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[Stef]

I was reading about Amir Khan earlier and i saw his amateur record was 100/2. One of those losses was to Kindelan so going into the olympics he was 100/1 if its correct. Anyway this made me think about how good the elite of today and the past did as amateurs.

Amir Khan                100-2
Joe Calzaghe            110-10
Mike Tyson              24-3
Lennox Lewis           94-11
Evander Holyfield      160-14
Vitali Klitschko          195-15
Wladimir Klitschko      134-6
Oscar De La Hoya     223-5
Floyd Mayweather Jr  84-6
Shane Mosley           250-16
Roy Jones Jr            121-13
Kelly Pavlik              89-9
Ricky Hatton            73-7
Kostya Tszyu           259-11
Ronald Wright          52-4
Antonio Tarver         158-8
Chad Dawson           67-13
Jeff Lacy                209-12
Andre Ward             114-5
Mikkel Kessler          44-3

Muhammad Ali 
Felix Trinidad   
Bernard Hopkins 
Miguel Angel Cotto 
Manny Pacquiao 
Carl Froch   
Paul Malignaggi 
Paul Williams 
Jermain Taylor 
Arthur Abraham 
Antonio Margarito 
Arturo Gatti 
Allan Green 
David Haye 

Can anyone fill in the above or add to the list?

[DNO]

Khan's amateur record was not 100-2.

As for the rest I will look into it Stef 

[Romanopapa]

Can only speak about Manny    He has no amateur background, jumped straight to the pros to earn and feed himself

[Red]

It's a difficult measuring tool, judging success as an amateur.

As it's shorter rounds, different means of winning etc.

I think Cotto had a sketchy amatuer record, but has steam rolled the likes of Abdullaev and Pinto in the paid ranks, who outclassed him in the amateurs.

Also many amateurs might fight poor opponents, if they are not entering big events. I suppose the best barometer is the medals/honours they won.

Froch was the first Englishman to medal at the Worlds, with a bronze - but later in the same competition, Haye bagged a silver to be the second Englishman to medal. Frankie Gavin since won a gold at Chicago.

One of the most impressive amateurs for me, was Kostya Tszyu. 259-11 is what many sites claim, with golds at many shows including the Sydney Olympics... but most of his wins came by KO !

His win over Vernon Forrest, a much taller opponent was pretty text book. Its on youtube.

Having 270 fights before turning 21 must have put a lot of wear and tear on his body. I know he's had shoulder probs that nearly retired him twice. Who knows what he might have achieved if he was based in America and had about 150 amatuer fights less? in his pomp nobody fancied the job of fighting him. Mosely skipped the division altogether when stepping up from lightweight and Oscar left sharpish too.

The fact he was neck and neck with a prime Hatton, at aged 35 and a period of inactivity, showed his class. 10 years prior it would have been concluded in 2 or 3 rounds i feel. A great win for Hatton and perhaps one of the best that a British fighter has achieved.

[Tito]

Muhammed Ali - 100-5
Felix Trinidad - 51-6 (only 12ko's)
Bernard Hopkins - had no amatuer record as he only took up Boxing while serving a 18 year prison sentence. He went immediately Professional on his release after serving 5 years in 1988.
Miguel Cotto - 125-23
Manny Pacquaio - 60-4
Carl Froch - 88-8
Paul Malignaggi - 40-9
Paul Williams - unknown
Jermain Taylor - unknown
Arthur Abraham - 81-3-6
Antonio Margarito - 18-3
Arturo Gatti - unknown
Allan Green  - 55-6 (currently holds fastest KO in Amatuer Boxing 8 seconds).
David Haye - unknown

Some other noticeable names
Shaun Porter - 262-11 = currently 11-0 as a pro 
Rafa Marquez -59 -1
Juan Manuel Marquez 35-1
Odlandier Solis- 227-14
yuriorkis gamboa - 122-19-3
Vernon Forrest - 225-16
Cory Spinks - 78-3
Fernando Vargas - 100-5
Erik Morales - 108-6
Marco Antonio Barrera - 104-4

[Stef]

Khan's amateur record was not 100-2.

As for the rest I will look into it Stef 

I found it hard to believe myself.
 

It's a difficult measuring tool, judging success as an amateur.

As it's shorter rounds, different means of winning etc.

I think Cotto had a sketchy amatuer record, but has steam rolled the likes of Abdullaev and Pinto in the paid ranks, who outclassed him in the amateurs.

Also many amateurs might fight poor opponents, if they are not entering big events. I suppose the best barometer is the medals/honours they won.

Froch was the first Englishman to medal at the Worlds, with a bronze - but later in the same competition, Haye bagged a silver to be the second Englishman to medal. Frankie Gavin since won a gold at Chicago.

One of the most impressive amateurs for me, was Kostya Tszyu. 259-11 is what many sites claim, with golds at many shows including the Sydney Olympics... but most of his wins came by KO !

His win over Vernon Forrest, a much taller opponent was pretty text book. Its on youtube.

Having 270 fights before turning 21 must have put a lot of wear and tear on his body. I know he's had shoulder probs that nearly retired him twice. Who knows what he might have achieved if he was based in America and had about 150 amatuer fights less? in his pomp nobody fancied the job of fighting him. Mosely skipped the division altogether when stepping up from lightweight and Oscar left sharpish too.

The fact he was neck and neck with a prime Hatton, at aged 35 and a period of inactivity, showed his class. 10 years prior it would have been concluded in 2 or 3 rounds i feel. A great win for Hatton and perhaps one of the best that a British fighter has achieved.

I agree than amateur medals and honours is a better indicator. As for Tszyu most of his losses came to the same guys who he beat at other times. I'm suprised he stayed at the top of the pro ranks for so long considering the amount of amateur fights he had beforehand. Joan Guzman's amateur record was said to be 312-10 before turning pro at 21. No wonder he can't be arsed to fight no more.

[Stef]

Muhammed Ali - 100-5
Felix Trinidad - 51-6 (only 12ko's)
Bernard Hopkins - had no amatuer record as he only took up Boxing while serving a 18 year prison sentence. He went immediately Professional on his release after serving 5 years in 1988.
Miguel Cotto - 125-23
Manny Pacquaio - 60-4
Carl Froch - 88-8
Paul Malignaggi - 40-9
Paul Williams - unknown
Jermain Taylor - unknown
Arthur Abraham - 81-3-6
Antonio Margarito - 18-3
Arturo Gatti - unknown
Allan Green  - 55-6 (currently holds fastest KO in Amatuer Boxing 8 seconds).
David Haye - unknown

Some other noticeable names
Shaun Porter - 262-11 = currently 11-0 as a pro 
Rafa Marquez -59 -1
Juan Manuel Marquez 35-1
Odlandier Solis- 227-14
yuriorkis gamboa - 122-19-3
Vernon Forrest - 225-16
Cory Spinks - 78-3
Fernando Vargas - 100-5
Erik Morales - 108-6
Marco Antonio Barrera - 104-4

I'm suprised with Paulies record. I thought his style would have suited the amateur game perfectly.

[Hitman]

Guillermo Rigondeaux had a record of  -  374-12

[Tito]

Guillermo Rigondeaux had a record of  -  374-12

I couldn't actually confirm his record as I only knew he had 12 losses and nearly 400 fights. It was pretty hard to get Casamayor's record verified too.

[Che Guevara]

anyone ever have a perfect record in the amatuers??

[Hitman]

I couldn't actually confirm his record as I only knew he had 12 losses and nearly 400 fights. It was pretty hard to get Casamayor's record verified too.

Casamayor's record was  -  363-30

[Stef]

Frankie Gavin 108-20
Tyson Fury 30-4 (26KO's)

Anyone know James Degales's record?

[brocktonbomber]

George Foreman 22-4 (Olympic Gold in '68)

[Stef]

George Foreman 22-4 (Olympic Gold in '68)

He did well to win Olympic Gold with so little experience.

[shivasouth]

One of the most impressive amateurs for me, was Kostya Tszyu. 259-11 is what many sites claim, with golds at many shows including the Sydney Olympics... but most of his wins came by KO !

His win over Vernon Forrest, a much taller opponent was pretty text book. Its on youtube.

Just watched Tszyu-Forrest... Impressive!!! Thanks for that Red