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« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2012, 01:00:33 PM »

Khan is shit, always thought so.

Roach is as guilty of the hype as anyone too.

Jorge Linares, phenomenal talent - smashed up by average Demarco & Thompson

Pacquiao - fought has-beens who Promptly retired, should have stood Marquez & Bradley on their heads if you'd swallowed the hype. Roach had three goes at Marquez and couldn't change anything.

Khan - better for going up a division after Prescott, than anything Roach has done. Massive defensive flaws exist and not been addressed.

Chavez jr next to fall, unless the juice is ramped up.
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« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2012, 01:29:16 PM »

Would love to know what the purse split was for that, as Garcia was the champ and khan had no belt and was coming off a loss when the fight was signed!

Garcia: 520k

Khan: 950k

Those are the figures released by the Navada commission
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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2012, 01:30:43 PM »

Garcia: 520k

Khan: 950k
Cheers, plus whatever the oul fella lumped on with the bookies!!;)
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« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2012, 01:31:24 PM »

It seems im having some twitter wars with avid khan fans who still believe in him.

I personally haven't been a fan of him since he turned pro, I read his book and didn't like how he came across.

The thing that confuses me is why he didn't take his loss to Peterson more seriously and address the key issues with his defence and not being able to box on the back foot etc.

It seems to me that although khan won a world title young, he was rushed there and avoided many key experiences I think a fighter should have like at euro level etc

I do think he has a lot of talent although his inflated ego lets him down majorly, hype about a mayweather fight went to his head and he thought his speed is all that's needed.

Garcia proved him very very wrong last night and I hope he has a huge reality check
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« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2012, 01:34:32 PM »

I think the drug test gave Khan an excuse he was looking for, even though Peterson didn't fail a test before or immediately after the first fight, I think it was march, Khan never believe he lost, that's where the problems were!
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« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2012, 01:36:29 PM »

He was always looking for an excuse after the Peterson fight. His comments after were disgraceful. Fair enough, it's valid if Peterson was juiced, but that doesnt mean Khan shouldnt have looked at that fight and learnt from it. With the drug tests Khan had validation for saying he was cheated, and so didnt bother to take the fight as a warning. It doenst help with the people around him telling him how good he is, he bought into the hype.
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« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2012, 01:38:56 PM »

I think Garcia hit the nail on the head at the pre fight conference when he said something along the lines of 'You are going to see the difference between a fighter who was made a world champion and a figher who became a world champion'
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« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2012, 01:42:08 PM »

I think Garcia hit the nail on the head at the pre fight conference when he said something along the lines of 'You are going to see the difference between a fighter who was made a world champion and a figher who became a world champion'

This!! Garcia never flinched at khans best and as soon as Garcia let the hands go that was it!! Shows how tough Morales is even now!
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« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2012, 01:42:57 PM »

Khan is talented but extremely vulnerable, and when he gets hurt he makes the mistake of trying to repeatedly blaze back. He needs to protect his flaw by not being ashamed to tuck up, hold and ride out rough moments, without feeling the need to try and get immediate payback. Play to your strengths and recognise and then work around your weaknesses, rather than trying to win in full spite of them.

He wasn't far off surviving but continued to try and trade with a guy who'd had him over and he kept getting caught. His chin is weak and he compounds the problem ten fold by constantly exposing it.

He needs to alter his style, stop trying to find KO's, and just be content to use his gifts to win fights. If a stoppage comes then great, but no need to force it. A boring points win is still better than a thrilling stoppage loss.

And though Khan does have some power, he's not a crushing puncher who has a right to go after KO wins like Rick Waller after mars bars. He needs to stop trying to hurt his opponents. For example the punch he nearly finished Maidana with was just a quick silver body punch thrown naturally, but after that he began to load up and only put himself in danger.

I think he feels pressure to be impressive. But he has to forget all that if he hopes to salvage something from his career.

I think he's got the capacity to beat Garcia, but he needs to alter his approach. Stylistically its well within reach, but altering the kamikaze mindset won't be easy.
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« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2012, 01:52:52 PM »

Cue Jimjack...

"Khan still beats the Piss out of Bradley" Grin

as long as Bradley doesn't hit him back. Grin
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« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2012, 01:54:35 PM »

I dont buy all this about him tucking up and holding on when hurt. Yes it may take him into the next round but it wont see him to the end of a fight, the fact is when he is buzzed like was initially against Garcia he is effectively on borrowed time, if he tucks up he may las two more rounds but the end result will always be the same, a KO loss

At least it is more entertaining if he goes balls out, that way we get to see the chicken dance a couple more times
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« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2012, 01:58:32 PM »

Amir Khan Vs Danny Garcia Full Fight (Full Match) 15-07-2012 ( 15 Jul 2012 ) P1


I've now watched this three times and thats an awful performance.
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« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2012, 02:04:58 PM »

as long as Bradley doesn't hit him back. Grin

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I want to know what Johnny Nelson was on about saying that Khan should move up to welterweight because he'll be stronger...

He get's rendered unconscious at lightweight so they move him up, he get's blasted out at light welter so what would moving up again do other then give Victor Ortiz a his 3rd or 4th chance at the top level after he lays Khan out.
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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2012, 02:05:30 PM »

I think the drug test gave Khan an excuse he was looking for, even though Peterson didn't fail a test before or immediately after the first fight, I think it was march, Khan never believe he lost, that's where the problems were!

Spot on mate.

He looked at the peterson fight as a robbery and when it came out peterson was a drug cheat too i think that secured it in Khans mind that he didn't really lose... then he gets the WBA belt back which gave his ego that extra kick of arrogance and the rest is history...

He'll be back, but with some defence (hopefully).
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« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2012, 02:07:50 PM »

The ref does Khan an awful lot of favours in that fight when he's knocked down.
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