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« on: June 18, 2009, 11:55:19 AM » |
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who wins and how??
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« on: June 18, 2009, 11:55:19 AM » |
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Brick Top
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009, 11:59:37 AM » |
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At football or boxing? sorry  Calzage UD for me |
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 12:02:08 PM » |
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johnson ko around 8th back then he was knocking out roy jones beating woods and tarver and would easily dispatch calslappy
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Che Guevara
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009, 12:14:32 PM » |
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At football or boxing? sorry Calzage UD for me that was terrible brick top  |
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 12:19:36 PM » |
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Calzaghe UD - only a RJJ at that time I could see beating Joe in that division
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2009, 12:21:03 PM » |
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johnson ko around 8th back then he was knocking out roy jones beating woods and tarver and would easily dispatch calslappy
RJJwas pst it, he lost to Tarver shotly after and Woods isnt in Joes League |
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 12:22:02 PM » |
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Calzaghe UD. Don't forget that he did have a bit of power back then and his hands were in better shape so he'd have give Johnson something to think about. It wouldn't have been an easy fight but Joe would have had too much for him.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 12:34:18 PM » |
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I think Calzaghe may have shaded him in a tough fight.
Thats not the point though for me in this discussion, its the fact he pulled out of 3 proposed dates.
Joe messed Johnson around big time and then after Johnson told Joe to screw-off, he then beat Roy Jones and then Tarver, Joe never breathed his name as a professional ever again.
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Che Guevara
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 12:38:03 PM » |
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I think Calzaghe may have shaded him in a tough fight.
Thats not the point though for me in this discussion, its the fact he pulled out of 3 proposed dates.
Joe messed Johnson around big time and then after Johnson told Joe to screw-off, he then beat Roy Jones and then Tarver, Joe never breathed his name as a professional ever again.
you implementing joe dodged him red?  ?? |
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2009, 01:08:48 PM » |
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Thats not the question in fairness red. Calzaghe wide ud never rated glencoffe
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2009, 02:25:07 PM » |
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JC simply the best at that weight in his generation only a pity he waited to his last two fights to go to america could have been one of the all time greats.
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Brick Top
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2009, 02:28:42 PM » |
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JC simply the best at that weight in his generation only a pity he waited to his last two fights to go to america could have been one of the all time greats.
Better thatn Roy Jones? |
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2009, 02:41:47 PM » |
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Better thatn Roy Jones? Nope. Joe fights on the front foot and is fast and aggressive. Jones was more powerful and faster and had a better defence. I can only see a KO for Jones from the middle rounds on. Especially at lightheavy. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2009, 02:42:48 PM » |
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Nope. Joe fights on the front foot and is fast and aggressive. Jones was more powerful and faster and had a better defence. I can only see a KO for Jones from the middle rounds on. Especially at lightheavy.
my thoughs too deck, thats why I was asking the question |
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 08:10:06 PM » |
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If you look at it from the context of the fighter's personal situations, I believe that Johnson would have won this fight; Joe was going through a messy divorce at the time and his head was everywhere, whilst Glen was hungry and needed the money to put his daughter through college...these little mental quirks and nuances can have a massive impact on a fighter's mentality; you only have to look at Hatton going into the Pacman fight to see that his mind wasn't right (due to problems in the camp) and this obviously affected the way that he fought...fighters are professional but they can't help being human and negative emotions will impact on anyone, and there's no where more honest than a boxing ring...
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