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« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2012, 07:40:16 AM »

deary me.. this is woeful..

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« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2012, 07:46:42 AM »

All of this tells me that Khan was right to keep up his protest and Peterson is entirely discredited.  Ok, it's a shame Khan went about it quite the way he did at times, and he was barking up the wrong tree a lot of the time.  But he'll have a big grin now, I bet you!  I wonder if the man in the hat was supplying the banned substances..........................?   Grin
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« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2012, 08:16:14 AM »

So essentially it seems that Petersen forgot to tell anyone he had been taking a form of anabolic steroid until it was confirmed he'd definitely been caught cheating.  From what's been said so far it doesn't seem like he will be able to pass this off as something he ingested through an over the counter medicine. 

Even if he claims he was prescribed them for an injury, the fight should be called a NC as the result of Toney v Ruiz was.
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« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2012, 09:24:39 AM »

So essentially it seems that Petersen forgot to tell anyone he had been taking a form of anabolic steroid until it was confirmed he'd definitely been caught cheating.  From what's been said so far it doesn't seem like he will be able to pass this off as something he ingested through an over the counter medicine. 

Even if he claims he was prescribed them for an injury, the fight should be called a NC as the result of Toney v Ruiz was.

The thing is, testosterone, unless in massive weight-gaining quanities when stacked with other drugs is not really the performance drug of choice outside of bodybuilders and power lifters.

Ive read a lot of steroids over the years, been around a couple of friends who dabble with them - and ive never heard of a 'Testosterone Pellet' !!

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« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2012, 09:49:39 AM »

The thing is, testosterone, unless in massive weight-gaining quanities when stacked with other drugs is not really the performance drug of choice outside of bodybuilders and power lifters.

Ive read a lot of steroids over the years, been around a couple of friends who dabble with them - and ive never heard of a 'Testosterone Pellet' !!

Just seen now that Petersen has said he was prescribed them by a doctor because he had low testosterone.  Apparently the pellets are semi-solid and you put them under your arms and they slowly absorb into you glands.  Sounds a bit fruity to me.
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« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2012, 10:00:36 AM »

Just seen now that Petersen has said he was prescribed them by a doctor because he had low testosterone.  Apparently the pellets are semi-solid and you put them under your arms and they slowly absorb into you glands.  Sounds a bit fruity to me.

And you do all that but don't tell anyone?  When you're getting into the boxing ring?  Fruity indeed!   Angry
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« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2012, 10:24:51 AM »

And you do all that but don't tell anyone?  When you're getting into the boxing ring?  Fruity indeed!   Angry

...and don't remember you took them when the A test fails but suddenly do when the B test results come in.
Ripe fruit to the point of rotten?.
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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2012, 10:33:56 AM »

...and don't remember you took them when the A test fails but suddenly do when the B test results come in.
Ripe fruit to the point of rotten?.

Exactly.

He deserves a ban. And Im sure he will get one.

Unless a ropey doc writes them a elaborate letter.
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« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2012, 10:40:24 AM »

F*ck me some people are deluded. No one can have an opinion that is not the same blinkered view they hold. For the record Charlie etc, rigid backing of manny despite all the coincidences does not give you the moral high ground... It gives you a little pointy hat with a d on it, now get in the corner. Grin

It's not rigid backing of Manny, it's backing of FACTS.  And every time point out a load of facts?  Tumbleweed.  No, worse, "well that's your opinion."  I point out a boatload of lies?  "Well that doesn't explain the coincidences."  It's like talking a child into eat broccoli.

Dunce hat?  Give one to Red and Aaron.
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« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2012, 10:50:33 AM »

Exactly.

He deserves a ban. And Im sure he will get one.

Unless a ropey doc writes them a elaborate letter.

NC in the books and the WBA and possibly IBF titles back to Khan then possibly.  Can't help but think it will only delay the inevitable of him losing his titles though.  I think he'd best hope for a big payday against Floyd before someone else Team Khan think is a soft touch comes along and relieves him of the belts.   
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« Reply #85 on: May 09, 2012, 12:04:58 PM »

It's not rigid backing of Manny, it's backing of FACTS.  And every time point out a load of facts?  Tumbleweed.  No, worse, "well that's your opinion."  I point out a boatload of lies?  "Well that doesn't explain the coincidences."  It's like talking a child into eat broccoli.

Dunce hat?  Give one to Red and Aaron.

The Pactoid Strikes Back.

This is not a court of law, it's a forum where discussions and thoughts on situations take place, with or without merit.

The FACT if you like, is that there is a heap of fighters / history with a background of drug use, bans and ducking of tests surrounding the whole entourage - all linked to one another via Roach and his helper Ariza.

Go dig up Robert McCracken and the fighters he trains or is involved with, and there isn't a sniff of allegations or bans in his family tree of fighters.

Yet Roach's gym has been awash with it. James Toney, Chavez junior.

You can say "ah but Chavez was not with Roach" but the reality is he weighed 182lb against Rubio, who was astonished and his strength - and then he sprinted off post-fight because his godfather at the WBC 'forgets' to arrange post fight doping tests for a world title fight.

This isn't singling out Pacquiao, it's a snap shot of the whole family tree - and within that there are numerous suspicious athletes and team members.

My point is, even in amateur sports like track and field, they're juicing left right and centre. In a loosely tested environment where huge sums of money are involved, then this only elevates the need to win at any cost.

Even squeaky clean Shane Mosley was juicing and played ignorant and then we have Margarito who happily wore plaster of paris in gloves too. Margarito wouldn't bat an eyelid at taking stuff in my opinion.

Wladimir Klitschko got caught with steroids in his blood and is a huge specimen of muscle for his height even today.

Many have campaigned for a different approach to testing as it's been proven that even Olympic level testing can be outsmarted - let alone a Piss test, like the Nevada state carry out.

UFC - look at the monsters in that sport. They're riddled with high profile steroid bans every month. They're physiques resemble that of a juiced-up gym rat and not an athlete.

People can stick their head in the sand, but this is a very real problem - and it seems to afflict Stateside fighters more than any other country out there.

So instead of crying about it or sticking your head in the sand because Pacquiao got a name check, recognise what the debate is.
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« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2012, 12:17:18 PM »

^^^^Well Marquez asked to be Tested to prove he's clean,but when he asked Manny to take the same Random Tests ,Team Pacman backed away from making any further allegations.
If they are clean,they should have pressed the issue and done the Test just to put rumors to rest.
But since they are reluctant to take the Test,the Dark Cloud will continue to hang over their heads.

The fact that Peterson has failed a Test now vindicates Floyd and all those who are supporting extra Testing,coz its easier to beat the system these days when a fighter knows when they will be Tested.
If they had not done Random Tests,Peterson would have passed the post fight Tests .
So more fights will have this.

That's a fair post, actually. Manny does make himself look bad when he refuses to take the tests.
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« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2012, 12:24:11 PM »

I backed Manny to the hilt on this for a long time. But three fights later he still hasnt taken a test to put the matter beyond doubt. It makes me questionhim big time.

Anyone who doesnt wonder why he wont test must be completely blinded by love!!!
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« Reply #88 on: May 09, 2012, 12:30:03 PM »

Exactly.

He deserves a ban. And Im sure he will get one.

Unless a ropey doc writes them a elaborate letter.

That's exactly what i'm thinking may happen.....

I've heard they've already been on the blower to Dirrell for Dr.Shawhigh's number...lol
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« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2012, 12:49:38 PM »


UFC - look at the monsters in that sport. They're riddled with high profile steroid bans every month. They're physiques resemble that of a juiced-up gym rat and not an athlete.

People can stick their head in the sand, but this is a very real problem - and it seems to afflict Stateside fighters more than any other country out there.

So instead of crying about it or sticking your head in the sand because Pacquiao got a name check, recognise what the debate is.



Every month? I can think of three in the past three years. Whenever they sign a fighter it is subject to a drug test, and then are tested before every fight. In foreign countries where they don't have an athletic commission to adhere to, they carry out their own tests. Don't compare the two as you really have no clue.
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