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« on: November 26, 2018, 09:45:35 AM »



"We started this in February 2016. There were meetings, lots and lots of meetings, at the US embassy. We got through it. But then when I arrived in America they [the immigration officers] took me away to a back room. Asked a lot of questions and I was strip-searched.

"Why? I don't really know. I don't have any criminal record but I still struggled to get the visa. They said they thought I looked a shady character.

"There was some talk of what went off when I went to see one of Wilder's fights in New York and that I might cause a riot.

"As we all know, these people have the right to do whatever they want. If they say it's Tuesday, it's Tuesday. Fight could have been off. That would have been nice. But after more than four hours they let me in."

Now able to fight in the USA, Tyson Fury sees himself boxing in America rather than in the UK.

"After I win the WBC belt I will be staying here. You won't see me fighting in England again. You heard it here first," added the 30-year-old.

"Once I beat Wilder I will be the next big pay-per-view star in America, the land of opportunity."
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 10:31:46 AM »

What are people's thoughts on this a couple of days out from the fight?  I think if there's 75% of the Fury from the Wlad fight left then he should win this although it's tough to judge what's there from the two comeback fights.

I've stuck a few quid on Fury via KO/TKO with Sky Bet at 8/1 as it's one of those fights where I'm not convinced by the prevailing Wilder by KO or Fury via points narrative.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2018, 12:02:21 PM »

What are people's thoughts on this a couple of days out from the fight?  I think if there's 75% of the Fury from the Wlad fight left then he should win this although it's tough to judge what's there from the two comeback fights.

I've stuck a few quid on Fury via KO/TKO with Sky Bet at 8/1 as it's one of those fights where I'm not convinced by the prevailing Wilder by KO or Fury via points narrative.

Fury looked like crap in his comeback fights, and we cannot overlook the fact he was out for like 3 years and ballooned up to 30 stone on cocaine & drink.

Everyone thought Hatton would smoke Senchenko and then begin a great comeback, until we saw his gaunt features making weight. You could see how his inactivity and well-publicised depression, eating and socialising had took it's toll.

Hatton was away for 3 years too. We all remembered him at his very best and convinced ourselves that a break had done him good etc.

Now I say all this, with a feeling that maybe Fury is naturally skillful enough to beat Wilder. But I think Wilder has trained for this fight harder than ever. I thought he was crude myself but he pounded two decent unbeaten boxers in Stiverne & Ortiz.

All I'm saying is that I can see this fight not being easy for Fury, especially after the halfway point. Wilder wont give in. It might need a bigger effort from Fury to beat Wilder than it did to beat Klitschko (whom i thought was gunshy and poor by his usual standards)
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2018, 01:40:03 PM »

Fury looked like crap in his comeback fights, and we cannot overlook the fact he was out for like 3 years and ballooned up to 30 stone on cocaine & drink.

Everyone thought Hatton would smoke Senchenko and then begin a great comeback, until we saw his gaunt features making weight. You could see how his inactivity and well-publicised depression, eating and socialising had took it's toll.

Hatton was away for 3 years too. We all remembered him at his very best and convinced ourselves that a break had done him good etc.

Now I say all this, with a feeling that maybe Fury is naturally skillful enough to beat Wilder. But I think Wilder has trained for this fight harder than ever. I thought he was crude myself but he pounded two decent unbeaten boxers in Stiverne & Ortiz.

All I'm saying is that I can see this fight not being easy for Fury, especially after the halfway point. Wilder wont give in. It might need a bigger effort from Fury to beat Wilder than it did to beat Klitschko (whom i thought was gunshy and poor by his usual standards)

I've caught a couple of the BBC podcasts this week and Bunce and Costello were making a point of saying Wilder isn't as technically poor as he's being made out to be. However, I can't get some of his previous crude performances out of my head.

It's a really interesting fight with a lot of intangibles. How much has Fury taken out of himself (though I don't see any real parallels with Hatton)? Will we see a best-ever Wilder given his motivation for this fight? Is Wilder smart enough to not get drawn in to wading in and tiring himself out?

FWIW (not much!) I agree with Hurricane that a half decent Fury should do enough to beat Wilder. I can't get the Ortiz fight out of my head, where Wilder was really lucky to come through and win, even if he did end the fight impressively. The bookies are usually pretty smart about pricing up fights but I can't see how they have Wilder as favourite.

It's potentially a classic, two gobshites with an interesting clash of styles and Wilder's one-punch KO power a real threat throughout the fight. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a total stinker though  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2018, 05:16:39 PM »

I've caught a couple of the BBC podcasts this week and Bunce and Costello were making a point of saying Wilder isn't as technically poor as he's being made out to be. However, I can't get some of his previous crude performances out of my head.

It's a really interesting fight with a lot of intangibles. How much has Fury taken out of himself (though I don't see any real parallels with Hatton)? Will we see a best-ever Wilder given his motivation for this fight? Is Wilder smart enough to not get drawn in to wading in and tiring himself out?

FWIW (not much!) I agree with Hurricane that a half decent Fury should do enough to beat Wilder. I can't get the Ortiz fight out of my head, where Wilder was really lucky to come through and win, even if he did end the fight impressively. The bookies are usually pretty smart about pricing up fights but I can't see how they have Wilder as favourite.

It's potentially a classic, two gobshites with an interesting clash of styles and Wilder's one-punch KO power a real threat throughout the fight. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a total stinker though  Grin

The fact Wilder is literally wild by name and wild by skill level - might just land him something that an orthadox Fury may not see coming.

I can very easily see Fury in my head, sitting at ringside saying "the better man won" blah blah. "God bless" etc.

I'm not actually looking forward to the fight that much because it might be awful. But its intriguing if nothing else.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2018, 08:12:08 PM »

The fact Wilder is literally wild by name and wild by skill level - might just land him something that an orthadox Fury may not see coming.

I can very easily see Fury in my head, sitting at ringside saying "the better man won" blah blah. "God bless" etc.

I'm not actually looking forward to the fight that much because it might be awful. But its intriguing if nothing else.
I see what you mean about fury bu you will have to hit him hard to keep him down

I can't stop thinking that whilst wilder has been livin like an athlete fury has not and that might be the difference
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2018, 12:14:20 PM »

The fact Wilder is literally wild by name and wild by skill level - might just land him something that an orthadox Fury may not see coming.

I can very easily see Fury in my head, sitting at ringside saying "the better man won" blah blah. "God bless" etc.

I'm not actually looking forward to the fight that much because it might be awful. But its intriguing if nothing else.

Yep. No way am I staying up/getting up to watch it, but I'll be straight on here trying to find a vid of it on Sunday morning.

If I was having a bet I'd go with Fury points or maybe a late stoppage when Wilder tires.

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2018, 07:33:04 PM »

First fight I've bought in ages so i hope it's a good fight at least.
I Can see fury winning this as easy as he loses it. Meaning it's 50 50 for each man for different reasons.
I'm routing for the big(ger) man to win this for himself more than anything.
I will never forget nesting him about 18 months ago. I was thinking how could anyone even hurt this mountain lol
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2018, 03:08:36 AM »

First fight I've bought in ages so i hope it's a good fight at least.
I Can see fury winning this as easy as he loses it. Meaning it's 50 50 for each man for different reasons.
I'm routing for the big(ger) man to win this for himself more than anything.
I will never forget nesting him about 18 months ago. I was thinking how could anyone even hurt this mountain lol

Have actually become way too adept at getting fights on free-stream lately, but honestly think I might buy this one to show support for both fighters. In my mind, one of the best places the heavy-weight division has been for a while and I think a lot of people will get behind either one in the unification fight. I could honestly see the loser -- contract aside -- allowing the other to fight Joshua with a condition that the loser gets another shot at the belt.
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2018, 04:08:01 PM »

I haven't personally stayed up for a fight for years. And I have little regard for either fighter. So why the flying fook am I watching this one? If you can tell me, please go ahead!  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2018, 11:23:52 PM »

There will probably be vids floating around by 7am British time for those not staying up and buying it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2018, 02:32:46 AM »

I haven't personally stayed up for a fight for years. And I have little regard for either fighter. So why the flying fook am I watching this one? If you can tell me, please go ahead!  Grin

Let's all take time out to make this miserable wet C**t dry up.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2018, 02:50:42 AM »

Worth remembering Wilder fights at a fairly slow pace so I can't see Fury gasing in this fight, both are fairly chinny and it might just be a case of the first to land a meaningful shot wins. I can't wait.

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2018, 05:54:26 AM »

I am not sure what I make of that result at all. perhaps spoiler in the title and watching it back for me.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2018, 06:07:31 AM »

Robbery. Plain and simple.
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