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[Tim2366]

What a joke...it will get to a stage where they can test for most PEDs but will refuse to because there scared of what the results could be. A solid drugs test for every fighter could cripple the sport. Theres several guys out there id wanna see checked...these guys who seem to barely fight would be the first on the list.

[Fightin Irish]

Yeah but those sports haven't, to an extent, been run as massive businesses by numerous shady characters for years. There are too many people with too much to lose if it all falls apart. As has been suggested though a lead in period where fighters can clean themselves up and leave no excuses for those bodies not to act.

ALso nobody risking their lives in those sports!

[deck]

ALso nobody risking their lives in those sports!

That's very true, you are right. It's the policymakers who are at fault here. If they make the rules the fighters have to step in line. It needs to be done and not doing it is an act of negligence towards the legitimate fighters.

[glenn_user]

Im so glad this has landed at contes door , he has no right to be allowed near sportsmen after his past crimes and bertos finished if he was in anyway roided for ortiz , if thats his best he is road kill now

On chambers , he was taking tests laughing in the testers faces , balco was designed so you could be tested but you always tested negative until someone blew them up (not chambers). Also everyone attached to balco has faced serious charges , did chambers not just fall on his own sword to atleast save his carear ? he also lost other people medals . Onarugh was a shocker of a case i think she may have actually missed 3 but 2 wrongs dont make a right and chambers should never be allowed to wear british colours in the olympics as making the bans more lax just makes it all the more tempting to cheat.

im not agreeing or disagreeing on chambers ban, it was just the contradiction and hypocrisy of the uk olymipic team and committee. It would appear to me that to miss a ban is treated quite lightly in most sports, whereas testing positive can sometimes be the end of the road. you see it in football and athletics. if you miss the tests and take a shorter ban there appears to be a collective amnesia in the press and coaching teams when you return. Its an escape route to just miss them as it isnt taken seriously as an offence.

its disingenuous at best to accept someone back at face value if theyve knowingly circumvented the whole testing system, while happily pointing fingers at those caught red handed by it.

[hardknocklife]

Conte keeps blaming "contaminated supplements"

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/conte-blames-contaminated-supplements-115802

Once a crook, always a crook

[motoriser]

Nobody gave flack for demanding random testing in the sport in general.  It should be mandatory at all levels of the sport where testing is affordable.

People give Mayweather flack for baseless accusations that Manny Pacquiao is on PEDs.  "How can a guy who fought at 106 being walking through Welterweights?  Jus' sayin'.  How can his head grow so big?  Jus' sayin'.  Filipino soldiers given drugs that let them walk through bullets.  Jus' sayin'.  Guy comes out of nowhere, where was he '96, '97', 98'?  Jus' sayin'.  Where's all this power come from, how can he all of a sudden hit so hard?  Jus' sayin'." etc that shite is what he deserves flack for.

Random testing?  Get it in the sport now!  Perhaps I didn't agree with Floyd imposing it purely for Pacquiao (where was Floyd's principle on random testing before 2010?) but credit where credit is due - it got the ball rolling.

Lets hope the other Big Company starts to implement these Tests in their high profile fights.
But with their greed and how they love to protect their Cash cows,it won't be happening anytime soon.That is very sad for Boxing.
Pacman Vs Bradly fight could be been used to prove their fighters are willing to clear their names by having both fighters Take the Test.
Still Top Rank is happy to continue doing the standard Outdated State Commision Tests which have become a Joke,or at times no testing at all ie. the Chavez Jr fight in Texas.

[Fightin Irish]

Its not up to Top Rank or Goldenboy, its up to the sanctioning bodies to enforce this! No Testing, no sanctioned fight!!

[Kevan2]

Its not up to Top Rank or Goldenboy, its up to the sanctioning bodies to enforce this! No Testing, no sanctioned fight!!

   HERE HERE !!

[cocksuckinknowitall]

Its not up to Top Rank or Goldenboy, its up to the sanctioning bodies to enforce this! No Testing, no sanctioned fight!!

Agreed.  Sadly they seem slow to catch or or just uninterested.  This is what happens when rich old white men run something.  Either out of touch or corrupt - or both.

All you needed to type was the last sentance  

Agreed (with this sentence, at least!) - less is more.

I think the various organisations will put the measures in place, but they'll give a good amount of advanced warning so the cheats will all be able to get off the PEDS so we don't see mass positive tests.

I expect to see some fighters performance levels drop off for no apparent reason in the wake of all this, as many are forced off the drugs and have to rely on natural stuff and their own abilities.

I may be mistaken (I'm no expert) but a lot of these substances remain in the blood for a long, long time.  I don't think you can just stop week A and be clean week B.

There's a lot of misinformation out there though, mostly due to people being too eager to repeat what they hear as if it is fact.

Nandrolone, for instance, from what I read, stays detectable up to 1 year.  It's an old synthetic steroid created in the 70s.  I can't see how Berto (on Conte's advice, apparently) would court VADA if he had knowingly been using Nandrolone (or Conte had knowingly given it to him).  It's a lot different to what Peterson was doing, which is a lot dodgier.

[cocksuckinknowitall]

There's a lot of misinformation out there though, mostly due to people being too eager to repeat what they hear as if it is fact.

Nandrolone, for instance, from what I read, stays detectable up to 1 year.  It's an old synthetic steroid created in the 70s.  I can't see how Berto (on Conte's advice, apparently) would court VADA if he had knowingly been using Nandrolone (or Conte had knowingly given it to him).  It's a lot different to what Peterson was doing, which is a lot dodgier.

I'm also reading Berto passed two VADA tests in the build up to the first rematch date and that, by most people's estimations, this fight seemed to be a little too soon after the injury (torn bicep) to be practical.  I'm speculating that he - or somebody in his camp - thought a bit of "help" was needed for the healing process and should be non-detectable by the time camp starts.  It makes sense the stakes/money involved (perhaps Ortiz would have walked away if he had to wait another 2-3 months) and Berto's inactivity lately (Haiti disaster etc).

[Gibbo1]

Gabriel Montoya Quoted


"Sources have informed me that analysis of Andre Berto's positive tests results for nandrosterone (a metabolic byproduct of nandrolone) revealed "ultra-trace amounts of Nandrolone in the low parts per trillion range and consistent with contamination not intent."

This is excellent news for Team Berto, essentially backing up the theory explained in my article "Andre Berto Tests Positive for The Molecule of the Month: Nandrolone." Essentially the results are strong evidence Berto did not knowingly take a substance to enhance performance.

More details to come as the story breaks."

[RobertoJB80]

I don't think Conte would have been stupid enough to give Berto Nandro. As he said its most likely from contamination (as the test results reveal). What he didn't speculate on was whether that contamination could have come from the other undetectable PEDs that he may have been prescribing (rather than just a protein shake).


I reckon there is a higher risk of contamination from a factory making PEDs than your average protein / vitamin company.

[presa]

this is terrible and is making the sport look very bad indeed..

i will also add that there is obvioulsy potions that conte knows about that beats the olympic system.. so i guess the people with the money can afford to do that type of cheating.