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« on: April 07, 2012, 03:23:38 PM » |
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what are your thoughts on it?
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« on: April 07, 2012, 03:23:38 PM » |
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 04:48:12 PM » |
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Mixed feelings.....
Its a way for some to feel like they're something for a day, to sell a few tickets and make a few quid. Its also a way for some to cop a vicious beating in front of all their friends.
I've pondered giving it a whirl and keeping my amateur background hidden. But its that type of thing thats the danger with White Collar boxing.
Its very hard to guarantee we see fair fights. Its definitely open to abuse and there are some people at it who are frankly complete toss. In all honesty i think its a bit disrespectful to boxing as though its a sport where anyone can have a go.....hence why i quite like the idea of teaching someone the error of their ways. You don't play with boxing!
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 05:51:17 PM » |
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Nonsense, either get in there properly or stay out.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 06:20:00 PM » |
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If its well run, by a proper boxing club and coaches who respect the sport and want to teach it properly then its a brilliant experience. If its a moneymaking racket by a few fitness instructors and gyms its just a disgrace.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2012, 06:54:06 PM » |
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I love boxing, but never had the discipline when younger to give it a go , aged 40 odd I now can - As long as it is well run I am well for it
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2012, 07:27:46 PM » |
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I hate it its not properly licensed and there is no proper control, regulation and medical facilities attached to it. If a fighter is juiced up he is effectively cheating and there is no way of checking if people who do it have a brain abnormality or undiagnosed medical condition such as HIV are putting there own health and more importantly there opponent in danger.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2012, 09:13:40 PM » |
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I think it has its place and I blame the amateur ranks for the problem after the age of 33 you can't box as an amateur so for someone wanting to train in boxing and compete there really limited. If you compare this to martial arts where I'm unaware of any age restriction then boxing shots itself in the foot IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2012, 01:32:04 PM » |
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I think it has its place and I blame the amateur ranks for the problem after the age of 33 you can't box as an amateur so for someone wanting to train in boxing and compete there really limited. If you compare this to martial arts where I'm unaware of any age restriction then boxing shots itself in the foot IMO.
I believe there is now a seniors league where people aged 34-40 can box amateur, against boxers of similar age and experience. I'm not sure if it is up and running right now but I was discussing it with some ABA officials about 12 months ago and it sounded like it was going to happen. |
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2012, 02:05:46 PM » |
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I believe there is now a seniors league where people aged 34-40 can box amateur, against boxers of similar age and experience. I'm not sure if it is up and running right now but I was discussing it with some ABA officials about 12 months ago and it sounded like it was going to happen.
Its about time something was put in place not heard if its up and running. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2012, 08:48:59 AM » |
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I hate it its not properly licensed and there is no proper control, regulation and medical facilities attached to it. If a fighter is juiced up he is effectively cheating and there is no way of checking if people who do it have a brain abnormality or undiagnosed medical condition such as HIV are putting there own health and more importantly there opponent in danger.
It depends who it's organised through I'd say. My brother fights unlicensed but the shows he has fought on have paramedics ringside, the fighters have medicals, etc. Most of the things you have mentioned there have occurred with licensed fighters so I don't think there is much of a difference in that regard. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 09:31:20 AM » |
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It depends who it's organised through I'd say. My brother fights unlicensed but the shows he has fought on have paramedics ringside, the fighters have medicals, etc. Most of the things you have mentioned there have occurred with licensed fighters so I don't think there is much of a difference in that regard.
There's a fair bit of difference between 'inlicensed' and 'white collar' though. Some unlicensed shows can be decent quality in terms of the combatants and the organisation. The standard of white collar boxing is by and large terrible. White collar is by far the lowest rung of the ladder. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 10:05:19 AM » |
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There's a fair bit of difference between 'inlicensed' and 'white collar' though. Some unlicensed shows can be decent quality in terms of the combatants and the organisation. The standard of white collar boxing is by and large terrible.
White collar is by far the lowest rung of the ladder.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Two guys from my brothers gym have turned pro now so its a place where people actually get trained to box instead of being told to lay off the pies for a few weeks and having a few swings at a heavy bag before a match. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 10:56:02 AM » |
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Two guys from my brothers gym have turned pro now so its a place where people actually get trained to box instead of being told to lay off the pies for a few weeks and having a few swings at a heavy bag before a match.
Yeah the standards of unlicensed can be quite good and most are either decent retired pro's or amateurs, and some who go onto turn professional. But the white collar brigade are made up mainly of have a go hard men who fancy themselves as a KO king and swing for the fences on like minded foes. And suit boys who fancy stepping out of their comfort zone. Then we get a sprinkling of experienced fighters mixed in who usually teach these 'hardnuts' and 'suits' the error of their ways. The danger is someone getting seriously hurt during the process and unlike proper boxing folk who understand going in the risks.....a good number of the white collar brigade don't know what they're getting into till someone is cracking them upside the head with serious intent. |
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2012, 01:21:22 PM » |
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! this should have been stopped really.. which sort of answers all my thoughts on it. i wanted to hear peoples views firstly before commenting, currently i see more and more of these shows popping up and it seems to be taking the credit away from boxing as people seem to jump at a few quid to fight!? someone wil get hurt badly soon.
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