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[jimjack]

People vote with their feet chap

His attitude has alienated a massive slice of the punters

So pointless defending it really as the reality is a lot of people dont like him becasue of his attitude

Truth hurts I guess

If that's the case he must be a better champion than Froch...
His fights are televised, his fights are ppv, he sells more tickets in the arena (near enough capacity men for his last 2 fights).

Let me get this straight btw, im no massive fan of Khan but by the same token i dont see why every thing he says is taken against him. From what ive seen he has done loads for his local community and is a proud British world champion, we should get behind him rather than looking to slag him at every oppurtunity.

[Red]

If that's the case he must be a better champion than Froch...
His fights are televised, his fights are ppv, he sells more tickets in the arena (near enough capacity men for his last 2 fights).

Let me get this straight btw, im no massive fan of Khan but by the same token i dont see why every thing he says is taken against him. From what ive seen he has done loads for his local community and is a proud British world champion, we should get behind him rather than looking to slag him at every oppurtunity.

I think you need to check your 'facts' before writing stuff you dont know anything about.

The MEN was full of Barrera fans - not Khan fans.

Secondly against Kotlenik the place was reduced to a 7,000 capacity and was still closed off in places. I read a reliable source on boxrec claim it was around 5,500 there and that was a card that had Paul Smith, Kell Brook, James Degale, Frankie Gavin, Enzo Macc, Billy Jo Saunders and Small vs Hall on it. So how many where there for Khan? lmao.

Froch had a sell-out 9,000 at the arena with everyone there for him alone.

Khan's PPV only sold 14,000 - despite weeks of hardcore SKY advertising across all it's sports and lifestyle channels - which is a massive failure.

And the reason he is on PPV?

Because he has commanded so much money to fight, that ****** can only put the show on if we all pay for it.

Whilst Froch had a poor effort on PrimteTime, it still sold by the bucketload and did nearly 1,600+ online alone. Im informed the figures where in their late teens for Froch and will get a definite soon.

Fact is, everyone looked forward to Froch v Pascal, Froch v Dirrell and Froch vs Jermain Taylor... nobody gave two shots about Kotelnik.

[emmanuel96]

Sefl ownage. Somebody give him cookies?

[Lemonardo]

I think you will find Khan is flying the flag for Pakistan boxing as much as he does for British boxing in fact I think you will find Khan flys the flag for how ever is paying him. Khan is a disgrace his attitude comes a cross as a spoiled brat who if he does not get his own way has a tantrum.

Khan gets stick in press he threatens to leave the UK
Froch says his fight was boring Khan attacks froch

He simply can't take the truth he has faced no one in his career, has a glass jaw, avoids the decent domestic fighters and lets be honest the first decent fighter he gets in with will KO him.

I can see where you're coming from with respect to most of the points you make, but it's a bit unfair to suggest that there's something wrong if he flies the flag for Pakistan as well as for Britain. Khan as every right to be proud of his Pakistani heritage. Both Khan's parents were born in Pakistan, making Khan is first generation UK, so why should he not be entitled to also fly the flag for his parent's homeland?

Frank Bruno was very forthright about considering himself to be a 'True Brit', which brought him closer to the affection of the white British public, but alienated himself from the black community, who considered him to be a 'sell-out'...either way, you can't win...

[jimjack]

I think you need to check your 'facts' before writing stuff you dont know anything about.

The MEN was full of Barrera fans - not Khan fans.

Secondly against Kotlenik the place was reduced to a 7,000 capacity and was still closed off in places. I read a reliable source on boxrec claim it was around 5,500 there and that was a card that had Paul Smith, Kell Brook, James Degale, Frankie Gavin, Enzo Macc, Billy Jo Saunders and Small vs Hall on it. So how many where there for Khan? lmao.

Froch had a sell-out 9,000 at the arena with everyone there for him alone.

Khan's PPV only sold 14,000 - despite weeks of hardcore SKY advertising across all it's sports and lifestyle channels - which is a massive failure.

And the reason he is on PPV?

Because he has commanded so much money to fight, that ****** can only put the show on if we all pay for it.

Whilst Froch had a poor effort on PrimteTime, it still sold by the bucketload and did nearly 1,600+ online alone. Im informed the figures where in their late teens for Froch and will get a definite soon.

Fact is, everyone looked forward to Froch v Pascal, Froch v Dirrell and Froch vs Jermain Taylor... nobody gave two shots about Kotelnik.

Not sure where you got your 'facts' regarding the Khan fights either.
I was at both fights and didnt see that many south americans knocking around drinking mojitos and wearing big hats and ponchos.
Im not sure what the official attendance of the Kotelnik fight was, but it was cetainly more than 5k and according to the staff of the arena it was around 10k... i was at that fight aswell (not many cosak hats knocking around before you ask).
Finally Froch didnt sell out his home town arena unless the last few tickets were taken on the day, as i could still buy them a few hours before the fight.

[jimjack]

I think you will find Khan is flying the flag for Pakistan boxing as much as he does for British boxing in fact I think you will find Khan flys the flag for how ever is paying him. Khan is a disgrace his attitude comes a cross as a spoiled brat who if he does not get his own way has a tantrum.

Khan gets stick in press he threatens to leave the UK
Froch says his fight was boring Khan attacks froch

He simply can't take the truth he has faced no one in his career, has a glass jaw, avoids the decent domestic fighters and lets be honest the first decent fighter he gets in with will KO him.

Everyone who says there is not an underlying racism in the hatred for Khan should read the first line of this post!
Why can he not also be proud of his parents homeland, can he only have allegenace to one country?

[Aaron]

I wont miss him if he goes to america, fair enough some stick is harsh but with stuff like this the sooner he goes the better.

[Lemonardo]

Everyone who says there is not an underlying racism in the hatred for Khan should read the first line of this post!
Why can he not also be proud of his parents homeland, can he only have allegenace to one country?

Couldn't agree more!

Should we start criticizing Paulie Malignaggi, Arturo Gatti and Rocky Marciano (and even Rocky Balboa  ) for expressing their their pride in their Italian heritage?

Should we have a pop at Massachusetts born and bred 'IRISH' Mickey Ward?

Should we have a pop at Lennox Lewis for being forced by his Mother to leave the UK to live in Canada through most of his childhood and adolescence, and then to come out and say (after his career was over) that he considers himself to be Jamaican more than anything else?

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[jimjack]

Couldn't agree more!

Should we start criticizing Paulie Malignaggi, Arturo Gatti and Rocky Marciano (and even Rocky Balboa  ) for expressing their their pride in their Italian heritage?

Should we have a pop at Massachusetts born and bred 'IRISH' Mickey Ward?

Should we have a pop at Lennox Lewis for being forced by his Mother to leave the UK to live in Canada through most of his childhood and adolescence, and then to come out and say (after his career was over) that he considers himself to be Jamaican more than anything else?

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Spot on mate IQ.
If Khan was of italian or spanish heritage he wouldn't be vilified in this way. The fact  is he is a muslim and from middle eastern heritage, those two combined is demonised by some thanks to media hysteria.

[Dexter_Morgan]

Everyone who says there is not an underlying racism in the hatred for Khan should read the first line of this post!
Why can he not also be proud of his parents homeland, can he only have allegenace to one country?

Typical nonsense everyone dislikes him because of race utter crap. The fact he threatened to pull out of the british olympic team unless they sent him to the olympics and threatened to represent Pakistan instead maybe gives you an idea that he does not give a toss for either nation and is more interested in self promotion.

The fact is I resent your comment highly you are branding me racist without proof or fact is deplorable. The fact is I commented on the fact he had a pakistan flag on his shorts and claims to represent both country's.

My reason for not being a Khan fan is he has ducked people, IS NOT a great boxer imo and am fed up hearing about how great he is going to be and not fighting the top fights.

[jimjack]

Typical nonsense everyone dislikes him because of race utter crap. The fact he threatened to pull out of the british olympic team unless they sent him to the olympics and threatened to represent Pakistan instead maybe gives you an idea that he does not give a toss for either nation and is more interested in self promotion.

The fact is I resent your comment highly you are branding me racist without proof or fact is deplorable. The fact is I commented on the fact he had a pakistan flag on his shorts and claims to represent both country's.

My reason for not being a Khan fan is he has ducked people, IS NOT a great boxer imo and am fed up hearing about how great he is going to be and not fighting the top fights.

Im not branding you a racist at all, what i said was there is an underlying racist issue with the resentment towards Amir Khan. You're clearly an intelligent person judging by your posts, however choose to ignore the fact that Khan hasn't ducked anyone. Khan's opponents are picked by his promoter and advisers, he has contract stipulations to adhere to and has done as such. Now he is a champion he has contract stipulations with the governing bodies, and by defending against his mandatory he is doing so.
The race issue i was illuding to was not one of blind racism, but undoubtably alot of people in the uk have an underlying race issue with people of middle eastern heritage at the minute (i would probably say myself included, i look twice of a guy in muslim attire is sat on the same flight as me). Whether it is concious or not there are issues with Khan that wouldn't be raised if he was a white guy from Manchester.

[Dexter_Morgan]

Im not branding you a racist at all, what i said was there is an underlying racist issue with the resentment towards Amir Khan. You're clearly an intelligent person judging by your posts, however choose to ignore the fact that Khan hasn't ducked anyone. Khan's opponents are picked by his promoter and advisers, he has contract stipulations to adhere to and has done as such. Now he is a champion he has contract stipulations with the governing bodies, and by defending against his mandatory he is doing so.
The race issue i was illuding to was not one of blind racism, but undoubtably alot of people in the uk have an underlying race issue with people of middle eastern heritage at the minute (i would probably say myself included, i look twice of a guy in muslim attire is sat on the same flight as me). Whether it is concious or not there are issues with Khan that wouldn't be raised if he was a white guy from Manchester.

Fair post. I just resent the way everything just now gets turned into a race issue in the UK at present the race card seems to be played all the time and I have clearly over reacted to your comment for which I apologise.

I think the dislike for him comes from his manner and attitude an example would be how much did the public like Naz yet seem unable to take to Khan ?. The lad seems to be humble one minute and the next telling us he's going to be best ever. Yet most people who follow boxing still question his ability to take a punch.

Can you honestly say hand on heart his win over Kotlenik was a world level performance ?. He won the title but he did it by hit and run something Dirrel has been slated for and its even been posted on here that he tried to steal the title well didn't Khan do the same ? He can't fight the rest of his career without engaging in a fight at some point.

[Che Guevara]

Not sure where you got your 'facts' regarding the Khan fights either.
I was at both fights and didnt see that many south americans knocking around drinking mojitos and wearing big hats and ponchos.
Im not sure what the official attendance of the Kotelnik fight was, but it was cetainly more than 5k and according to the staff of the arena it was around 10k... i was at that fight aswell (not many cosak hats knocking around before you ask).
Finally Froch didnt sell out his home town arena unless the last few tickets were taken on the day, as i could still buy them a few hours before the fight.

you obviously didnt hear the reception barrera got while making his ring entrance compared to khans....


khan been disliked is abs nothing to do with race...well it certainly isnt with me anyway.

some of my fav fighters of all time, mike tyson (black,turned muslim) muhammad ali (black muslim) manny pacquiao (asian decent) the list is endless, i love all these guys coz they fought the best i dislike khan because hes the biggest conman english boxing has ever produced and its not going to change.

Iq red top post.

[Skav]

Fair post. I just resent the way everything just now gets turned into a race issue in the UK at present the race card seems to be played all the time and I have clearly over reacted to your comment for which I apologise.

I think the dislike for him comes from his manner and attitude an example would be how much did the public like Naz yet seem unable to take to Khan ?. The lad seems to be humble one minute and the next telling us he's going to be best ever. Yet most people who follow boxing still question his ability to take a punch.

Can you honestly say hand on heart his win over Kotlenik was a world level performance ?. He won the title but he did it by hit and run something Dirrel has been slated for and its even been posted on here that he tried to steal the title well didn't Khan do the same ? He can't fight the rest of his career without engaging in a fight at some point.

IQ.

[jimjack]

Fair post. I just resent the way everything just now gets turned into a race issue in the UK at present the race card seems to be played all the time and I have clearly over reacted to your comment for which I apologise.

I think the dislike for him comes from his manner and attitude an example would be how much did the public like Naz yet seem unable to take to Khan ?. The lad seems to be humble one minute and the next telling us he's going to be best ever. Yet most people who follow boxing still question his ability to take a punch.

Can you honestly say hand on heart his win over Kotlenik was a world level performance ?. He won the title but he did it by hit and run something Dirrel has been slated for and its even been posted on here that he tried to steal the title well didn't Khan do the same ? He can't fight the rest of his career without engaging in a fight at some point.

I agree with most of what you have said mate.
Hi sperformance against Kotelnik was probably the only way he could have won the fight, and the only way he had confidence in. I also agree he has to have the conviction to stand with people now he is the champion ptherwise risk being ridiculed for the rest of his career.
I think the issue with Naz was slightly different  as we were not in quite so turbalent times, it was pre 911 hence all the hatred / fear towards the muslim community, also Naz was able to back up his boasts with top level punching.

Finally I couldn't agree more about petty things being made into a race issue in the UK. It not only segregates the country further, but also acts as an appologist to the real racist element. I was just trying to make the point that maybe even when people dont realise it there may be an underlying issue with Khan.