheated. Personally I see Cotto at 154 as a bigger test than Pacman again my opinion.

I won't convince you but when you lose two special fighters like Floyd and Manny then when there gone you start to notice what your missing.

The Cotto fight i'll say i don't think Cotto is on the slide and i think he will make it competitive but obviously he isn't as good as he used to be but come on really bringing the Mosley fight into it? The guy was shot and had 1 good round left in him he didn't fight a prime mosley that night so he didn't step in with th best Shane that night so you are contradicting yourself bringing up MAB an EM for Manny then saying no one expected Floyd to step in with Shane both Floyd and Manny and their camps know the times to fight a guy why didn't Floyd fight Shane a few years before he did?

[Mal]

Tell me another fighter like Floyd who has faced almost everyone his generation has had to offer and never official touched canvas ?  I've been watching boxing for close to thirty years and sat up to often to count into the wee small hours and I can't ever recall any other fighter who has actually never been in trouble in a fight.
 

Floyd has offically hit the canvas once when he hurt his hand or shoulder in the Hernendez fight and his glove touched the canvas, the ref called it although to be fair to Floyd it wasn't a proper knockdown.

Unofficially he should have been called for the Judah fight when his hand touched the canvas but got away with it like he somehow always manages to do with the raising of the elbow and crouching way below the legal waist line.

Your question is a tricky one because Floyd has a style that not many use. Hagler was once officially given a count from a slip, not a punch and he seen red over it, abused the ref and told him he was blind for memory. Up until that point he'd never touched the canvas. Monzon went his whole career without hitting the deck until his last fight, what's to say the same wont happen to Floyd? Guzman, Kessler and Johnson are some current fighters who have never been knocked down that I know of. but they don't share the same style of course so you have a point.

My point about Cotto being on the slide wasn't to indicate that he's washed up or even faded for that matter. I still think he has something to offer, will be dangerous but from here onwards will go down rather then up. I believe he has reached as far as he can and the only way is down for him from now onwards. I will give Floyd due credit if he beats him.

I will not engage in a Pacman debate with you because it might get some thinking I'm a fan or something. Besides, this is a Floyd thread, wouldn't wanna ruin it for everyone else by arguing over the thriller from manilla.

[Dexter_Morgan]

The Cotto fight i'll say i don't think Cotto is on the slide and i think he will make it competitive but obviously he isn't as good as he used to be but come on really bringing the Mosley fight into it? The guy was shot and had 1 good round left in him he didn't fight a prime mosley that night so he didn't step in with th best Shane that night so you are contradicting yourself bringing up MAB an EM for Manny then saying no one expected Floyd to step in with Shane both Floyd and Manny and their camps know the times to fight a guy why didn't Floyd fight Shane a few years before he did?

Jorg

Floyd called out Mosley years before it didn't happen sorry bud but after Mosley smashed Tony there were many posts on this forum saying Floyd would never set foot in a ring with a fighter like Mosley he did and he schooled him that's my point.

Reread what I post and its directed toward Mal using Mals logic both MAB and EM were finished when Manny fought them.