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[cocksuckinknowitall]

A sweet science and not a vehicle to be used to appeal to the base instincts of marauding thugs.  Time was when you never saw one bit of trouble in the crowd at a boxing match, now it's commonplace.

You say you're old then you just gloss over reality like it's an old colour that can be just painted over...

Wherever there's alcohol, there's fighting.  It is timeless.  This year, last year, last decade, the 90s, the 80s, the 1800s, back to before Christ was born.  Just because you didn't attend places that fights broke out, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  I've been to plenty of events that were civil overall, but also been to a few where things do go sour - almost always alcohol influenced.

If anything, these days it is far better because of better policing, more CCTV and a better indentification of transgressors.

I can't quote specific incidents nor am I prepared to do the research into it.  However, I remember the riots when Judah was assailed, or Bowe fans invaded the ring.  Back before the 90s, far fewer events were recorded, so word of mouth was generally the vehicle for reporting incidents, thus far fewer broke through the national press.  I just think you are romanticizing the past.  The 80s was a nightmare for football hooligans.  Are you going to say, with a straight face, that the fight game didn't have any such "characters" in its crowds?  I'd suggest you were liar if you do.

[Gadje]

Minter vs Hagler

[downsey]

hrbie hide audley harrison harrison was in the ring with the mike calming things down del a hoya mayweather there was fighting at the back where i was on that sad day when ben thought mclanen thay was fighting there also mike tyson hollyfield 2

[Bonters]

You say you're old then you just gloss over reality like it's an old colour that can be just painted over...

Wherever there's alcohol, there's fighting.  It is timeless.  This year, last year, last decade, the 90s, the 80s, the 1800s, back to before Christ was born.  Just because you didn't attend places that fights broke out, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  I've been to plenty of events that were civil overall, but also been to a few where things do go sour - almost always alcohol influenced.

If anything, these days it is far better because of better policing, more CCTV and a better indentification of transgressors.

I can't quote specific incidents nor am I prepared to do the research into it.  However, I remember the riots when Judah was assailed, or Bowe fans invaded the ring.  Back before the 90s, far fewer events were recorded, so word of mouth was generally the vehicle for reporting incidents, thus far fewer broke through the national press.  I just think you are romanticizing the past.  The 80s was a nightmare for football hooligans.  Are you going to say, with a straight face, that the fight game didn't have any such "characters" in its crowds?  I'd suggest you were liar if you do.

Oh good, let's all condone this behaviour then.   

[cocksuckinknowitall]

Oh good, let's all condone this behaviour then.   

There's a big difference between condoning it and saying I'll watch him fight again.

I'm waiting for the condemnation of Wladimir for intimidating his brother's opponents or bullshitting opponents whilst he negotiates other contracts, or the condemnation of Charles Giles (head of the BBBoC) who was supposed to be representing British interests in Germany but went AWOL (only to reveal his expenses were paid by the WBC, of which he is the VP...).  Fortunately people are rightly slating Haye for throwing a punch clasping a bottle and throwing random objects into crowds.

Chisora is unpredictable, but are you as condemning of Mike Tyson?  Was he bad for boxing?

[Bonters]

There's a big difference between condoning it and saying I'll watch him fight again.

I'm waiting for the condemnation of Wladimir for intimidating his brother's opponents or bullshitting opponents whilst he negotiates other contracts, or the condemnation of Charles Giles (head of the BBBoC) who was supposed to be representing British interests in Germany but went AWOL (only to reveal his expenses were paid by the WBC, of which he is the VP...).  Fortunately people are rightly slating Haye for throwing a punch clasping a bottle and throwing random objects into crowds.

Chisora is unpredictable, but are you as condemning of Mike Tyson?  Was he bad for boxing?

Oh yes, mate, I have long since condemned Tyson for the most barbaric act I have ever witnessed in a boxing ring.  He should never, ever have been allowed through the ropes again.  I fail to see how anyone could reasonably argue against that.  BUT of course, he could still make a lot of money for a lot of people and so the rules were "relaxed".  His achievements in boxing prior to that were legendary, no doubt about it.  I could even cut him some slack on the rape conviction, given that some woman apparently thought she was going alone with Iron Mike to his hotel room to play tiddleywinks!  But the ear biting was just horrendous.  Barbarism at it's very worst.  Nobody in their right mind could ever argue otherwise.  It was unprovoked, uncalled for, and just an occasion when the bullying Tyson was not getting things his own way in the ring.  But most fans tend to try and sweep it under the carpet in his case, and employ some kinda selective memory.  Chisora's achievements in the sport don't come anywhere near, and I doubt they ever will.  Maybe I was being a bit purist, but I do think there's a case for coming down hard on this kind of yobbish behaviour, before it descends into total farce. 

[cocksuckinknowitall]

Oh yes, mate, I have long since condemned Tyson for the most barbaric act I have ever witnessed in a boxing ring.  He should never, ever have been allowed through the ropes again.  I fail to see how anyone could reasonably argue against that.  BUT of course, he could still make a lot of money for a lot of people and so the rules were "relaxed".  His achievements in boxing prior to that were legendary, no doubt about it.  I could even cut him some slack on the rape conviction, given that some woman apparently thought she was going alone with Iron Mike to his hotel room to play tiddleywinks!  But the ear biting was just horrendous.  Barbarism at it's very worst.  Nobody in their right mind could ever argue otherwise.  It was unprovoked, uncalled for, and just an occasion when the bullying Tyson was not getting things his own way in the ring.  But most fans tend to try and sweep it under the carpet in his case, and employ some kinda selective memory.  Chisora's achievements in the sport don't come anywhere near, and I doubt they ever will.  Maybe I was being a bit purist, but I do think there's a case for coming down hard on this kind of yobbish behaviour, before it descends into total farce. 

So you didn't watch Lewis Tyson then.