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[presa]

well if your gonna criticise anyone for hyping a fighter up maybe you shouldnt be using Red as back up, cos he has hyped up a talentless slugger for years into some kind of Rocky figure when in reality he is pretty mince.

I dont recall ever comparing Khan to either Donaire or Gamboa, or ever calling him an elite fighter which i know he isnt. He is/was a decent world champ though but i do like the fact that Khan has went on to prove Red and the rest of the haters wrong when they gloated so much about him getting  sparked from Prescott. He was washed up they said, badly exposed , never come back from that then he went on to world honours. Couldnt be more wrong really.

And if he goes on to regain his titles again like i think he will im sure gonna enjoy him proving the haters wrong yet again.

As for Bradley he is pretty pathetic really, calling a fighter out , getting the chance to make the fight  then having a change of heart.  once Pacman devalues him then i hope Khan dont give him the opportunity.

so what your saying is this is a hate red and any other doubter of 'KING KHAN' campaign by you?

im confused we are talking boxing here pogo and the fact is khan is not as good as he or his team actually think he is.. he has acted like a spoilt brat in defeat when infact it was he who was too arrogant to keep a belt back just incase he lost he complains to every person possible.

i take it you disagree with all the sky people who had him losing as well and half the country ?

the person i feel for currently is lamont as the guy bust his ass in that fight and khan and his horrible little clan of followers have done their best to taint any form of a good victory.

i hope his little brother doesnt bother turning over as hes an even bigger pain in the arse!

[Red]

Pogo is a calzaghe troll from the old forum.

Not interested in facts, only winning and losing arguments.

Hence defending the indefensible.

[pogo]

so what your saying is this is a hate red and any other doubter of 'KING KHAN' campaign by you?

im confused we are talking boxing here pogo and the fact is khan is not as good as he or his team actually think he is.. he has acted like a spoilt brat in defeat when infact it was he who was too arrogant to keep a belt back just incase he lost he complains to every person possible.

i take it you disagree with all the sky people who had him losing as well and half the country ?

the person i feel for currently is lamont as the guy bust his ass in that fight and khan and his horrible little clan of followers have done their best to taint any form of a good victory.

i hope his little brother doesnt bother turning over as hes an even bigger pain in the arse!

Your a bit of a word twister arent you. Where in any of my posts did i say i hate Red or any Khan doubters?

Ive never seen eye to eye with Red on hardly any boxing matters going back to when Calzaghe ruled the world, that is true, I dislike Froch  but that aint enough to make me hate. Cant say i hate anyone on this site.

Well i disagree with the sky folk (even though i have never watched sky coverage of the fight) in the same way you disagree with all the HBO folk who say the deductions were ridiculous and there was "homecooking" going  on. Your half the country comment is a throw away remark as I doubt you have canvassed the population. IMO Khan has every right to complain about the night he lost his titles as there was illegal and unique circumstances going on that left the door open for accusations of cheating and skullduggery.

Talking about hate its you and the rest of the Khan doubters that got the problem with hating. I think its a well known fact that Khan has always been hated in this country, even back in his amateur days. It never bothered me cos Ive always preferred a boxer to a slugger, but i have my own thoughts about what would stir up the level of resentment  that Khan has suffered from day 1.

[pogo]

Pogo is a calzaghe troll from the old forum.

Not interested in facts, only winning and losing arguments.

Hence defending the indefensible.

na you just dont like someone who you cant dictate to.

[Chri5123]

C'mon guys!

He was upset with the decision so he deserves his belts back!

There is no point in this rematch - so what they are actually saying is "Yes he was robbed - here's your belts"

FACT:

It WAS a hometown decision BUT Peterson did enough to win in HIS hometown.

If it were the other way round would Peterson of even complained or got the rematch AND his belts back?

Has this even happened before?

Chris

[Aaron]

na you just dont like someone who you cant dictate to.

 

Listen to what your saying man, ffs.

[HurricaneHig]

Listen to what your saying man, ffs.

I know, whats he thinking 

[presa]

Your a bit of a word twister arent you. Where in any of my posts did i say i hate Red or any Khan doubters?

Ive never seen eye to eye with Red on hardly any boxing matters going back to when Calzaghe ruled the world, that is true, I dislike Froch  but that aint enough to make me hate. Cant say i hate anyone on this site.

Well i disagree with the sky folk (even though i have never watched sky coverage of the fight) in the same way you disagree with all the HBO folk who say the deductions were ridiculous and there was "homecooking" going  on. Your half the country comment is a throw away remark as I doubt you have canvassed the population. IMO Khan has every right to complain about the night he lost his titles as there was illegal and unique circumstances going on that left the door open for accusations of cheating and skullduggery.

Talking about hate its you and the rest of the Khan doubters that got the problem with hating. I think its a well known fact that Khan has always been hated in this country, even back in his amateur days. It never bothered me cos Ive always preferred a boxer to a slugger, but i have my own thoughts about what would stir up the level of resentment  that Khan has suffered from day 1.

pogo it is you who said i am hating on khan when in actual fact i am disagreeing with what you are saying so that makes me a hater.. well we all haters then! haha

i have given you reasons as to why khan is not liked, why khan is not rated highly by alot and why he lost his fight.

i look forward to lamont stickin on his chest for 12 rounds and battering him again.

[Red]

na you just dont like someone who you cant dictate to.

Your entitled to your opinion Pogo.

He lost fair and square - and ever since their handpicked fight blew up in their faces, they've dug up one mardy excuse after another.

He is the 'super champion' of complaining. Practically in tears throughout his commentary for Sky and appearance on Ringside. He's a spoilt boy, not a man I'm afraid.

He's happy avoiding Prescott and McCloskey & Barerra fights were they got cut and he wouldn't entertain a rematch for a split second. Suddenly he wakes up battered and bruised and realises that he was so cock sure of winning they never had a rematch clause and then began pointing the finger at everyone and anyone - BUT HIMSELF.

Credit to Peterson, he's just kept his nose out of it. Class act.

[Skav]

well if your gonna criticise anyone for hyping a fighter up maybe you shouldnt be using Red as back up, cos he has hyped up a talentless slugger for years into some kind of Rocky figure when in reality he is pretty mince.

I dont recall ever comparing Khan to either Donaire or Gamboa, or ever calling him an elite fighter which i know he isnt. He is/was a decent world champ though but i do like the fact that Khan has went on to prove Red and the rest of the haters wrong when they gloated so much about him getting  sparked from Prescott. He was washed up they said, badly exposed , never come back from that then he went on to world honours. Couldnt be more wrong really.

And if he goes on to regain his titles again like i think he will im sure gonna enjoy him proving the haters wrong yet again.

As for Bradley he is pretty pathetic really, calling a fighter out , getting the chance to make the fight  then having a change of heart.  once Pacman devalues him then i hope Khan dont give him the opportunity.

You mentioned this earlier. That was a business reason as to why Bradley avoided Khan. He wanted either Pacquiao or Mayweather and a loss to Khan would have destroyed them hopes. But it does go to show that Bradley must have thought highly of Khan if he didn't want to go through him first.

[stephen thompson]

Or maybe he just didn't want to line his old promoters pockets.

[Scarface]

Your entitled to your opinion Pogo.

He lost fair and square - and ever since their handpicked fight blew up in their faces, they've dug up one mardy excuse after another.

He is the 'super champion' of complaining. Practically in tears throughout his commentary for Sky and appearance on Ringside. He's a spoilt boy, not a man I'm afraid.

He's happy avoiding Prescott and McCloskey & Barerra fights were they got cut and he wouldn't entertain a rematch for a split second. Suddenly he wakes up battered and bruised and realises that he was so cock sure of winning they never had a rematch clause and then began pointing the finger at everyone and anyone - BUT HIMSELF.

Credit to Peterson, he's just kept his nose out of it. Class act.

Its the "fair and square" part that has opinions divided red. That's why a rematch is necessary.

I would say fair and square would be khans outing against prescott. This one was a close decision win in controversial circumstances.

Also I don't understand why you refer to Peterson as a "Bum". Why the animosity toward Peterson
All because he registered a loss against Bradley... why is that so embarrassing ??

It implies that Tim Bradley is a waste of space and losing against him makes you worthless as a boxer.

I think you need to give Peterson his dues, seriously. 

[The_Answer]

Its the "fair and square" part that has opinions divided red. That's why a rematch is necessary.

I would say fair and square would be khans outing against prescott. This one was a close decision win in controversial circumstances.

Also I don't understand why you refer to Peterson as a "Bum". Why the animosity toward Peterson
All because he registered a loss against Bradley... why is that so embarrassing ??

It implies that Tim Bradley is a waste of space and losing against him makes you worthless as a boxer.

I think you need to give Peterson his dues, seriously. 

Bum is abit harsh but he's nothing special he's a mediocre world level contender who managed to overcome a half decent mediocre champion in Khan there about the same level in my book.

The extent of Petersons ability was showcased by Bradley who shut him out 120 - 107 beating a world contender by that score doesn't imply you're a waste of space it just reiterates the massive gap in class.

We will see another close fight in the rematch settled by one or two rounds... whoever wins is irrelevant as neither fighter has any more steps to climb without incurring further losses...

[Scarface]

Bum is abit harsh but he's nothing special he's a mediocre world level contender who managed to overcome a half decent mediocre champion in Khan there about the same level in my book.

The extent of Petersons ability was showcased by Bradley who shut him out 120 - 107 beating a world contender by that score doesn't imply you're a waste of space it just reiterates the massive gap in class.

We will see another close fight in the rematch settled by one or two rounds... whoever wins is irrelevant as neither fighter has any more steps to climb without incurring further losses...

If manny ko's bradley with one punch... I will be surprised.

I watched the Peterson v Bradley full fight on youtube - and honestly I didn't see anything that would make me think that Peterson is a "bum".

He made bradley work every minute of those 12 rounds... and his performance was nothing to be ashamed of.

Bradley won the fight - no doubt, however, I for one didn't have Bradley winning every single round like the judges had scored it.

If the fight were to have been in Washington rather than bradleys home state... I would argue that Peterson may have had even more drive than he showed that night. Certainly the scores would have been more sensible.

I think Bradley should be proud of defeating Peterson and find it somewhat unfair to have his win reduced/diminished as though he had beaten a journeyman fighter.

I'm really looking forward to Bradley v Pacman..... I smell an upset here. Peterson landed an almighty right hand on bradley in the 5th round - but he remained solid.

I think its going to be very difficult for manny... more than people think.  

[The_Answer]

I watched the Peterson v Bradley full fight on youtube - and honestly I didn't see anything that would make me think that Peterson is a "bum".

He made bradley work every minute of those 12 rounds... and his performance was nothing to be ashamed of.

Bradley won the fight - no doubt, however, I for one didn't have Bradley winning every single round like the judges had scored it.

If the fight were to have been in Washington rather than bradleys home state... I would argue that Peterson may have had even more drive than he showed that night. Certainly the scores would have been more sensible.

I think Bradley should be proud of defeating Peterson and find it somewhat unfair to have his win reduced/diminished as though he had beaten a journeyman fighter.

I'm really looking forward to Bradley v Pacman..... I smell an upset here. Peterson landed an almighty right hand on bradley in the 5th round - but he remained solid.

I think its going to be very difficult for manny... more than people think.   

Bum Peterson is not but if you're a world class boxer with a view to mixing it with the best in the sport then he's someone you need to be beating convincingly... He's limited in terms of boxing ability, comes at you straight forward and does nothing exceptionally.

Taking the above into account and if he's still causing you problems to the point of making a good case of beating you chances are you've about reached your limit on the boxing ability ladder. As i said in my previous post who ever gets the nod in the rematch has no 'up' without further strikes on there record just sideways and down.

Timothy Bradley and more recently Devon Alexander have shown that opponents Khan is struggling with aren't special or really that good...

As for the Pacman fight you've got it spot on Bradley will ask more questions then Manny and Roach have prepared answers for.