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[The_Answer]

Check out all the Khan hate on this thread.  Wow.

It's a perfectly valid thing for him to say.  He's been fighting at the highest level for the last few years.  Why would he go digging in the domestic scene?  Kell Brook has to prove himself on the world stage before he gets in with the likes of Khan, Ortiz, Berto etc.Some real bias going on here, jumping up and down over a nothing comment.

Would you all react with the same consternation if this was Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto saying it?  Or Malignaggi or Berto?  You have to climb the proverbial rungs before the top top fighters will give you the time of day.

Hang on a minute Charlie two fights ago Khan was fighting Paul McCloskey... Kell has every bit as good a record then Paul had or has even now.

Why say you've never heard of Kell when he's more established and people have a much higher opinion of him then the guy he fought 11 months ago...

He's a walking whingefest of contradiction... Why defend him? Nobody is saying the fight should happen right now.

[cocksuckinknowitall]

Define highest level Charlie.

Because Zab Judah, Paul McLoskey, Lamont Peterson, Marcos Maidana, Paulie Malignaggi and Andres Kotelnik aren't my idea of highest level.

A lot of C class with a bit of B- but a long way from highest level.

Maidana beat Ortiz, whom Mayweather just fought.  Peterson only lost to Bradley, drew with Ortiz, beat a few names including Cayo, and showed his mettle against Khan.  Malignaggi was good enough for Hatton and has been operating at the top level for several years.  McKloskey had been plugging away for years without recognition (compared to Kell Brook who really just announced himself on a bigger stage with the Hatton win) although perhaps wasn't the most deserving of a shot.  Judah has always been a big name and was at the top of his Christian revival, and Khan made him look silly and beat him better than Mayweather did.

Hate on Khan all you like, but he's on the rung below the elites, and Kell Brook is back on the European rung a couple more down.  You look up, not down, and when you do look down its usually to help you move up.  That's not knocking Brook.  He's just not had a chance to develop his career yet.

Khan has many flaws, but his recent opponents are not as dire as you make out, even moreso when compared to some of the other champions.

[Socrates]

You just gave a list of reasons confirming why those guys aren't the highest level. It was basically a list of fights they lost.

If you're moving up a division and coming off a loss I'd say it's pretty arrogant to look up.

[Aaron]

To those saying let Kell step up and prove himself at world level etc then face khan, who did Amir beat to do that and get his shot at kotelnik?

It's a contradiction a guy without one fringe world class performer on his record before his title shot telling another one to face whoever.

Khans best win prior to his title was a blown up over the hill Barrera, and he had a loss on his record before he got their.

Kell is shifting good tickets, cleaned up domestically which khan never did, and has every right to start asking for the fight imo. Matt Hatton ain't a world beater, but he is a more credible win than khan had at domestic level.

Maybe if Kell gets put on his arse by some blown up featherweights and ko'd off a nobody he has more right to ask for it?

To finish, who did Paul macloskey beat to earn his shot Amir?

Khan knows brook is a major threat and is concerned, that is all.

[7777]

Hang on a minute Charlie two fights ago Khan was fighting Paul McCloskey... Kell has every bit as good a record then Paul had or has even now.

Why say you've never heard of Kell when he's more established and people have a much higher opinion of him then the guy he fought 11 months ago...

He's a walking whingefest of contradiction... Why defend him? Nobody is saying the fight should happen right now.

This is it for me. He had just commentated on Kell Brook's fight FFS, why make out you have no idea who he is 

He could have been respectful and said Brook is a good fighter and maybe it's something that could happen down the line

It was defo the final straw for me, the lad is a prize bulb

He may need Brook for a domestic return particularly if Peterson smacks his arse

[Gadje]

Who is at a higher level then? Apart from Bradley who Khan wanted to fight but not the other way round, as Bradleys quote about fighting Amir at the time showed. I see nobody at a different level where he has been fighting. Then when he mentions fighting someone like a Mayweather he is an uppity wee gobsh*te isn't he?  If he moves up there are good Welters he will face but I can't say any are top tier either.
Basically he will never get any credit from a group of haters on here. No balance at all. But what to expect from people who go stalking a boxer on the internet to pull up crap to quote.

[Aaron]

Who is at a higher level then? Apart from Bradley who Khan wanted to fight but not the other way round, as Bradleys quote about fighting Amir at the time showed. I see nobody at a different level where he has been fighting. Then when he mentions fighting someone like a Mayweather he is an uppity wee gobsh*te isn't he?  If he moves up there are good Welters he will face but I can't say any are top tier either.
Basically he will never get any credit from a group of haters on here. No balance at all. But what to expect from people who go stalking a boxer on the internet to pull up crap to quote.

I think Ortiz would rip khan appart.

When you lose to the petersons of this world you are a gobshite for talking a fight with Floyd.

[mooreman]

Ortiz would have the power to knock Khan out once he landed, I'm pretty sure he'd walk through what Khan has too.

[grizzlyadams]

I heard Khan stopped Ortiz in two in the amateurs, has anyone ever come across the footage?

[Aaron]

I heard Khan stopped Ortiz in two in the amateurs, has anyone ever come across the footage?

Can't find anything.

Ortiz is huge at welter now though, he has shoulders like a middleweight. I can't see Khan having what it takes to keep him off the whole fight, Ortiz was able to force Floyd back and although he could hardly land anything I think that would be different vs Khan.

[Red]

I heard Khan stopped Ortiz in two in the amateurs, has anyone ever come across the footage?

If memory serves me correct it was a points stoppage.

when you are so many points ahead it's declared a win.

Different kettle of fish in the pro game, over 12 rounds, no head gear and small gloves. An accumulation of taps wont stop you, but 1 thundering shot will do !

*cough* Breidis *cough*

[grizzlyadams]

If memory serves me correct it was a points stoppage.

when you are so many points ahead it's declared a win.

Different kettle of fish in the pro game, over 12 rounds, no head gear and small gloves. An accumulation of taps wont stop you, but 1 thundering shot will do !

*cough* Breidis *cough*

Cheers red, I had heard he stopped him but never heard anything else about. Spot on mate, different story in the pro's and at 147

[mooreman]

Can't find anything.

Ortiz is huge at welter now though, he has shoulders like a middleweight. I can't see Khan having what it takes to keep him off the whole fight, Ortiz was able to force Floyd back and although he could hardly land anything I think that would be different vs Khan.

Berto is a very strong Welter and struggled badly with Ortiz's  size and strength!!!

[Aaron]

Berto is a very strong Welter and struggled badly with Ortiz's  size and strength!!!

Yeah, he looked a divisions bigger than Floyd and Floyd aint a small welter anymore. While Khan does have size I just don't think he could hold Ortiz off for a full 36 minutes and would be worn down.

[presa]

Who is at a higher level then? Apart from Bradley who Khan wanted to fight but not the other way round, as Bradleys quote about fighting Amir at the time showed. I see nobody at a different level where he has been fighting. Then when he mentions fighting someone like a Mayweather he is an uppity wee gobsh*te isn't he?  If he moves up there are good Welters he will face but I can't say any are top tier either.
Basically he will never get any credit from a group of haters on here. No balance at all.  But what to expect from people who go stalking a boxer on the internet to pull up crap to quote.

is this aimed at myself?

i was searching for khan training material. but i stumbled across this.