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« on: April 18, 2017, 11:04:54 AM »

Translated from German website.

The photos are the property of Familie Gutknecht and may not be used in any other way.

On the evening of 18 November 2016 the last fight of the Gifhorners Eduard Gutknecht began. The actual boxing match for the WBA's international title in the ring against Georges Groves is over. There was a puncture for Eddy and this fight is boxing, like all the other past fights as well. But for Eduard Gutknecht and his family, this fateful fight continues until today and will go on indefinitely.



On this evening not only were all the plans of Gutknecht crossed. He also lost his health. Forever. Unfortunately, it can not be said otherwise: the head injuries are devastating. Unfortunately, he must share the fate of some other boxers, such as Magomed Abdusalamov, Alexander Mengis or Prichard Colon, who have also suffered injuries which are no longer completely repairable in the exercise of their beloved sport.

On behalf of boxenplus.de / Boxwelt.com, Alexandra Kostenko conducted a conversation with Julia, the wife of Eddy Gutknecht. In a shocking sentence Alexandra describes her impression in this conversation: "It is terrible to look into the eyes of the family members of Eddy and see the pain, the tears and the ruined dreams."

Question:  Dear Julia, the question that moves the boxing fans: How is Eddy now?

Julia:  It is hard for me to answer the question, but we must be happy that he lives. From the medical point of view, it is stable. He gets along with us that we are there and recognizes us, there we are safe.

Question:  What is your memory of the fight? Did there ever be something you noticed during his fight?

Julia:  I have switched off the fight from the 7th round. I was too worried about Eddy and could not keep looking. I have prayed that he will not be hurt. To this day I dare not look at this fight.

Question:  Would it have been better to give up the fight prematurely?

Julia: If the fight had been abandoned early, Eddy might not be so badly injured. Perhaps at least the possibility for an independent life would be guaranteed. The extent of such injuries counts every minute. In November 2013, Eddy beat Dmitry Sukhotsky with his left eye injured and swollen. Fortunately, the fight ended prematurely.

I can not go further, but I will break it. I can not turn back the time now. All I have left to do is to accept the heavy fate that has been imposed upon me. I use the last strength that has remained to help Eddy as well as possible, bring him back to life and at the same time to be there for our three children.

Question:  Do you know what happened after the fight? In what condition was Eddy when it was admitted to the clinic in London?

Julia:  I waited in vain for a call from Eddy after the fight. I called him several times and wrote SMS. But he did not answer. Usually he always calls me after the fight. Even his brother and father did not know. Alex (Eddy's brother) was informed shortly before 01:00 in the morning that Eddy was brought to the clinic for a safety check because of his eye. But it was nothing dramatic and we should not panic. In the middle of the night came the shocking call, Eddy is notoperated for a cerebral hemorrhage and there was the danger that he would not survive the night.

As I gradually learned, after the fight, Eddy came to the cabin and looked for the team doctor to make a cut. He sat down and was no longer able to take off his shoes. He could not even raise his legs on the sofa. His team-mate had to take over and help him. He said something about pain, but everyone had drawn it to his eye. The doctor sewed the cut on his eye. He said something of headaches and began to tremble all over, sweating and becoming bad. When the doctor was almost finished with sewing, he began to twist his eyes backwards. The doctor called the paramedics and everyone knew that it was something bad and had to be hurried. Eddy fell into the cabin in deep unconsciousness. He was no longer transportable. The initial supply had to be provided on the spot. Only then was he taken to a hospital.

Question:  How long was he in coma?

Julia:  Two days after the operation, the sedation has been started. Even a week later he was still not awake. "We are very sorry," said the doctors, "this is now his condition." He was not in artificial coma but was unconscious. This condition continued for another 5 weeks.

Question:  How do the doctors rate Eddy's condition at the moment?

Julia:  The doctors say this is a very serious injury. It is a miracle that he has survived it at all. The right hemisphere is almost completely damaged. In addition there were several incarceration and repeated strokes in the whole area of ​​the brain.

Question:  What are the doctors' predictions for the future?

Julia:  The doctors have said that he will be dependent on nursing for good or ill. The injury is just too big and even after this long time, he just makes too little progress.

We should adjust to this and seriously think that rehab will end soon for him. We do not want to give up and have moved to another facility. But also here a few days ago we were told that Eddy's path in the Reha slowly ends (about 8-12 weeks, there is no rehab there) and he has to go home soon. He will therefore always be in need of care.

Question:  Can Eddy run again? How far is the healing process and how successful was the rehab?

Julia:  No, he can not run. Do not speak. We hope to hear his voice again. I also hope that he will take me in his arms again and says, "I love you and love you and I know you are my wife and we have three wonderful children." At the moment, he is sometimes able to communicate by nods.

Question:  The fight is now almost 5 months ago. What happened in the meantime?

Julia:  To my support, my sister moved to me. I am now looking for a job for some hours, depending on the possibility. What I could sell, I sold. I enlightened the children and they were allowed to visit your dad. George Groves promoter has signed up and wants to transfer the donations he has collected.

Question:  Does Eddy's promoter continue to care for him?

Julia:  We have no contact with Eddy's promoter. The Connection is lost.

Question:  Is Eddy financially secure for the future?

Julia:  No, he is not. Sorry, there are no professional societies for Boxer. There is no pension funded by boxing or the like.

Question:  What fans are really interested in, especially those who are themselves boxing: What can you do to avoid injuries like his or is there the risk that such a thing can happen again and again?

Julia:  Such an injury can always happen. But as a boxer, you should think carefully about who you choose for your team. If a boxer in an eye sees nothing more, fights should be canceled immediately. For this, the danger is too great to be exposed to strong impacts without protection.

Question:  Julia You were talking about your three children with Edward. How old are your children?

Julia:  The oldest is 8 years old. Our middle son is 7 years old and our girl is 3 years old.

Question:  What help is currently needed?

Julia:  Our home needs to be adapted to disabled people. In addition, I have to purchase all the devices that are necessary to continue to perform its therapies. I also want to continue everything that was done with him in rehab at home.

For home care only limited measures are granted by the health insurance company.
People affected by this affect progress even after half a year or more. I will try to support my Eddy, but I need help. He will need a round-robbery.

I know that many fans and friends will condemn me for publishing pictures of him and asking for help. I myself have also fought with me for a long time, if I publish all this. My wish is that my husband will stay with everyone in the heart of the Eddy you know and leave him his privacy. Unfortunately, I have no choice. Only in this way can I give Eddy the opportunity to develop further and not take everything so.

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Alexandra Kostenko adds: "It was a very emotional conversation, with one or other tear that could not be held back. This probably means everything. Julia has done in the past months what she could to master the current situation. She still weighs 42 kg. But the really big challenges lie ahead of her when Eddy will be home and be looked after around the clock. Even if you think 100% positively and everything gradually improves, it means a mammoth task. How far he can fight back in his earlier life is completely open. "

Nobody could know until the end of the 12th round how severely injured Eddy Gutknecht comes from this fight. There are no blame. Nobody wanted what was ultimately happening.

At the emergency surgery in London Eddy had to be removed because of the strong brain swelling the right half of the cranium. It was only in February in Germany that the skull was closed again with a CAD plastic. This is just one of the details.

What a tragedy.

As a boxing fan, one thousand thoughts go through the head. Starting a donation call here and now is the first thing you think about. The question of whether and how one can help somehow in a meaningful way in this difficult situation is in the room.

At least theoretically, it would perhaps be helpful if competent people with the heart in the right place put a real benefit event for Eddy Gutknecht on the legs. But who would do that? Boxers who fight each other in show battles to help Eddy and his family, there would certainly be enough. But who dares to shoulder such an event? How would that be with the boxing fans? Or maybe it would be a good idea to start a small amount X on the ticket price as a donation in the case of an upcoming event? As I said, 1000 thoughts with the desire to help. It will probably remain with a simple donation call.

If someone wants to help directly, the Gutknecht family is looking forward to every little donation. Here the bank data:

Account holder: Julia Gutknecht
IBAN: DE75 2695 1311 0142 0337 03
BIC: NOLADE21GFW
Reason for payment: you never walk alone
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 11:09:11 AM »



Apparently they removed the right side of his skull for a couple of months, then had to craft a plastic replacement and fit it the other week at a specialist hospital in Germany.

Such a shame for the young man. His wife is apparently stick-thin now with worry and will have to take round the clock care of him.

A fundraiser did less than 5k for him. I hope this one does better.
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2017, 01:11:18 PM »

Horrific this. I know George auctioned some of his gear to help, Eddies promoter should be shot for ditching him.

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2017, 01:40:39 PM »

This completely passed me by. I didnt realise this had happened.

Shame for the lad, more shame on his promoters for not doing anything at all to help..

I appreciate the promoters are a business, but still little fundraisers here and there and raising awareness isnt beyond these guys realms     
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2017, 02:25:17 PM »

I can remember him going to hospital with an injury but like a others I thought he was ok as this is the first I have heard.

Hopefully the fund raiser can do well this time enough to hep his family with his care etc.

His promoter is a disgrace but this is what some are like he is no use to him now so ditch him you should have some morals to help him and his family.

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 02:28:35 PM »

Same as above....thought this had passed.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 07:36:12 PM »

In all seriousness......the big guns in the world of boxing should step up and donate some serious money to this man and his family.

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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2017, 09:56:56 PM »

doesnt look good for his promoter at all. but some of these promoters are really small time outfits. where was the sanctioning body in all of this? im sure they demanded a fairly hefty fee for the bout.
 
questions arise regarding insurance / liabilities etc, and yet another injured fighter is left potentially dying /maimed with no help from anyone in this multi million dollar industry.

as time goes on im finding myself siding more with those who think boxing should just be banned outright. what a disgusting business it is.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2017, 08:21:26 AM »

doesnt look good for his promoter at all. but some of these promoters are really small time outfits. where was the sanctioning body in all of this? im sure they demanded a fairly hefty fee for the bout.
 
questions arise regarding insurance / liabilities etc, and yet another injured fighter is left potentially dying /maimed with no help from anyone in this multi million dollar industry.

as time goes on im finding myself siding more with those who think boxing should just be banned outright. what a disgusting business it is.

Banned outright? Wow that strong words.. Then it would be completely lawless.

The lad knows the risk, you play football you might brake your leg, F1 driver you might die. Boxing you might end up brain dead..
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2017, 08:43:52 AM »

there already is underground boxing or unlicensed boxing. the problem isnt that it's dangerous and that people get hurt, its that the organisations running it are just utterly beyond contempt. it may as well be unlicensed given the level of care they seem to show towards the fighters.

this is supposedly a professional sport, yet how many times are we seeing fighters even at the highest levels just binned off to fend for themselves when seriously injured.

that bout was sanctioned by the WBA i understand, they along with the others have made a total mockery of the entire sport with their different pointless belts, just to squeeze more cash from fans,promoters and boxers. then where are they when something like this happens?
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2017, 09:02:23 AM »

there already is underground boxing or unlicensed boxing. the problem isnt that it's dangerous and that people get hurt, its that the organisations running it are just utterly beyond contempt. it may as well be unlicensed given the level of care they seem to show towards the fighters.

this is supposedly a professional sport, yet how many times are we seeing fighters even at the highest levels just binned off to fend for themselves when seriously injured.

that bout was sanctioned by the WBA i understand, they along with the others have made a total mockery of the entire sport with their different pointless belts, just to squeeze more cash from fans,promoters and boxers. then where are they when something like this happens?

There is no benevolent fund in place.

Often the families of the affected have to not only cope with their partner being critically injured and their lives ruined, but often a long and protracted court case as they seek out those medical professionals and officials whom misdiagnosed the situation and made a bad injury worse through prolonging the period of time between injury and hospital attention.

His wife must be going through hell - and the majority of the boxing viewers are completely oblivious to her plight, and as usual will likely be the ones putting their hand in their pockets to assist with what little they can.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2017, 10:50:57 AM »

Glenn, I agree to a certain extent though banning i dont think solves it. Just leads to more and more lads like this.

There should be mandatory insurance of some form, even if it is just to cover the basic health care..

Does anyone from our UFC fans know what the score is with them boys? Boxing is riskier due to the constant pounding to the head but is there any sort of cover in that sport?
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2017, 08:14:41 PM »

Glenn, I agree to a certain extent though banning i dont think solves it. Just leads to more and more lads like this.

There should be mandatory insurance of some form, even if it is just to cover the basic health care..

Does anyone from our UFC fans know what the score is with them boys? Boxing is riskier due to the constant pounding to the head but is there any sort of cover in that sport?

yeah, of course you are right. but boxing really disgusts me at times.

unlicensed boxing as far as im aware employs doctors and paramedics, the white collar stuff includes head guards bigger gloves etc.

there will always however be a market and desire for boxing, whether underground or not. surely the professional ranks should be looking to provide it whilst looking after the fighters as best they can. an example of how to do it. but they dont and never have.

how many fighters shouldnt be fighting? theres plenty, some are still pretty decent but have suffered countless horrendous knock outs, they shouldnt be fighting. but it makes money to keep letting them fight. then there are these instances, it isnt about blaming people for the injury because in such an environment it will always happen, but sanctioning bodies/promoters were profiting from this lads risk with literally no risk to themselves. because theyve just F***ed him off by the looks of things.

ive never understood horse or dog racing, ive seen what they do to the animals once injured and no longer profitable, i dont feel any different to professional boxing when i see things like this. governments banning the current sanctioning bodies from operating might be a start to reforming the obvious problems, because they've no interest in reforming themselves. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2017, 09:43:15 PM »

Glenn, I agree to a certain extent though banning i dont think solves it. Just leads to more and more lads like this.

There should be mandatory insurance of some form, even if it is just to cover the basic health care..

Does anyone from our UFC fans know what the score is with them boys? Boxing is riskier due to the constant pounding to the head but is there any sort of cover in that sport?

All UFC fighters have medical coverage but I'm not sure how good it is. They are I think the only fighting organisation to provide such coverage.

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