Quigg and Frampton : Supply the Demand
Finally, we seem to be getting somewhere.
For the past two years we seem to have heard more talk about why a fight between new IBF super bantamweight champion Carl Frampton and his WBA ‘regular’ counterpart Scott Quigg won’t take place rather than what would happen if the two did actually meet in the ring.
Following his third round stoppage of Stephane Jamoye on Saturday night, the penny seemed to have dropped with the fighter from Bury and his promoter, Eddie Hearn, that the only fight that makes sense is a clash with Frampton. Frampton did his part following his victory over Martinez by demanding his next fight be against Quigg. The signs are good but the momentum can’t be allowed to die.
The fans need to demand the fight is made. Quigg and Frampton need to demand that their teams deliver them the opportunity to make a lot of money and advance their careers and Sky television – who seem to be key to negotiations now that Frampton’s successful BoxNation deal has expired – need to demand that a deal is agreed.
When demand outweighs supply, the suppliers who work the hardest to meet demand and give people what they want generally emerge with the healthiest bottom line. All British boxing fans are asking of the parties involved here is to, please, meet demand. Do that and everybody can win.
Quigg demolished Jamoye at weekend. He calmly soaked up everything the game Belgian threw at him before nearly breaking him in half with some vicious hooks to the body. It was an impressive performance and it threw up some interesting questions about what would happen if fitness fanatic Quigg were able to land those shots in the second half of a fight with Frampton. And therein lies the problem. Even after a destructive display against a tough former European bantamweight champion all questions and discussions centred around the Irishman.
As an exhausted but proud Frampton sat on the ring apron after his victory over Kiko Martinez last weekend wearing his hard won IBF belt, the same was true. Quigg was the topic of most of the post fight talk. “Will he be next?” “Martinez should fight Quigg!” “I sell way more tickets than Quigg.”
Now, it’s time for the talk, questions and discussions to begin in earnest.
The fight will never be bigger. Britain has two of the world’s best super bantamweights operating at the peak of their powers and a meeting between the unbeaten pair would make significant waves on both the red top back pages and in the boxing forums. In some shape of form, everybody involved in British boxing seemed to benefit from the Froch – Groves 2 bandwagon and to get another significant match up between world class British fighters so soon afterwards is manna from heaven.
The much vaunted ‘casual’ fans are already aware of Frampton - who featured in some high profile Sky Sports events – and although Quigg may not have the same X-Factor as the man from Belfast a series of quick, nasty knockouts will have made an impact of viewers who are constantly told by Sky that they are watching the super bantamweight champion of the world. Dedicated boxing fans want to see the fight regardless of the titles on the line because they know it’s a bloody good fight between two of the worlds best 8st 10lb fighters.
At ringside in Manchester on Saturday night, talk centred about where the fight should take place. In my opinion, this is the smallest stumbling block of all and is almost a non issue. The pair should simply agree to fight in the arena with the most suitable capacity, wherever that is. When the pair do eventually meet, Frampton will undoubtedly be the draw. The Phones-4-U Arena was cut in half on Saturday night and the upper tier was curtained off, Jamoye may not have been a high profile opponent but this was a ‘world’ title defence in Quigg’s hometown. Compare the attendance on Saturday night with the crowds Frampton drew for his fights with Jeremy Parodi and Hugo Cazares. Yes, Belfast is a fight starved city but Frampton has developed into a huge attraction. A Ricky Hatton like army could be expected to cross the Irish Sea and invade Manchester for such a big event and a 22,000 strong sell-out at the Phones-4-U Arena would generate the money required to satisfy all the egos involved. It would also ensure that the fight isn’t delayed by the weather issues an overly ambitious stadium promotion would place on it.
With Quigg and Frampton both now holding versions of the fractured super bantamweight title it may seem as though they have more to lose than ever before, making the waters of negotiation muddier than ever. In actuality, maybe both fighters achieving their lifetime goal will actually make the fight easier to make. Until now, despite loud protestations from both fighters that they wanted to meet, maybe the private fear of the repercussions of losing to another British fighter gave them a reason to avoid the fight. Now, both fighters need to look at the bigger picture and rather than thinking of the other as a domestic rival, think of them as a world class fighter and take into consideration the financial and professional boost that such a victory would give them. This is a high risk fight, but it’s also a high reward fight.
Veering off on a tangent, I also see a Guillermo Rigondeaux fight as high risk, high reward. I find it impossible to understand anybody who says that beating one of the greatest fighters on the planet and becoming the undisputed super bantamweight champion would be a “low reward”. I live in an idealistic world where Corinthian spirit outweighs financial gain though and I’m fully aware that that’s an argument for another time!
So, there we have it. Two of the world’s top bantamweights, two versions of the world title, a truck load of money and an expectant, divided nation.
Just make the fight!
Mayweather: Answers question on Khan at Wembley
Floyd Mayweather refuses to be drawn on a Amir Khan showdown at Wembley Arean - but says he was champion when Amir Khan was an amateur, he was still champion when Khan got knocked out, still champion when Khan lost his world title - and still champion when Khan got knocked out again.
Santa Cruz calls for Rigo, Frampton or Quigg
Leo Santa Cruz says "Rigo, Frampton or Quigg - I'm now ready for those fights" he said at the post-fight press conference, "As long as my promoter can get it on with those camps I think it could happen".
Mayweather outpoints Maidana in dull procession
Floyd Mayweather last night retained his world welterweight title (yes, we know there were specific belts on the line but Mayweather is clearly the best 147lb fighter on the planet) and extended his unbeaten record to 47-0 (26 KO's) with a unanimous decision victory over Marcos Maidana in their moderately anticipated rematch at the MGM Grand Garden, Las Vegas.
In contrast to his swashbuckling start to their fight in May, 'Chino' turned in a lacklustre and strangely subdued performance and - save for a single hard right hand as the bell sounded to end the third round - barely troubled the multi weight world champion. Mayweather's trademark counter right hand was in evidence throughout the twelve rounds but he never came close to putting a significant dent in his Argentinian opponent. Age does seem to be finally catching up with 37 year old Mayweather and his susceptibility to a sharp jab seems to be increasingly evident but Maidana's feet were simply too slow to walk a more mobile Mayweather into position this time around and 'Money' effectively tied him up and held whenever he felt under threat.
Mayweather deserves great credit for battling through the severe discomfort of a "numb hand" after Maidana, now 35-5 (31 KO's), somehow managed to "bite his fingers" through an 8oz boxing glove whilst wearing a mouthpiece. Even though he didn't see this heinous act, referee Kenny Bayless decided to make a huge show of assuring Mayweather and warning Maidana and his trainer Robert Garcia that he would be keep a close eye on proceedings from then on. Funnily enough, when Maidana caused Mayweather to stumble to the ground after using his own patented forearm frame against him, Bayless took a point.
Anyway, the scores were 115-112, 116-111 and 116-111. The crowd booed loudly throughout the final round and there was an overwhelming feeling of "so what?" about the whole event.
In the post fight interview, Showtime's Jim Gray voiced the thoughts of millions when he pressured Mayweather for an a definitive answer on the Manny Pacquiao question. The fight is at least five years beyond its sell by date but would inject some much needed life back into the Mayweather brand which seemed to flag a little in the build up to this fight.
We shall see.......
Post Fight Press conference, Mayweather Maidana VIDEO
iFLTV were on hand to film the Mayweather vs Maidana post-fight conference last night:-
Dirrell: Groves don't deserve shot, knocked out twice
iFLTV talk to WBC Champion Anthony Dirrell says that George Groves does not merit a shot at his title, that he's been knocked out twice in a row by Carl Froch.
When the subject of Froch arose, he said "Now that's a fight" but ruled out coming to the UK.
Patterson stops Gaynor. Wilson thankfully responding to treatment
Ahmet Patterson is the new English welterweight champion after stopping Rotherham’s Chad Gaynor in five rounds at Ice Sheffield last night. Dave Coldwell's 'In the Line of Fire' was the first event to be broadcast on Matchroom’s Fight Pass platform and the evening provided plenty of drama.
It was a breakout performance from 26 year old Patterson, now 13-0 (4 KO’s). Officially, the doctor advised referee Richie Davies to stop the bout on account of Gaynor’s slammed shut right eye but this shouldn’t be considered an ‘injury’ stoppage. After absorbing a couple of heavy hooks to the body in the opening round, Patterson seemed unfazed by Gaynor’s power and visibly grew in confidence throughout the fight. He was able to impose his style to greater and greater effect.
The first two rounds were fought on even terms but as the pair stood off each other towards the end of the third, Patterson sprang in with a solid, single jab. The punch landed flush and Gaynor’s nose began to pour blood. By the midpoint of the fourth, Gaynor’s nose was streaming blood and he was visibly squinting to see through his right eye. Patterson seized his chance and began to land clean shots from range and was able to be the bully inside. He simply kept throwing. Gaynor, now 15-2 (8 KO’s), survived one doctor’s inspection early on the fifth but the writing was on the wall. The end came at 2.35.
The officials and organisers deserve plaudits for ensuring the fight took place. Thankfully, light welterweight Jerome ‘Wipeout’ Wilson, 8-3 (2 KO’s), was responding to treatment after being taken to hospital following another brutal battle of Sheffield with Serge Ambomo, 4-0 (2 KO’s). Wilson was floored heavily in the sixth and final round and the show was delayed until the ambulance and doctor could return to the venue.
There was controversy following the ending. My view was obscured as the crowd leapt to their feet as the final punches landed but rumours swirled around the venue as to whether Ambomo spoke to the prone Wilson or kissed him. Either way, Wilson’s promoter – Coldwell – was absolutely furious and Ambomo was hastily taken from the ring.
After dropping a six round decision to Ambomo in a fight of the year candidate in May, the slick Wilson knew what tactics to employ against the powerful Cameroonian but was simply unable to avoid getting dragged into a war. This played directly into the hands of the tiring but hard hitting Ambomo. The fight had been a virtual replica of their first meeting but – sadly for Wilson – with a far more violent ending. Hopefully the 29 year old makes a full recovery and fans can talk about the fight. Until then, it seems wise to avoid going into blow by blow details of a bout where the health of one of the fighters remains in jeopardy.
Maxi Hughes, 13-1-1 (2 KO’s), was once again forced to make do after preparing for a fight with former world title challenger Joseph Laryea. In May, Laryea injured himself after slipping in an airport toilet. This time, he decided to leave it until fight week to inform the show promoters that he wouldn’t be getting on his flight from Ghana. I somehow doubt this fight will be a case of third time lucky.
In the end, Hughes comfortably outpointed late notice stand in Kakhaber Avetisian over ten rounds at super featherweight. He did manage to put the Georgian down for a brief count in the sixth and recorded a wide 100-89 decision victory.
Hughes deserves – and needs – a big fight. Coldwell keeps managing to set them up, the pair just need one of the opponents to actually make it in to the ring. Nobody deserves a stroke of luck more.
Lee Appleyard bt Jamie Quinn 39-38
Ryan Fields bt Ramon Levy Vassie 39-37
Dave Fidler bt Damian Taggart TKO 2
Fergus Taylor bt Lance Sheehan 40-37
Jamie Hughes bt Nathan King 39-38
Mark Weston bt Bheki Moyo 40-35
Mayweather 146.5 Maidana 146 pics and video
Floyd Mayweather and Marcos Maidana made the weight ahead of their rematch tomorrow night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Maidana says that he is aiming to rectify some mistakes from the first fight, that will enable him to be the first man to defeat Floyd Mayweather.
Meanwhile the unbeaten Mayweather, says that he will have no issues defeating Maidana clearly, in what is only the second rematch of his long career.
Floyd came in the heavier man at 146.5 in comparison to Maidana's 146lb.
The challenger landed more shots than any recent Floyd Mayweather opponent has ever managed to. And at 37 and half years old, a small portion of the media think that Floyd could be starting to slip - and that a hungry , aggressive challenger could start taking the older version of Mayweather to places he's not been before.
Showtime Sports will be broadcasting the fight Stateside, whilst Boxnation carry the show in the UK.