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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 08:37:52 AM »

Dick Cole is the same man who stood up in a preflight meeting with both camps the day before the Rubio fight insisting there'd be drugs tests and the very next day told Rubios trainer after the fight that they forgot to order the test kit.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2012, 09:05:48 AM »

Dick Cole is the same man who stood up in a preflight meeting with both camps the day before the Rubio fight insisting there'd be drugs tests and the very next day told Rubios trainer after the fight that they forgot to order the test kit.


Lawrence cole's dad, Dickie , is one of the most corrupt assholes in Texas.

He bends the rules for cash.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2012, 09:19:20 AM »

Lawrence cole's dad, Dickie , is one of the most corrupt assholes in Texas.

He bends the rules for cash.

Positions like that, especially in the States, are political. It's about who you know and what you know about them. Wholly unsuitable people are often appointed to these positions with different agendas than overseeing the sport.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2012, 09:34:18 AM »

Now the question... is Ariza part of this controversy... ?
if I remember correctly  Chavez  hired  him as his conditioning trainer..? Azn

There is no link of any kind between Ariza and PEDs.  Don't peddle rumours spread by keyboard warriors.  The only "link" to PEDs and Ariza is that Pacquiao snorted at Mayweather's initial demand for stringent testing attached to baseless accusations from team Mayweather.

Ariza is only famous because of Pacquiao, and has never been implicated in a PED scandal - unlike the "nutritionists" hired by Berto and Juan Manuel Marquez.

Not that I'm a particular fan of Ariza, but if you can show me why you think he juices his clients?  So far it has come down to whim.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2012, 11:14:34 AM »

There is no link of any kind between Ariza and PEDs.  Don't peddle rumours spread by keyboard warriors.  The only "link" to PEDs and Ariza is that Pacquiao snorted at Mayweather's initial demand for stringent testing attached to baseless accusations from team Mayweather.

Ariza is only famous because of Pacquiao, and has never been implicated in a PED scandal - unlike the "nutritionists" hired by Berto and Juan Manuel Marquez.

Not that I'm a particular fan of Ariza, but if you can show me why you think he juices his clients?  So far it has come down to whim.

I actually quite like Ariza, but both he and Roach have been involved in past dodgy fights of Chavez jnr and so should both know what is going on.

Personally if Chavez ever got found out for testing positive, Roach should be removed from the HOF imo. Any fighter that has ever been banned for failing tests and any awarded trainers should not be allowed to sit amongst the finest in the sport who never cheated or maybe now I should say, never got caught.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2012, 11:24:50 AM »

I actually quite like Ariza, but both he and Roach have been involved in past dodgy fights of Chavez jnr and so should both know what is going on.

Personally if Chavez ever got found out for testing positive, Roach should be removed from the HOF imo. Any fighter that has ever been banned for failing tests and any awarded trainers should not be allowed to sit amongst the finest in the sport who never cheated or maybe now I should say, never got caught.

Wasn't roach training James tony at the time he got caught ?
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2012, 11:28:43 AM »

I actually quite like Ariza, but both he and Roach have been involved in past dodgy fights of Chavez jnr and so should both know what is going on.

Personally if Chavez ever got found out for testing positive, Roach should be removed from the HOF imo. Any fighter that has ever been banned for failing tests and any awarded trainers should not be allowed to sit amongst the finest in the sport who never cheated or maybe now I should say, never got caught.

I will say in relation to trainers that they don't alway necessarily know that a fighter may be doping. They are not around them 24hrs of the day.
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2012, 03:05:42 PM »

I actually quite like Ariza, but both he and Roach have been involved in past dodgy fights of Chavez jnr and so should both know what is going on.

Personally if Chavez ever got found out for testing positive, Roach should be removed from the HOF imo. Any fighter that has ever been banned for failing tests and any awarded trainers should not be allowed to sit amongst the finest in the sport who never cheated or maybe now I should say, never got caught.

*sigh*

Chavez Jr tested positive for banned substances before he hired Ariza.  Ariza certainly doesn't control everything that passes into or out of Chavez Jr.

Let's stick to fact, shall we?
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2012, 05:14:22 PM »

Wasn't roach training James tony at the time he got caught ?

Yep, and his strength & conditioning coach at the time was Justine Fortune.

He was also Pacquio's at the time too.

As a footnote, he was banned for testing positive himself - and is a former competitive body builder.
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2012, 07:40:55 PM »

I just  want to see Marrtinez whup the arse of this Chavez jr so as to learn a lesson in humility...To me this guy is becoming arrogant for his own good...If he is indeed doping I am certain his old man has something to do with this as well.....
For once in a while junior and senior Chavez needs to given a reality check ......

I don't really believe that he was "clean " during his  recent competitions ...
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