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« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2012, 03:58:35 AM »

Dammit Sad Khan just spoke we all know where this thread is going!  Grin
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« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2012, 04:01:40 AM »

Am i the only one hearing this?

Sky's commentary have just said and i quote based on that evidence he's up there with Mayweather and Pacquiao...

It's Matthew Macklin for F sake!!

on that note i'm going to bed before i vomit.
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« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2012, 04:04:24 AM »

The commentary is making me feel ill  Lips Sealed

Of course Martinez looks slick and useful he's fighting a european level fighter !!!

Yeah he won at a canter again.

Martinez badly needs a real challenge. Badly. Its getting boring now.
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« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2012, 04:09:04 AM »

Matt was boxing ok up until the 7th then after the knockdown Martinez woke up and after that it was 1 way traffic.
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« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2012, 04:27:10 AM »

I don't care what anyone else says.
Sergio Martinez is a very exciting fighter to watch.
Maklin came with a perfect Gameplan after watching tapes of Sergio.He patiently stalked him without opening up or giving anything to counter.
After getting his footwork right he began to land clean on Sergio and the fight was up for Grabs in the 7th.
Then Sergio was forced to dig deep and put him away in the 11th.
So his last 4 fights have all ended in stoppages,you can't fault him for that.
At least there was an atmosphere and Drama in this fight,so it was a good Promotion from Dibella.
The cards were close and it turned out to be a better night than what many had anticipated.

Lets see if the Name fighters will risk fighting him.
I can bet my left nut that Arum will maneuver his Golden Goose again to avoid the match up,so he can Milk more Cash from his paper Chump.
As for Maklin he did very well and will get more US fights and lets see him against Daniel Geale in Jersey or New york.
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« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2012, 08:46:21 AM »

How did everybody on livefight have this at the time of stoppage??
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« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2012, 09:36:24 AM »

Sergio's got that extra world-class gear that sets him apart after round 8.

When your opponent is matching you in some areas, fitness will always be the decider I feel.

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« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2012, 02:01:03 PM »


Great heart shown by Macklin but Martinez just showed he was different gravy altogether
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« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2012, 02:09:08 PM »

How did everybody on livefight have this at the time of stoppage??

I had Martinez miles in front.  I completely disagreed with almost everything Jim Watt was saying.  I thought Martinez was bossing the fight and landing all the crisp, hurtful shots.  Macklin was taking them well but kept walking into rasping left leads and staying around for counter rights, but the damage really started to tell in the later rounds and eventually his punch resistance gave out.

I felt it was similar to Pacquiao-Marquez in that regard.  Except Marquez held up a lot better and didn't deteriorate at all.

Thus, people were saying it was close in the middle rounds, but it just wasn't close at all.  There was a gulf in class, but Macklin was occasionally catching Martinez a little straight up and those punches were a bit more obvious than the faster digs Martinez was landing as the two came together.  Again, really similar to Pacquiao-Marquez.

I mean, for instance, the 5th round Martinez was dishing out a beating yet Jim Watt scored that for Macklin because he landed a few slow looping (easy-to-see) shots in exchanges in the early parts of the round.

I felt that Martinez could have stepped that up at almost any moment and really caused Macklin problems, but he was enjoying the thinking match and knew he could finish the fight late on, so took his time and slowly built up the level of punishment.

This was really in evidence after the "knock down" of Martinez (whilst there was a punch, it had nothing on it, but a tangle of legs caused Martinez to stumble).  Martinez, pissed off, went after Macklin and had him badly hurt by the bell of that round.

The judges who had Martinez 4 points in front were probably about right.  Anything less was way off, and the judge who had it a draw was frankly blind.
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2012, 06:11:00 PM »

The commentary is making me feel ill  Lips Sealed

Of course Martinez looks slick and useful he's fighting a european level fighter !!!
European Level fighter who should have been World Champion after beating Sturm,only to be screwed by the judges.
The bottom line is Sergio is way more exciting by a long way than some fighter who recently signed with Top Rank.
I would rather watch Sergio any day than that Top Rank fella.
 
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2012, 09:39:21 PM »

European Level fighter who should have been World Champion after beating Sturm,only to be screwed by the judges.
The bottom line is Sergio is way more exciting by a long way than some fighter who recently signed with Top Rank.
I would rather watch Sergio any day than that Top Rank fella.
 
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Sturm fought the wrong fight... not that I rate Sturm anyway because i dont. Last night was a great example regional level fighter Kerry Hope beating the undefeated Proksa because he stood and traded with him just like Sturm did with Macklin. It still doesnt change the fact that Macklin is european level and he will never win a world title as long as he lives probably won't even get another shot at one...

It's easy for Sergio to look exciting and world class infront of domestic and european level fighters and he shouldn't be praised for it like Sky's pundits did last night. This was a pre determind fight it enhances Sergio's career no where further, it answers no more questions and nobody can justify rating him higher because of what took place last night.

As much as you like Sergio for one commentator to say you can definetly see why he's up there with Mayweather and Pacquiao for outboxing Matthew Macklin is absolutley disgusting. If he was outboxing the likes of Cotto then fair enough i'd be happy to hear that asessment. Mayweather and Manny have spent over a decade demolishing elite fighters but wait Sergio has outboxed Macklin he definetly is up there with him... it's ridiculous!

Make a dig at Bradley all you want but atleast he isn't fighting Lee Mcallister or Giuseppe Lauri we all know he'd make a mockery of them if he ever did and if it somehow someway was to happen i certainly wouldn't rate him higher after he'd beat them senseless it's expected - pre determined.

I'd pay to see Martinez leave his arms down by his side pissing around with James Kirkland he'd take his head off...

Come on Sergio challenge yourself for christ sake!!!
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2012, 10:05:10 PM »

Fight was decent for me, nothing better. Sergio thrown rounds away by walking round too much, as matt was not massively aggressive he seemed to struggle for ideas. Good effort by matt but a p4p rated fighter should be beating him with some to spare, Martinez needs to buck up his ideas.
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« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2012, 10:09:20 PM »

I seem to be in the minority here but i just dont get the hype, frankly Martinez' last two performances were not ones of a P4P top 5 fighter

Macklin frankly isnt that good and should have dispatched with a lot more clinical ease

Give me Monzon any day of the week
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« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2012, 10:23:09 PM »

I seem to be in the minority here but i just dont get the hype, frankly Martinez' last two performances were not ones of a P4P top 5 fighter

Macklin frankly isnt that good and should have dispatched with a lot more clinical ease

Give me Monzon any day of the week

I genuinly think he might be lacking motivation at the minute, he got his awesome win over Williams and can't get a decent money making fights. Macklin and barker are guys he would of expected to face had he lost to Williams.
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« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2012, 01:26:20 AM »

I seem to be in the minority here but i just dont get the hype, frankly Martinez' last two performances were not ones of a P4P top 5 fighter

Macklin frankly isnt that good and should have dispatched with a lot more clinical ease

Give me Monzon any day of the week

Agreed. The sooner he gets it on with Chavez Jr, the better. I can already see people say that Chavez wasn't as good as people knew he wasn't but the fans will give Martinez respect for ending him on the world scene.
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