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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2017, 05:25:40 AM »

I think people apply that belief if he fights spence at 147lb. Though not many think the weight is an issue if he faces khan at 147lb or even manny.


Boxers often pick a time when it suits to complain about weight I think. More often than not it's once they've been flattened.

The ones I think are genuine are few and far between.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2017, 12:48:28 PM »

I think people apply that belief if he fights spence at 147lb. Though not many think the weight is an issue if he faces khan at 147lb or even manny.


Its the risk/reward thing......for the money on offer for a Khan or Pac fight its understandable that Brook would do all he could to drag himself down to 147.

But Spence is just a heavily hyped mandatory....the cash won't be anything special relatively speaking and even if Brook went and spanked him, the win would be downgraded very quickly as Spence being a bust rather than Brook being a boss.

Just not worth the risk imo.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2017, 02:31:56 PM »

Its the risk/reward thing......for the money on offer for a Khan or Pac fight its understandable that Brook would do all he could to drag himself down to 147.

But Spence is just a heavily hyped mandatory....the cash won't be anything special relatively speaking and even if Brook went and spanked him, the win would be downgraded very quickly as Spence being a bust rather than Brook being a boss.

Just not worth the risk imo.

I think if Spence was just hype I think Brook would take it regardless. Spence is a real danger, classic high-risk and low reward
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2017, 08:37:15 PM »

Just noticed that the Ring magazine has kell brook as the No.1 Welterweight, with khan at 6.

http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=279
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2017, 08:48:30 PM »

So boys and girls, I hope I'm correct in saying nobody is paying for this tripe??? Streams???
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2017, 03:57:11 PM »

Purse bid delayed by a week.

http://www.spam.com/boxing/story/_/id/18632298/purse-bid-kell-brook-errol-spence-jr-fight-delayed

Interesting read regarding how much the IBF charge when it goes to purse bids.

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Welterweight titleholder Kell Brook was not joking around when he said he wanted to return to 147 pounds and defend his belt against dangerous mandatory challenger Errol Spence Jr.

A purse bid for the fight, which was scheduled to take place Tuesday afternoon at IBF headquarters in Springfield, New Jersey, was postponed on Monday for one week at the request of both camps.

Matchroom Boxing promoter Eddie Hearn, who represents Brook, has been locked in negotiations with TGB Promotions boss Tom Brown, who is representing Spence. They have made enough progress that both sides felt like it was better to seek a postponement of the purse bid rather than have to hurry through the rest of the talks to have a deal done by Tuesday afternoon.


Welterweight titleholder Kell Brook had surgery to repair an eye injury suffered in a September fight. Ethan Miller/Getty Images
"We are close to a deal and both sides have requested an extension of a week," Hearn told spam.

Brown told spam, "We are getting close to making a deal. This is a big fight and we hope to get it done before next week's rescheduled purse bid."

The IBF granted the extension, sending a letter to all IBF-registered promoters on Monday to announce the delay.

IBF president Daryl Peoples said in the letter, a copy of which was obtained by spam, that the organization agreed to grant the request and "therefore, the IBF will call for purse bids to be held in these offices on Tuesday, February 14, 2017." Bids must be submitted by 11:45 a.m. ET with the sealed bids to be opened at noon ET in the event Hearn and Brown do not reach an agreement by then. If the bid procedure takes place, the promoter with the highest bid will gain promotional control of the fight and can select when and where it will take place as well as control all other logistics.

At the time of the bid, promoters interested in participating must pay the IBF a non-refundable fee of $5,000 along with a check for 10 percent of their bid amount with another 10 percent of the winning bid five days later. However, Hearn and Brown appear on their way to getting a deal done that will result in the cancellation of the purse bid altogether.

Hearn said the sides have not yet agreed on a site but that they hope to put it on in late May. The fight almost certainly would generate much more money if it were to take place in Brook's native England, where he is a big draw.

The 30-year-old Brook (36-1, 25 KOs) could not get a big name opponent to fight him so he moved up two weight classes to middleweight and challenged unified titleholder Gennady Golovkin in September at the sold-out 02 Arena in London. It was a major event and an action-packed fight, but Golovkin broke the orbital bone around Brook's right eye in a fifth-round knockout victory. Brook later had surgery to repair the injury and has struggled with what his next move should be.

There was the prospect of a huge all-British fight with former unified junior welterweight titlist Amir Khan in a match British fans have wanted for years. But Khan's demands, including 70 percent of the money, killed the prospect of the fight.

Brook struggles to make 147 pounds, so he also considered fighting as a 154-pound junior middleweight, but there was no obvious major fight for him in the division. More significantly, Brook does not want to give up his world title, which he has defended three times since winning it by majority decision from Shawn Porter in August 2014. Brook's mandatory defense against Spence, 27, of DeSoto, Texas, is due and if Brook took any other fight he would have to relinquish the title or would be stripped.

"He doesn't want to vacate," Hearn said.

Indeed, Brook, who has recovered from the injury, was struggling badly with what he wanted to do when he spoke to spam in New York last month.


"I know I have a mandatory with Errol Spence. He's a very talented fighter but not really heard of in the U.K. or even America but we all know he can fight," Brook said. "It's hard to get up for guys like this because he doesn't have the name yet. I want the big money fights if I'm going to make 147 pounds. We're reaching the deadline. I have another month. Even if we can make the big fights with [Manny] Pacquiao or Khan, I'm in a situation where I still might have to defend against Spence because I don't want to lose my title without losing it in the ring."

Spence (21-0, 18 KOs), the 2015 spam.com prospect of the year and one of the hottest contenders in boxing, is viewed by most as an extremely difficult defense for Brook. The 2012 U.S. Olympian pummeled former junior welterweight titlist Chris Algieri in a fifth-round knockout in April before scoring a similarly dominant sixth-round knockout of Italy's Leonard Bundu in August in a world title elimination fight that made him the mandatory challenger for Brook's title.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2017, 08:14:27 PM »

Looks like this is going to be confirmed for 20th May in Sheffield.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2017, 08:43:37 PM »

A great fight... It will determine the best at Welterweight.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2017, 08:54:21 PM »

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I don't think Brook can make the weight anymore to be honest. Wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2017, 09:23:08 PM »

So Brook can still make welterweight. Interesting.  Cool
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2017, 10:05:05 PM »

It's hard to see him making 147 without it having a detrimental effect on his ability to perform on the night.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2017, 10:37:21 PM »

It's hard to see him making 147 without it having a detrimental effect on his ability to perform on the night.

If he performs like he did v Porter then could be a great fight....anything else and he looses.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2017, 10:53:33 PM »

A great fight... It will determine the best at Welterweight.

When Thurman beats Garcia in a couple of weeks time he'll be rightly considered the best at the weight. Spence Jr only has one name on his record in Chris Algieri and nobody rates him.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2017, 01:57:08 AM »

When Thurman beats Garcia in a couple of weeks time he'll be rightly considered the best at the weight. Spence Jr only has one name on his record in Chris Algieri and nobody rates him.

The only name on Brook's CV is Porter

Brook will take a severe beating Vs Spence Jr

Thurman is the best at the weight currently and definitely Spence Jrs trickiest fight
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2017, 04:10:31 AM »

I don't like the fight for Brook because of the weight issue......without a doubt he'll be a better fighter at 154 and it'll compromise him making 147. I don't see the point of taking fights at a weight where you're a lesser force.

I'm sick of the Spence hype, I don't think he's all that good. From what I've seen he loads up to hell, his stance is too wide where he's just looking to blast away, and there are plenty of holes that the best version of a 147 Brook could fully exploit.

But at this point I don't think Kell makes 147 without really compromising himself, and it makes the match up that much more dangerous and not worth the risk when weighing things up.

I think Kell will bounce back no problem from the GGG fight, its just the battle with the scales now that really concerns me for him.

I think you are getting caught up in Spence's attempt to put on highlight reel finishes at this stage in his career. He has a good amateur pedigree and his footwork is sound. I don't think we will get a proper look  at it until we see him tested against someone like Brook.

The scales should be of no more concern for Brook than they are for Spence. He normally weighs in at around 165 on fight night. Both are huge for the weight. Horrible fight for Brook to take after his last loss, but I respect him for taking it. Have to pick Spence though.
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