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« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2012, 09:41:53 AM » |
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Cotto's downfall was definitely all that pink he was dressed in! He looked like a Gay Rights march leader for Christ sake! And what's all this about him sleeping with some fat bloke?  On a more serious note, a very entertaining fight, with Cotto giving it his all. Unfortunately it was not enough and he was clearly outclassed. I still cannot stand Mayweather, the prick, but all credit due to him for that performance. I also still believe he will not face Pacquiao But if he does you will post numerous times that u smell an upset and pac to win by ko yeh. Hhahah my take on floyd is that he is a controversial character who plays up to the media to make as much money as he can and it works. I really hope he fights and beats PAC as I would love to think that we are watching the greatest fighter of our era. I'd love to talk to my kids and grand kids about someone we got to saw live and not having to tell them about fighters of years gone by. Enjoy him whilst he is around because the sport gets a little bit duller without him around Can't wait to see the stats and ppv numbers. He tried to make the fight exciting by letting cotto do his thing and in doing so allowed cotto some success. If he had of wanted to I truly believe it could have been a shut out.
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« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2012, 09:41:53 AM » |
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« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2012, 09:54:25 AM » |
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I was left disappointed by Cotto and his corner I expected more and in world championship boxing you can't give away the first five rounds. Cotto did make Mayweather look uncomfortable when Floyd took his foot of the gas but it was clear from the opening bell Floyd was miles above Miguel.
The judges cards were fair and at the end it looked as though Floyd could have stopped Cotto if he had went for it. Overall it was a decent fight however I'm left feeling a little dejected by team Cotto it was clear he wasn't in the fight after two three rounds and they had to change tactic and by the time they did the fight had passed them by.
I currently don't see anyone who can beat Floyd I actually think after the performance last night the only thing that will beat Floyd is age.
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« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2012, 10:04:46 AM » |
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I was left disappointed by Cotto and his corner I expected more and in world championship boxing you can't give away the first five rounds. Cotto did make Mayweather look uncomfortable when Floyd took his foot of the gas but it was clear from the opening bell Floyd was miles above Miguel.
The judges cards were fair and at the end it looked as though Floyd could have stopped Cotto if he had went for it. Overall it was a decent fight however I'm left feeling a little dejected by team Cotto it was clear he wasn't in the fight after two three rounds and they had to change tactic and by the time they did the fight had passed them by.
I currently don't see anyone who can beat Floyd I actually think after the performance last night the only thing that will beat Floyd is age.
At the end of the day how many rounds has Floyd lost over the last few years? Cotto tried his best, it was a different and more patient Cotto than we have seen in the last few years, but Floyd was just too good for him. It's as simple as that. He would have been stupid to rush out and go windmilling after Floyd.
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« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2012, 10:09:26 AM » |
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It was a good, solid fight. Mayweather deservedly won, but Cotto played his part and posed Mayweather some genuine issues along the way.
Not that the commentary team we had to 'endure' ever noticed that. It was absolutely horrendous listening to the constant stream of love coming out of their mouths. They noticed nothing that Cotto did and just waxed lyrical about Mayweather all night long.
Floyd was forced at times to engage in Cotto's fight but those pair of clowns commentating would blabber on about Floyd choosing to fight on Cotto's terms etc etc......i suppose Floyd decided to bleed just to see what it felt like!
B*xn*tion desperately need to sort the situation out. I can't be listening to those benders each time there's an American fight. Can't we have the HBO commentary instead?
Regarding the fight.....credit to both. Mayweather beat the best version of Miguel Cotto last night. Could see how fit and strong Diaz had gotten Miguel, and he posed Mayweather tactical problems over the course of the fight, mixing his approach up and using movement with an improved defense. Mayweather's speed, variety and countering made the difference and he was able to score effectively throughout, whilst Cotto only did damage sporadically.
But that was most certainly not the masterclass, one-sided clinic the commentators were gushing about. Cotto troubled Mayweather and made him bleed. He had success with the left hand and exposed some things that future Mayweather opponents will do well to make note of.....namely the straight left hand works against him.
Not talking about the jab, but rather than waste hooks when you've got him on the ropes, its best to shoot straight through the middle and put power into that. Cotto's left handed so its natural for him, but orthadox fighters could also use a jolting straight left. Maybe throw or feint with a right hook to put Mayweather in his shell, then smash the straight left hand right down his throat. Once his heads been knocked back then maybe you can get the right hand in, but rather than hook it, i think coming over the top in an arc could work better. But main thing is put emphasis on the straight left cos that punch is always there or there abouts, even against Floyd's slippery defense.
I also think its clear that Floyd's legs won't permit him to stick and move for 12 rounds. He's come off his toes out of necessity, not just choice. He's obviously still a very formidable foe, but there are certainly some flaws there that can be picked at.
So who next for him?......Well i'm chuffed that Alvarez has been ruled out by DelaHoya. I'm relieved cos without a doubt Alvarez in Autumn was the plan going into last night. GB wanted Alvarez to do a number on Mosley and take him out in style, but after last night its crystal clear Alvarez isn't ready for Mayweather(and never would be imo thought that's another topic)
The obvious selection should be Pac providing he gets by Bradley, but failing that it should be Martinez at either 54 or 60. Nobody but those pair will suffice in my opinion.
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« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2012, 10:24:54 AM » |
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At the end of the day how many rounds has Floyd lost over the last few years? Cotto tried his best, it was a different and more patient Cotto than we have seen in the last few years, but Floyd was just too good for him. It's as simple as that. He would have been stupid to rush out and go windmilling after Floyd.
So its not stupid to drop five rounds against the best fighter on the planet right now before you change things ? He was better and Cotto tried but the second half of the fight showed how he should have fought in the first half of the fight.
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« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2012, 11:01:12 AM » |
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So its not stupid to drop five rounds against the best fighter on the planet right now before you change things ? He was better and Cotto tried but the second half of the fight showed how he should have fought in the first half of the fight.
Floyd also changed how he fought, he engaged more after a few rounds. This gave Cotto more of a chance to land. I just don't think it was as simple as giving 5 rounds away. Cotto had to try his gameplan first. It's just that Mayweather is better in most departments.
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« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2012, 11:13:19 AM » |
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^^Mayweather Boxed the first rounds and was clearly the superior operator. Then he changed plans and began to fight toe to toe and that allowed Cotto back into the fight and made it exciting. But Floyd had him figured out by then. Floyd stepped on the Gas in the Championship rounds to leave the result beyond any doubt. I feel he stood his ground by choice,coz the few times he moved he looked as fluid on his feet as usual . So he's just proving he can also slug as well as Box if he wants to.
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« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2012, 11:16:04 AM » |
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Floyd also changed how he fought, he engaged more after a few rounds. This gave Cotto more of a chance to land. I just don't think it was as simple as giving 5 rounds away. Cotto had to try his gameplan first. It's just that Mayweather is better in most departments.
Agreed. However if you're to win then you can't be giving up rounds. Either way Floyd is better and has likely as hard as it is to believe got even better over the last few fights and is certainly at his peak. Certainly Cotto's best spells were when he pushed Floyd back and just wish he would have tried this earlier in the fight.
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« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2012, 11:39:31 AM » |
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Now you don't say this very often after a Floyd fight, but what a brilliant fight. I think Cotto's inability to match the quickness and footwork of Floyd was apparent from the early rounds. He would hover just on the edge of range with no head movement and an upright defence and floyd was just pinging hard shots around, over and up through his guard. When the fight was in the middle of the ring it was very tough to see how cotto could adapt or, after 3 or 4 rounds, last the 12. I believe Floyd consciously came out fast at the start so that Cotto would have to chase as the fight progressed. In the middle of the fight he went to the ropes to get Cotto to throw more and give himself chances to counter. That's not saying floyd was deliberately bringing cotto into the fight but I do believe if Floyd wanted to keep the fight in the middle of the ring and use distance then he could have done so, it just would have been a much more boring fight. Instead he wanted people to see that he could trade with Miguel and still come out on top.
However, when they did get against the ropes Cotto came alive and landed some excellent shots. He really worked hard but again, his lack of head movement and floyds advantage in quickness caused him to take some punishing shots. Fair play to the man though, he never stopped trying and gave floyd his hardest fight since de la hoya.
Superb fight. As always, I hope Floyd-Manny happens but if it doesn't who else is there? Martinez hopefully but Floyd only weighed in 151 tonight, would he be big enough to fight Martinez?
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« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2012, 11:49:25 AM » |
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Lurky - the commentator is HBO, he does international coverage for non-US customers.
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« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2012, 11:59:25 AM » |
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But if he does you will post numerous times that u smell an upset and pac to win by ko yeh. Hhahah
Oh well, I mean, Pacman would win that one quite easily, that's a given! 
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« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2012, 12:01:25 PM » |
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Oh well, I mean, Pacman would win that one quite easily, that's a given!  I really think you take his money persona to serious mate. I think he is a good guy behind the scenes and just plays the role to a tee. Not to mention he is one hell of a fighter!!!
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« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2012, 12:09:15 PM » |
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116-114 Cotto - the guy just... I'm joking. 118-110 Mayweather. Cotto was several punches short of being in with a shout for half the rounds. He/his corner never picked up on the most effective punch, the short straight left (think jabbing out of a tight spot). Roach and Pacquiao will have found that tantalizing, since it is the only punch that Mayweather's defense doesn't protect against, and it is Pacquiao's best asset.
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« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2012, 12:17:31 PM » |
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Fully agree
Had it even going into 12. Floyd by 1 round for me
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« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2012, 12:21:02 PM » |
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havent seen the fight.. But sounds like it was how i thought it would pan out.
Hopefully jail wont damage floyd too much so pacman and he can war it out.
I really do think pacmans style could cause floyd some issues and vice versa.
The 'big one' is now dependant upon how pac deals with bradley which is a really tough fight due to he unknown of tim.
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