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[pogo]

I agree with Pogo in the respect that I would never listen to Red, Mooreman and the rest of the Khan haters opinion and take it seriously.  

That said,  if the WBA have given the belt back to Khan, that is a complete joke.   I dont agree that 2 points should of been taken away.  I think 1 point maximum and I do think the ref was very bias.  HOWEVER,  after the points were taken away I had Peterson winning by 1 round.  If 1 point was taken away, then it would of been a draw.  

There have been some real stinkers when it comes to scores, the recent Vitali v Chisora fight was dodgy and for me deserved looking into.  As have the past 2 Sturm fights.   The Khan fight was ligit scoring and I cant beleive the fuss that has been made.  

Cheers mate i dont listen to their rubbish either. i dont need their approval as im more than capable of making my own mind up, unlike the majority the simply jump on the haters bandwagon.

[presa]

ive detailed a few reasons as to why i am not a fan Pogo, i dont like what he or his team are about, they blatantly cause problems wherever they go in the sport.

look at froch, straight back into a title fight, lost fair and square against ward made no big issues about it and got on with it.

khan lost and youve never heard so much shite... thats the difference.

as for the ref being 'OTT on Khan', i think you need to look back at the 'first recorded knockdown' it wasnt a proper knockdown it was a gift so i am not buying the ref was on his side.

i guess someones got to support the brat! 

[pogo]

ive detailed a few reasons as to why i am not a fan Pogo, i dont like what he or his team are about, they blatantly cause problems wherever they go in the sport.

look at froch, straight back into a title fight, lost fair and square against ward made no big issues about it and got on with it.

khan lost and youve never heard so much shite... thats the difference.

as for the ref being 'OTT on Khan', i think you need to look back at the 'first recorded knockdown' it wasnt a proper knockdown it was a gift so i am not buying the ref was on his side.

i guess someones got to support the brat!  

the thing is Khan has already proven the haters wrong. Remember when he got sparked from Prescott, the gone in 60 secs posts etc the haters had a field day, he would never come back from that etc. utter rubbish.

He has not done half bad considering he would never recover from that with his dodgy whiskers lol

He will be back with his titles intact, im confident.

ps the reason Froch  hasnt had nothing to say is he was outclassed big time. the gulf was massive. Froch plodded forward all night long with no success so what could he say. Peterson didnt outclass Khan by any stretch of the imagination, he was gifted the titles by circumstances that should never happen in a world title fight.

[presa]

the thing is Khan has already proven the haters wrong. Remember when he got sparked from Prescott, the gone in 60 secs posts etc the haters had a field day, he would never come back from that etc. utter rubbish.

He has not done half bad considering he would never recover from that with his dodgy whiskers lol

He will be back with his titles intact, im confident.

ps the reason Froch  hasnt had nothing to say is he was outclassed big time. the gulf was massive. Froch plodded forward all night long with no success so what could he say. Peterson didnt outclass Khan by any stretch of the imagination, he was gifted the titles by circumstances that should never happen in a world title fight.

are we watching the same fight here pogo?

[pogo]

are we watching the same fight here pogo?

Well dont know what fight you were watching but the scorecards were 115 -110 Kahn, 112 - 113 twice Peterson. even without the 2 point deduction those cards tell you there is no way Khan was outclassed by any stretch of the imagination.

a split decision that khan would have won without the deductions (or without the scorecards going missing for 10 mins)

[presa]

khan was outmuscled and outworked for 10 rounds!

[pogo]

khan was outmuscled and outworked for 10 rounds!

in your opinion, not in the opinion of the judges or myself.

compubox disagrees with you as well:

total punches Khan 238/757  Peterson  226/573

Dont look like Khan was outworked to me, he threw much more punches.

[BoxingRugbyFan]

in your opinion, not in the opinion of the judges or myself.

So the opinion of the judges are valid? So Khan did lose?

[pogo]

So the opinion of the judges are valid? So Khan did lose?

yip his record says he did, in unsatisfactory circumstances though. whatever my point that you are trying to twist  was he wasnt outclassed or  outworked. that is unless you are totally blinkered.

[BoxingRugbyFan]

yip his record says he did, in unsatisfactory circumstances though. whatever my point that you are trying to twist  was he wasnt outclassed or  outworked. that is unless you are totally blinkered.

I thought Khan won personally but it was a close and wasn't a robbery. But your saying the scorecards went missing and implying something dodgy happened and that the judges are wrong, and then you use the scorecards and the judges opinions to back up your point.

[pogo]

I thought Khan won personally but it was a close and wasn't a robbery. But your saying the scorecards went missing and implying something dodgy happened and that the judges are wrong, and then you use the scorecards and the judges opinions to back up your point.

Yes i believe that all wasnt proper and correct that night, the ref was Piss poor at best and pretty biased at worst, the man illegally "helping" a judge, the scorecards going missing. HBO claimed homecooking was going on, Im not inventing any of this, it did actually happen.

it has detracted from a great closely fought fight. If Khan was outworked how come he threw more punches in every round bar one?  that was the point i was making where Chuck Norris was trying to imply it was one sided in Petersons favor.

I had Khan by 2 even with those deductions but some of the rounds were a pig to score so fair enough the judges went for Peterson, but the whole set of circumstances should never happen in a world title fight. If you think boxing is whiter than white  and cheating never happens thats up to you, but I will never believe with everything that happened that night that Khan got a fair shot.

the good thing to come out of it is the rematch will be scrutinised so the same wont be able to happen again. i have already stated my belief that Khan is a superior fighter and i expect him to regain his title in much fairer circumstances.

[Skav]

I just scored the fight for the first time and had it for Khan 114-113. Neither bloke dominated the other and I expect the rematch to be close as well. Can't see Khan knocking out Peterson, especially as Khan was petrified of letting Peterson in close and hit him with his best shots.

[jimjack]

@ chuck Norris. I can see why people have an issue with the way khan reacted to the loss, but why do people insist on putting froch up as the bastion of good sportsmanship in all this? Froch is still moaning about the Kessler fight now, and to the best of my knowledge there was no dodgy bloke with a hat looking at the cards in Denmark. People really do construct poor arguments when blinded by love or hate.

[Red]

Khan is a total c*nt, and he strengthen's that opinion every passing month.

@ chuck Norris. I can see why people have an issue with the way khan reacted to the loss, but why do people insist on putting froch up as the bastion of good sportsmanship in all this? Froch is still moaning about the Kessler fight now, and to the best of my knowledge there was no dodgy bloke with a hat looking at the cards in Denmark. People really do construct poor arguments when blinded by love or hate.

Carl felt hard done by, especially when Showtime had him winning , to then get a single round awarded by Tillman in the first 10 rounds was a fix of the highest order.

Complain he may, but he didn't cry and sob to the WBC.

[pogo]

Khan is a total c*nt, and he strengthen's that opinion every passing month.

Carl felt hard done by, especially when Showtime had him winning , to then get a single round awarded by Tillman in the first 10 rounds was a fix of the highest order.

Complain he may, but he didn't cry and sob to the WBC.

Did the scorecards go missing that night in Denmark? was there a man helping the judges? Was the ref biased? did Froch lose points for something that no other boxer seems to lose points for?

If Froch had the same set of circumstances as khan that night im sure we would have heard about it. I thought Froch lost fair and square, but in Washington that night there was a lot that went on that shouldnt have.