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« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2012, 12:06:57 AM »

well considering I've just watched the fight i dont recognise  your description of the fight at all. running to the point that Peterson was sprinting,  thats at best a huge exaggeration. Fighting off the back foot is a legitimate tactic, but running away with Peterson sprinting? Must have been watching a different fight to me. As for the point deductions you call them unusual, I call them unique, just like the unoffical judge and the scorecards doing a vanishing act.

Still even with thiose deductions i still had Khan winning by 2.

Its clear to me your dislike/hatred of Khan will always mean you will rejoice in his misfortune whether it be by fair means or as in this case foul. im afarid it isnt my head up my arse as you so eloquently put it, your obvious hate for the man means you could never be impartial so i will take your opinion with a pinch of salt.  The true fact is he never got a fair crack of the whip. Watch the HBO coverage of the fight, they seem to be of the same opinion.

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Whatever Pogo, the exact ramblings I predicted I'd read. Taking the easy way out, saying 'Oh you hate him etc etc You'll never give him his dues'. Rubbish. If Amir Khan won that fight I'd have said it, like I did with Maidana, Kotelnik etc. I've never taken one thing away from Khan that he was due. Unlike the mindless Khan followers that have attempted to strip away the credit Peterson earned with his blood ,sweat and effort. You say the best man didnt win? I'd like to hear your definition of what a winner should look/fight like.

Call it fighting off the back foot, but when a fighter is stumbling backwards at a rate of knots hoping to hold on to any fixed object he can, that is not an art of fighting. He held and pushed for one reason and one reason only, he felt like he was in big big trouble and didnt know what else to do.

You just trying to create a smoke and mirrors effect here, who cares what the UNOFFICIAL judge and the man in the Hat did, it didnt change the real scores of the fight in any way. Your crying wolf here and saying it was a fixed fight, when its as clear as day the ref made a tit of the knockdown in the first.

If Peterson had of lost because of that mistake, would he have put on that show?? No.

I've seen the HBO coverage, as I have also seen the HBO coverage in the Pacman and Marquez fight where Marquez clearly won. They always score fights for the Marquee/Network fighter. Dont dare play dumb on that fact. Also you should tune into the (live)Sky coverage where no one raised a query with the whole thing, only when Khan was sitting in the studio with them with a fat lip, black eye and annihilated ego did the mention any of the rubbish that we have been subjected to.

Don't try and put my opinions down to being a hater either, it just shows your own bias. I'd give any fighter his fair dues whether I like them or not. However the inane ramblings and blatant lies of Khan and his fans over a long period of time have made almost every boxing fan sick to death of him.
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« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2012, 12:13:37 AM »


FWIW, from http://www.boxingscene.com/wba-returns-title-amir-khan-strange-manuever--50271

Editor's Note: The WBA has since denied the information circulated by Khan, and stand firm that Peterson is still the WBA's super champion at 140-pounds
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« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2012, 12:25:06 AM »

Whatever Pogo, the exact ramblings I predicted I'd read. Taking the easy way out, saying 'Oh you hate him etc etc You'll never give him his dues'. Rubbish. If Amir Khan won that fight I'd have said it, like I did with Maidana, Kotelnik etc. I've never taken one thing away from Khan that he was due. Unlike the mindless Khan followers that have attempted to strip away the credit Peterson earned with his blood ,sweat and effort. You say the best man didnt win? I'd like to hear your definition of what a winner should look/fight like.

Call it fighting off the back foot, but when a fighter is stumbling backwards at a rate of knots hoping to hold on to any fixed object he can, that is not an art of fighting. He held and pushed for one reason and one reason only, he felt like he was in big big trouble and didnt know what else to do.

You just trying to create a smoke and mirrors effect here, who cares what the UNOFFICIAL judge and the man in the Hat did, it didnt change the real scores of the fight in any way. Your crying wolf here and saying it was a fixed fight, when its as clear as day the ref made a tit of the knockdown in the first.

If Peterson had of lost because of that mistake, would he have put on that show?? No.

I've seen the HBO coverage, as I have also seen the HBO coverage in the Pacman and Marquez fight where Marquez clearly won. They always score fights for the Marquee/Network fighter. Dont dare play dumb on that fact. Also you should tune into the (live)Sky coverage where no one raised a query with the whole thing, only when Khan was sitting in the studio with them with a fat lip, black eye and annihilated ego did the mention any of the rubbish that we have been subjected to.

Don't try and put my opinions down to being a hater either, it just shows your own bias. I'd give any fighter his fair dues whether I like them or not. However the inane ramblings and blatant lies of Khan and his fans over a long period of time have made almost every boxing fan sick to death of him.

You called him a coward when in reality it was a real good fight. Cowards dont put up good fights. As for your crap he was running  backwards and Peterson was sprinting after him, a blatant untruth. thats you putting your spin on things, creating "smoke and mirrors" as you like to put it.

Crying wolf? Well where did those cards disappear to to for 10 mins? Ive never seen anything like it before, another "unique" occurance. just like the man in the hat, how do you know he didnt change the scoring, in his own words he was "helping a judge that didnt feel well". Probably doing the scoring in other words. Whatever he was doing it was illegal, he shouldnt have had any access to the judges during the fight or before the score was announced.

" You say the best man didnt win? I'd like to hear your definition of what a winner should look/fight like. "

yes thats is what i say. i had Khan by 2 with deductions and by 4 if there were no deductions so the best guy didnt win imo. As for what a winner should look like your just being silly now. Khan had a black eye v Petersons closed right eye. Do away with the scorecards and we will give it to khan cos although his eye was back at least it was still open lol.
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« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2012, 12:32:52 AM »

"If its true or not true about the WBA handing bk the title, Id rather fight + win it, we al knw what happened last time + prove I'm the best" Grin Now stop being over dramatic the lot of you!
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« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2012, 04:43:49 AM »

These Alphabetical Belts are a joke now.
Their days are numbered.
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« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2012, 07:17:49 AM »

FWIW, from http://www.boxingscene.com/wba-returns-title-amir-khan-strange-manuever--50271

Editor's Note: The WBA has since denied the information circulated by Khan, and stand firm that Peterson is still the WBA's super champion at 140-pounds


More great PR from Team Khan  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2012, 08:29:15 AM »

hahaha ba BOOOOOOM!
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« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2012, 11:42:15 AM »

I hate to say this to anyone because this is all opinion based but Pull your head out of your arse Pogo because you are talking shit. Its well known the only change was that a 10-8 round was mistakenly put down in favour of Khan instead of Peterson when they were transferring the scores FROM the judges cards to the master scorecard. The judges were NEVER bothered by anybody. The only crime here was the IBF ran it like an amateur show and security wasnt tight enough. nothing effected the final result.

Declare it null and void?? What sort of an idea is that, millions watched the fight, 95% say it was rightly given to Peterson and you think we should all erase it from our memories and pretend we didnt see Khan stumbling around the ring, constantly holding on to stay in the fight, constantly pushing, constantly running to the point where Peterson was sprinting after him. Them things all happened and them things dont happen to men who win fights unless they get a knockout. If you want to discount the two point deductions which were unusual athough correct then fair enough. However lets also discount the bogus knockdown calls in the first. Neither were knockdowns, they were the product of an overrated fighter running at his opponent throwing flailing forearms elbows and accidentally tripping his opponent. They were farcical, and if the fighters were in opposite corners that is what the Khan camp and fans would be bullshitting on about.

The facts are. The IBF let themselves down. The fight was NOT , I repeat NOT, decided by any man in a hat or anyone other than three judges. The right man won in most fans eyes. The loser has embarrassed himself , the sport and his country with his actions. The winner has been nothing but respectful and has shown true character through the whole ordeal and rightfully agreed to a rematch.

End of, Peterson won the fight. Khan ran held, pushed and whinged his way to deserved loss and acted like a coward. How anyone defends it I'll never know.

Great post. Like I said its the first time I've ever seen a champion actually run away during a fight and the challenger have to jog/run after him. IMO Khan lost the fight.

I've also never understood the song and dance Team Khan has made about this they planned to drop the belts and move up to Welterweight anyway. So what's going to happen Khan will likely win the rematch then he drops the belts again ? At least Peterson will give it his all to hold on to them so I live in hope he can beat Khan.
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« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2012, 12:27:51 PM »

These Alphabetical Belts are a joke now.
Their days are numbered.

The problem is they have been a joke for a very very long time. The lot of them. The IBF are the best of a rotten pack and even then you can see how sly and snakey they have been over the years. To give them some credit though, atleast they haven't created these paper titles that the WBA created through greed, thanks to bloody Lennox Lewis. Old Jose and the WBC, not being one's to miss an extra buck jumped on the bandwagon and brought out some flaming silver belt thingy, whatever the fuk that is and honestly don't wanna know. I have always accepted the intrim belt and it's purpose, can't bring myself to terms with the rest of the blood sucking bastards things they have introduced, all in the name of greed.

These abc assholes have made a mockery of this sport for to long and rest assure they'll be thinking and plotting up new ways of sucking the fighters and sport for everything they can.

I gave up on who held what belt, who was champion and what not long ago. I judge fighters on their ability, what they do and who they fight. No amount of title's or paper belts rapped around a so called champion now makes any difference to my way of thinking, such is the mess these greedy cnuts have left the sport in. The sport is saturated with title's and belts, it's a damn joke and irks me more then anything other then crooked or bias judging
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« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2012, 01:32:08 PM »

Sorry Pogo mate,

Khan was running like a loon at times, in fact someone did a GIF of him on a unicycle from one clip.
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« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2012, 02:31:36 PM »

Sorry Pogo mate,

Khan was running like a loon at times, in fact someone did a GIF of him on a unicycle from one clip.


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« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2012, 02:59:43 PM »

I agree with Pogo in the respect that I would never listen to Red, Mooreman and the rest of the Khan haters opinion and take it seriously.  

That said,  if the WBA have given the belt back to Khan, that is a complete joke.   I dont agree that 2 points should of been taken away.  I think 1 point maximum and I do think the ref was very bias.  HOWEVER,  after the points were taken away I had Peterson winning by 1 round.  If 1 point was taken away, then it would of been a draw.  

There have been some real stinkers when it comes to scores, the recent Vitali v Chisora fight was dodgy and for me deserved looking into.  As have the past 2 Sturm fights.   The Khan fight was ligit scoring and I cant beleive the fuss that has been made.  
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« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2012, 03:09:53 PM »

im with red and mooreman.. the kid lost fair and square.

the problem is khan has too many people massaging his ego that he couldnt accept it so went on a f***ing whinge for god knows how many months until the wba gave in and gave him a belt.

i wonder if i whine enough i will get a belt as well??

f***ing joke this sport is sometimes, you dont see lewis hamilton complaining to the man with the flag or his team for not taking 1st place in a race, he just gets on does what he has to do..

sick of khan and his joke of a team, i hope that peterson kicks his f***ing arse from round 1 to round 12 and shows everyone why hes the champion.

everything they have done (team khan, amir) has been in some way negative whether it be sack sky off for primetime at the last minute then come grovelling back or they try and rubbish the ABA way back when or sacking trainers without any notice and this little number is just one more thing to the pile of shite he/they have brought to the sport CONSISTENTLY!

Oh sorry i forget there was the knocking the old man over in his bmw, the getting caught speeding in his other bmw...


im sure there is a pattern emerging.



WAR PETERSON!


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« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2012, 03:38:49 PM »

Yeh we get it now ....you hate him.


Oh and the irony of complaining about negativity in that classic hate post  Grin
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« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2012, 04:23:33 PM »

http://youtu.be/XEpQpOU5i8w

This video shows the pushing, the warnings and Khan's running. Peterson dominated the fight after the first couple of rounds.
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